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Re: Why The Law Made It Compulsory For A 25% In The FCT by Jokay07(m): 10:54pm On Mar 26, 2023
MikeofAfrica:


You are right that English language was single out because it is the basis of all tertiary learning.

Similarly, FCT was single out because it is the Capital of the Federation.

As the Capital, FCT does not have a Governor. Hence the President act as the Governor of FCT and appoints a minister that administer the affairs of FCT on his behalf.

Hence if a presidential candidate does not get 25% of the votes of FCT, he is not qualify to act as the Governor of FCT . Remember that the Constitution makes it mandatory that a Governor-elect must have 25% in 2/3 of the LGs.

Hence if a presidential candidate that got the highest number of votes fails to meet the requirement of acting as Governor of FCT, he has not meet the Constitutional requirement of being a president elect.

Tinubu is presently like a student who cheated in 8 examination papers hence got the highest grades in those subjects but fortunately was not allowed to cheat in English language hence he scored F9 in English.

The F9 in English is a Nemesis that has render all his cheatings in vain.


It's highly illusional bringing unrelated examples such as yours; to interpret Section 134(2) of the constitutions.



Interpretation of the constitution is not a straightforward as people think.
However, I am not here to argue in favour or against any interpretation but it must be noted that there's already judicial precedent on this same issue.

Firstly,
The Court of Appeal in Okoyode v FCDA4.
The Court rule established FCT as a state.

Secondly
There's another SUPREME COURT ruling declaring FCT as a state. https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2020/09/08/fct-abuja-court-with-jurisdiction-on-matters-involving-its-agencies/

Although there's no clear interpretation as to whether FCT is a must

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Re: Why The Law Made It Compulsory For A 25% In The FCT by Omowale2023(m): 11:21pm On Mar 26, 2023
MikeofAfrica:


You are right that English language was single out because it is the basis of all tertiary learning.

Similarly, FCT was single out because it is the Capital of the Federation.

As the Capital, FCT does not have a Governor. Hence the President act as the Governor of FCT and appoints a minister that administer the affairs of FCT on his behalf.

Hence if a presidential candidate does not get 25% of the votes of FCT, he is not qualify to act as the Governor of FCT . Remember that the Constitution makes it mandatory that a Governor-elect must have 25% in 2/3 of the LGs.

Hence if a presidential candidate that got the highest number of votes fails to meet the requirement of acting as Governor of FCT, he has not meet the Constitutional requirement of being a president elect.

Tinubu is presently like a student who cheated in 8 examination papers hence got the highest grades in those subjects but fortunately was not allowed to cheat in English language hence he scored F9 in English.

The F9 in English is a Nemesis that has render all his cheatings in vain.
Very true.
But the problem is Tinubu got 25% in 4 of the 6 lgas. And yet still got 20% overall. Also, he didn't get the popularity votes from Abuja, all the presidents got popularity votes from abuja expect Gej and Atiku.
In GEJ's case, he said he won't go to tribunal.
In Atiku's case in 2019, Atiku didn't put it in one of his PRAYERS in his petition at that time. Now I understand why obi said he will go to court. He has a very strong case.

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Re: Why The Law Made It Compulsory For A 25% In The FCT by Terenceike(m): 11:39pm On Mar 26, 2023
IgOga:


Where does the constitution say the President is the governor of the FCT? grin

Anyways if na there you put your hope......supreme court will disappoint you o grin

Section 299 tells you the president is the governor of FCT
Re: Why The Law Made It Compulsory For A 25% In The FCT by NothingDoMe: 12:44am On Mar 27, 2023
IgOga:


Where does the constitution say the President is the governor of the FCT? grin

Anyways if na there you put your hope......supreme court will disappoint you o grin
section 299
Re: Why The Law Made It Compulsory For A 25% In The FCT by NothingDoMe: 12:47am On Mar 27, 2023
fayomim:


Wrong wrong wrong

How do you expect them to put it...do you expect the constitution to just say 25% in all the states alone? The constitution only see Abuja as the FCT and not a state, that is why the and is added to indicate that votes from FCT will also be counted
Then the constitution should have simply said 37 states. For it to say 36 states means it doesn't regard the FCT as a state in this case.

It's pretty straightforward.

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Re: Why The Law Made It Compulsory For A 25% In The FCT by samunaka: 2:39am On Mar 27, 2023
uba1991:
I know that the CJN will look for technicalities to dismiss the case in favor of tinubu. Anybody that is closer to him should advice him not to try rubbish. Nigeria is calm now because of that Court case, anything that will stop us from getting justice will be stood against no matter what.

You are a fool, go out and campaign for votes to win election you refused, you you were going from church to church spreading hatred against the Muslim Muslim ticket, now have lost the election you want to become president through the back door, you will continue to labour in vain
Re: Why The Law Made It Compulsory For A 25% In The FCT by Difrent: 2:54am On Mar 27, 2023
LocalStandard1:

You have sold your sense and reason to your god, see here.....
https://www.nairaland.com/7628155/deification-asiwaju-tinubu-south-west

but some of us are still very much in tone with reality and common sense. It is not only the Igbos that still have that cause I am clearly not one.

Na so
ONLY IGBOS are in touch with reality and common sense
But whats common sense in knowing how to chose "competent" President but chose disasters as governors.
Oversense na im dey kill igbos
While erosion crime and poverty is making life miseable for igbos in the east its taking over Lagos that more important to the average igboman than making any state in the east envy of all.
But then if elu Pee had won the election would have beem free and fair.
Elu Pee will be so battered after their court case they will never recover from it....for days Elu pee was screaming election not free...cancel the election bla bla bla only for the same shameless party to collect certificate of return for legislators that were declared for it..... smart politician, knowing they WONT win at the tribunal they dont want to lose out completely.....at least 6 senators is better that nothing.
Like Adewole said.... "some people think election tribunal is continuation of campaign"
Re: Why The Law Made It Compulsory For A 25% In The FCT by pquaver(m): 2:59am On Mar 27, 2023
uba1991:
I know that the CJN will look for technicalities to dismiss the case in favor of tinubu. Anybody that is closer to him should advice him not to try rubbish. Nigeria is calm now because of that Court case, anything that will stop us from getting justice will be stood against no matter what.

Are you threatening the judiciary? The must rule in your favor ir else? We wait your actions then. You will know men voted Tinubu.. Nobe only lp vote

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Re: Why The Law Made It Compulsory For A 25% In The FCT by pquaver(m): 3:01am On Mar 27, 2023
MikeofAfrica:


According to WAEC, you need to have credits 8n at least 4 Subjects and English language before gaining admission to any University.

Hence why did you not ask WAEC if English language has two heads?

Dont be a dunce English is a subject.. Why not chamge that English to Sport and see if the meaning doesn't change.. Sports is not a subject but a school can decide to govr it special status to subject iin the curriculum and grade it..
Re: Why The Law Made It Compulsory For A 25% In The FCT by Injera(f): 3:19am On Mar 27, 2023
uba1991:
I know that the CJN will look for technicalities to dismiss the case in favor of tinubu. Anybody that is closer to him should advice him not to try rubbish. Nigeria is calm now because of that Court case, anything that will stop us from getting justice will be stood against no matter what.
Una madness na for se. Ready to die una nor fit try shit for Lagos endsars ruse nor go fit work
Re: Why The Law Made It Compulsory For A 25% In The FCT by pquaver(m): 3:27am On Mar 27, 2023
derealj:


So if it had stopped at 24 states of the federation it won't make sense anymore?

Is FCT not part of the federation. Which other country have you seen adding their capital as part of their nomenclature.?

There was never a reason to add that "and FCT if it was never compulsory to get 25% there.
don't be clever by half. It says states of the federation which is the 36 states.. Fct is a special case that is with when you name the stste you say and the FCT.. What were you thought in school is State and capital Abia to zamfara and then Fct abuja.. Fct always accompany the states s to show it is included to them.. Nigeria has 36 states and the Fct is what you hear everday.. English is about context... The and here signifies inclusion to the states.. Apples and oranges =apples +oranges, peter and paul = peter +paul.. 36 state and the fct = 36 state plus fct.. So the part of the looks like this 25% in at least 2/3 of each (36states of the federstion +Fct)..
Re: Why The Law Made It Compulsory For A 25% In The FCT by wildernessVoice: 3:30am On Mar 27, 2023
IgOga:
grin

Which section says the President is the governor of the FCT?......

What is the job of the FCT minister?

Una don accept say you lost the presidential election now....now na Tinubu is not qualified to run grin meanwhile na Obi join party and became candidate within 30 days grin

Oh FCT people are more important than other Nigerians grin grin grin

Oh Mahmood anouced election at 4am when some of you were sleeping 😁😁😁

So you don't know that a minister is a representative of the President.
FCT doesn't elect minister but appointed by Mr. President just like other Federal Ministries. The President wins FCT during election and appoint a minister to oversee it's affairs on his behalf.
Re: Why The Law Made It Compulsory For A 25% In The FCT by pquaver(m): 3:48am On Mar 27, 2023
NothingDoMe:
Then the constitution should have simply said 37 states. For it to say 36 states means it doesn't regard the FCT as a state in this case.

It's pretty straightforward.

It does nor regards it as a state because it is not a state but the constitution gave it the status of a state..
Re: Why The Law Made It Compulsory For A 25% In The FCT by pquaver(m): 4:21am On Mar 27, 2023
MikeofAfrica:


According to WAEC, you need to have credits 8n at least 4 Subjects and including English language before gaining admission to any University.

Hence why did you not ask WAEC if English language has two heads?
That is what waec says because waec know that English isa subject already. Abuja is not a state but an area given special status.. Lookat it this way.. If waec creates sth new in the curriculum called sport which student have to participate and they say every performance will be evaluated and scored like is with subjects and says the component of the curriculum is now " 12 subjects and sports" then tell you to pass WAEC a student must score 25 % in atleast 2/3 of the 12 Subjects and sports......
The moment a item which is different fron the main thing eg sport is introduced.. It gives a new meaning which only the person conveying the message can explain, that is why the supreme court interpretation is need here.. For example if i tell a kid please inject fertilizer in at least not less that 5 mango and apple trees.. The boy would he be wrong if he does it in 5 mangos and 5 Apple trees? but he wont also be wromg if he did 3 mangos and 2 Apples because my 5 i said could be summation. 5 mangoes and apples which could also be a summation of 3 mangoes and 2 apples.
I think if the constitution meant 25% in Abuja differently it wod have after saying that of the states, saz that of fct if it was not a summation.. Like sayin 3 Apple and 3 Oranges.. 25% im states and 25% in fct. That is more defined.. But really i dont know again joor the thing is confusing.. The English no too balance..

But i think Tinubu having the edge is the 1 section that gives FCT a state status and includes it every time we are talking about states. (Even in school u learn states and fcapital with fct inclusive so why will it be different in election?) That gave rise to 36 States and Fct we use . which is like our normal bread and butter, peter and paul, taye and kehinde or Rice and beans.. It shows togetherness, inclusion, addition everywhere im Nigeria use and colloquial language .. Example So if i go to woman wey dey sell food and tell her abeg madam give me 5 plates of rice and beans... She will definitively give 5 plates of rice mixed woth beans and not 5 plates of rice and 5 plates of beans differently.. So you get my point here.. But lets wait for the supreme interpretation.. I am writing so you see that you obidients also apc have to wsit for the interpretation and which way it goes dont call it rigging it it doesn't favour you..
Re: Why The Law Made It Compulsory For A 25% In The FCT by fayomim: 6:24am On Mar 27, 2023
NothingDoMe:
Then the constitution should have simply said 37 states. For it to say 36 states means it doesn't regard the FCT as a state in this case.

It's pretty straightforward.

Remember when we read our state and capital...have you seen where they mention FCT as a state?

FCT is not regarded as a state that is why we don't have 37 states. FCT votes is just like any other states votes and not regarded as a special votes

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Re: Why The Law Made It Compulsory For A 25% In The FCT by fayomim: 6:27am On Mar 27, 2023
derealj:


So if it had stopped at 24 states of the federation it won't make sense anymore?

Is FCT not part of the federation. Which other country have you seen adding their capital as part of their nomenclature.?

There was never a reason to add that "and FCT if it was never compulsory to get 25% there.

Take for instance FCT wasn't added and the constitution says 25% in 24 states only, that means no election will be done in FCT because FCT wasn't included because it's not a state

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Re: Why The Law Made It Compulsory For A 25% In The FCT by Sannisege: 6:39am On Mar 27, 2023
In Nigeria, there are 37 territories. 36 of them are states, while the 37th territory is the FCT (Abuja). The law simply mentioned 25% votes in 2/3 of the 37 territories, i.e., the 36 states AND the FCT Abuja.
Re: Why The Law Made It Compulsory For A 25% In The FCT by derealj(m): 10:14am On Mar 27, 2023
fayomim:


Take for instance FCT wasn't added and the constitution says 25% in 24 states only, that means no election will be done in FCT because FCT wasn't included because it's not a state

But they didn't end at 24 states, they said 24 states of the federation. Try and read to understand.

Abuja is part of the federation.
Re: Why The Law Made It Compulsory For A 25% In The FCT by uba1991: 10:14am On Mar 27, 2023
pquaver:


Are you threatening the judiciary? The must rule in your favor ir else? We wait your actions then. You will know men voted Tinubu.. Nobe only lp vote
how many men vote for tinubu? Out of 93 million registered voters only 8 million voted for him. Tinubu cannot even get 10% of total registered voters.
Re: Why The Law Made It Compulsory For A 25% In The FCT by ebufa: 10:29am On Mar 27, 2023
samunaka:


You are a fool, go out and campaign for votes to win election you refused, you you were going from church to church spreading hatred against the Muslim Muslim ticket, now have lost the election you want to become president through the back door, you will continue to labour in vain



Tinubu went out and campaigned with captured Lagos funds with which he bribed everybody in sight including YOU!
Re: Why The Law Made It Compulsory For A 25% In The FCT by pquaver(m): 5:44pm On Mar 27, 2023
uba1991:
how many men vote for tinubu? Out of 93 million registered voters only 8 million voted for him. Tinubu cannot even get 10% of total registered voters.

Ur obi has only 6 milliion so i dont know why you think people who didn't vote and invalid votes belong to u.. Dey play
Re: Why The Law Made It Compulsory For A 25% In The FCT by Misterone: 6:13pm On Mar 27, 2023
LocalStandard1:

You have sold your sense and reason to your god, see here.....
https://www.nairaland.com/7628155/deification-asiwaju-tinubu-south-west

but some of us are still very much in tone with reality and common sense. It is not only the Igbos that still have that cause I am clearly not one.
Let's follow your thought process. Obi did not get even 20% in any of the NW and NE states but you expect him to lord over these states as commander in chief! To appoint ministers from these states and also protect their interest! Does that make sense?
Re: Why The Law Made It Compulsory For A 25% In The FCT by fayomim: 6:50pm On Mar 27, 2023
derealj:


But they didn't end at 24 states, they said 24 states of the federation. Try and read to understand.

Abuja is part of the federation.

We are still saying the same thing....the topic is about FCT
Re: Why The Law Made It Compulsory For A 25% In The FCT by famology(m): 7:00pm On Mar 27, 2023
Why are you zombidients saying Peter obi won 12 states? Why not say he won 11 states and fct? Una no well. Soon you pained losers will start insulting judges after the court judgement.

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Re: Why The Law Made It Compulsory For A 25% In The FCT by favor914: 10:52pm On Mar 27, 2023
Jokay07:



It's highly illusional bringing unrelated examples such as yours; to interpret Section 134(2) of the constitutions.



Interpretation of the constitution is not a straightforward as people think.
However, I am not here to argue in favour or against any interpretation but it must be noted that there's already judicial precedent on this same issue.

Firstly,
The Court of Appeal in Okoyode v FCDA4.
The Court rule established FCT as a state.

Secondly
There's another SUPREME COURT ruling declaring FCT as a state. https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2020/09/08/fct-abuja-court-with-jurisdiction-on-matters-involving-its-agencies/

Although there's no clear interpretation as to whether FCT is a must
Section 299 of the constitution, establishes Abuja as a State.
Re: Why The Law Made It Compulsory For A 25% In The FCT by IgOga(m): 11:32am On Mar 28, 2023
wildernessVoice:


So you don't know that a minister is a representative of the President.
FCT doesn't elect minister but appointed by Mr. President just like other Federal Ministries. The President wins FCT during election and appoint a minister to oversee it's affairs on his behalf.


lol read section 299 of the constitution grin grin grin

Section 299 of the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria
The provisions of this Constitution shall apply to the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja as if it were one of the States of the Federation; and accordingly -

(a) all the legislative powers, the executive powers and the judicial powers vested in the House of Assembly, the Governor of a State and in the courts of a State shall, respectively, vest in the National Assembly, the President of the Federation and in the courts which by virtue of the foregoing provisions are courts established for the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja;

(b) all the powers referred to in paragraph (a) of this section shall be exercised in accordance with the provisions of this Constitution; and

(c) the provisions of this Constitution pertaining to the matters aforesaid shall be read with such modifications and adaptations as may be reasonably necessary to bring them into conformity with the provisions of this section.

More: https://jurist.ng/constitution/sec-299

And the National assembly members that have ZERO vote in the FCT are to act as legislators for FCT
Re: Why The Law Made It Compulsory For A 25% In The FCT by fayomim: 5:43pm On Mar 30, 2023
derealj:


But they didn't end at 24 states, they said 24 states of the federation. Try and read to understand.

Abuja is part of the federation.

Am not disputing that Abuja is not part of Federation, I was simply painting a scenerio for you. Now let me ask, is Abuja a state?

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