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Re: Don't Be Biased!!! Can I Become President Without 25% In FCT? by waynetee(m): 2:21am On Mar 01, 2023
Ennoloa:
Explain this two sentence for ease

Have 25% in 24 States out of 36 and FCT
Have 25% in 24 States out of 36 and THE FCT
The first sentence :
When you say ``Jesus is my lord and Savior ``
In this case my Lord is also my savior.

SO fct is also a state!

The second sentence is not correct! Go and ask any English major.. THE FCT means fct is a different entity, that means the 36 states took one place while Fct also took one place

If you claim fct is not treated as a state then we should have something like "have 25% in both fct and 24 states" since they are different entity.
Re: Don't Be Biased!!! Can I Become President Without 25% In FCT? by azpekuliar: 2:21am On Mar 01, 2023
PointB:
According to the Nigerian constitution, Tinubu will NOT be declared winner. The best he can hope for is a run-off. Atiku will win the run-off, and Obi will retrieve his mandate from Atiku.
The thought of a run off with Obi will be an absolute nightmare for Tinubu cheesy
Re: Don't Be Biased!!! Can I Become President Without 25% In FCT? by Ennoloa: 2:29am On Mar 01, 2023
waynetee:
The first sentence :
When you say ``Jesus is my lord and Savior ``
In this case my Lord is also my savior.

SO fct is also a state!

The second sentence is not correct! Go and ask any English major.

If you claim fct is not treated as a state then we should have something like "have 25% in both fct and 24 states" since they are different entity.
You say it's not correct but its the sentence that's on the constitution which is this

he has not less than one-quarter of the votes cast at the election each of at least two-thirds of all the States in the Federation and the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja.

or constitution sentence is not correct according to a Prof like you

I agree with your first explanation tho 100%
Re: Don't Be Biased!!! Can I Become President Without 25% In FCT? by waynetee(m): 2:33am On Mar 01, 2023
Ennoloa:
You say it's not correct but its the sentence that's on the constitution which is this

he has not less than one-quarter of the votes cast at the election each of at least two-thirds of all the States in the Federation and the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja.

or constitution sentence is not correct according to a Prof like you

I agree with your first explanation tho 100%
May i see that second sentence in the constitution? smiley
Re: Don't Be Biased!!! Can I Become President Without 25% In FCT? by Ennoloa: 2:38am On Mar 01, 2023
waynetee:
May i see that second sentence in the constitution? smiley
https://jurist.ng/constitution/sec-134

That is where APC lose this election on first balot

There is difference when it says have 25% on 24 States and FCT , Have 25% on 24 States and THE FCT
Re: Don't Be Biased!!! Can I Become President Without 25% In FCT? by Ahuitzotl: 2:39am On Mar 01, 2023
waynetee:
The first sentence :
When you say ``Jesus is my lord and Savior ``
In this case my Lord is also my savior.

SO fct is also a state!

The second sentence is not correct! Go and ask any English major.. THE FCT means fct is a different entity, that means the 36 states took one place while Fct also took one place

If you claim fct is not treated as a state then we should have something like "have 25% in both fct and 24 states" since they are different entity.
[color=#1986BC] What about Jesus is my Lord And The Saviour? [/color]
Re: Don't Be Biased!!! Can I Become President Without 25% In FCT? by sonnie10: 2:42am On Mar 01, 2023
waynetee:
Oh he should have used awaiting result mode to enter if he's despirate!


How does that relate to this?
The constitution says one quarter of votes in 2/3 of all the states AND INCLUDING FCT.
Re: Don't Be Biased!!! Can I Become President Without 25% In FCT? by NothingDoMe: 2:48am On Mar 01, 2023
updatechange:
A rerun will do it… but I’m confident Asiwaju will reclaim his mandate
If he goes up against Atiku it will be very tough. Pray hard.
Re: Don't Be Biased!!! Can I Become President Without 25% In FCT? by waynetee(m): 2:48am On Mar 01, 2023
Ennoloa:
https://jurist.ng/constitution/sec-134

That is where APC lose this election on first balot

There is difference when it says have 25% on 24 States and FCT , Have 25% on 24 States and THE FCT
I've checked it. To be honest it is obvious fct is not a state, so that The is permitted. But is later stated that it should be treated as such nonetheless(state) so that takes us back to sentence number one literally
Re: Don't Be Biased!!! Can I Become President Without 25% In FCT? by Ennoloa: 2:48am On Mar 01, 2023
waynetee:
May i see that second sentence in the constitution? smiley
Have you seen and come to a conclusion
Re: Don't Be Biased!!! Can I Become President Without 25% In FCT? by waynetee(m): 2:50am On Mar 01, 2023
sonnie10:
The constitution says one quarter of votes in 2/3 of all the states AND INCLUDING FCT.
Including is not there, that would have been a different sentence
Re: Don't Be Biased!!! Can I Become President Without 25% In FCT? by Ennoloa: 2:50am On Mar 01, 2023
waynetee:
I've checked it. To be honest it is obvious fct is not a state, so that The is permitted. But is later stated that it should be treated as such nonetheless(state) so that takes us back to sentence number one literally
Don't confuse yourself

FCT is a state that don't elect a Governor... the presiden impose a Minister on them

In democracy you need to be the people choice even tho you are rigging it

You can't have 1% in FCT and impose a Minister for them when they are yet to accept you

That is not democracy

That is why the statement THE FCT and not 25% in 24 States and FCT
Re: Don't Be Biased!!! Can I Become President Without 25% In FCT? by Ennoloa: 2:53am On Mar 01, 2023
waynetee:
Including is not there, that would have been a different sentence
Ask any Professor in English to tell you the definition of the two statement

Basically you don't need to win FCT, Just have 25%

How hard is it?
Re: Don't Be Biased!!! Can I Become President Without 25% In FCT? by 2mch(m): 2:54am On Mar 01, 2023
You guys are really desperate sha. E go clear una eyes. So some people living in Abuja will determine a win even when a candidate has majority states and majority votes. You guys are sick in the head. I think na malaria. Sooner you accept reality, the better for you. Tomorrow it will be declared
Re: Don't Be Biased!!! Can I Become President Without 25% In FCT? by waynetee(m): 2:58am On Mar 01, 2023
Ahuitzotl:
[color=#1986BC] What about Jesus is my Lord And The Saviour? [/color]
It means
Jesus is your Lord and Jesus is also the savior.

Make no mistake, This statement does not mean Jesus is your saviour.. It just post point out that Jesus is "the saviour"
Re: Don't Be Biased!!! Can I Become President Without 25% In FCT? by CockAndBullStor: 2:59am On Mar 01, 2023
concho:
This is for Educative purposes and I plead with all who knows and can interpret the acts and constitutions to assist us.

I'm just a trader and would love to get clarity on this

Can I become a president of FRN if I meet other constitutional requirements without making 25% in FCT ?
YES!
Re: Don't Be Biased!!! Can I Become President Without 25% In FCT? by waynetee(m): 3:01am On Mar 01, 2023
Ennoloa:
Don't confuse yourself

FCT is a state that don't elect a Governor... the presiden impose a Minister on them

In democracy you need to be the people choice even tho you are rigging it

You can't have 1% in FCT and impose a Minister for them when they are yet to accept you

That is not democracy

That is why the statement THE FCT and not 25% in 24 States and FCT
But it make sense to not have 25% in other states and impose ministers on them right?
Re: Don't Be Biased!!! Can I Become President Without 25% In FCT? by Ennoloa: 3:07am On Mar 01, 2023
waynetee:
But it make sense to not have 25% in other states and impose ministers on them right?
What are you mean about that lol?

You already told me the difference between this

Have 25% in 24 States out of 36 and FCT
Have 25% in 24 States out of 36 and THE FCT

The first one is FCT is among the 24 states, the 2nd one is FCT should be treated as a special staus

Remind me if INEC don't call Runoff little kid
Re: Don't Be Biased!!! Can I Become President Without 25% In FCT? by Goke7: 3:14am On Mar 01, 2023
PointB:
So why is INEC not conducting Governorship Election for the FCT, if it's a state?
It’s administered by a president through a minister like a state and they have a senator too
Re: Don't Be Biased!!! Can I Become President Without 25% In FCT? by sonnie10: 3:14am On Mar 01, 2023
waynetee:
Including is not there, that would have been a different sentence
The words “AND INCLUDING “ are there. That is the reason I am writing them caps for emphasis.
Re: Don't Be Biased!!! Can I Become President Without 25% In FCT? by waynetee(m): 3:16am On Mar 01, 2023
Ennoloa:
What are you mean about that lol?

You already told me the difference between this

Have 25% in 24 States out of 36 and FCT
Have 25% in 24 States out of 36 and THE FCT

The first one is FCT is among the 24 states, the 2nd one is FCT should be treated as a special staus

Remind me if INEC don't call Runoff little kid
I'm not that heartless so i'm feeling your serial pains too son! But living in delusion of grandeur will not make it any better. Just accept the reality and move on. Bat has already won this election grin
Re: Don't Be Biased!!! Can I Become President Without 25% In FCT? by Monday60655(m): 3:19am On Mar 01, 2023
Getting 25% in FCT is a requirement that must be fulfilled. The Constitution clearly stated that for you to be the president of the FRN, 1. You must have the highest number of votes cast. 2. You must have not less than one-quarter of the votes cast at the election in each of at least two-thirds of all the states in the federation and the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja.
Just take for example, in an examination of six questions, the instruction says answer number one and any other three. If on your own, you leave number one and answer number two to five or even to six. What it means is that you have failed the examination. Just reflect on this. And I hope your question has been answered.
Re: Don't Be Biased!!! Can I Become President Without 25% In FCT? by socialmediaman: 3:54am On Mar 01, 2023
AndroBlaze:

I will copy and paste an answer I had dropped 2 days ago even before Abuja election results came in...but as a trader and a logical human being, do you think somebody should not be president of a whole Nigeria because he cannot get 25% in only one area in Nigeria that had a population that was less than some local governments just a few years back? What sense does it make, and imagine if the FCT was still Lagos as it was before, that means we Southerners could always engineer that no Northerner would ever be president...just think about it. Who would agree to that kind of rule?? What if I win all 36states in Nigeria but cannot get 25% in FCT, what should happen to me?



Actually, like I have said before, even if the candidate does not get 25% in Abuja, if he get 25% in a 25th state, he will win. Abuja is not a state and thats why it is always mentioned by name. It should be called the 25 state rule
It can’t be called the 25th state requirement because additional states can be created today and the 2/3 requirement stands.

The constitution could’ve said

“25% in 2/3 of all the states including the FCT” and then clarified on the next line that FCT is considered as a state for this requirement,

OR

“25% in 2/3 of all the states and 1 additional state or the FCT”

OR

“25% in 2/3 of all the states not including the FCT”

The constitution didn’t say any of those, it rather said

“25% in 2/3 of all the states and the FCT” which means you need 25% in the FCT and 2/3 of all the states.
Re: Don't Be Biased!!! Can I Become President Without 25% In FCT? by updatechange(m): 4:12am On Mar 01, 2023
NothingDoMe:
If he goes up against Atiku it will be very tough. Pray hard.
Remember Atiku polled the lowest among the trios in the FCT.
Unless LP connive with the pdp to deliver Abuja Atiku can’t do it alone yet it will still be a very tight contest cos APC will do anything to achieve the 25%.
Mind you, if APC should manage to win the 25%… hmm igbos will smell rot, because..
1 they have betrayed another southerner to reach the presidency whc will automatically give northerners edge against the south whc is not good for our collective wellbeing and democracy as a southerner.
2 the marginalization they cried about under Buhari will be a child’s play
3 the demographics and political structure of Lagos state will change and the adjustment will make it very difficult for igbos to thrive in the state and will have no choice but leave or live like a 3rd citizen
Re: Don't Be Biased!!! Can I Become President Without 25% In FCT? by waynetee(m): 6:10am On Mar 01, 2023
sonnie10:
The words “AND INCLUDING “ are there. That is the reason I am writing them caps for emphasis.
I hope it is clear to you now.. Seems you only like to learn the hard way grin
Re: Don't Be Biased!!! Can I Become President Without 25% In FCT? by waynetee(m): 6:12am On Mar 01, 2023
Ennoloa:
What are you mean about that lol?

You already told me the difference between this

Have 25% in 24 States out of 36 and FCT
Have 25% in 24 States out of 36 and THE FCT

The first one is FCT is among the 24 states, the 2nd one is FCT should be treated as a special staus

Remind me if INEC don't call Runoff little kid
Are you awake from your slumber now son? cheesy
Re: Don't Be Biased!!! Can I Become President Without 25% In FCT? by AndroBlaze: 7:38am On Mar 01, 2023
socialmediaman:
It can’t be called the 25th state requirement because additional states can be created today and the 2/3 requirement stands.

The constitution could’ve said

“25% in 2/3 of all the states including the FCT” and then clarified on the next line that FCT is considered as a state for this requirement,

OR

“25% in 2/3 of all the states and 1 additional state or the FCT”

OR

“25% in 2/3 of all the states not including the FCT”

The constitution didn’t say any of those, it rather said

“25% in 2/3 of all the states and the FCT” which means you need 25% in the FCT and 2/3 of all the states.

Please read the links, especially the BBC one, most Lawyers agree it was written poorly but the consensus of them understand the meaning and legally justified the way they explained by quoting sections of the constitution that justify their interpretation.

At the end of the day laws are written by men and logic must always be used when interpreting.
Re: Don't Be Biased!!! Can I Become President Without 25% In FCT? by sonnie10: 8:13am On Mar 01, 2023
waynetee:
I hope it is clear to you now.. Seems you only like to learn the hard way grin
Why did you say so? Is there anything bad with learning, even if it has to be the hard way. But life lessons no dey finish anyway.
Re: Don't Be Biased!!! Can I Become President Without 25% In FCT? by Perfectbeing(m): 8:46am On Mar 01, 2023
PointB:
Short answer is NO.



Long answer:
You're now using an AI to think for you?
If someone wins 100% in 36 States and doesn't win 25% in FCT what happens to him?
Re: Don't Be Biased!!! Can I Become President Without 25% In FCT? by Perfectbeing(m): 8:47am On Mar 01, 2023
Bmaster:
this is 'your' interpretation.
U guys are not smart riggers sef,oh how high we have held you urchins in this game before now.

Obi is coming
Atiku has been coming since 2019
Re: Don't Be Biased!!! Can I Become President Without 25% In FCT? by Perfectbeing(m): 8:49am On Mar 01, 2023
gaby:
As the name implies "Federal Capital Territory" a.k.a The Center of Unity.

Being the melting pot of all the States/citizens of the Federation, it only makes sense that anyone who intends to superintend over the country should be able to garner the support of at least 25% of the mini-Nigeria (F.C.T) and in my opinion, this clause was well intended and finely drafted.
So if I get 100% votes in the 36 States and fail to get 25% votes in FCT, I can't be President?
Re: Don't Be Biased!!! Can I Become President Without 25% In FCT? by Afamed: 9:01am On Mar 01, 2023
gaby:
As the name implies "Federal Capital Territory" a.k.a The Center of Unity.

Being the melting pot of all the States/citizens of the Federation, it only makes sense that anyone who intends to superintend over the country should be able to garner the support of at least 25% of the mini-Nigeria (F.C.T) and in my opinion, this clause was well intended and finely drafted.
Does it mean the voters in Abuja have more electoral values than voters in Sokoto state?
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