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Solocoin:
Okay let start from here? Before Christ died, he have disciples right? He teach them and also give them instructions?
Now I want you to read Act 1 and Act 2 both places read from one to the end. You're not still getting my explanation. If you're a citizen of Nigeria you will be know as a Nigerian. If you're a follower of Christ you're a Christian.

Now answer me was Mohammed a Muslim? Did he start the Muslim? Did he worship as a Muslim?

AntiChristian:
So the religion Christ Practiced actually had no name till Christ died and some unknown disbelievers in Christ gave some people a name? Seems you don't get my point! During the lifetime of Jesus, there was no religion named Christianity! No one was called a Christian.
Islam was the religion during the time of Muhammad and he called himself a Muslim.Yes, Muhammad was a Muslim. He called himself one.
Allah called the disciples of Jesus Muslims in the Qur'an.Allah also called Moses, Noah and Abraham Muslims.
In fact all Prophets are Muslims in Islam.

Kajibona:
■ You Quoted Zaphania 3 V 9. That Really Caught My Attention. You Know, I Warned You Not To Throw Stones Because It May Boomrang. My Dear, That Is Another Topic Entirely. Zephania Was Substantiating And Corroborating Muslims And Islam Not To Christians At All.
■ But, I Do Not Want To Digress. Brethren, Please I Want You To Do Me A Favour. Please, For The Sake Of Understanding, Who Is God? Jehovah Or God? Who Should We Worship? You Circumvented That Question Earlier. This Will Make Us Understand The Nature Of Salvation Itself.

MightySparrow:
What are the qualifications?

MaxInDHouse:
It's written in a book that you took seriously so it's your own book that says so not what all books say!

AntiChristian:
Anyone who submits only to the supreme God and obeys Him (through the Prophet He sent) is a Muslim.

MightySparrow:
We are saying the same thing: Adam and Nuhu and Musa and ibrahim and Yahaya and Isa. All of them said Shahada and are Muslims!

AntiChristian:
Anyone who submits only to the supreme God and obeys Him (through the Prophet He sent) is a Muslim.

AntiChristian:
They are Muslims by submission!

Don't be a mumu!

AntiChristian:
But your book never mentioned Christianity nor Judaism!

Lukuluku69:
My concern is Islam. Let the Buddhists and others take you up why you are obsessed with them too.

AntiChristian:
So the religion Christ Practiced actually had no name till Christ died and some unknown disbelievers in Christ gave some people a name?
Seems you don't get my point! During the lifetime of Jesus, there was no religion named Christianity! No one was called a Christian.

Islam was the religion during the time of Muhammad and he called himself a Muslim.



Yes, Muhammad was a Muslim. He called himself one.
Allah called the disciples of Jesus Muslims in the Qur'an.
Allah also called Moses, Noah and Abraham Muslims.
In fact all Prophets are Muslims in Islam.

AntiChristian:
■ So the religion Christ Practiced actually had no name till Christ died and some unknown disbelievers in Christ gave some people a name?
■ Seems you don't get my point! During the lifetime of Jesus, there was no religion named Christianity! No one was called a Christian.
■ Islam was the religion during the time of Muhammad and he called himself a Muslim.
Yes, Muhammad was a Muslim. He called himself one.
Allah called the disciples of Jesus Muslims in the Qur'an. Allah also called Moses, Noah and Abraham Muslims. In fact all Prophets are Muslims in Islam.

Kajibona:
Christianity! Hmmm! Please, my christian brothrens, l am not out to condemn anybody but to reason with you. I am a Muslim and according to the book of Isaiah:' Come let us reason together said the Lord' . Honestly, no one can guide aright except Allah. I pray that Allah will guide you all (Aamin). Is Christianity a religion? Was Jesus a Christian? These are crucial questions that all Christians cannot Substantiate in the Bible. Please, i want a Christian who is conversant with his
Or her bible to answer. Tell me where Jesus said he brought a religion called christianity. Was Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses etc CHRISTIAN? Who was paul the concoctor of Christianity? Answer me first and i will reveal to you who this impostor was- using your bible as evidences and you will realise what you have not heard nor seen before in the Bible.THE HIDDEN TRUTH. THE HIDDEN KNOWLEDGE.

Kajibona:
So now Christians, this is a big cumbersome question. 'ARE YOU FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST?'

delkuf:
Yes I am

Kobojunkie:
A Jesus Christ instead said, His followers are those who live their lives in continuous submission and obedience to His teachings and commandments - John 8 vs 31 - 36 - not those of you who submit to and obey the doctrines and traditions of men(and their churches), lies, which you hide behind the name of Jesus Christ- Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13.

delkuf:
■ And I told I obey the doctrines and traditions of men.
■ That is why you couldn't answer that question about bringing out the verse in Exodus. You just be jumping up and down with evil doctrines and believes

Kobojunkie:
1. Jesus Christ did not practice a religion. Instead, He live in obedience to God's Law of Moses, the National Constitution of the Nation of Israel in the land of Canaan.

2. Jesus Christ did not call His own followers to living by the very same Law which He lived by as He instead gave them a New and different Law which He then bid them to submit to and obey. Given this, it is then of error to claim that Followers of Jesus Christ ought to live by God same Law that Jesus Christ lived.

3. Jesus Christ submitted to YHWH, so also did all the prophets from Moses until John the Baptist, the last of them. Then Jesus Christ commanded His own followers to submit to a different God. And we know YHWH is not Alllah, neither is Jesus Christ Allah. Now, if all are simply Muslims on grounds of submission to a deity , then wouldnt that also imply that all idol worshippers out there who equally submit are also Muslims?

Solocoin:
This is very funny Allah everyone Muslim, that's a really misconception and your religious is giving you a false information about others religion. So what is allow call atheist?

You didn't read the place I gave you and you're just here for argument and not learning. You also have understand about English. Now show me where Mohammed was call himself a Muslim.

MaxInDHouse:
Perhaps you need to know where the word first appear! Act 11:26

What your book says is of no relevance if with your Allah, Qur'an, Muhammad and Islam you people can't secure LOVE, JOY and PEACE in any of all the different sects claiming Muslims on this planet.

Once politics or racism calls the same person with whom you climbed Arafat is no longer your brother because instantly he becomes your enemy that you should kill at a go!

MightySparrow:
They prayed facing Mecca.
They knacked their heads on the the ground.
They killed for Allah.

You said they submitted to Allah through Mohammed.
(Anyone who submits only to the supreme God and obeys Him (through the Prophet He sent) is a Muslim)

You are a potato.

AntiChristian:
The word actually never appear!
Christian is not Christianity!
And being Christ-like is not a religion!

MaxInDHouse:
Says brainwashed you!

AntiChristian:
You are watchtower brainwashed!

AntiChristian:
■I get it. You are not really a "Christian" as others.You mean Jesus was a Jew (i.e. practiced Judaism) but gave you Christian laws?
■Our Belief is that all Prophet including Adam till Jesus and Muhammad are Muslims. I don't know why the jews were afraid to call your God's name (YHWH/YHVH) but the name of the creator of the earth and everything who deserved our worship is Allah.
■ Not that Muslims don't believe Allah has a son whether metaphorically, spiritually or physically! Neither do any Prophet believe God has a Spiritual son siting next to his throne in heaven!
■ As regards idol worshipers, they also believe in blood redemption in one way or the other, Animal blood or human blood. They also worship many gods which throws them out of Islam. Allah has no partners, helper, son, wife, etc in his dominion and sovereignty! To Him alone we direct our worship, supplication and prayers!

AntiChristian:
Atheists are simply disbelievers!



We learn each day.
Muhammad did all what Muslims do today!
He prayed Salah 5 times daily!
He fasted in the month of Ramadan!
He went for Hajj Pilgrimage in Mecca.
He commanded Zakaah to be payed
He taught people to about the articles of faith!

(3:102) Believers! Fear Allah as He should be feared, and see that you do not die save in the state of submission to Allah (as Muslims).

AntiChristian:
Atheists are simply disbelievers!



We learn each day.
Muhammad did all what Muslims do today!
He prayed Salah 5 times daily!
He fasted in the month of Ramadan!
He went for Hajj Pilgrimage in Mecca.
He commanded Zakaah to be payed
He taught people to about the articles of faith!

(3:102) Believers! Fear Allah as He should be feared, and see that you do not die save in the state of submission to Allah (as Muslims).

Solocoin:
It means he didn't have name for them?
I now see the reason you people terrorising others people that is what you people learn from Mohammed.

AntiChristian:
Islam in a general sense means submitting to Allaah alone, which implies worshipping Him alone and obeying Him alone.
Everyone who believes in Allaah alone and worships Him according to His laws that have not been abrogated is a Muslim.

Shaykh al-Islam said in al-Tadmuriyyah, p. 168-170:
This religion is the religion of Islam, besides which Allaah will accept no other religion, either from the earlier or the later generations. All the Prophets followed Islam.

Allaah says of Nooh (interpretation of the meaning):
“And recite to them the news of Nooh (Noah). When he said to his people: ‘O my people, if my stay (with you), and my reminding (you) of the Ayaat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) of Allaah is hard on you, then I put my trust in Allaah. So devise your plot, you and your partners, and let not your plot be in doubt for you. Then pass your sentence on me and give me no respite.

72. ‘But if you turn away (from accepting my doctrine of Islamic Monotheism, i.e. to worship none but Allaah), then no reward have I asked of you, my reward is only from Allaah, and I have been commanded to be of the Muslims (i.e. those who submit to Allaah’s Will)’”
[Yoonus 10:71-72]

And Allaah says of Ibraaheem (interpretation of the meaning):
“And who turns away from the religion of Ibraaheem (Abraham) (i.e. Islamic Monotheism) except him who befools himself? Truly, We chose him in this world and verily, in the Hereafter he will be among the righteous.

131. When his Lord said to him, ‘Submit (i.e. be a Muslim)!’ He said, ‘I have submitted myself (as a Muslim) to the Lord of the ‘Aalameen (mankind, jinn and all that exists).’

132. And this (submission to Allaah, Islam) was enjoined by Ibraaheem (Abraham) upon his sons and by Ya’qoob (Jacob) (saying), ‘O my sons! Allaah has chosen for you the (true) religion, then die not except in the Faith of Islam (as Muslims — Islamic Monotheism)’”

[al-Baqarah 2:130-132]

And He says of Moosa (interpretation of the meaning):
“And Moosa (Moses) said: ‘O my people! If you have believed in Allaah, then put your trust in Him if you are Muslims (those who submit to Allaah’s Will)’”
[Yoonus 10:84]

And He says of the Messiah (interpretation of the meaning):
“And when I (Allaah) inspired Al‑Hawariyyoon (the disciples) [of ‘Eesa (Jesus)] to believe in Me and My Messenger, they said: ‘We believe. And bear witness that we are Muslims’”
[al-Maa'idah 5:111]

And He says of the previous Prophets (interpretation of the meaning):
“…by which the Prophets, who submitted themselves to Allaah’s Will …”
[al-Maa’idah 5:44]

And He tells us that Bilqeez said (interpretation of the meaning):
“My Lord! Verily, I have wronged myself, and I submit [in Islam, together with Sulaymaan (Solomon)] to Allaah, the Lord of the ‘Aalameen(mankind, jinn and all that exists)”
[al-Naml 27:44]

Islam in a general sense means submitting to Allaah alone, which implies worshipping Him alone and obeying Him alone.

Solocoin:
It means he didn't have name for them?

AntiChristian:
Allah says in the Qur'an:

And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers.

AntiChristian:
Allah says in the Qur'an:

And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers.