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Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 7:19pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
FxMasterz:1. Who is this person? 2. Which archeologists discovered Sodom and Gomorrah? 1 Like |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 7:20pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
FxMasterz:Oh your sky daddy. Well, that's interesting. I would have believed you if you can prove that he exists in the first place, but you can't. So your point goes up in smoke 1 Like |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by LordReed(m): 7:20pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
FxMasterz: FxMasterz: Oga just make it make sense. You can attempt to tap dance your way around the stern facts but facts don't care about your stories. The facts destroy your arguments thoroughly so you refuse to examine them instead you cling to stories. Bwahahahahaha! 2 Likes |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 7:21pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
FxMasterz:Where did he write something? |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 7:22pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
FxMasterz:Reality is what anyone can see and attest to its existence. Your daddy didn't write nothing 1 Like |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by LordReed(m): 7:22pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
jaephoenix: LoLz. When I asked him to prove his so called Witness he declined. Bwahahahahaha! |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 7:23pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
FxMasterz:Can tou prove the red wicked unicorn exists? |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 7:24pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
FxMasterz:Where? Oh, I forgot in your mind. Same shit psychotics tells me 1 Like |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 7:24pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
FxMasterz:Dead. Your point? |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by FxMasterz: 7:31pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
jaephoenix:They're not just dead people but dead nations. Are you looking for testifiers among dead nations? |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by FxMasterz: 7:33pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
jaephoenix:There's a general opinion that God exists. You're one of the negligible few who have a contrary opinion. The onus lies on you to prove to us that we are wrong. |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by FxMasterz: 7:35pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
jaephoenix:Physical reality is different from spiritually reality. I have spiritual reality as well as physical reality. You have none. |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by FxMasterz: 7:37pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
LordReed:This is absolutely empty. Nothing in reference to the main discourse here. Just a defensive rant. |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 7:39pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
FxMasterz:1. Did you even read my link? If you did, you'd have seen where the bible copied its flood story. And not just that, it also copied the concept of creation,jesus crucifixion, virgin birth etc. How do I know the bible copied? Because those Epic of Gilgamesh scrolls(specifically the Mesopotamian flood) predates the bible. Many other religions copied too. 2. And if you have been reading my posts, you'd have seen where I said some events or phenomena that predated the bible like Pyramids etc have been found and dated. These are relative dates of some civilizations No religious texts or myths are trustworthy enough for considering as historical facts. Here are some basic time estimates that would explain the span of civilization. [b]2000 years ago: Bible was written 2650 years ago: Greeks & Romans adopted the Semitic Phoenician alphabet and started writing 3000 years ago: Old testament was written 4000 years ago: Hieroglyph writing and the Luwian / Hittite civilizations in current Turkiye 4500 years ago: Hieroglyph writing in Egypt, leading to Semitic alphabets and eventually to the current Latin alphabet we all use. 5000 years ago: Chinese, Indian, Egyptian civilizations started 5000 years ago: First transport wheels, laws, taxes, soap, glass (Mesopotamia) 5300 years ago: Stone Age ends, Bronze Age starts (based on Levant) 5500 years ago: Horse domestication started in Kazakhstan 5500 years ago: FIRST WRITING (cuneiform) & MATHS (arithmetic, algebra, geometry) generated in Mesopotamia, led to serious architecture like the Pyramids (Egypt) & Ur Ziggurat (Iraq), Astronomy & Calendar (Babylonians) 6000 years ago: The year Bible says the humanity was born. 6000 years ago: First sailing boats by Egyptians, made of reeds 6500 years ago: Sumerian civilization started in Mesopotamia 7000 years ago: Potter’s wheel (Mesopotamia) 7500 years ago: Settlements of Istanbul, Mersin, İzmir, Konya, Adana (Turkiye), Aleppo (Syria), Nineveh (Iraq) 9000 years ago: First settlements in Alashiya (Cyprus), Jeitun (Turkmenistan) and Faiyum (Egypt) 10,000 years: First agriculture & animal farming in Mesopotamia 11,000 years: Settlements in Jericho (Palestine) with the oldest known protective walls, and in Jbeil (Byblos, Lebanon) 12,000 years: Göbeklitepe settlements (Turkiye) 15,000 years: Asians discovered America; horses discovered Asia, and later went extinct in America 20,000 years: Oldest pottery (China) 30,000 years: Oldest ceramic figurine (Czechia) 32,500 years: Oldest known star chart 40,000 years: Oldest figurine, made of mammoth ivory (Germany) 45,000 years: Earliest human remains in Europe (Bulgaria) 200.000 years: The earliest known date Homo Sapiens left Africa 300,000 years: Genetic evidence for early Homo sapiens admixture to Neanderthals in todays Turkiye 300,000 years: Oldest known remains of anatomically modern humans (Morocco) 2,000,000 years: Earliest hand made stone tools found.[/b] https://moreesemadu.com/ancient-texts-before-the-bible/ https://historycollection.com/20-biblical-traditions-heavily-influenced-by-other-ancient-cultures/ 3. Noah is present in all the Abrahamic religions eg christianity, judaism and Islam. And they copied each other. It also appears in other cultures but different ancestors |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 7:41pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
[quote author=FxMasterz post=121896160][/quote] Floods happened in many cultures. Not one, not two. Many floods. If they ask you how many floods have happened in Nigeria, can you count them? Besides, the flood in the bible was supposed to be global, unlike those other cultural myths and histories |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 7:43pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
FxMasterz:All those accounts you were talking about were local floods. Besides, how can they be talking about they same flood as in the bible if they supposedly died in that flood? 1 Like |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by LordReed(m): 7:44pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
FxMasterz: Bwahahahahahaha! Hypocrite, when you made this response: FxMasterz:Was it not a defensive piece of nonsense. LMFAO! You cannot argue the facts so just hang your head in shame. 1 Like |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 7:44pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
FxMasterz:He who alleges must prove 1 Like |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 7:47pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
FxMasterz:Those cultures copied from the Mesopotamian flood which predated the Bible(and Moses) 1 Like |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 7:50pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
FxMasterz:Lies. I scoured the internet for all the possible meanings of Omoluabi and it means the[i] child begotten by the chief of iwa. [/i] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omoluwabi |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 7:52pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
FxMasterz:Lies. Dinosaurs, pyramids etc predated your buybull Enough of these lies, already 1 Like |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 8:06pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
FxMasterz: It looks like you don't read your links through before hurriedly dumping them here, thinking we're your regular dumb theists. Just like your last link you dropped about Moses and it turned out to prove you wrong. If you had read through this link, you wouldn't have dumped it here. I read this years ago when I was researching Noah. Look at this… According to a controversial theory proposed by two Columbia University scientists, there really was one in the Black Sea region. They believe that the now-salty Black Sea was once an isolated freshwater lake surrounded by farmland, until it was flooded by an enormous wall of water from the rising Mediterranean Sea. The force of the water was two hundred times that of Niagara Falls, sweeping away everything in its path. Fascinated by the idea, Ballard and his team decided to investigate. "We went in there to look for the flood," he said. "Not just a slow moving, advancing rise of sea level, but a really big flood that then stayed... The land that went under stayed under." Four hundred feet below the surface, they unearthed an ancient shoreline, proof to Ballard that a catastrophic event did happen in the Black Sea. By carbon dating shells found along the shoreline, Ballard said he believes they have established a timeline for that catastrophic event, which he estimates happened around 5,000 BC. Some experts believe this was around the time when Noah's flood could have occurred. "It probably was a bad day," Ballard said. "At some magic moment, it broke through and flooded this place violently, and a lot of real estate, 150,000 square kilometers of land, went under." The theory goes on to suggest that the story of this traumatic event, seared into the collective memory of the survivors, was passed down from generation to generation and eventually inspired the biblical account of Noah. Noah is described in the Bible as a family man, a father of three, who is about to celebrate his 600th birthday. "In the early chapters of Genesis, people live 800 years, 700 years, 900 years," said Rabbi Burt Visotzky, a professor of Talmud and Rabbinics at the Jewish Theological Seminary in New York. "Those are mythic numbers, those are way too big. We don't quite know what to do with that. So sometimes those large numbers, I think, also serve to reinforce the mystery of the text." Some of the details of the Noah story seem mythical, so many biblical scholars believe the story of Noah and the Ark was inspired by the legendary flood stories of nearby Mesopotamia, in particular "The Epic of Gilgamesh." These ancient narratives were already being passed down from one generation to the next, centuries before Noah appeared in the Bible. "The earlier Mesopotamian stories are very similar where the gods are sending a flood to wipe out humans," said biblical archaeologist Eric Cline. "There's one man they choose to survive To be continued… 1 Like |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 8:09pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
Continuation… He builds a boat and brings on animals and lands on a mountain and lives happily ever after? I would argue that it's the same story." Catastrophic events of this kind are not unique to the Bible. Some contemporary examples include the 2004 tsunami that wiped out villages on the coasts of 11 countries surrounding the Indian Ocean. There was also Hurricane Katrina, described as the worst hurricane in United States history. Scholars aren't sure if the biblical flood was larger or smaller than these modern day disasters, but they do think the experiences of people in ancient times were similar to our own. "If you witness a terrible natural disaster, yes, you want a scientific explanation why this has happened," said Karen Armstrong, author of "A History of God." "But you also need to something that will help you to assuage your grief and anguish and rage. And it is here that myth helps us through that." Regardless of whether the details of the Noah story are historically accurate, Armstrong believes this story and all the Biblical stories are telling us "about our predicament in the world now." Back in the Black Sea, Ballard said he is aware that not everyone agrees with his conclusions about the time and size of the flood, but he's confident he's on the path to finding something from the biblical period. "We started finding structures that looked like they were man-made structures," Ballard said. "That's where we are focusing our attention right now." At first Ballard's team found piles of ancient pottery, but then they made an even more important discovery. Last year, Ballard discovered a vessel and one of its crew members in the Black Sea. "That is a perfectly preserved ancient shipwreck in all its wood, looks like a lumber yard," he said. "But if you look closely, you will see the femur bone and actually a molar." The shipwreck was in surprisingly good condition, preserved because the Black Sea has almost no oxygen in it, which slows down the process of decay, but it does not date back as far as the story of Noah. "The oldest shipwreck that we have discovered so far of that area is around 500 BC, classical period," Ballard said. "But the question is you just keep searching. It's a matter of statistics." Still, Ballard said the find gives him hope that he will discover something older "because there, in fact, the deep sea is the largest museum on Earth," he said. Ballard does not think he will ever find Noah's Ark, but he does think he may find evidence of a people whose entire world was washed away about 7,000 years ago. He and his team said they plan to return to Turkey next summer. |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 8:13pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
FxMasterz:Lol, they said it was a local flood. Don't worry, I highlighted the excerpts that described it as local in case you have reading disabilities. Do well to read my post this time |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 8:16pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
FxMasterz:All that article was talking about Ballard and his team trying to see if Noah's Ark or the global flood happened. If you had read through to the end, you'd have seen where he confessed his failure. Go on, read. Its good for your mental growth 1 Like |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 8:19pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
FxMasterz:So did this researcher find what he was looking for? |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 8:21pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
FxMasterz:Can you copy paste the passage that alludes to that, sir? |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 8:24pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
FxMasterz:Survivors? I thought nobody survived the flood, except Noah and his crew? Lol |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 8:26pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
FxMasterz:The years is what is used to date floods |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 8:28pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
FxMasterz:Have you heard of news sensationalism? Have you clicked on a link based on its topic and found nothing or nothing much related to it? Its just to draw traffic. Nothing in that post showed evidence of Noah Ark or flood |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 8:30pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
FxMasterz:No. Again your point? You brought the point about those testifiers, not me |
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