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Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by Nobody: 7:30am On Jan 28, 2023
kris:
Did you know that Zelensky is a Jew?



Due to the holocaust, many people think Nazism is about hatred of Jews. Although genocide against jews was a consequence of the Nazi ideology, being a Nazi is more about genetic racism combined combined with extreme nationalism and it manifests in hatred against certain races or ethnic groups. For Nazi Germany,it was jews first, then Slavs and blacks. For the modern day Nazis, it is Russians. The west were very cunning to pardon many Nazis who didn't kill many jews but killed more of Soviets, allowing them to migrate to Canada, Argentina etc. Some of them came back and became founding members of NATO.

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Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by caye(m): 7:47am On Jan 28, 2023
So...CIA and WEF guys are busy taking over Seun's forum?

Ṣeun, dó something about these.propaganda.
They are corrupting, misinforming and brainwashing the uninformed African youths , like CNN and BBC did to our fathers from 1960s-2014.

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Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by kris(m): 11:58am On Jan 28, 2023
grin

caye:
So...CIA and WEF guys are busy taking over Seun's forum?

Ṣeun, dó something about these.propaganda.
They are corrupting, misinforming and brainwashing the uninformed African youths , like CNN and BBC did to our fathers from 1960s-2014.

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Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by kris(m): 12:03pm On Jan 28, 2023
Maybe the Russians should come up with a new name for them then, because screaming Nazis is not sticking.



atmy1:


Due to the holocaust, many people think Nazism is about hatred of Jews. Although genocide against jews was a consequence of the Nazi ideology, being a Nazi is more about genetic racism combined combined with extreme nationalism and it manifests in hatred against certain races or ethnic groups. For Nazi Germany,it was jews first, then Slavs and blacks. For the modern day Nazis, it is Russians. The west were very cunning to pardon many Nazis who didn't kill many jews but killed more of Soviets, allowing them to migrate to Canada, Argentina etc. Some of them came back and became founding members of NATO.

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Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by opamoses1: 2:42pm On Jan 28, 2023
atmy1:


Due to the holocaust, many people think Nazism is about hatred of Jews. Although genocide against jews was a consequence of the Nazi ideology, being a Nazi is more about genetic racism combined combined with extreme nationalism and it manifests in hatred against certain races or ethnic groups. For Nazi Germany,it was jews first, then Slavs and blacks. For the modern day Nazis, it is Russians. The west were very cunning to pardon many Nazis who didn't kill many jews but killed more of Soviets, allowing them to migrate to Canada, Argentina etc. Some of them came back and became founding members of NATO.
Both Russia and Ukraine have a modern day Nazi problem. Both countries are Nazi skinhead shitholes. Fuk dem both. cool

Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by opamoses1: 2:51pm On Jan 28, 2023
StephonClarkS2:

So you're gambling with the lives of Ukrainians? Why not send them the weapons they need to prevent more death?
Not that I care about the lives of Nazis.
I'm just drawing attention to the loophole in your argument.
Death will reduce when Russia pulls out of Ukraine. That's not difficult to do.
Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by opamoses1: 2:55pm On Jan 28, 2023
StephonClarkS2:

Russia, Lithuania, Ukraine, Latvia, Estonia, Georgia,
e.t.c =Soviets.
And history is about to repeat itself.
If the Mujahideens can do it, why not Ukraine?

Fixed.
Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by opamoses1: 2:56pm On Jan 28, 2023
kris:
Maybe you can provide a link about Afghanistan since you keep talking about it.

It was Russia who worked with the Nazis in the past. You keep screaming Nazis, lol
There are people who claim to be Nazis in many countries.

Ukraine, like Russia can be racist. But we will set Ukraine straight as they continue on the journey to join the EU.



Thank you.

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Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by opamoses1: 2:58pm On Jan 28, 2023
atmy1:


Morality, history and time are all on Russia side. All Ukraine had to do was stay neutral, leave Crimea alone and grant autonomy to Donbas, they would have been alright.
Russia broke the Budapest agreement by annexing Crimea.
Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by opamoses1: 2:59pm On Jan 28, 2023
StephonClarkS2:
Are you aware that Russia granted Ukrainian refugees who were persecuted by thier fellow Ukrainians Russian citizenship?
It's reminiscent of WW2.
"Rehabilitated" Germany yet again is collaborating with Ukrainian Nazis to terrorize their fellow Ukrainians.


Talking about refugees,
Nowadays, Russians refugees are fleeing Putin before and after the start of the war.
More have even left after conscription was announced.

Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by opamoses1: 3:21pm On Jan 28, 2023
kris:
Enough to make the leaders in Russia to be screaming escalation. grin

Listen to this Russia guy below, he sounds a lot like you. He's angry about the weapons we are sending
and how Russia is not doing enough to set NATO on fire. grin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBUw5YKUG50


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Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by opamoses1: 3:24pm On Jan 28, 2023
kris:
We go see how it ends. Russia might win in Ukraine, but we are not scared enough to not send weapons to Ukraine.

Russia will think 10 times again before ever invading another country. They did with Georgia in 2008, Ukraine in 2013, and now Ukraine in 2022, but Ukraine has been pushed to the wall this time around. Lunatic Putin thought the short Jew zelensky will run away but the guy gave Putin the middle finger.
Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by opamoses1: 3:26pm On Jan 28, 2023
kris:
Thank you, but we do things our way, we send what we want. We leave it to you guys to say the weapons are bad while complaining that we are sending escalatory weapons to Ukraine. grin

The Russian guy in the video is scared of those weapons getting to the battlefield. He's pushing for them to be destroyed before they get there. grin

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At the bolded, it shows the usual confused state of mind of a Putin support.

That's because, he knows the weapons will be grinding some Russian meat. grin

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Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by Nobody: 5:18pm On Jan 28, 2023
StephonClarkS2:

NATO bloc member disassociate self from NATO's War Against Russia
The US and Germany might be at war with Russia, but that is news to Croatia, said Zoran Milanovic.

Commenting on the German foreign minister’s declaration that Europe is “fighting a war against Russia,” Croatian President Zoran Milanovic said on Thursday that this was news to him, and wished Berlin better luck than in WWII.

Croatia “should in no way help” Ukraine militarily, Milanovic said while visiting the port city of Split. “Do you want us to enter the war?”

Framing the Ukraine conflict as one between Washington and Moscow, he reminded reporters that he was criticized for merely echoing the words of Kiev’s defense minister, about the current conflict being a “proxy war” between NATO and Russia.

“Now the German foreign minister says we must be united, because I quote, we are at war with Russia. I didn’t know that,” Milanovic said. “Maybe Germany is at war with Russia, but then, good luck, maybe this time it turns out better than 70-odd years ago.”

The Croatian president was baffled to hear such a claim from the leader of the German Greens, which he said used to be a pacifist party equally against the US and the USSR, and not from Chancellor Olaf Scholz.

“If we are at war with Russia, then let’s see what we need to do. But we won’t ask Germany for its opinion,” Milanovic added. “Let them figure out who is the actual chancellor over there. I’ve been in politics for a long time, and our country has been through a lot, but I’ve never seen this kind of madness before.”

When it comes to tanks, “Russian or American, they burn just the same,” Milanovic said, noting that deliveries of armor to Ukraine – announced by the US and Germany this week – will only prolong the fighting.

“Those tanks may burn, or they may reach Crimea, but Croatia will have nothing to do with it,” he insisted. The social-democrat president has frequently clashed with the nationalist parliamentary majority over Croatia’s Ukraine policy. Just last month, Milanovic opposed Zagreb’s participation in the EU program to train Ukrainian troops, saying it clashed with Croatia’s constitution.

Unless the US and Russia are holding some kind of talks, the world is “slowly sliding into World War Three,” Milanovic added. “Some people think it has already begun, but I have my reservations.”





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Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by Nobody: 7:47pm On Jan 28, 2023
StephonClarkS2:


NATO bloc member disassociate self from NATO's War Against Russia
The US and Germany might be at war with Russia, but that is news to Croatia, said Zoran Milanovic.

Commenting on the German foreign minister’s declaration that Europe is “fighting a war against Russia,” Croatian President Zoran Milanovic said on Thursday that this was news to him, and wished Berlin better luck than in WWII.

Croatia “should in no way help” Ukraine militarily, Milanovic said while visiting the port city of Split. “Do you want us to enter the war?”

Framing the Ukraine conflict as one between Washington and Moscow, he reminded reporters that he was criticized for merely echoing the words of Kiev’s defense minister, about the current conflict being a “proxy war” between NATO and Russia.

“Now the German foreign minister says we must be united, because I quote, we are at war with Russia. I didn’t know that,” Milanovic said. “Maybe Germany is at war with Russia, but then, good luck, maybe this time it turns out better than 70-odd years ago.”

The Croatian president was baffled to hear such a claim from the leader of the German Greens, which he said used to be a pacifist party equally against the US and the USSR, and not from Chancellor Olaf Scholz.

“If we are at war with Russia, then let’s see what we need to do. But we won’t ask Germany for its opinion,” Milanovic added. “Let them figure out who is the actual chancellor over there. I’ve been in politics for a long time, and our country has been through a lot, but I’ve never seen this kind of madness before.”

When it comes to tanks, “Russian or American, they burn just the same,” Milanovic said, noting that deliveries of armor to Ukraine – announced by the US and Germany this week – will only prolong the fighting.

“Those tanks may burn, or they may reach Crimea, but Croatia will have nothing to do with it,” he insisted. The social-democrat president has frequently clashed with the nationalist parliamentary majority over Croatia’s Ukraine policy. Just last month, Milanovic opposed Zagreb’s participation in the EU program to train Ukrainian troops, saying it clashed with Croatia’s constitution.

Unless the US and Russia are holding some kind of talks, the world is “slowly sliding into World War Three,” Milanovic added. “Some people think it has already begun, but I have my reservations.”





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Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by Nobody: 11:36pm On Jan 28, 2023
opamoses1:

Russia broke the Budapest agreement by annexing Crimea.


Right after ethnic Russians in Crimea and Donbas started facing intense persecution from an illegitimate government brought to power by a coup. Have you read about the Odessa incident?

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Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by Nobody: 11:37pm On Jan 28, 2023
opamoses1:

Russia will think 10 times again before ever invading another country. They did with Georgia in 2008, Ukraine in 2013, and now Ukraine in 2022, but Ukraine has been pushed to the wall this time around. Lunatic Putin thought the short Jew zelensky will run away but the guy gave Putin the middle finger.

Ukraine will always emerge the loser no matter how hard they try. Keep encouraging them.

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Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by Appleyard(m): 11:55pm On Jan 28, 2023
kris:
Yes. They are better than what Ukraine has now and better than what Russia has.

The design protects the people inside even when it's hit. There are videos on youtube you can watch. Not the ones that just show it being hit and catching fire, without showing the aftermath.


Lmao. Leopards better than what Russia has now... cool Tell that to ISIS and Kurdish militias who knock ten leopards out in Syria with Russian made shoulder anti-tank weapons.

No single tank on Earth is faster than a missile. So stop the charade. shocked Tanks or no tanks, Ukraine never stood a chance, and that's a fact.

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Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by kris(m): 1:20am On Jan 29, 2023
So say they are not better than what the Russian tanks, but then went and talked about them being knocked out with anti-tank weapons. You should have said that they were knocked out by the Russian tanks. In case you don't understand what you said, let me break it down for you below:

"You think your 5 year old son can beat my 5 year old son in a fight? Tell that to my 25 year old son who knocked your 5 year old son out in a fight last week". grin You no make sense at all! grin


Looks like you don't know that the Russian tanks are being knocked out by anti-tank weapons in Ukraine. Go watch videos about NLAW and Javelin.

If you find any video online that rates the Russian tanks above the Leopards, please post it here, I'd like to watch. Thank you.

At the end of the day, you guys and Russia should be happy that the West is sending weapons there, so they can be easily destroyed.

Appleyard:


Lmao. Leopards better than what Russia has now... cool Tell that to ISIS and Kurdish militias who knock ten leopards out in Syria with Russian made shoulder anti-tank weapons.

No single tank on Earth is faster than a missile. So stop the charade. shocked Tanks or no tanks, Ukraine never stood a chance, and that's a fact.
Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by Nobody: 1:28am On Jan 29, 2023
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BreonnaTaylor:

Ukraine's Zelensky Says It's Too Late

The Ukrainian president claimed that if the tanks arrive in August it would be too late

President Vladimir Zelensky has criticized Washington’s lack of speed in delivering heavy tanks to Ukraine. In an interview with Sky News on Friday, the Ukrainian leader also warned that Kiev would not be satisfied with a small number of tanks from the West.

Zelensky’s comments come after the US promised on Wednesday to supply Kiev with 31 M1 Abrams tanks, but cautioned that the delivery could take several months or more. The White House explained that it expects to acquire the machines from the industry, rather than pulling them directly from its own stocks.

However, Zelensky complained that if the American tanks arrive as late as August, it will be “too late.” He insisted that a handful of tanks “won’t make a difference on the battlefield.”

The Ukrainian president told Sky News that Kiev currently needs “300 to 500 tanks” in order to be able to launch a counter offensive against Russia.

“It’s not about politics, it’s about specific results on the battlefield,” he said.

The Ukrainian president told Sky News that Kiev currently needs “300 to 500 tanks” in order to be able to launch a counter offensive against Russia.

“It’s not about politics, it’s about specific results on the battlefield,” he said.

Zelensky also thanked the countries that have been delivering weapons to Ukraine and noted that a total of 12 countries have already committed to bolstering Kiev’s tank coalition.

Earlier this week, Germany officially approved the supply to Kiev of 14 Leopard 2A6 tanks from its own stocks and also gave permission to other countries to provide their own German-made armor to the Ukrainian army. Berlin said it expects to deliver the Leopards no later than the end of March.

Other countries that have also pledged their heavy armor to Kiev include the UK, Poland, Canada, Spain, Norway and the Netherlands.

Russia, meanwhile, has warned the West against continuing to supply Ukraine with weapons, arguing that it only serves to prolong the conflict. Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov also warned that German and US tanks will not change the outcome of the fighting and will “burn” like the rest of Western-supplied weaponry.

Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by Nobody: 1:38am On Jan 29, 2023
Appleyard:


Lmao. Leopards better than what Russia has now... cool Tell that to ISIS and Kurdish militias who knock ten leopards out in Syria with Russian made shoulder anti-tank weapons.

No single tank on Earth is faster than a missile. So stop the charade. shocked Tanks or no tanks, Ukraine never stood a chance, and that's a fact.


DebbyParkway:

China Castigates US For Stealing Oil From Syria

It is stated that the Syrian people’s right to life is being ruthlessly trampled on by the US


US theft of Syrian oil exacerbates the energy and humanitarian crisis in the war-torn Middle Eastern country, Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokesman Wang Wenbin said at a briefing on Tuesday.

"According to Syrian government data, in the first half of 2022, over 80% of Syria’s daily oil output was smuggled out of the country by US occupation troops <…> Such banditry is aggravating the energy crisis and humanitarian disaster in Syria. The Syrian people’s right to life is being ruthlessly trampled on by the US," the diplomat said.

"The US must answer for its oil theft. The Syrian people and the international community deserve an answer. We urge the US to stop trampling on international rule of law and breaking international rules," Wang Wenbin emphasized.

Most parts of the Syrian provinces of Deir Ez-Zor, Raqqa and Hasakah in the country’s east and northeast are under the control of the Kurdish Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) backed by the US. According to Lebanon’s Al Mayadeen TV channel, the US-led Western coalition assists the Kurdish autonomous administration in setting up production at mothballed wells. According to the news outlet, this is done in order to create an economic base with subsequent oil sales. Damascus views America’s military presence on Syrian soil as an illegal occupation of the country.

Their game changer weapon is employed in the US occupation of Syria.
They were turned into scrap metals.
They've been unable to depose President Bashar al-Assad.

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Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by Appleyard(m): 10:54am On Jan 29, 2023
kris:
So say they are not better than what the Russian tanks, but then went and talked about them being knocked out with anti-tank weapons. You should have said that they were knocked out by the Russian tanks. In case you don't understand what you said, let me break it down for you below:

"You think your 5 year old son can beat my 5 year old son in a fight? Tell that to my 25 year old son who knocked your 5 year old son out in a fight last week". grin You no make sense at all! grin


Looks like you don't know that the Russian tanks are being knocked out by anti-tank weapons in Ukraine. Go watch videos about NLAW and Javelin.

If you find any video online that rates the Russian tanks above the Leopards, please post it here, I'd like to watch. Thank you.

At the end of the day, you guys and Russia should be happy that the West is sending weapons there, so they can be easily destroyed.


Tanks won't make any difference for Ukraine. The earlier the negotiate w solution to this war the better for the remaining infrastructure of Ukraine.
Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by kris(m): 11:34am On Jan 29, 2023
We go see.
Appleyard:


Tanks won't make any difference for Ukraine. The earlier the negotiate w solution to this war the better for the remaining infrastructure of Ukraine.
Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by Nobody: 3:47pm On Jan 29, 2023
GeorgeFloyd99:

Russia Rolls Out Combat Robot To 'detect And destroy' Tanks

On Wednesday, Washington and Berlin announced they were ready to provide Kiev with M1 Abrams and Leopard 2 tanks in the coming months. The decisions came as Russia continues its special military operation in Ukraine.



A strike version of the Russian-made Marker robot will be capable of hitting the German and US-made main battle tanks, due to be delivered to Ukraine, Dmitry Rogozin, former director general of the Russian federal space agency Roscosmos, has told Sputnik.
He explained that the robot’s control system features an electronic catalog with images of targets in the visible and infrared ranges, which helps the Marker automatically detect the enemy’s military hardware.

"For example, as soon as deliveries of the Abrams and Leopard tanks to the Ukrainian troops begin, the Marker will be fitted with an appropriate electronic image to detect and destroy the US and German tanks with anti-tank guided missiles,” Rogozin said.

He pointed out that the Marker can also prioritize the enemy’s targets when on the front.
The ex-Roscosmos chief said that in February, four Marker robots will be delivered to the Donbass region(Russia), where they are expected to enter service shortly after going through a number of tests.


Rogozin spoke after German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius announced Berlin’s decision to send 14 Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine, something that was followed by US President Joe Biden saying that Washington will deliver 31 Abrams tanks to Kiev.
The Russian Embassy in Germany warned that “this extremely dangerous decision [by Berlin] shifts the Ukrainian conflict to a new level of standoff.” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov for his part told reporters that arms supplies to Ukraine by Western countries testify to their direct and growing involvement in the conflict.

"There are constant statements from European capitals and from Washington that the sending of various weapons systems, including tanks, to Ukraine in no way means the involvement of these countries or the alliance in the hostilities that are taking place in Ukraine. We categorically disagree with this," Peskov added.

Moscow has repeatedly warned that the US and its allies sending military aid to Kiev adds to prolonging the Ukrainian conflict. The Russian Foreign Ministry said that NATO countries “play with fire" by supplying weapons to Kiev, and that any convoy of arms for Ukraine will become a legitimate target for Russian forces.

The Leopards’ first combat experience, and battlefield losses, occurred during the US-led war in Afghanistan. In the course of fighting against the Taliban,* three Canadian and six Danish Leopard 2s were irretrievably lost, with another 15 Canadian Leopards disabled but repaired.
The US led coalition was eventually defeated in Afghanistan in 2021 after about 20 years of fighting.
The Taliban emerged as the victors and sacked the US coalition and it's cronies.

Leopard 2A4 tanks were deployed to northern Syria in 2016 and 2018 for combat missions.
A dozen or more of them were knocked out by IEDs, suicide car bombs, or anti-tank guided missiles.

The M1 Abrams’ debut was during Operation Desert Storm, the US war with Iraq in 1990 and 1991, that aimed to drive the Iraqi army out of Kuwait. Even though the tank performed relatively successfully at the time, several years later, US tank battalions sustained losses in urban combat during Washington's invasion of Iraq. Reportedly, over 80 Abrams had been destroyed by then and 530 more had been forced back to the US for extensive repairs.

When these tanks arrive in Ukraine, a lot of [Russia's] anti-tank weapons, ground-based, stationary, mobile, air-based, various anti-tank systems will be waiting for them.





Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by Otobong3374(m): 4:35pm On Jan 29, 2023
I'm In America Seeing How Some Useless Nigerians Are Fooling Themselves In Such A Way That Will Attrack Shame To Their Useless Family I Always Cry Out. I Always Say This, If NATO Go To War With Russia In A Month Russia Will Turn To Stone Age. Finally, If Russia Is Powerful To Withstand NATO Let Putin Nuke America.
Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by Nobody: 4:55pm On Jan 29, 2023
GeorgeFloyd99:
This butt hurt Nazi above is looking for attention grin
This is all I can give you.

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