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Makiivka: Russia Points Fingers After Deadliest Ukraine Attack by obedience4(op): 7:52pm On Jan 03, 2023
The deaths of dozens of Russian soldiers in a new year missile strike on a building in occupied eastern Ukraine have prompted recriminations among critics of the Russian military

Russia's defence ministry has so far conceded that 63 people were killed in the Ukrainian attack on Makiivka at around midnight on New Year's Eve.
One commander's wife accused the West of trying to destroy Russia
But elsewhere military leaders were accused of incompetence
Ukraine says as many as 400 people were killed or wounded at Makiivka, and numbers into the hundreds have been given by Russian nationalists on social media.
However, there is no way of verifying how many soldiers were killed when US-made Himars missiles hit a vocational college packed with conscripts. Ammunition was also being stored close to the site, which was reduced to rubble.
Whatever the number, this is the highest number of deaths acknowledged by Russia since it invaded Ukraine on 24 February 2022.
Rallies were held in several cities in Russia's south-western region of Samara, where governor Dmitry Azarov said many of the conscripts had lived

The biggest commemoration took place in the city of Samara itself, with at least 200 people taking part. Other official events were held in the industrial city of Tolyatti and in Syzran and Novokuybyshevsk
No criticism was reported at the Samara rally, where the main remarks came from Yekaterina Kolotovkina, who said "neither we nor our husbands wanted war; the entire West united against us to eliminate us and our children" grin
Hers was very much an official voice as her husband, Lt Gen Andrei Kolotovkin, commands the 2nd Guards Combined Arms Army based in Samara.
The commander's wife's remarks prompted anger on social media with independent journalist Dmitry Kolezev pointing out that her husband did not die in Makiivka.
"Could we have at least some evidence?" he asked, in response to her claim that the West intended to kill Samara's children. Another blogger condemned her comments as a "pack of lies".
The governor of Samara met defence ministry officials in Moscow on Tuesday and was expected to visit some of the wounded in hospital in the city of Rostov-on-Don the next day.
President Vladimir Putin has so far said nothing about the attack, but did sign a decree on Tuesday for families of National Guard soldiers killed in service to be paid 5m roubles (£57,000; $69,000)

The soldiers sent to Makiivka were among an estimated 300,000 men signed up by Russia's military as part of the president's "partial mobilisation" announced last September in the face of a string of setbacks in Ukraine
A number of voices have been highly critical of the military in the aftermath of the attack on Makiivka, a city adjacent to the main city of Donetsk and some distance from the front line
Pavel Gubarev, a former leading official in Russia's proxy authority in Donetsk, condemned the decision to place a large number of soldiers in one building as "criminal negligence".
Such mistakes were being made early in the war, he complained, and even if the conscripts did not realise the risk, the authorities should have.
"If no-one is punished for this, then it'll only get worse," he warned.

One theory promoted by local security officials was that Ukrainian forces had been able to detect the use of Russian mobile phones by servicemen arriving at the vocational college on New Year's Eve.
The deputy speaker of Moscow's local parliament, Andrei Medvedev, said it was predictable that the soldiers would be blamed - instead of the commander who made the original decision to position so many soldiers in one place


"History will certainly preserve the names of those who tried to keep silent about the trouble, and those who tried to blame the dead soldier for everything," he wrote on Telegram
Meanwhile, Ukraine's armed forces said they killed or wounded 500 Russian troops in another attack on New Year's Eve, on a village in the occupied southern region of Kherson.

There was no independent verification of the attack at Chulakivka, some 20km south of the River Dnipro.
Russian forces retreated across the Dnipro in November and Ukrainian officials have posted video of a flag being hoisted on an island between the eastern and western banks of the river.
Ukraine's southern military command has warned that it is too early to talk of Velyky Potyomkinsky island being completely liberated.
Commander in chief Valerii Zaluzhny said on Monday that Ukraine had liberated 40% of the territories seized by Russia since last February, and 28% of all territories occupied by Russia since 2014.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64155859

Re: Makiivka: Russia Points Fingers After Deadliest Ukraine Attack by xpiranza88: 7:57pm On Jan 03, 2023
Ok
Re: Makiivka: Russia Points Fingers After Deadliest Ukraine Attack by VeryWickedSimp: 8:15pm On Jan 03, 2023
Satan II missile loading
Plenty Ukrainians will die this weekend. Sure banker. grin grin
Re: Makiivka: Russia Points Fingers After Deadliest Ukraine Attack by TinubuDeDrugLor: 8:52pm On Jan 03, 2023
US and co will eventually destroy Russia from different angles.

They're still playing Chess.
Re: Makiivka: Russia Points Fingers After Deadliest Ukraine Attack by Nobody: 11:34pm On Jan 03, 2023
Hundreds, perhaps thousands are already dead from retaliatory attacks but best if the mainstream media don't show the casualties to prevent loss of morale on the Ukrainian side. This attack is a good thing;it is a wake up call for the Russians to stop treating this war with levity. Western countries regard the Ukrainian war as the battle for the would of the world whilst many Russians still don't care if there is a war.
VeryWickedSimp:
Satan II missile loading
Plenty Ukrainians will die this weekend. Sure banker. grin grin
Re: Makiivka: Russia Points Fingers After Deadliest Ukraine Attack by joyandfaith: 2:42am On Jan 04, 2023
atmy1:
Hundreds, perhaps thousands are already dead from retaliatory attacks but best if the mainstream media don't show the casualties to prevent loss of morale on the Ukrainian side. This attack is a good thing;it is a wake up call for the Russians to stop treating this war with levity. Western countries regard the Ukrainian war as the battle for the would of the world whilst many Russians still don't care if there is a war.
retaliatory attacks from feb 24, 2022 ? You can open your mainstream media to show us true events. We don't want Telegram news.
Re: Makiivka: Russia Points Fingers After Deadliest Ukraine Attack by texazzpete(m): 7:19am On Jan 04, 2023
atmy1:
Hundreds, perhaps thousands are already dead from retaliatory attacks but best if the mainstream media don't show the casualties to prevent loss of morale on the Ukrainian side. This attack is a good thing;it is a wake up call for the Russians to stop treating this war with levity. Western countries regard the Ukrainian war as the battle for the would of the world whilst many Russians still don't care if there is a war.
Russia tried to retaliate with Shaheds. All were shot down.

Russia hasn’t been treating this war with ‘levity’ since March 2022 after their attempts to break into Kyiv failed woefully. This ‘wake up call’ talk is silly copium.

VeryWickedSimp:
Satan II missile loading
Plenty Ukrainians will die this weekend. Sure banker. grin grin
You’re not very bright at all
Re: Makiivka: Russia Points Fingers After Deadliest Ukraine Attack by Nobody: 9:58am On Jan 04, 2023
How can you be referring me to mainstream media that is already against Russia from day one? I am not even on Telegram. Most of my info is gotten from Twitter, on real accounts of people reporting from the war zone. People like Gonzalo Lira, Patrick Lancaster, Johnny Miller and Eva Beekely. These are westerners who are reporting live from Russian Donbas. I also get glimpses by reading between the lines of pro-ukrainian reports. I pray you don't go into shock when you finally see the truth. The greatest deception is ascribing the authority to determine facts to just a handful of international corporations with an agenda.
texazzpete:
Russia tried to retaliate with Shaheds. All were shot down.

Russia hasn’t been treating this war with ‘levity’ since March 2022 after their attempts to break into Kyiv failed woefully. This ‘wake up call’ talk is silly copium.



You’re not very bright at all
Re: Makiivka: Russia Points Fingers After Deadliest Ukraine Attack by Nobody: 9:59am On Jan 04, 2023
One of the retaliatory attacks was even caught live on French TV. Continue in your blissful ignorance.
texazzpete:
Russia tried to retaliate with Shaheds. All were shot down.

Russia hasn’t been treating this war with ‘levity’ since March 2022 after their attempts to break into Kyiv failed woefully. This ‘wake up call’ talk is silly copium.



You’re not very bright at all
Re: Makiivka: Russia Points Fingers After Deadliest Ukraine Attack by Nobody: 10:04am On Jan 04, 2023
Grandson of French President de Gaulle Pierre de Gaulle:
'The consequences of the current crisis are reflected primarily in Europe. Public opinion in France is beginning to understand what the evil game of the Americans is today.'

Continuation: https:///vicktop55/11095
Re: Makiivka: Russia Points Fingers After Deadliest Ukraine Attack by obedience4(op): 10:48am On Jan 04, 2023
atmy1:
One of the retaliatory attacks was even caught live on French TV. Continue in your blissful ignorance.
Give us a link, so we can watch it too. grin
Re: Makiivka: Russia Points Fingers After Deadliest Ukraine Attack by HigherEd: 10:49am On Jan 04, 2023
VeryWickedSimp:
Satan II missile loading
Plenty Ukrainians will die this weekend. Sure banker. grin grin
Let them use Satan 2 and you would see US throw away the gloves. Even without JASSM, ATACMS, F16 etc the Ukrainians are damaging Russian forces. Imagining what will happen if US supplies all weapons that can be supplied. The end result would be Ukraine would end while Russia would also end.

The world would help Ukraine rebuild but leave Russia in the ashes
Lalasticlala
Re: Makiivka: Russia Points Fingers After Deadliest Ukraine Attack by VeryWickedSimp: 10:53am On Jan 04, 2023
HigherEd:

Let them use Satan 2 and you would see US throw away the gloves. Even without JASSM, ATACMS, F16 etc the Ukrainians are damaging Russian forces. Imagining what will happen if US supplies all weapons that can be supplied. The end result would be Ukraine would end while Russia would also end.

The world would help Ukraine rebuild but leave Russia in the ashes
Lalasticlala
So you finally agree its the US in Ukraine. grin
News flash: The US is losing.
Re: Makiivka: Russia Points Fingers After Deadliest Ukraine Attack by Nobody: 11:03am On Jan 04, 2023
Re: Makiivka: Russia Points Fingers After Deadliest Ukraine Attack by obedience4(op): 11:30am On Jan 04, 2023
Re: Makiivka: Russia Points Fingers After Deadliest Ukraine Attack by texazzpete(m): 11:57am On Jan 04, 2023
atmy1:
One of the retaliatory attacks was even caught live on French TV. Continue in your blissful ignorance.
Yes, an explosion was caught live on French TV.

The bit about HIMARS and MLRS being destroyed is the made up part, as is the casualty count. All pushed out to distract from the catastrophe Russia suffered.

You can tell it’s a lie since there aren’t any secondary explosions
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