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First Ukraine, Now China by rottennaija(m): 8:31am On Feb 25, 2023

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mA6zu8Gxx0c

Re: First Ukraine, Now China by rottennaija(m): 8:35am On Feb 25, 2023

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7I5mrWipls

Re: First Ukraine, Now China by Regex: 9:00am On Feb 25, 2023
rottennaija:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7I5mrWipls

It is nice to see some Americans speak the truth for a change.

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Re: First Ukraine, Now China by aigohior(m): 9:05am On Feb 25, 2023
Taiwan is not that dumb to fall in the same mistake as Ukraine.


Fight your neighbors that is a world power, while hoping another world power thousand of mile away will fight for you.

Ukraine made that mistake

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Re: First Ukraine, Now China by rottennaija(m): 9:11am On Feb 25, 2023
aigohior:
Taiwan is not that dumb to fall in the same mistake as Ukraine.


Fight your neighbors that is a world power, while hoping another world power thousand of mile away will fight for you.

Ukraine made that mistake

You think? Leaders of most countries are generally dumb. Check out Japan, after all US did against them, even nuking them after they had surrendered, but they still want to be used by the US against China. Check out the EU, despite all the sanctions making their lives worse, anything the US want, they do.

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Re: First Ukraine, Now China by rottennaija(m): 9:51am On Feb 25, 2023
Bloomberg writes that Russia has frozen Western assets in its possession to the amount of $150 billion.
Many investors are afraid to say they have investments in Russia, making it difficult to calculate the exact amount.

Global financial giants like JPMorgan, Black Rock, etc. are among those "affected".

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Re: First Ukraine, Now China by pansophist(m): 11:34am On Feb 25, 2023
aigohior:
Taiwan is not that dumb to fall in the same mistake as Ukraine.


Fight your neighbors that is a world power, while hoping another world power thousand of mile away will fight for you.

Ukraine made that mistake

Ukraine didn't make a mistake, the same way America didn't make a mistake attacking Japan when it attacked pearl harbor. The fact is that since 2014 when the western sponsored coup that toppled their democratically elected president occurred, Ukraine seized to be a sovereign nation and effectively became the 51st state of America unofficially.

So the US is basically defending its territory rightfully. Sun Tzu says, “To know your enemy, you must become your enemy,” but how do you become your enemy? You need to put yourself in the place of your enemy so you can predict his actions.

The world is under US hegemony, and any evils that strengthen such hegemony are just a means to an end, or collateral damage, in other words, it's acceptable. That's why Iraq, Syria, Libya, Venezuela, Afghanistan, Kosovo, etc, and now the Ukraine coup was acceptable (in the eyes of the west since it's in their interest).

The US government goes around the world bombing and destroying countries illegally, forcing democracy on them, sanctioning and stealing their gold and foreign reserves, and no one sanctioned them, but Russia went into Ukraine, a country they share thousands of km of land border with, for legitimate reasons, the US can't stand it because Russia´s interest doesn't strengthen its hegemony.

So the idea that Ukraine messed up by believing the US will save it is technically incorrect, simply because Ukraine is not sovereign. Only a sovereign country can make such mistakes, not a vassal.

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Re: First Ukraine, Now China by aigohior(m): 2:07pm On Feb 25, 2023
pansophist:
Ukraine didn't make a mistake, the same way America didn't make a mistake attacking Japan when it attacked pearl harbor.

Japan to USA is 10,144 km separated by sea
Ukraine to Russia is 4,663 km separated by land

The war started because USA wanted to build a military base in Ukraine to monitor Russia. Imagine someone putting a camera outside your door to spy on you

The world is under US hegemony, and any evils that strengthen such hegemony are just a means to an end, or collateral damage, in other words, it's acceptable. That's why Iraq, Syria, Libya, Venezuela, Afghanistan, Kosovo, etc, and now Ukraine, are acceptable.
Did you just say killing of thousands of people are acceptable?
I will assume that you are being sarcastic


USA sends hundreds of spy balloon into China every year. Now China sends one and they are crying wolf.
You know that China invented 5G and America told the world that it is a Spyware. You will be surprised that when America lunches their own version of 5G it will no longer be a Spyware.


America is a powerful nation and has fought more wars but Russia has won more wars.

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Re: First Ukraine, Now China by mysticwarrior(m): 3:49pm On Feb 25, 2023
Regex:


It is nice to see some Americans speak the truth for a change.
These are the few sensible Americans we have unlike the pro Americans here on nairaland who keep wallowing in dilusions.
Re: First Ukraine, Now China by Regex: 3:51pm On Feb 25, 2023
mysticwarrior:
These are the few sensible Americans we have unlike the pro Americans here on nairaland who keep wallowing in dilusions.

The thing is no be their money government deh use sponsor war, if not them for the shout too.

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Re: First Ukraine, Now China by Arrowhead231: 3:59pm On Feb 25, 2023
pansophist:


Ukraine didn't make a mistake, the same way America didn't make a mistake attacking Japan when it attacked pearl harbor. The fact is that since 2014 when the western sponsored coup that toppled their democratically elected president occurred, Ukraine seized to be a sovereign nation and effectively became the 51st state of America unofficially.

So the US is basically defending its territory rightfully. Sun Tzu says, “To know your enemy, you must become your enemy,” but how do you become your enemy? You need to put yourself in the place of your enemy so you can predict his actions.

The world is under US hegemony, and any evils that strengthen such hegemony are just a means to an end, or collateral damage, in other words, it's acceptable. That's why Iraq, Syria, Libya, Venezuela, Afghanistan, Kosovo, etc, and now Ukraine, are acceptable.

The US government goes around the world bombing and destroying countries illegally, forcing democracy on them, sanctioning and stealing their gold and foreign reserves, and no one sanctioned them, but Russia went into Ukraine, a country they share thousands of km of land border with, for legitimate reasons, the US can't stand it because Russia´s interest doesn't strengthen its hegemony.

So the idea that Ukraine messed up by believing the US will save it is technically incorrect, simply because Ukraine is not sovereign. Only a sovereign country can make such mistakes, not a vassal.
Fighting a war you know you can never win is a mistake, and Ukraine is a sovereign nation please.
Re: First Ukraine, Now China by pansophist(m): 4:29pm On Feb 25, 2023
Arrowhead231:

Fighting a war you know you can never win is a mistake, and Ukraine is a sovereign nation please.

Who is fighting a war it can never win?

And no, Ukraine officially lost its sovereignty after the 2014 coup, sponsored and supported by the West.

You think they will spend so much trillions and risk loosing their hegemony for nothing? If they care so much about democracy, why are they silent on the current Israeli genocide in Palestine?

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Re: First Ukraine, Now China by Nobody: 4:34pm On Feb 25, 2023
pansophist:


Who is fighting a war it can never win?

And no, Ukraine officially lost its sovereignty after the 2014 coup, sponsored and supported by the West.

You think they will spend so much trillions and risk loosing their hegemony for nothing? If they care so much about democracy, why are they silent on the current Israeli genocide in Palestine?

Re: First Ukraine, Now China by Karnice600: 8:37pm On Feb 25, 2023
aigohior:
Taiwan is not that dumb to fall in the same mistake as Ukraine.


Fight your neighbors that is a world power, while hoping another world power thousand of mile away will fight for you.

Ukraine made that mistake
What mistake? Resisting an unprovoked invasion is a mistake?
You talk like one of those life's mistakes too
Re: First Ukraine, Now China by Kingsnairaland(m): 2:58am On Feb 26, 2023
It reminds me of the message "Assad must go" which did not end well........ NATO is an overhype organization, infact they are aware Russia is heavy for them hence the proxy war in Ukraine.......... What happened to that well publisized Ukrainian offensive that was suppose to push back Russians 🤣

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Re: First Ukraine, Now China by rottennaija(m): 5:15am On Feb 26, 2023
Karnice600:

What mistake? Resisting an unprovoked invasion is a mistake?
You talk like one of those life's mistakes too

It wasn't an unprovoked invasion. Ukraine chooses to be used by the US to threaten Russia. So they get what comes to them. Taiwan is toeing the same line, they will get what comes to them.

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Re: First Ukraine, Now China by Hotice085: 6:35am On Feb 26, 2023
Regex:


It is nice to see some Americans speak the truth for a change.



What is SOME?
Do you think America is like Russia China Iran and North Korea were everybody are forced to watch and listened to only the state media?
Do you think CNN and FOX tv share the same views?
Do you think the Republicans and Democrats share same idealogy, even the war in Ukraine you think the Republicans do give a Bleep about it?
Re: First Ukraine, Now China by Hotice085: 6:41am On Feb 26, 2023
rottennaija:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mA6zu8Gxx0c
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The reason America will and continue to be the greatest nation on earth for the next 1000years

Plz tell me if this can happen in Russia China or any other God forsaken country you and your fellow chicken brain gangsters always puff ya flat chest about
Re: First Ukraine, Now China by rottennaija(m): 6:43am On Feb 26, 2023
Hotice085:
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The reason America will and continue to be the greatest nation on earth for the next 1000years

Plz tell me if this can happen in Russia China or any other God forsaken country you and your fellow chicken brain gangsters always puff ya flat chest about


1000years? If Americans they can even keep their hegemony in the next 20 years.

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Re: First Ukraine, Now China by Hotice085: 6:45am On Feb 26, 2023
rottennaija:


1000years? If Americans they can even keep their hegemony in the next 20 years.


That's why I call you chicken 🐔🍗 brain
Re: First Ukraine, Now China by seunny4lif(m): 10:12am On Feb 26, 2023
rottennaija:


1000years? If Americans they can even keep their hegemony in the next 20 years.
France was humiliated by the Americans in the situation with the cancellation of the order for submarines for Australia, but did nothing against it" - Putin

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