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AntiChristian:
So?

AntiChristian:
Because He's capable of doing all things!

Can you tell us why you believe God can't swear by the things He created? Any Bible verse?

FxMasterz:
This particular verse tells us Allah's location. If Allah were to be in heaven, then, he would have said, 'I swear by the angels who take down the revelation',- taking it down from heaven to earth (if he would at all swear by angels), but instead:

"Then I swear by the angels who bring down the revelation," Quran 77:5

If the 'down' where the revelation was brought is not heaven but earth, then, Allah is on earth. Hahahaha!

The demon called allah is exposed.

CC: TenQ

AntiChristian:
Because He's capable of doing all things!

Can you tell us why you believe God can't swear by the things He created? Any Bible verse?

TenQ:
Hebrew 6: 13-16
13For when God made promise to Abraham, because he could swear by no greater, he sware by himself, 14Saying, Surely blessing I will bless thee, and multiplying I will multiply thee. 15And so, after he had patiently endured, he obtained the promise. 16 For men verily swear by the greater: and an oath for confirmation is to them an end of all strife.

Anything God created is BENEATH Him, therefore unlike Allah, God can ONLY swear by Himself!
So you can see that Yahweh never swears by anything other than by Himself: but Allah does, showing that Allah is just Al-LAH


You've been dodging this question:
Can Allah have a son without a consort/girlfriend?

MightySparrow:
If God can do all things being the Almighty, why can't He have a son without a wife?

advocatejare:
The guy just exposed a very important thing about your religion!

AntiChristian:
Because that's only befitting to cellular organisms!

MightySparrow:
If He is the Almighty, is your opinion His actions?

AntiChristian:
You said anything God created is beneath Him yet you believe you God the son became man whom he's beneath? What a contradiction!

It's not beneath God to have son or to have his son killed by humans!

Had Allah willed to take a son (or offspring or children), He could have chosen whom He pleased out of those whom He created. But glory be to Him! (He is above such things). He is Allah, the One, the Irresistible.
Qu'ran 39:4
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advocatejare:
Yahweh can’t swear with anything else other than His Name because there is nothing greater than Him and His Name!

Now answer my own question:

Can Allah have a son without a consort?

AntiChristian:
All things happen by His command.

AntiChristian:
Had Allah willed to take a son (or offspring or children), He could have chosen whom He pleased out of those whom He created. But glory be to Him! (He is above such things). He is Allah, the One, the Irresistible.
Qu'ran 39:4
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advocatejare:
Antichristian!

Come and answer my question:

Can Allah have a son without a consort?

MightySparrow:
Including a special birth of Jesus to whom He bore record that He is His Son. Right?

AntiChristian:
[/quote][quote author=advocatejare post=120466379]AntiChristian I have answered your question. Why can’t you be honorable and answer mine?

Can Allah have a son without a consort?

TenQ:
On the issue of swearing, you asked a question and it has been answered. God cannot swear by His creation as swearing is done with what is great or comparable to oneself.

The Fig, Olive, Moon etc are even beneath me as a human.

Are you saying Allah has a limitation as he cannot enter his "creation"?

You've been dodging this question:
Can Allah have a son without a consort/girlfriend?

Yahweh could make Mary pregnant without a Boyfriend!

AntiChristian:
Eve had a more special birth!

Even Adam!

They are not God's sons/daughter like Jesus!

MightySparrow:
The Bible calls Jesus the last Adam
What is your understanding about that?

AntiChristian:
You didn't answer me!

God was written to have said he can do all things!
And you said He can never swear!
So that means there are some things He can't do like swearing by his creations!
In essence He's limited and not omnipotent!

Allah is able to do all things!
Verily, His Command, when He intends a thing, is only that He says to it, "Be!" and it is!
Qur'an 36:82

Allah has created every moving (living) creature from water. Of them there are some that creep on their bellies, some that walk on two legs, and some that walk on four. Allah creates what He wills. Verily! Allah is Able to do all things.
Qur'an 24:45

AntiChristian:
The Bible or Paul?

So what is Eve?

The first Adam the same Bible claim was a Sinner that infected all humans with sin!

AntiChristian:
Had Allah willed to take a son (or offspring or children), He could have chosen whom He pleased out of those whom He created. But glory be to Him! (He is above such things).He is Allah, the One, the Irresistible.
Qu'ran 39:4

advocatejare:
The lie you included in the bracket: “(He is above such things)” Is not in the Arabic Quran

“Wonderful Originator of the heavens and the earth;
How can He have a son when He has no consort? He created all things, and He hath full knowledge of all things.”
-Quran 6:101

Can you see the confusion in your Quran?

Quran 39:4 says that allah could take a son from one of those he created while Quran 6:101 says that Allah can’t have a son without a consort! Which one should we accept?

Can Allah have a son without a consort or not?

AntiChristian:
I lied? What does Subhannallah mean in Arabic and in that context?

Simply say you are ignorant!
I used the Moshin Khan translation of the Qur'an!
Here is Yusuf Allah's translation
Had Allah wished to take to Himself a son, He could have chosen whom He pleased out of those whom He doth create: but Glory be to Him! (He is above such things.) He is Allah, the One, the Irresistible.

MightySparrow:
Why dodging the question, just explain your understanding. Are you confused?

TenQ:
Antichristian and LegalWolf will pretend not to see this

I swear by the Quran full of wisdom Quran 36:2

I swear by those who draw themselves out in ranks Quran 37:1

I swear by the wind that scatters far and wide, Quran 51:1

I swear by the heaven full of ways. Quran 51:7

I swear by the Mountain, Quran 52:1

I swear by the star when it goes down. Quran 53:1

But nay! I swear by the falling of stars; Quran 56:75

Noon. I swear by the pen and what the angels write Quran 68:1

But nay! I swear by that which you see, Quran 69:38

Nay; I swear by the moon Quran 74:32

Nay! I swear by the day of resurrection. Nay, I swear by the self accusing soul, that the Day of Judgment is a certainty. Quran 75:1-2

I swear by the emissary winds, sent one after another (for men's benefit), Quran 77:1

Then I swear by the angels who bring down the revelation, Quran 77:5

But nay! I swear by the stars, Quran 81:15

But nay! I swear by the sunset redness, Quran 84:16

I swear by the daybreak, Quran 89:1

Nay! I swear by this city Quran 90:1

I swear by the sun and its brilliance Quran 91:1

I swear by the night when it draws a veil, Quran 92:1

I swear by the fig and the olive, and mount Sinai, And this city made secure, Quran 95:1-3

I swear by the runners breathing pantingly Quran 100:1

I swear by the time, Quran 103:1

Ken4Christ:
You just spoke my mind. Meanwhile, AntiChristian is always looking for loopholes in the Bible when his own house is in complete disarray.

Ken4Christ:
You just spoke my mind. Meanwhile, AntiChristian is always looking for loopholes in the Bible when his own house is in complete disarray.

TenQ:
There is even a big difference between the Qur'an and the Bible

1. Qur'an is the verbatim words of Allah and dictated word by word to Mohammed through Jubril. Hence we expect perfection and no iota of error.

2. The Bible is not the Verbatim words of Yahweh. It is words of men speaking on behalf of God by His appointment.

It is IMPOSSIBLE for God Almighty to Err. This standard show that Qur'an is a fabricated Tafsir

Ken4Christ:
What you said is an understatement. There is not even any basis of comparison.

The Bible is the only book in the world that contains the word of God. All other books that claims to have divine origin are fabricated lies.