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Re: JW 027 Common Myths About Virgin Giving Birth by IslamIsIdiotic: 6:31am On Jan 13, 2023
In Ancient Egypt, Neith is often said to be self-created, meaning that she did not have a father.

And while it is true that in some myths, she is called mother of the gods, in other myths Neith is also seen as the consort or wife of Seth, and the mother of his son, Anubis.


budaatum:
What about, before the cult of Mithras, and long before the Bible? Like some 2000 years before?
Re: JW 027 Common Myths About Virgin Giving Birth by budaatum: 6:33am On Jan 13, 2023
IslamIsIdiotic:
In Ancient Egypt, Neith is often said to be self-created, meaning that she did not have a father.

And while it is true that in some myths, she is called mother of the gods, in other myths Neith is also seen as the consort or wife of Seth, and the mother of his son, Anubis.
Do those myths predate Christian and Mithras myths or not?

Give dates for both please, let us see which is younger than the other.
Re: JW 027 Common Myths About Virgin Giving Birth by MaxInDHouse(op): 6:43am On Jan 13, 2023
So faithless miscreants thinks we worship with them whenever we chat on terms and conditions of worship.

Well let it be known to whoever comes in here that if you're not one of Jehovah's Witnesses strictly adhering to the teachings of our GOVERNING BODY you can't be a worshiper of our God. So if you like call the GB our God we don't care but just note that that's the one and only ground where anyone can be a worshiper of the same God with members of JWs! wink

Re: JW 027 Common Myths About Virgin Giving Birth by budaatum: 7:16am On Jan 13, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
So faithless miscreants thinks we worship with them whenever we chat on terms and conditions of worship.

Well let it be known to whoever comes in here that if you're not one of Jehovah's Witnesses strictly adhering to the teachings of our GOVERNING BODY you can't be a worshiper of our God.
dé já vu in public hoping public don't see you.

Re: JW 027 Common Myths About Virgin Giving Birth by sonmvayina(m): 7:21am On Jan 13, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
That's between those that wholeheartedly believe (trust) in His words not people like you who feel it goes hand in hand with Babylonian mythology.
So go and worship with your kind! smiley
You did not answer the question..

You see why I say it is only dummies that would believe that crap..
Re: JW 027 Common Myths About Virgin Giving Birth by MaxInDHouse(op): 7:40am On Jan 13, 2023
You're right!
We believers in Jesus are like dummies before those thinking they're wise! 1Corinthians 2:14 compare to Matthew 11:25 smiley

sonmvayina:
You did not answer the question..
You see why I say it is only dummies that would believe that crap..

Re: JW 027 Common Myths About Virgin Giving Birth by tctrills: 8:08am On Jan 13, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
The funny thing about you is faithlessness yet you want to adjust the thinking of others! grin

Whenever a real Christian quotes a scripture its meant for our Bible students to meditate not faithless ones like you who doesn't even trust (believe) the Bible.

For instance imagine when Jesus told his disciples "Elijah has come" {Matthew 17:10-13} do you still expect them to quote Malachi 4:5 and keep anticipating the coming of Elijah! How will unbelieving Jews view Jesus' disciples who have concluded that John the baptist is the Elijah they're expecting?

So whenever i quote a scripture humbly ask for the import on what i said otherwise you can never ever get the sense of God's word.
Meanwhile the time is running out find a way to make disciples for Christ if you won't enroll in the Bible study with JWs because it's not this wasteful arguments that Jesus will use to repay his faithful ones who must make active disciples! Matthew 28:19-20 smiley
Nothing you said here has to do with our discussion. You claim that you hate wasteful arguments. But we both know that is not true. You dwell on wasteful arguments. If you continue to quote scriptures that don't match the topic in your arguments, is that not a wasteful argument.
As I said, learn to be a little more honest and have some integrity even in your disagreements. If you want to be a teacher of truth, you need to be truthful.
Re: JW 027 Common Myths About Virgin Giving Birth by MaxInDHouse(op):
tctrills:
Nothing you said here has to do with our discussion. You claim that you hate wasteful arguments. But we both know that is not true. You dwell on wasteful arguments. If you continue to quote scriptures that don't match the topic in your arguments, is that not a wasteful argument.
As I said, learn to be a little more honest and have some integrity even in your disagreements. If you want to be a teacher of truth, you need to be truthful.
How do you think those criticizing Jesus view him and his teachings?
Do you think they accepted him as a true teacher yet criticizing him? cheesy

Ọmọ as long as you and i aren't on the same page i will always be untruthful from your viewpoint and that's exactly how i also will view you.
So the best thing to do is:
PRESENT THOSE WHO ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU {Matthew 12:46-50} WHILE I PRESENT JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES AS MEMBERS OF MY HOUSEHOLD {Mark 10:29-30} THEN BY THE WORKS OF FAITH EACH FAMILY IS DOING IN THEIR NEIGHBOURHOOD {James 2:18-26} EVERYONE WILL KNOW WHO IS WHO! Matthew 7:16-18

No matter how both of us look into this matter you are a liar to me just as i am a liar to you! wink
Re: JW 027 Common Myths About Virgin Giving Birth by IslamIsIdiotic: 1:10pm On Jan 13, 2023
Perhaps you missed my initial point which is that certain denominations within certain older religions like Mithras and even Hinduism, both of which are thousands of years older than Christianity, have a lot of respect for Jesus and some of them have incorporated elements of the Jesus origin story into their own religions and applied these tropes to their own deities.

budaatum:
Do those myths predate Christian and Mithras myths or not?

Give dates for both please, let us see which is younger than the other.
Re: JW 027 Common Myths About Virgin Giving Birth by kkins25(m): 5:54pm On Jan 13, 2023
IslamIsIdiotic:
Perhaps you missed my initial point which is that certain denominations within certain older religions like Mithras and even Hinduism, both of which are thousands of years older than Christianity, have a lot of respect for Jesus and some of them have incorporated elements of the Jesus origin story into their own religions and applied these tropes to their own deities.
What you're saying here is in the same sense as saying, 'although late pele era predated that of ronaldo, pele style of play was impacted by ronaldo." Please listen to yourself.
Re: JW 027 Common Myths About Virgin Giving Birth by IslamIsIdiotic: 11:06am On Jan 14, 2023
Listen to this moronic comparison. Are Pele and Ronaldo equivalent to ideologies that have been around for thousands of years?



kkins25:
What you're saying here is in the same sense as saying, 'although late pele era predated that of ronaldo, pele style of play was impacted by ronaldo." Please listen to yourself.
Re: JW 027 Common Myths About Virgin Giving Birth by sonmvayina(m): 2:01pm On Jan 14, 2023
IslamIsIdiotic:
Listen to this moronic comparison. Are Pele and Ronaldo equivalent to ideologies that have been around for thousands of years?
You are actually the one making the mistake..

Read what you wrote and correct it
.
Re: JW 027 Common Myths About Virgin Giving Birth by budaatum: 3:37pm On Jan 14, 2023
IslamIsIdiotic:
Listen to this moronic comparison. Are Pele and Ronaldo equivalent to ideologies that have been around for thousands of years?
I asked you for dates so we can work out if Pele was influenced by Ronaldo, but you ignored.
Re: JW 027 Common Myths About Virgin Giving Birth by Maynman: 3:51pm On Jan 14, 2023
IslamIsIdiotic:
Perhaps you missed my initial point which is that certain denominations within certain older religions like Mithras and even Hinduism, both of which are thousands of years older than Christianity, have a lot of respect for Jesus and some of them have incorporated elements of the Jesus origin story into their own religions and applied these tropes to their own deities.
They incorporated jesus origin story in 6bc? Or when was this jesus born?
The books where we find jesus virgin story was created during which century? Bwahahahaha
Re: JW 027 Common Myths About Virgin Giving Birth by NaBanga: 5:01pm On Jan 14, 2023
Any woman can have a virgin birth. This can be done through "dry humping" where the man releases enough to enter the woman, but does not penetrate the woman. It can also be achieved through IVF AND IUF. Immaculate conception is another matter all together.
Re: JW 027 Common Myths About Virgin Giving Birth by MaxInDHouse(op): 5:16pm On Jan 14, 2023
This is true about what we have in modern times but we're talking about what happened in ancient times when stories of virgin birth were told before the times of Jesus of Nazareth.

God bless you and may you have PEACE! smiley

NaBanga:
Any woman can have a virgin birth. This can be done through "dry humping" where the man releases enough to enter the woman, but does not penetrate the woman. It can also be achieved through IVF AND IUF. Immaculate conception is another matter all together.
Re: JW 027 Common Myths About Virgin Giving Birth by sonmvayina(m): 8:50pm On Jan 14, 2023
what purpose is the virgin birth of Jesus suppose to play?

Messiah prophesied by the Jewish prophet is supposed to be from the line of David through Solomon...and we know that genealogy is only transferred from father to son.

The story even makes jesus to be from no where..as he has no human father...and the author of the gospel according to Mathew even tried to link his jesus to a quote in Isaiah 7:14 as being about jesus. When read in context Isaiah was talking about his pregnant wife...who was about to give birth...

Jesus nah myth jor...
Re: JW 027 Common Myths About Virgin Giving Birth by NaBanga: 10:27pm On Jan 14, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
This is true about what we have in modern times but we're talking about what happened in ancient times when stories of virgin birth were told before the times of Jesus of Nazareth.

God bless you and may you have PEACE! smiley
People were dry humping in the old days. Egyptians were doing IUF as well.
Re: JW 027 Common Myths About Virgin Giving Birth by MaxInDHouse(op): 11:41pm On Jan 14, 2023
After God has disengaged rebellious angels they turned themselves to gods and people throughout the world worshiped them so they are behind all the fake stories about virgin birth in various pagan traditions across the globe since they were all in heaven when God declared judgment on Satan, Adam and Eve! Genesis 3:15 smiley

NaBanga:
People were dry humping in the old days. Egyptians were doing IUF as well.
Re: JW 027 Common Myths About Virgin Giving Birth by jaephoenix(m): 11:57pm On Jan 14, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
All the demons got the idea when God declared judgment on the three rebels in the garden of Eden {Genesis 3:15} so everywhere they go fabricated or stage managed stories to fit in the narrative will be heard but Jesus' case is the authentic! smiley
What are you talking about? Haven't you heard of Epic of Gilgamesh?
Re: JW 027 Common Myths About Virgin Giving Birth by jaephoenix(m): 12:00am On Jan 15, 2023
Image123:
cheesy cheesy cheesy Start your church using Epic of Gilgamesh and let's see how many sinners you can save or sick people you can heal. We can evaluate after 5 years wasting your life. We're talking of what we have seen and handled, not what was read on Wikipedia or watched on Facebook.
1. The concept of 'sin' was hatched by you folks and still punished by yall. So don't put it on us.
2. And no, I haven't seen any sick people healed. They are all scams without corroborations. Why do you think all the healings happen in church and social media but none happens in hospitals where the real sick folks are?
Re: JW 027 Common Myths About Virgin Giving Birth by MaxInDHouse(op): 12:01am On Jan 15, 2023
Go and PREACH it to your neighbours and use it to TEACH them! smiley

jaephoenix:
What are you talking about? Haven't you heard of Epic of Gilgamesh?
Re: JW 027 Common Myths About Virgin Giving Birth by jaephoenix(m): 12:13am On Jan 15, 2023
tctrills:
The scripture your mentioned Matthew 25:14-30 does not teach that believe is trust. I am not sure you even read the verses. Those verses speak about the talent and not believe or trust If you teach what the bible says, no one would argue with you.
Welcome to the world of MadMax. Dude pulls out random disjointed Bible verses from his ass to back up his half-assed views
Re: JW 027 Common Myths About Virgin Giving Birth by jaephoenix(m): 12:14am On Jan 15, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Go and PREACH it to your neighbours and use it to TEACH them! smiley
I'm not a theist, kind sire. So I can't go about preaching
Re: JW 027 Common Myths About Virgin Giving Birth by MaxInDHouse(op): 12:17am On Jan 15, 2023
jaephoenix:
I'm not a theist, kind sire. So I can't go about preaching
So what are you doing when you're talking about religion or referring to religious books if you're not a religionist as you claim? cheesy
Re: JW 027 Common Myths About Virgin Giving Birth by jaephoenix(m): 12:17am On Jan 15, 2023
IslamIsIdiotic:
Christianity came first. The latter day adherents of those pagan religions began to copy elements from the Bible and incorporate them into their religions.
For example, the cult of Mithras existed during the days of the early Church and they began to associate the divinity of Jesus with the person of their god Mithras. This happened in places like Corinth and Antioch where the cult had many members.
Lol. You obviously don't know Epic of Gilgamesh. That book was written about 1000 years before the Bible. And what's more? Its common knowledge. But somehow, Christians don't know it.
https://history.howstuffworks.com/history-vs-myth/gilgamesh.htm
Re: JW 027 Common Myths About Virgin Giving Birth by jaephoenix(m): 12:25am On Jan 15, 2023
budaatum:
Every time we discuss here in this Kingdom where we both dwell, you are worshipping with me. Or rather, we are worshipping together. Unless you want to claim you are fighting me instead, of course.

Or don't you trust and believe anymore?
You, sire, are one person that scares MadMax. I guess its because you try out his tricks on him with better innuendos than us. Kudos. Never seen ma nigga MadMax be in a hurry to leave a debate(no matter how daft his views are)
You must be good with the gaslighter cheesy
Re: JW 027 Common Myths About Virgin Giving Birth by jaephoenix(m): 12:34am On Jan 15, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
So what are you doing when you're talking about religion or referring to religious books if you're not a religionist as you claim? cheesy
So I'll have to be a 'religionist' before I read or research about religious books?
Re: JW 027 Common Myths About Virgin Giving Birth by MaxInDHouse(op): 12:34am On Jan 15, 2023
She wants to worship with me but since you're OK with her why not join in worshiping with her?cheesy

jaephoenix:
You, sire, are one person that scares MadMax. I guess its because you try out his tricks on him with better innuendos than us. Kudos. Never seen ma nigga MadMax be in a hurry to leave a debate(no matter how daft his views are)
You must be good with the gaslighter cheesy
Re: JW 027 Common Myths About Virgin Giving Birth by MaxInDHouse(op): 12:37am On Jan 15, 2023
That's why i often told you that you're a religionist it's just that you don't know the god you're worshiping.
How can you spend your time, data, and effort in going through all those pains yet there's no tangible reason for doing all that?
Ọmọ you dey worship something but you no know! cheesy
jaephoenix:
So I'll have to be a 'religionist' before I read or research about religious books?
Re: JW 027 Common Myths About Virgin Giving Birth by Image123(m): 3:48am On Jan 15, 2023
jaephoenix:
1. The concept of 'sin' was hatched by you folks and still punished by yall. So don't put it on us.
2. And no, I haven't seen any sick people healed. They are all scams without corroborations. Why do you think all the healings happen in church and social media but none happens in hospitals where the real sick folks are?
Oh,blimey! i thought you said it was all copied from some epic book? Where do you stand, copied or hatched?
What do you know? The fact that you haven't seen any healings ever shows you haven't seen anything. Better for you to keep quiet and let those with experience handle their matter. A man with an experience is not at the mercy of some mere arguments.
Re: JW 027 Common Myths About Virgin Giving Birth by kkins25(m): 10:02pm On Jan 15, 2023
IslamIsIdiotic:
Listen to this moronic comparison. Are Pele and Ronaldo equivalent to ideologies that have been around for thousands of years?
Ehya, sorry sir! Look at me even trying to bring myself down to your level. Carry on sir!
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