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Military Rule Is Not The Answer. by Nobody: 5:30am On Mar 19, 2023
Yes, we have seen the result, and APC is still in power. It really really is sad and upsetting and even dare I say wrong. APC lost the election, but won because we were divided.

But for anyone calling for the Army to take over, because you are disappointed that Obi did not win, know this.

Many of our problems as a nation started on January 15 1966. Many of our wounds as a nation started on January 15 1966.

We can all work together and form a formidable opposition that would kick out APC come 2027, or we can take the army route and suffer the same things that we suffered for nearly 40 years....

We better wake up. Army rule did not make us a better nation.
Re: Military Rule Is Not The Answer. by id4sho(m): 5:43am On Mar 19, 2023
Repeat of rigging and lawlessness is worse this time around. See the so called elections sham, uploading of doctored results on BVAS IREV

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Re: Military Rule Is Not The Answer. by Tulsaguy: 5:48am On Mar 19, 2023
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Re: Military Rule Is Not The Answer. by gfelo(m): 6:16am On Mar 19, 2023
This same military rule were the one that put all basic amenities that civilians can not maintain uptill date, common free and fair elections civilians can not conduct, what can civilians get right in this country rather corruption and thuggery, the way forward is military,

If Nigeria must function the way forward is military.

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Re: Military Rule Is Not The Answer. by Nobody: 6:21am On Mar 19, 2023
id4sho:
Repeat of rigging and lawlessness is worse this time around. See the so called elections sham, uploading of doctored results on BVAS IREV

In 1965, and 66, your fathers and grandfathers said the same thing. Rigging too much. They called for the army. The army came on January 15 1966.

By January 15 1970, millions of people were dead.

Better we stick with democracy.

Go and run for office by the way.
Re: Military Rule Is Not The Answer. by Nobody: 6:23am On Mar 19, 2023
gfelo:
This same military rule were the one that put all basic amenities that civilians can not maintain uptill date, common free and fair elections civilians can not conduct, what can civilians get right in this country rather corruption and thuggery, the way forward is military,

If Nigeria must function the way forward is military.

Basic anemities?

NEPA was taking light well well under Army rule...infact the first blackouts happened under Obasanjo millitary.

Roads were bad under army rule.

Housing was an issue. Corrupt Shagari built more houses for the poor than any army rule ever did.

Millitary rule does not work.

Wipe your tears, and work hard to get APC out in 2027. The BAT has won, let's work hard to keep him in office for 4 years, and then kick APC out by a landslide. Not this one where we all cry, meanwhile BAT and Shettima are planning for 24 years of APC rule.
Re: Military Rule Is Not The Answer. by Nobody: 6:23am On Mar 19, 2023
Re: Military Rule Is Not The Answer. by gfelo(m): 6:47am On Mar 19, 2023
Big lie,
All refinary built by the military,
National theatre by military
Major bridge in lagos including 3rd mainland bridge constructed by the military, not only in lagos even in villages military were constructing bridge.

During military regime no insecurity, Politicians brought insecurity, and use their ill gotten money to manipulate the military not to conquer it.

Military create all the 36 state and bring government closer to people, etc.

What is civilian good at is corruption, embezzling of public fund, fabricating and fuelling crises, increase lost of life and property. The menace of civil rule is uncountable.

Kobonaire4:


Basic anemities?

NEPA was taking light well well under Army rule...infact the first blackouts happened under Obasanjo millitary.

Roads were bad under army rule.

Housing was an issue. Corrupt Shagari built more houses for the poor than any army rule ever did.

Millitary rule does not work.

Wipe your tears, and work hard to get APC out in 2027. The BAT has won, let's work hard to keep him in office for 4 years, and then kick APC out by a landslide. Not this one where we all cry, meanwhile BAT and Shettima are planning for 24 years of APC rule.

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Re: Military Rule Is Not The Answer. by Nice2023(m): 6:51am On Mar 19, 2023
Kobonaire4:
Yes, we have seen the result, and APC is still in power. It really really is sad and upsetting and even dare I say wrong. APC lost the election, but won because we were divided.

But for anyone calling for the Army to take over, because you are disappointed that Obi did not win, know this.

Many of our problems as a nation started on January 15 1966. Many of our wounds as a nation started on January 15 1966.

We can all work together and form a formidable opposition that would kick out APC come 2027, or we can take the army route and suffer the same things that we suffered for nearly 40 years....

We better wake up. Army rule did not make us a better nation.



Army rule will bring sanity to Any nation...go and check Egypt, after Sisi took over,the country has been transformed to a modern nation,there is law and order in the country like never before.

Go to Mozambique,after the military took power,the country was on the part of progress now,a civilian took over,go and see the killings happening in the northern Mozambique.

Do u know after the military reigns in Mali,they have created the peoples constitution where corrupt officials would be summarily dealt with if caught and they are likely to face death sentence.

That is the military for u.

We are a corrupt nation...no nation is as bad as Nigeria in corruption. Do u know that about 20 African countries avoid Nigerian Visa passport like plagues not because they hate us as a people,but because we are deadly corrupt in this country.

Yes,go to the UK,when they give a Nigerian a Visa,he or would go with his family which was against the visa policy,now same Nigerians have made them to change same policy because "we dey over do ourselves"


Nigeria is irredeemable.

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Re: Military Rule Is Not The Answer. by Nobody: 6:54am On Mar 19, 2023
gfelo:
Big lie,
All refinary built by the military,

They also crashed under the millitary (thanks to subsidy, also brought by the army which made maintaining the refinereis difficult)

National theatre by military

So? National stadium Abuja was built by civillians.

Major bridge in lagos including 3rd mainland bridge constructed by the military, not only in lagos even in villages military were constructing bridge.

Carter bridge...colonials

Eko bridge...civillians.



During military regime no insecurity, Politicians brought insecurity, and use their ill gotten money to manipulate the military not to conquer it.

cheesy

Omo, this one made me laugh.

Armed robbery, religious crisis, ethnic crisis, etc ...even Maitatsine...happened under army rule

LOL...Anini was active under Army rule, Shina Rambo too


Military create all the 36 state and bring government closer to people, etc.

By fiat, and made it difficult for civilians to do so via the army constitution...

What is civilian good at is corruption, embezzling of public fund, fabricating and fuelling crises, increase lost of life and property. The menace of civil rule is uncountable.


Because instead of people like you to participate in democracy, you are here with me forming armchair critic. Get up and form a party and be the change you want.

Army rule ke?
Re: Military Rule Is Not The Answer. by Nobody: 6:59am On Mar 19, 2023
Nice2023:




Army rule will bring sanity to Any nation...go and check Egypt, after Sisi took over,the country has been transformed to a modern nation,there is law and order in the country like never before.

Yeah and people are no longer free to speak their mind

Go to Mozambique,after the military took power,the country was on the part of progress now,a civilian took over,go and see the killings happening in the northern Mozambique.

Millitary rule in Mozabique was characterised by a long civil war between frelimo and renamo.

Lol.

Do u know after the military reigns in Mali,they have created the peoples constitution where corrupt officials would be summarily dealt with if caught and they are likely to face death sentence.

And when the army took over in Mali things got so disorganized that within months, half the country was under thecontrol of their version of Boko Haram, back in 2014? If not for the French...

That is the military for u.

Bleh.

We are a corrupt nation...no nation is as bad as Nigeria in corruption. Do u know that about 20 African countries avoid Nigerian Visa passport like plagues not because they hate us as a people,but because we are deadly corrupt in this country.

They were doing same when the army was in charge for the same reasons...corruption, oppression, etc.

Yes,go to the UK,when they give a Nigerian a Visa,he or would go with his family which was against the visa policy,now same Nigerians have made them to change same policy because "we dey over do ourselves"


That's on individual Nigerians, not on whether we have army or civillian rule.

If you cannot keep to the terms of your visa...

Besides, India too is having similar issues...and no one has called for their democracy to be terminated..yet.
Nigeria is irredeemable.
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Because you refuse to get up and be the next Macron.
Re: Military Rule Is Not The Answer. by gfelo(m): 7:03am On Mar 19, 2023
Oga i don try, vote doesnt count.

Thats the main reason i do not even go and vote yesterday.
Kobonaire4:


They also crashed under the millitary (thanks to subsidy, also brought by the army which made maintaining the refinereis difficult)



So? National stadium Abuja was built by civillians.



Carter bridge...colonials

Eko bridge...civillians.





cheesy

Omo, this one made me laugh.

Armed robbery, religious crisis, ethnic crisis, etc ...even Maitatsine...happened under army rule

LOL...Anini was active under Army rule, Shina Rambo too




By fiat, and made it difficult for civilians to do so via the army constitution...



Because instead of people like you to participate in democracy, you are here with me forming armchair critic. Get up and form a party and be the change you want.

Army rule ke?
Re: Military Rule Is Not The Answer. by AdaojoTheUrchin: 7:03am On Mar 19, 2023
The military gave us the constitution that we are killing to defend today, so why demonizing the military?
The military handed over to politicians who asked for democracy. Yet these 'quasi-democrats' cannot manage a simple election that other democratic countries organise without rancour and rigging. They claim to be democrats but threaten other Nigerians from freely voting their choice. They kill, they maim, they mutilate results and steal people's votes.

Nigeria's election swallows 300 billion Naira every four years, voting is done on a flimsy paper and fake results are manually mutilated and written in the bedroom of politicians after collation at the polling stations. Are the voters who stand in the rain and sunshine that worthless?

Political thugs are everywhere threatening and killing people who want to vote their choice. How is that different from the Liberian war where people's hands were cut off to prevent them from voting?

The Solution
In the event that judiciary becomes too cowardly to call a spade a spade and end rubber-stampping this open electoral heist that has negated every norms of democratic process, the military must must not hesitate to save the country from being thrown into anarchy by politicians who do not believe in the rights of others in a free democracy.

How will they do this? An interim government should take charge and fix the electoral system to ensure that minimal or zero human interference is allowed in our electoral system.

A 100% electronic voting system is what is needed now. Voters get accredited with their voter's card ONLY ONCE, and then vote in a paperless electronic manner, the votes are recorded and sent directly to the server and seen on the INEC IREV in REAL-TIME.
It has to be transparent, so that losers and winners will agree with the results.

Rigging of elections usually happens between when ballots are counted and when the votes are collated by INEC. That is usually when the results are mutilated or destroyed and the fake ones recorded..That should be stemmed in the tide by e-polling and e-collation and e-transmission of votes. A lot of money will be saved from printing worthless ballot papers that can be snatched anytime by political thugs trying to subvert the process.

Politicians who have vested interests cannot give us a perfect electoral system. When the debate for BVAS and IreV was brought up on the floor of the Senate last year, many sitting politicians afraid of loss of popularity back home, opposed the inclusion of clause 'INEC shall transmit electronically', this has given INEC and politicians the wherewithal to claim 'there is no network, we will transmit the votes when we get to the office', allowing the sustenance of an electoral system that is fraught with heavy irregularities.

Videos abound of INEC presiding officials who have been bribed by politicians telling the voters 'we will not upload until we get to the office', of course we know that once they get to their office (or the sitting rooms of politicians), the results are mutilated or changed outrightly. That's an insult to the Nigerian voters.

No politician will allow such reform to happen, not even Tinubu will let that happen. Only a dispassionate interim military government can institute an electoral reform that will be fair to all and hand it over to Nigerians.
We need to consider this a surgical procedure that will strengthen true democracy in the aftermath.

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Re: Military Rule Is Not The Answer. by Neddstark: 7:04am On Mar 19, 2023
Kobonaire4:
Yes, we have seen the result, and APC is still in power. It really really is sad and upsetting and even dare I say wrong. APC lost the election, but won because we were divided.

But for anyone calling for the Army to take over, because you are disappointed that Obi did not win, know this.

Many of our problems as a nation started on January 15 1966. Many of our wounds as a nation started on January 15 1966.

We can all work together and form a formidable opposition that would kick out APC come 2027, or we can take the army route and suffer the same things that we suffered for nearly 40 years....

We better wake up. Army rule did not make us a better nation.

Pdp was a formidable opposition. Obi leaving destroyed the opposition.
Re: Military Rule Is Not The Answer. by Nobody: 7:04am On Mar 19, 2023
gfelo:
Oga i don try, vote doesnt count.

Thats the main reason i do not even go and vote yesterday.

K.

Don't complain again then.
Re: Military Rule Is Not The Answer. by gfelo(m): 7:06am On Mar 19, 2023
No complain we want military back.
Kobonaire4:


K.

Don't complain again then.
Re: Military Rule Is Not The Answer. by Nobody: 7:07am On Mar 19, 2023
gfelo:
No complain we want military back.

K.
Re: Military Rule Is Not The Answer. by Nobody: 7:08am On Mar 19, 2023
Neddstark:


Pdp was a formidable opposition. Obi leaving destroyed the opposition.

Indeed, that's what I keep telling people.

Most Nigerians were ready to vote out APC. Obi leaving divided the opposition. Kwakwaso made matters worse.(if he Kwakwaso had stayed, there might have been a runoff..with PDP winning.

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Re: Military Rule Is Not The Answer. by Nobody: 7:10am On Mar 19, 2023
I must go now and worship the god

Nice discussing here.

Well, if you want army rule, na your own.
Re: Military Rule Is Not The Answer. by criminalmindz: 7:14am On Mar 19, 2023
I want the military back. Nothing you want tell me. This fraudulent election in 2023 can never stand . It's an insult to our founding fathers, Haerber Maculey, PA Awolowo, Belewa. Etc. Dear military please come back . Arrest Tinubu , Wike and Buhari . And short man devil in kaduna

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Re: Military Rule Is Not The Answer. by Invictuse: 7:17am On Mar 19, 2023
Wailing n wailing of different proportion


gfelo:
This same military rule were the one that put all basic amenities that civilians can not maintain uptill date, common free and fair elections civilians can not conduct, what can civilians get right in this country rather corruption and thuggery, the way forward is military,

If Nigeria must function the way forward is military.
Re: Military Rule Is Not The Answer. by Nobody: 7:19am On Mar 19, 2023
criminalmindz:
I want the military back. Nothing you want tell me. This fraudulent election in 2023 can never stand . It's an insult to our founding fathers, Haerber Maculey, PA Awolowo, Belewa. Etc. Dear military please come back . Arrest Tinubu , Wike and Buhari . And short man devil in kaduna

Because your candidate lost.

Okay, if Obi won, would you have tolerated APC urchins calling for his arrest because he rigged to win?

Army rule will make you beg for a tinubu civillian government. With tears. We've been through this before.

(And yes, I am no APC supporter, and Tinubu is not my choice of leader, and if it came to a runoff between him and Obi , Obi would have been my choice).
Re: Military Rule Is Not The Answer. by Neddstark: 7:28am On Mar 19, 2023
Kobonaire4:


Indeed, that's what I keep telling people.

Most Nigerians were ready to vote out APC. Obi leaving divided the opposition. Kwakwaso made matters worse.(if he Kwakwaso had stayed, there might have been a runoff..with PDP winning.

That's why political commentators are saying Obi indirectly worked for Tinubu

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Re: Military Rule Is Not The Answer. by criminalmindz: 8:03am On Mar 19, 2023
Kobonaire4:


Because your candidate lost.

Okay, if Obi won, would you have tolerated APC urchins calling for his arrest because he rigged to win?

Army rule will make you beg for a tinubu civillian government. With tears. We've been through this before.

(And yes, I am no APC supporter, and Tinubu is not my choice of leader, and if it came to a runoff between him and Obi , Obi would have been my choice).


The moment you speak the truth . You re an obi supporters. Mumu yoruba Muslim. I didn't vote Obi.
Re: Military Rule Is Not The Answer. by Nobody: 8:40am On Mar 19, 2023
criminalmindz:


The moment you speak the truth . You re an obi supporters. Mumu yoruba Muslim. I didn't vote Obi.

And the moment you are called out you called me a Yoruba Muslim. Which i am.not.

I am just as upset about this political system. But it won't make me want army rule as a solution.

Stop crying. Work within the system

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