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Re: What Did Obedients Achieve? by Vinnie2000(m): 8:36am On Mar 21, 2023
Legitisreal:
we even had more gains than this in 2015 when a sitting government was successfully removed despite this one carried more minority noise

You gave room for new looters many of which came by try your luck and are not prepared.

PDP and APC politicians have been begging since 1900, ever wonder why they have been paying Nigerians money for votes


You Pple came ridiculous Comparisons. undecided

APC was formed by Ex-PDP strongmen like Tambuwal, El-Rufai, Atiku,Amaechi,Audu Ogbeh, etc
And joined with ACN's Tinubu of South West. 😕
Why won't they be able to Remove Jonathan and PDP?

But How Many Politicians worked with Peter Obi?😏

U Guys should throw out ur Bias/Sentiments!

Labour Party has DONE WELL! smiley

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Re: What Did Obedients Achieve? by Strafudeen: 8:38am On Mar 21, 2023
Fren232:


I know people that would have voted for Obi, but hated his supporters, and they will never accept that their style is not working.
Campaign is to win voters not chase people away

But using machetes on people going to vote, snatching ballot papers, altering result sheets is a good style abi? Up APC grin

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Re: What Did Obedients Achieve? by Vinnie2000(m): 8:43am On Mar 21, 2023
Fren232:


APGA is a pro eastern party, Labour is more national. Mimiko won 2 terms under Labour b more than 10 years ago. LP has some federal seats before this election cycle.
There was a Labour party before Obi

From 2019 till 2022, who knew Anything about LP?

Peter Obi simply made Labour Party, popular and acceptable all over Nigeria.

Issue is Politicis in Nigeria demands FINANCIAL MUSCLES.
And some LP candidates were not that Bouyant like their APC and PDP opponents, hence some Lost. sad

But Labour Party still Impressed! 🙂

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Re: What Did Obedients Achieve? by Fren232: 8:51am On Mar 21, 2023
Vinnie2000:


You Pple came ridiculous Comparisons. undecided

APC was formed by Ex-PDP strongmen like Tambuwal, El-Rufai, Atiku,Amaechi,Audu Ogbeh, etc
And joined with ACN's Tinubu of South West. 😕
Why won't they be able to Remove Jonathan and PDP?

But How Many Politicians worked with Peter Obi?😏

U Guys should throw out ur Bias/Sentiments!

Labour Party has DONE WELL! smiley

I think our disagreement on this issue stems from difference in expectations. I thought that APC will bleed. I expected BAT to win, but maybe lose one of the houses or APC perform poorly at governorship election. But comparing before and after, it seems APC is stronger, hence my disappointment

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Re: What Did Obedients Achieve? by Fren232: 8:52am On Mar 21, 2023
Vinnie2000:


From 2019 till 2022, who knew Anything about LP?

Peter Obi simply made Labour Party, popular and acceptable all over Nigeria.

Issue is Politicis in Nigeria demands FINANCIAL MUSCLES.
And some LP candidates were not that Bouyant like their APC and PDP opponents, hence some Lost. sad

But Labour Party still Impressed! 🙂


Labour Party did very well for themselves, but obedients did not achieve any of their goals

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Re: What Did Obedients Achieve? by jayworld15(m): 9:34am On Mar 21, 2023
Fren232:
Since election is now over, I did of comparison of before and after to see what obedients achieved.
Senate before election:
Apc: 59 seats
Pdp: 40
Apga:1
LP:1
NNPP:1
After election:
Apc:: 57 (possibly 60 after supplementary elections)
Pdp: 28
LP: 7

HOR before elections:
Apc: 197
Pdp: 124
NNPP: 10
Apga:5
LP: 8

After elections
APC: 162 (might get to 180)
Pdp: 102
Lp: 34

Governoship before election:
Apc21, pdp: 14, LP:1
After elections:
Seems APC will have more seats.

Despite all the "soro-soke generation" "they messed with the wrong generation" noise APC barely felt the impact of obedients. Revolutions are supposed to takeout the ruling party not the opposition, but pdp felt the movement more than APC.
Looks like APC is now stronger than before because their main opposition is weaker.
Either APC did not fail as we all assumed they did or obedients had a terrible campaign.
I hope for another youth movement in 2027, but better channelled. Bullying and abusing does not win votes.



Before election, Labour Party only produced a two time governor in Mimiko of Ondo State. At the federal level, they had none. I hope you are not counting Mimiko's senatorial win under ZENITH LABOUR PARTY as that of Labour.
Re: What Did Obedients Achieve? by Fren232: 9:41am On Mar 21, 2023
jayworld15:



Before election, Labour Party only produced a two time governor in Mimiko of Ondo State. At the federal level, they had none. I hope you are not counting Mimiko's senatorial win under ZENITH LABOUR PARTY as that of Labour.

I will crosscheck and edit it. I pulled the data online.
Thanks for that
Re: What Did Obedients Achieve? by jumobi1(m): 9:52am On Mar 21, 2023
Fren232:


I know people that would have voted for Obi, but hated his supporters, and they will never accept that their style is not working.
Campaign is to win voters not chase people away

If Tinubu turns out to be great then it’s a win for Nigeria. If he doesn’t turn out great, then they essentially cut their noses to spite their faces.
Re: What Did Obedients Achieve? by Ikpaitid: 9:53am On Mar 21, 2023
Vinnie2000:


*Gave Room for Participation of Average Nigerians in Politics.
*Made PDP and APC Politicians to Beg, kneel and Cry for votes. 😄
*Made Politicians like Sanwo-Olu to Start increasing Salary every 2Months!😏


Will Add More.....

Re: What Did Obedients Achieve? by Ikpaitid: 9:53am On Mar 21, 2023
Made Yoruba people almost kick out all Igbos from Yorubaland. Don't forget that one.
Those who know politics know that Peter Gringory Obi set the Igbos back by at least 24 years politically.

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Re: What Did Obedients Achieve? by jayworld15(m): 9:54am On Mar 21, 2023
Fren232:


APGA is a pro eastern party, Labour is more national. Mimiko won 2 terms under Labour b more than 10 years ago. LP has some federal seats before this election cycle.
There was a Labour party before Obi


Go and so your homework well. LP had no federal seat before this election. I'd wait till you bring your proof.
Re: What Did Obedients Achieve? by jayworld15(m): 9:55am On Mar 21, 2023
Fren232:


I will crosscheck and edit it. I pulled the data online.
Thanks for that


No problem, bro. They tried by becoming a third force in both National Houses. At least, it's an inroad for the party which is good for democracy.
Re: What Did Obedients Achieve? by jumobi1(m): 10:00am On Mar 21, 2023
jayworld15:



Before election, Labour Party only produced a two time governor in Mimiko of Ondo State. At the federal level, they had none. I hope you are not counting Mimiko's senatorial win under ZENITH LABOUR PARTY as that of Labour.

Before election, an Imo State senator defected to LP. He won his reelection as well.
Re: What Did Obedients Achieve? by jayworld15(m): 10:03am On Mar 21, 2023
jumobi1:


Before election, an Imo State senator defected to LP. He won his reelection as well.


Which year's election?
Re: What Did Obedients Achieve? by flokii: 10:07am On Mar 21, 2023
They achieved o... Atleast most Yorubas that were forming woke back then now knows the evil agenda Igbos have on Lagos.

It won't be soldiers at Lekki next time, it's Yoruba youths that would be facing the arsonists in a gun duel. There won't ever be a repeat of such massive deception like LekkiLies in Lagos anyways.

Oju ti la.. everyone must go to their home states henceforth to protest.
Re: What Did Obedients Achieve? by jumobi1(m): 10:08am On Mar 21, 2023
jayworld15:



Which year's election?

Senator Onyewuchi representing Imo East just won his reelection bid.
Re: What Did Obedients Achieve? by jumobi1(m): 10:10am On Mar 21, 2023
flokii:
They achieved o... Atleast most Yorubas that were forming woke back then now knows the evil agenda Igbos have on Lagos.

It won't be soldiers at Lekki next time, it's Yoruba youths that would be facing the arsonists in a gun duel. There won't ever be a repeat of such massive deception like LekkiLies in Lagos anyways.

Oju ti la.. everyone must go to their home states henceforth to protest.

Calm down. You’re being used as a tool to protect an interest that isn’t yours.
Re: What Did Obedients Achieve? by Fren232: 10:13am On Mar 21, 2023
jayworld15:



Go and so your homework well. LP had no federal seat before this election. I'd wait till you bring your proof.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_of_Nigeria

LP does have a Senator, but seems he defected to LP before election. So my point stands. But he didn't win under LP and he only followed the tide
Re: What Did Obedients Achieve? by jayworld15(m): 10:15am On Mar 21, 2023
Fren232:


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_of_Nigeria

LP does have a Senator, but seems he defected to LP before election. So my point stands. But he didn't win under LP and he only followed the tide


Check well, he defected last year June. No one won under Labour party before this election except Mimiko
Re: What Did Obedients Achieve? by Fren232: 10:16am On Mar 21, 2023
jayworld15:



Go and so your homework well. LP had no federal seat before this election. I'd wait till you bring your proof.

https://von.gov.ng/2023-imo-pdp-senator-joins-labour-party/

He defected to LP in June 2022
Re: What Did Obedients Achieve? by Fren232: 10:17am On Mar 21, 2023
jayworld15:



Check well, he defected last year June. No one won under Labour party before this election except Mimiko

Yes, you are right. But that does not negate my point. I only listed positions held before 2023 elections by each party
Re: What Did Obedients Achieve? by jayworld15(m): 10:19am On Mar 21, 2023
jumobi1:


Before election, an Imo State senator defected to LP. He won his reelection as well.


You're considered inconsequential if no one could win under your party nationwide (par Mimiko). Labour was an inconsequential party who has no person winning under its flag until 2023. By so, it became a party with the third most membership in both houses. We cannot say the party performed woefully with those win from non-winning party before the election. So, the party performed well with a rating of 5/10
Re: What Did Obedients Achieve? by jayworld15(m): 10:21am On Mar 21, 2023
Fren232:


Yes, you are right. But that does not negate my point. I only listed positions held before 2023 elections by each party


It does not negate your point. At the same time, it was a failed party, inconsequential because no one could win under its umbrella before this election (except Mimiko).
Re: What Did Obedients Achieve? by stanbright(m): 10:23am On Mar 21, 2023
Ikpaitid:
Made Yoruba people almost kick out all Igbos from Yorubaland. Don't forget that one.
Those who know politics know that Peter Gringory Obi set the Igbos back by at least 24 years politically.
All this talk
But do politics bring money to the average Igbo man?
Igbos haven’t ruled for years now,but they aren’t poor.mr man go and hustle Abi do the your Yoruba politicians pay you salary?
Re: What Did Obedients Achieve? by jayworld15(m): 10:24am On Mar 21, 2023
jumobi1:


Senator Onyewuchi representing Imo East just won his reelection bid.


The first you talked about was under PDP. It's only this re-election LP could say it's member one. You can go read their charter.
Re: What Did Obedients Achieve? by DMerciful(m): 10:26am On Mar 21, 2023
And those people think if they had voted Obi they'd have been doing him a favor?
Fren232:


I know people that would have voted for Obi, but hated his supporters, and they will never accept that their style is not working.
Campaign is to win voters not chase people away
Re: What Did Obedients Achieve? by Fren232: 10:27am On Mar 21, 2023
jayworld15:



It does not negate your point. At the same time, it was a failed party, inconsequential because no one could win under its umbrella before this election (except Mimiko).

I specifically said Obedients and nor LP.
Lp achieved a lot. But obedients is a movement different from the party. If obi had defected to SDP, then Obidients would have voted for SDP candidates. But the Obedient movement didn't achieve any of its goals, APC is stronger at federal and state levels, Sanwo Olu won, Desmond Elliot won. Everyone Obedients set to vote out won. And APC is stronger than is the point of my writeup

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Re: What Did Obedients Achieve? by highchief1: 10:31am On Mar 21, 2023
Fren232:


I know people that would have voted for Obi, but hated his supporters, and they will never accept that their style is not working.
Campaign is to win voters not chase people away
I love Obi but hate obidients.I prayed for his failure because obidients would have turned Nigeria to Iran.

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Re: What Did Obedients Achieve? by Fren232: 10:38am On Mar 21, 2023
DMerciful:
And those people think if they had voted Obi they'd have been doing him a favor?

No, and that's why we need to discuss the attitude of obidients.
Politics is a game of number, you don't keep turning people off and think you can win. Who will be left to vote for your candidate

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Re: What Did Obedients Achieve? by jumobi1(m): 10:44am On Mar 21, 2023
jayworld15:



The first you talked about was under PDP. It's only this re-election LP could say it's member one. You can go read their charter.

The OP didn’t state that the Senator won under LP. The OP stated that LP had a serving Senator pre 2023 election and that is true.
Anyways overall, LP is good for our democracy. Elected servants shouldn’t be too comfortable.
Re: What Did Obedients Achieve? by jumobi1(m): 10:48am On Mar 21, 2023
highchief1:
I love Obi but hate obidients.I prayed for his failure because obidients would have turned Nigeria to Iran.

The Obidients you hate would not have formed the government though. You simply preferred other candidates and that’s absolutely fine. Let’s hope Nigeria is the true winner of this election.
Re: What Did Obedients Achieve? by jumobi1(m): 10:57am On Mar 21, 2023
Fren232:


I specifically said Obedients and nor LP.
Lp achieved a lot. But obedients is a movement different from the party. If obi had defected to SDP, then Obidients would have voted for SDP candidates. But the Obedient movement didn't achieve any of its goals, APC is stronger at federal and state levels, Sanwo Olu won, Desmond Elliot won. Everyone Obedients set to vote out won. And APC is stronger than is the point of my writeup

Good point but the battle isn’t over. At least it shouldn’t be. LP/Obidients should keep pushing if they mean well. It took a lot for APC to dethrone PDP.

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