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LordReed:
I don't care for your "common sense"

When ego supersedes not caring for common sense, the excess is folly

LordReed:
I want to know what science tells you that black woman's DNA is what mutates to give differing skin tones.

Science, is nothing, but trained and organised common sense, where many a beautiful theory was killed by an ugly and brash remark

You'll know the moment science is finished, doing catching up

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

LordReed:
Because HN was well acclimated to the European environment and we know that that lack of intense sunlight causes decrease in melanin production. It is even in DNA evidence that HN had pale skin.

then would that be implying that HS couldn't evolve to produce less or more melanin as the case may be?

NNTR:
When ego supersedes not caring for common sense, the excess is folly

Science, is nothing, but trained and organised common sense, where many a beautiful theory was killed by an ugly and brash remark

You'll know the moment science is finished, doing catching up

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Science gathers data not common sense so again where is the science?

kkins25:
then would that be implying that HS couldn't evolve to produce less or more melanin as the case may be?

Not at all. The interbreeding of HN and HS would only serve to increase the genetic diversity, it no way prevents separate populations from developing it.

However my speculations might be based on already superceded science. Apparently the data suggests that light skin permeated Europe millennia after HN had died out so it wasn't interbreeding that caused it.

cc: Maynman

LordReed:
Science gathers data not common sense so again where is the science?

I recognise scientism when I see one even threes and fours

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
I recognise scientism when I see one even threes and fours

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

I recognise dodging when I see it. LoLz.

LordReed:
I recognise dodging when I see it. LoLz.

Fear not those who argue with you, but those who dodge LoLz

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Everyone comes from Africa through evolution

NNTR:
Fear not those who argue with you, but those who dodge LoLz

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Self own, nice. LoLz.

The Europeans venerate their deities and make them look appealing. We let our children watch Disney’s Hercules, call our daughters Diana, we read the Greek illads, we watch Odysseus, The goddess Britannia is on every monument in the Uk, the goddess Columbia is on every American Monument; yet we call our heritage, demons, devils and diabolic, ”The worst thing that ever happened to Africa; was turning our gods into demons”, How on earth do we expect to find peace,?

sonmvayina:
The Europeans venerate their deities and make them look appealing. We let our children watch Disney’s Hercules, call our daughters Diana, we read the Greek illads, we watch Odysseus, The goddess Britannia is on every monument in the Uk, the goddess Columbia is on every American Monument; yet we call our heritage, demons, devils and diabolic, ”The worst thing that ever happened to Africa; was turning our gods into demons”, How on earth do we expect to find peace,?

It's very disappointing. We Africans are very good at storytelling, we could have turned our own stories into great works of art like the Europeans or the Asians but instead just as you said we turned our stories into self-reproach.

When I was a child stories of tortoise and Cinderella were not different, they all evoked a sense of wonder. Cinderella story was not superior to tortoise story. Remember Tales by Moonlight? I lived in the same building with the lady that used to present it and all the children then were always asking to be on the show, just imagine if that was a Netflix or DSTV based show. We are wasting our potential.

The whiteman evolved from a group of albinos who escaped the persecution in africa to the cold freezing caucus mountains

LordReed:
Supports: "Now the black woman (i.e. in this case, starting with Eve) is the only human that has the mitochondrial DNA (i.e. Eve Gene) with all the possible variations, for every kind of human being. Meaning that, when the DNA of a black woman's mutates, you have all other types of different skin tones and/or hues come about."

..you lie
It isn't possible for biblical eve to give birth to a black skin child

Umbrateeth04:
..you lie
It isn't possible for biblical eve to give birth to a black skin child

Huh? I never made that claim.

LordReed:
Huh? I never made that claim.

so clarify me on your assertion

LordReed:
Huh? I never made that claim.

Yes, I stand by the claim that:
The black woman (i.e. in this case, starting with Eve) is the only human that has the mitochondrial DNA (i.e. Eve Gene) with all the possible variations, for every kind of human being. Meaning that, when the DNA of a black woman's mutates, you have all other types of different skin tones and/or hues come about

No white parents with medically confirmed reliable methods (i.e. reliable DNA test) have been accepted and recorded to prove they have produced a black baby. It just doesnt and/or cant happen.

The only chance of white parents having a black baby(ies) is, if there's an in vitro fertilisation mixups (i.e. IVF) or like in the case of the South African couples, which is a non-paternity event. Of course, living in apartheid South Africa wouldnt let get to the bottom of this

Word out there, were that Mr Laing, reminded one, of people, who have something to hide and so makes one wonder, if he knew more than he was telling, but if being objective, then considering that Sandra and Adriaan, (i.e. one of Sandra's brothers) looks like their mother, Sannie, then implies that, most of their black genes (i.e. ethnic looks and/or appearances) would have to come from Sannie's side then.

The only way to really find out, if really white parents Mr and Mrs Laing gave birth to black or ethnic looking children, is for Sandra to get a DNA test done with her brothers, but she won't do that.

If extra marital affair is not the issue, then rather, genetic atavism, IMHO, could be added to the conundrum of Mr and Mrs Laing, the black gene lay dormant for only God knows when, and by some ancestral throwback means, it re-surfaced in Sannie , starting with producing Sandra.

Reckon we should we leave leucism untouched.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Umbrateeth04:
so clarify me on your assertion

I didn't make any here. I was asking NNTR about his.

NNTR:
Yes, I stand by the claim that:
The black woman (i.e. in this case, starting with Eve) is the only human that has the mitochondrial DNA (i.e. Eve Gene) with all the possible variations, for every kind of human being. Meaning that, when the DNA of a black woman's mutates, you have all other types of different skin tones and/or hues come about

No white parents with medically confirmed reliable methods (i.e. reliable DNA test) have been accepted and recorded to prove they have produced a black baby. It just doesnt and/or cant happen.

The only chance of white parents having a black baby(ies) is, if there's an in vitro fertilisation mixups (i.e. IVF) or like in the case of the South African couples, which is a non-paternity event. Of course, living in apartheid South Africa wouldnt let get to the bottom of this

Word out there, were that Mr Laing, reminded one, of people, who have something to hide and so makes one wonder, if he knew more than he was telling, but if being objective, then considering that Sandra and Adriaan, Sandra's brother looks like their mother, Sannie, the implies that most of their black genes would have to come from Sannie's side then.

The only way to really find out, if really white parents Mr and Mrs Laing gave birth to black or ethnic looking children, is for Sandra to get a DNA test done with her brothers, but she won't do that.

If extra marital affair is not the issue, then rather, genetic atavism, IMHO, could be added to the conundrum of Mr and Mrs Laing, the black gene lay dormant for only God knows when, and by some ancestral throwback means, it re-surfaced in Sannie , starting with producing Sandra.

Reckon we should we leave leucism untouched.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Oga I didn't ask for anecdotes. I asked for the science that backs your assertion up.

NNTR:
When ego supersedes not caring for common sense, the excess is folly

Science, is nothing, but trained and organised common sense, where many a beautiful theory was killed by an ugly and brash remark

You'll know the moment science, is finished, doing catching up

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

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LordReed:
Oga I didn't ask for anecdotes. I asked for the science that backs your assertion up.

Science that backs what assertion up?

Oga what part, dont you understand, in, you'll know the moment science, is finished, doing catching up.

Two can play your game. Kk, you show me where two white parents, ever, have produced black baby(ies) and that science backs it up.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:

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Science that backs what assertion up?

Oga what part, dont you understand, in, you'll know the moment science, is finished, doing catching up.

Two can play your game. Kk, you show me where two white parents, ever, have produced black baby(ies) and that science backs it up.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

You made the assertion that: The black woman (i.e. in this case, starting with Eve) is the only human that has the mitochondrial DNA (i.e. Eve Gene^{( WTF is Eve Gene)}) with all the possible variations, for every kind of human being. Meaning that, when the DNA of a black woman's mutates, you have all other types of different skin tones and/or hues come about. Yet cannot show the science that backs it up.

It wasn't your Bible that discovered DNA and genes, that was all science.

Show me where I made that claim.

LordReed:
You made the assertion that: The black woman (i.e. in this case, starting with Eve) is the only human that has the mitochondrial DNA (i.e. Eve Gene with all the possible variations, for every kind of human being. Meaning that, when the DNA of a black woman's mutates, you have all other types of different skin tones and/or hues come about. Yet cannot show the science that backs it up.

It wasn't your Bible that discovered DNA and genes, that was all science.

Show me where I made that claim.

The evidences out there, not once, not twice, but more, shows that only black women have been known to give birth to whites babies.

If you arent familiar with what the Eve gene is then YOYO. The moment, almighty science, that you worship, that you put on a high pedestal, is done, doing catching up, you'll know how the black woman (i.e. in this case, starting with Eve) is the only human that has the mitochondrial DNA (i.e. Eve Gene with all the possible variations, for every kind of human being.

Almighty Science pray answer thou faithful LordReed

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
The evidences out there, not once, not twice, but more, shows that only black women have been known to give birth to whites babies.

If you arent familiar with what the Eve gene is then YOYO. The moment, almighty science, that you worship, that you put on a high pedestal, is done, doing catching up, you'll know how the black woman (i.e. in this case, starting with Eve) is the only human that has the mitochondrial DNA (i.e. Eve Gene with all the possible variations, for every kind of human being.

Almighty Science pray answer thou faithful LordReed

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Where is the evidence? This many posts and you are yet to post a single one.

LoLz. I ain't buying your stories, just show me the evidence.

NNTR:
The evidences out there, not once, not twice, but more, shows that only black women have been known to give birth to whites babies.

If you arent familiar with what the Eve gene is then YOYO. The moment, almighty science, that you worship, that you put on a high pedestal, is done, doing catching up, you'll know how the black woman (i.e. in this case, starting with Eve) is the only human that has the mitochondrial DNA (i.e. Eve Gene with all the possible variations, for every kind of human being.

Almighty Science pray answer thou faithful LordReed

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Why are you cherrypicking which science you pray to?

Is the earth now over 100,000 years old?
Because that’s what science traced it to

Maynman:
Why are you cherrypicking which science you pray to?

Is the earth now over 100,000 years old?
Because that’s what they traced it to

Oh it's Mitochondrial Eve he is calling Eve gene. LMFAO!

Maynman:
Why are you cherrypicking which science you pray to?

More sarcastic prayers to science are forthcoming

Maynman:
Is the earth now over 100,000 years old?
Because that’s what they traced it to

Yes, the earth certainly is over 100,000 years old, and mind you, science never makes any pretension that it has answers to everything under the sun.

What science cant explain, it obfuscates, if it hasnt already turned it into spaghetti lot.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
More sarcastic prayers to science are forthcoming

Yes, the earth certainly is over 100,000 years old, and mind you, science never makes any pretension that it has answers to everything under the sun.

What science cant explain, it obfuscates, if it hasnt already turned it into spaghetti lot.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Then your adam and eve story is a failure.

Science can’t explain everything YET because they will need facts and evidence to back it up, they don’t work on opinions and ask people to believe calling it “spiritual”.
Anything that theists can’t explain they call it “spiritual” and they stop thinking, no wonder early theists thought thunder was caused by a deity.

If science that’s knowledge can’t explain it, is it ignorance in form of belief and faith gotten in a forged book that will?

IT'S BLACK FROM AFRICA, WHITES FROM EUROPE AND YELLOW FROM MONGOLIA.

Maynman:
Then your adam and eve story is a failure.

Nothing with the Adam and Eve narrative is a failure

Part of its, is success the obsession you have for it

Maynman:
Science can’t explain everything YET because they will need facts and evidence to back it up, they don’t work on opinions and ask people to believe calling it “spiritual”.
Anything that theists can’t explain they call it “spiritual” and they stop thinking, no wonder early theists thought thunder was caused by a deity.

Pfft, which part of the planet are you living that gives you the impression to use the 'they will need facts and evidence to back it up, they don’t work on opinions and ask people to believe calling it “spiritual”. Anything that theists can’t explain they call it “spiritual” and they stop thinking, no wonder early theists thought thunder was caused by a deity.' brush to paint everyone

Maynman:
If science that’s knowledge can’t explain it, is it ignorance in form of belief and faith gotten in a forged book that will?

I empathise with you for how much indigestion, severe pains and endless preoccupation with it, the alleged forge book gives you. Ndo

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
Nothing with the Adam and Eve narrative is a failure

Pfft, which part of the planet are you living that gives you the impression to use the 'they will need facts and evidence to back it up, they don’t work on opinions and ask people to believe calling it “spiritual”. Anything that theists can’t explain they call it “spiritual” and they stop thinking, no wonder early theists thought thunder was caused by a deity.' brush to paint everyone

I empathise with you for how much indigestion, severe pains and endless preoccupation with it, the alleged forge book gives you. Ndo

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

The adam and eve story is a jewish allegory. Funny how you are desperately defending it, that’s what happen when you lack knowledge on the books you base your life on.

You said nothing but jargons.
Yes, they are forged books.
Bible means collection of books, they were collected from different sources.

Should we start from the tanakh especially the torah that contains your adam and even story, i can only pity you, from birth you’ve been indoctrinated and brainwashed with jewish mythologies, it’s hard to leave I know.
Ignorant yahweh worshipper, when we are done with tanakh which christians call Old Testament, then we move to new Testament that was created in Rome by and for CHRESTIANS.

NNTR:
The evidences out there, not once, not twice, but more, shows that only black women have been known to give birth to whites babies.

If you arent familiar with what the Eve gene is then YOYO. The moment, almighty science, that you worship, that you put on a high pedestal, is done, doing catching up, you'll know how the black woman (i.e. in this case, starting with Eve) is the only human that has the mitochondrial DNA (i.e. Eve Gene with all the possible variations, for every kind of human being.

Almighty Science pray answer thou faithful LordReed

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

LMFAO! No wonder you couldn't present any evidence, you were just sprouting junk.

Maynman:
The adam and eve story is a jewish allegory.

You're right that among quite a lot, its an allegory, and being so, so what?

Maynman:
Funny how you are desperately defending it that’s what happen when you lack knowledge on the books you base your life on.

Merlin are you, hmm?

Maynman:
You said nothing but jargons.

Yeah, you're right, it absolutely is ,
Its a shorthand communication understood by believers

Maynman:
Yes they are forged books.

Go strap on a dripping of water wetsuit and go hug a transformer, if not pleased about it being forged books

Maynman:
Bible means collection of books, they were collected from different sources.

Duh, so you expect its content to be plucked out of air, hmm?

Maynman:
Should we start from the tanakh especially the torah that contains your adam and even story, i can only pity you, from birth you’ve been indoctrinated and brainwashed with jewish mythologies, it’s hard to leave I know.
Ignorant yahweh worshipper.

I wear the compliments on my sleeve with pride. I even will frame this post here and hang in at the foot of my bed, so every morning I wake up, it'll be the first thing my eyes sees

As everything and anything that has to do with YHWH pains you, it sweets me

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
You're right that among quite a lot, its an allegory, and being so, so what?


Merlin are you, hmm?

Yeah, you're right, it absolutely is ,
Its a shorthand communication understood by believers

Go strap on a dripping of water wetsuit and go hug a transformer, if not pleased about it being forged books

Duh, so you expect its content to be plucked out of air, hmm?

I wear the compliments on my sleeve with pride. I even will frame this post here and hang in at the foot of my bed, so every morning I wake up, it'll be the first thing my eyes sees

As everything and anything that has to do with YHWH pains you, it sweets me

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Yawn, Still jargons at the end.
The books you base your life on are forged, edited, corrected, copied and plagiarised books.

Small boy yhwh, that was an orphan god worshipped by shasu tribe and adopted by the Israelites.
bwahahahah.

Ignorant yahweh worshipper, when we are done with tanakh which christians call Old Testament, then we move to new Testament that was created in Rome by and for CHRESTIANS.