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AntiChristian:
Jews did call him insane even his family in Mark 3:21

Luke said they were just writing from hearsays in Luke 1:1-4. Na Paul come correct the blunder in 2 Timothy 3:16-17!

AntiChristian:
There's nothing absurd therein. Allah wishes to clear him the way He pleases. And His will was done. We believe in it totally!

AntiChristian:
You believe your God sent his son to be killed on earth for his people to be saved right? I think that is more ridiculous!

AntiChristian:
No! They agreed bastards/Criminals were crucified!

Off point.

What should he have done? Is it not the same stick he used to defeat the sorcerers and split the sea?


He was living in a suite. He should have had a Jacuzzi too!

Actually i only see your foolishness in this thread!

FxMasterz:
I tell you. That's how they all do. I once asked legalwolf how he would feel if someone had distorted the history of his family or tribe like Mohammed did to the Jews. I never even know the Jews already called him a mad man. What other name would be more befitting for a man who comes from nowhere to come and tell me new stories about my family?

MightySparrow:
All about Mohammed doesn't fit into what you would consider in the prophethood. I am amazed how a knowledgeable, gentleman like Antichristian can follow such a man!

TenQ:
Is it true that the Jews in your Qur'an claimed to kill the Messiah son of Mary?

Is it historically accurate that Dhu-Qarnayn saw the sun setting in the murky waters and found a people living there?

So, are you saying that Musa felt that the stone was a messenger of satan that deserved a beating with his magic stick?


What was Moses purpose of beating the stone?

SIRTee15:
But no Jew called him a bastard as you be been insinuating on this thread and previous ones. That's a fictitious imagination of deception from your own mind.
Initially his family doubted him but they eventually became his devout and passionate disciples. His mother was present on the day of Pentecost, Jesus brothers James and Jude were elders in the early church and the later wrote the epistle according to Jude.

Delusion!!! Only way to vindicate Moses in front of the people was to stand naked with his manhood in full glare of women and children. What a god of indecency. U see why we Christians tell u we don't worship the same God.
There are protocols established in the law regarding identification of leprosy. U appear before the priest who examines u, not running around the camp naked chasing a running stone.
Besides, leprosy appears on the scalp, nose, hands and face. That's why prominent people with leprosy in ancient times wear mask and gloves to cover the leprosy. Was Moses wearing any of these??
Your illiterate Mohammed can excuse his ignorance because he couldn't read, but I wonder what will be your excuse of obvious ignorance.

Yes it sounds too unreal but there were eye witnesses who confirmed the death, resurrection and ascension of JESUS CHRIST. if you witness such, u will equally believe.

That can not be said of Islam whose believe his based on what a schizophrenic man claimed he saw and was told by an angel. No eye witnesses, no confirmation, no one received similar revelation, nobody saw him communicating with the angel, nobody to corroborate his stories.

The Jews that challenged his absurd stories like the one re this thread were either killed or kicked out of medina.
Just his own words and gbam Muslims must accept it. No questions must be asked otherwise blasphemy.

Even Aisha knew the whole thing was a scam when she said 'I have noticed your Allah hastens to fulfil your wishes and desire too quickly'. Noticed she said 'your Allah' and 'not Allah or our Allah'. In her mind, she was like this God is just too convenient for this man, what kind of God is that?

Muhammed has packed all Muslims into one chance bus.
And the funny thing is that he will deny them on judgement day because he clearly told them he doesn't know the way to heaven, he's not sure of his own salvation and he's not even sure of making paradise.

MightySparrow:
1. Why did the Jews say, 'Jesus was out His mind'.

2. Why the record of Onanism?

3. What about the incest of Lot's wife?

What do you say about 2 and 3?
They didn't happen?

Was it like the running stone of Moses? A story not heard by Jews themselves, retold by a ' prophet' about 2,500 years later.


You are joking man!
Your prophet is a skit maker!!

AntiChristian:
The thread is about Moses!

I think i have answered your folly well enough!

43Ronin:
I think the haddit is a collection of higness or drug induced fairy tales by mohammed & endorsed by imaginary Allah. Is not this sane haddith that talks about 72 virgins & mohammed sucking young boys dick? Off all the religions, Islam seems to be the one with the most brain-dead congregants

AntiChristian:
Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam will intercede for Muslims!
Allaah has promised to him, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):
“It may be that your Lord will raise you to Maqaam Mahmood (a station of praise and glory, i.e., the honor of intercession on the Day of Resurrection)”[al-Isra’ 17:79]

It was narrated that Anas ibn Maalik said: Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told us: “When the Day of Resurrection comes, the people will surge with each other like waves. They will come to Adam and say, ‘Intercede for us with your Lord.’ He will say, ‘I am not fit for that. Go to Ibraaheem for he is the Close Friend of the Most Merciful.’ So they will go to Ibraaheem, but he will say, ‘I am not fit for that. Go to Moosa for he is the one to whom Allaah spoke directly.’ So they will go to Moosa but he will say, ‘I am not fit for that. Go to ‘Eesa for he is a soul created by Allaah and His Word.’ So they will go to ‘Eesa but he will say, ‘I am not fit for that. Go to Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).’ So they will come to me and I will say, I am fit for that.’ Then I will ask my Lord for permission and He will give me permission, and He will inspire me with words of praise with which I will praise Him, words that I do not know now. So I will praise Him with those words of praise and I will fall down prostrate before Him. He will say, ‘O Muhammad, raise your head. Speak and intercession will be granted to you, ask and you will be given, intercede and your intercession will be accepted.’ I will say, ‘O Lord, my ummah, my ummah!’ He will say, ‘Go and bring forth everyone in whose heart there is faith the weight of a barley-grain.’ So I will go and do that. Then I will come back and praise Him with those words of praise and I will fall down prostrate before Him. He will say, ‘O Muhammad, raise your head. Speak and intercession will be granted to you, ask and you will be given, intercede and your intercession will be accepted.’ I will say, ‘O Lord, my ummah, my ummah!’ He will say, ‘Go and bring forth everyone in whose heart there is faith the weight of a small ant or a mustard-seed.’ So I will go and do that. Then I will come back and praise Him with those words of praise and I will fall down prostrate before Him. He will say, ‘O Muhammad, raise your head. Speak and intercession will be granted to you, ask and you will be given, intercede and your intercession will be accepted.’ I will say, ‘O Lord, my ummah, my ummah!’ He will say, ‘Go and bring forth from the Fire everyone in whose heart there is faith the weight of the lightest, lightest grain of mustard-seed.’ So I will go and bring them forth.” .....
(Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 7510)

AntiChristian:
The writer of the Bible is worse!

Onanism is the act of spilling spermatozoa as a form of contraceptive!
God kill first born for a sin. God killed Onan for Onanism. But their father slept with his daughter in law and she gave birth to an ancestor of Jesus. God didn't kill the father and daughter in law!
[b]And God saved Lot from Homo only for him to enter incest then God blessed him with kids![/b]

No be skit be this!

AntiChristian:
Yeah same way Jesus doesn't fit in to what the Jews should follow till today!



But you still follow Jesus!

fman:
come in here and get your questions about life: answered!!

https://www.nairaland.com/6367965/universal-codesinverse-worldnature-science-etc#98148860

MightySparrow:
You miss it again. You are are a wrong Bible teacher and wrong Quranic student.

You are now becoming a wrong person being shaped by wrong philosophies.
One leaving the true, unchangeable word of God for a conjecture.

Jesus is Lord.

AntiChristian:
So it is a lie that his family called him out of his mind right? I want no excuse since you don't give Muslims any! Jesus was called out of his mind by his family!

You are a fool bro. Do you know why? Your God can kill his son to save you! Even while saving you he would be barely naked sometimes right! Even there are so many deaths your God sanctioned! Job's people and properties were destroyed when Satan whined God!
You'll look for one or more excuse for all that but Muslims need no excuse! Wallow in your hypocrisy and folly!

Mark 14:50 says Everyone fled and deserted Jesus! But you'll keep telling lies that people witnessed shit!

These are all your assumptions. The companions saw Angel Gabriel come to meet the Prophet as a man. They saw Shaitan. They all witnessed the truth!

Same way your God said he was a Jealous God and killed those who worshiped other Gods! Deuteronomy 13:12-19

So When Jesus says "Your God" he also had an ulterior motive? You are adept in reading stupid meaning to things! Yet you remain an ignorant bloke!



You are all simply bigoted and very soon, Christianity will be destroyed completely at its core! You'll all be Christian by mouth and not in deeds!

Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam will intercede for Muslims!
Allaah has promised to him, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):
“It may be that your Lord will raise you to Maqaam Mahmood (a station of praise and glory, i.e., the honor of intercession on the Day of Resurrection)”[al-Isra’ 17:79]

It was narrated that Anas ibn Maalik said: Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told us: “When the Day of Resurrection comes, the people will surge with each other like waves. They will come to Adam and say, ‘Intercede for us with your Lord.’ He will say, ‘I am not fit for that. Go to Ibraaheem for he is the Close Friend of the Most Merciful.’ So they will go to Ibraaheem, but he will say, ‘I am not fit for that. Go to Moosa for he is the one to whom Allaah spoke directly.’ So they will go to Moosa but he will say, ‘I am not fit for that. Go to ‘Eesa for he is a soul created by Allaah and His Word.’ So they will go to ‘Eesa but he will say, ‘I am not fit for that. Go to Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).’ So they will come to me and I will say, I am fit for that.’ Then I will ask my Lord for permission and He will give me permission, and He will inspire me with words of praise with which I will praise Him, words that I do not know now. So I will praise Him with those words of praise and I will fall down prostrate before Him. He will say, ‘O Muhammad, raise your head. Speak and intercession will be granted to you, ask and you will be given, intercede and your intercession will be accepted.’ I will say, ‘O Lord, my ummah, my ummah!’ He will say, ‘Go and bring forth everyone in whose heart there is faith the weight of a barley-grain.’ So I will go and do that. Then I will come back and praise Him with those words of praise and I will fall down prostrate before Him. He will say, ‘O Muhammad, raise your head. Speak and intercession will be granted to you, ask and you will be given, intercede and your intercession will be accepted.’ I will say, ‘O Lord, my ummah, my ummah!’ He will say, ‘Go and bring forth everyone in whose heart there is faith the weight of a small ant or a mustard-seed.’ So I will go and do that. Then I will come back and praise Him with those words of praise and I will fall down prostrate before Him. He will say, ‘O Muhammad, raise your head. Speak and intercession will be granted to you, ask and you will be given, intercede and your intercession will be accepted.’ I will say, ‘O Lord, my ummah, my ummah!’ He will say, ‘Go and bring forth from the Fire everyone in whose heart there is faith the weight of the lightest, lightest grain of mustard-seed.’ So I will go and bring them forth.” .....
(Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 7510)

fman:
this can only be from the Arabian Tales by Aladdin!!!
Where the stone dey?
Na that one wey dey for Mecca?
Wey u guys visit for pilgrimage? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

terrezo2002:
Dem don get this one.
DMCA, come and see. Your story about this guy is absolutely correct

SIRTee15:
This one don vex.
Anyway just like TenQ advised, we will let u be.
Besides all u did is rant without addressing any point.

But don't come here and spew that nonsense that Jews called Jesus a bastard.

I know deception and lies is a virtue in Islam according to Muhammad but keep it amongst your gullible Muslims.

MightySparrow:
Antichristian, you are not always detailed in your quotes because you don't know the Bible. You display more of ignorance than knowledge. In each case you quoted.

1. What are the historical facts.

2. They were committed before the Law was giving to Moses.

3. Onan was killed for his wickedness because
he refused to raise children for his dead
brother not the spliling of spermatozoa.

4. Lots family was latter punished for the act.

You know my problem with you is that you post out of blindfolded ignorance not of knowledge but to cover up the weakness of Islamic claims.

If you want to debate raise a topic. Seek sincere answers.
You will soon leave Islam like MaximumSide.

AntiChristian:
Which point was not addressed? Do you even have any point?



Celsus, 2nd-century Greek philosopher and opponent of Early Christianity, mounts a wide criticism against Jesus as the founder of the Christian faith. He discounts or disparages Jesus' ancestry, conception, birth, childhood, ministry, death, resurrection, and continuing influence. According to Celsus, Jesus' ancestors came from a Jewish village. His mother was a poor country girl who earned her living by spinning cloth. He worked his miracles by sorcery and was a small, homely man. This Rabbi Jesus kept all Jewish customs, including sacrifice at the Temple in Jerusalem. He gathered only a few followers and taught them his worst habits, including begging for money. These disciples, amounting to "ten boatmen and a couple of tax collectors" were not respectable. The reports of his resurrection came from a hysterical female, and belief in the resurrection was the result of Jesus' sorcery and the crazed thinking of his followers, all for the purpose of impressing others and increasing the chance for others to become beggars.

According to Celsus, Jesus was the inspiration for skulking rebels who deserve persecution.

Celsus stated that Jesus was the bastard child of the Roman soldier Panthera or Pantera. These charges of illegitimacy are the earliest datable statement of the Jewish charge that Jesus was conceived as the result of adultery (see Jesus in the Talmud) and that his true father was a Roman soldier named Panthera. Panthera was a common name among Roman soldiers of that period. The name has some similarity to the Greek adjective parthenos, meaning "virgin". The tomb of a Roman soldier named Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera, found in Bad Kreuznach, Germany, is taken by some scholars to refer to the Pantera named by Celsus.

According to Celsus, Jesus had no standing in the Hebrew Bible prophecies and talk of his resurrection was foolishness.



Paul said: Someone might argue, “If my falsehood enhances God’s truthfulness and so increases his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner?” Romans 3:7

AntiChristian:
Which point was not addressed? Do you even have any point?



Celsus, 2nd-century Greek philosopher and opponent of Early Christianity, mounts a wide criticism against Jesus as the founder of the Christian faith. He discounts or disparages Jesus' ancestry, conception, birth, childhood, ministry, death, resurrection, and continuing influence. According to Celsus, Jesus' ancestors came from a Jewish village. His mother was a poor country girl who earned her living by spinning cloth. He worked his miracles by sorcery and was a small, homely man. This Rabbi Jesus kept all Jewish customs, including sacrifice at the Temple in Jerusalem. He gathered only a few followers and taught them his worst habits, including begging for money. These disciples, amounting to "ten boatmen and a couple of tax collectors" were not respectable. The reports of his resurrection came from a hysterical female, and belief in the resurrection was the result of Jesus' sorcery and the crazed thinking of his followers, all for the purpose of impressing others and increasing the chance for others to become beggars.

According to Celsus, Jesus was the inspiration for skulking rebels who deserve persecution.

Celsus stated that Jesus was the bastard child of the Roman soldier Panthera or Pantera. These charges of illegitimacy are the earliest datable statement of the Jewish charge that Jesus was conceived as the result of adultery (see Jesus in the Talmud) and that his true father was a Roman soldier named Panthera. Panthera was a common name among Roman soldiers of that period. The name has some similarity to the Greek adjective parthenos, meaning "virgin". The tomb of a Roman soldier named Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera, found in Bad Kreuznach, Germany, is taken by some scholars to refer to the Pantera named by Celsus.

According to Celsus, Jesus had no standing in the Hebrew Bible prophecies and talk of his resurrection was foolishness.

AntiChristian:
What historical facts?
That's none of my business. Your God permitted incest in one of the ancestors of Jesus. Even Lot was saved from Homo but God sent him to incest.
Who raise kids for the dead? Which kind barbaric custom is that?
Why didn't God prevent it? Didn't He knew such would happen?
And why was Job's family and properties killed/destroyed when Satan whined God?




I think you are the ignoramus here! I won't leave Islam but die in it. Aamin
Why ask me to raise a topic when you are the ones tagging me around?

TenQ:
According to Islam, is Celsius correct and is Celsus a worthy source of Islam

MightySparrow:
You don't believe in prophet Musa again? These books are his. Show me any ayat or Hadith that asks you to reject Torah of Musa.

As a true Muslim you will reject.

If one qoutes a Hadith you will reject.
If one qoutes Quran you will deny.
If one qoutes Tasfir you will condemn.

Muslims can lie!
Islam is confusion.

SIRTee15:
Is this AntiChristian really a Muslim or a pagan masquerading as a Muslim. Or even an atheist.
See what he wrote about Jesus son of Mary. Choosing the word of a pagan over what's written in the Koran.

Say this blasphemy in front a mosque in Kano or in Pakistan, and see if u won't be beheaded and your remains burnt to ashes.

TenQ:
According to Islam, is Celsius correct and is Celsus a worthy source of Islam

AntiChristian:
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Of course we believe in Musa and the Torah revealed to him! The Torah was not written for him by others like the Bible! There's actually no evidence Moses wrote the whole Pentateuch not to talk of the old testament!
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You're the liar!

MightySparrow:
Ok, I agree with you. Which part of Pentateuch is not acceptable to you and why?

AntiChristian:
I just gave that to your colleague in folly who is always saying " The Jews confirmed Jesus", The Jews did this and that". Where did i say it was correct?