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Re: Interim Government: Why Tinubu Cannot Be Sworn-in On May 29 by ovieigho(m): 12:59am On Mar 30, 2023
Globad:
Nonsense

So what will happen if a candidate scores 25% in 36 states except in FCT? He won't be sworn in?

Rubbish

You guys should stop this FCT nonsense


That’s the law mr man …

Hillary Clinton won trump with over 1million votes

But their Law is winning through electoral college

Unfortunately buhari will be so daft to understand the part stated by the op

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Re: Interim Government: Why Tinubu Cannot Be Sworn-in On May 29 by benheaven(m): 1:07am On Mar 30, 2023
Ireportlive:




Yes that would be my response what makes Obi different from Tinubu?!... All votes are the same, FCT or any States, All citizens have equal right, and all Federating Unit making the Republic of Nigeria all have equal powers under the law..

It absurd to suddenly think Abuja is any different from any state

This is discrimination against other voters of other states

.

THEY COULDN'T RIG ABUJA BECAUSE PEOPLE THERE ARE TIMBERS AND CALIBERS. PETER OBI WON
ovieigho:



That’s the law mr man …

Hillary Clinton won trump with over 1million votes

But their Law is winning through electoral college

Unfortunately buhari will be so daft to understand the part stated by the op
THIS ELECTION IN A CLEAN SLATE. LET ME TELL YOU WHY FCT IS NEEDED IN THIS. YOU CANNOT LIVE AS A PRESIDENT IN FCT WHEN EVEN ONE QUARTER OF THE PEOPLE THERE DON'T WANT YOU.

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Re: Interim Government: Why Tinubu Cannot Be Sworn-in On May 29 by Bigfish121(m): 1:20am On Mar 30, 2023
We don talk tire them nor woh listen.
I think the parties concern should just go straight to the supreme court and seek for interpretation.
Re: Interim Government: Why Tinubu Cannot Be Sworn-in On May 29 by ovieigho(m): 1:46am On Mar 30, 2023
Ireportlive:




Yes that would be my response what makes Obi different from Tinubu?!... All votes are the same, FCT or any States, All citizens have equal right, and all Federating Unit making the Republic of Nigeria all have equal powers under the law..

It absurd to suddenly think Abuja is any different from any state

This is discrimination against other voters of other states

.


It’s not
Every states count

Even if anybody wins 25% in FCT or even 100% in FCT without the other requirements he goes no where
Pls read

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Re: Interim Government: Why Tinubu Cannot Be Sworn-in On May 29 by Ibrahimcoomasie: 2:01am On Mar 30, 2023
ovieigho:



That’s the law mr man …

Hillary Clinton won trump with over 1million votes

But their Law is winning through electoral college

Unfortunately buhari will be so daft to understand the part stated by the op
We do not have electoral college in Nigeria.

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Re: Interim Government: Why Tinubu Cannot Be Sworn-in On May 29 by AmotekunSW: 2:09am On Mar 30, 2023
Newton2024:
If Obi was in Tinubu's shoes, would this have been your response? Be sincere.

Obi is a useless noisemaker. His Umuahia party only won 1 state. He came 3rd in the election. He didn't win 25% in 24 states, but he wants to be President.
He's a dumb thief and he will be disgraced.

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Re: Interim Government: Why Tinubu Cannot Be Sworn-in On May 29 by AmotekunSW: 2:11am On Mar 30, 2023
Newton2024:
The literal interpretation of this section is that a candidate must secure 1/4th (25%) of votes cast in 2/3rd of the entire 36 States of Nigeria and 1/4th (25%) of votes cast in FCT. This provision is so clear, direct and unambiguous, that you don’t need a Professor of Constitutional Law to comprehend. The use of the word “and” had been held by the Supreme Court to be conjunctive, which implies that the conditions in Section 134(2)(b) are conjunctive and mandatory.

ovieigho:

It’s not
Every states count

Even if anybody wins 25% in FCT or even 100% in FCT without the other requirements he goes no where
Pls read

Maybe the Supreme Court has to subtitle it into your native language before it can enter your head.

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Re: Interim Government: Why Tinubu Cannot Be Sworn-in On May 29 by AmotekunSW: 2:14am On Mar 30, 2023
ovieigho:

That’s the law mr man …

Hillary Clinton won trump with over 1million votes

But their Law is winning through electoral college

Unfortunately buhari will be so daft to understand the part stated by the op

Obi that is making useless noise didn't even win 25% in 20 states when the law specifies 24 states.

He is just making noise to create awareness against 2027 when he tries his luck again.

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Re: Interim Government: Why Tinubu Cannot Be Sworn-in On May 29 by pquaver(m): 2:20am On Mar 30, 2023
a4cube:
They should made it 2/3 of 37 states. The constitution is clear 36 states and Abuja. Just like 5 credits and including English in the case of jamb.

I corrected you on waec.. It is 5 credits in subjects including maths and English..

My brother na for people wey mo understand English that will be making noise.. The constitution is clear.. And is conjuctive.. Meaning joining.. In that sentence "AND" simply joined FCT Abuja to the states meaning the requirements applied to sumation of both..

If i think bread and butter is delicious means when butter is on breead it is delicious.. It does not mean when u. Lick only buter or eat only bread is delicious..

And is used to join things to give an impression of togetherness. Taye and kehinde, peter and paul, bread and butter, Rice and beans, 36 states and fct.

If i tell you please i want to east 5 plates of Rice and beans.. What will you serve me be honest? You will give me 5 plates of a mixture of rice and beans not 5 plates of rice and 5 places of beans apply it to 36 ststes and fct and you see people who lost election are just trying to cause problems in Nigeria... Obi has no case with the rice (36 states) and beans.(Fct) .

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Re: Interim Government: Why Tinubu Cannot Be Sworn-in On May 29 by pquaver(m): 2:25am On Mar 30, 2023
benheaven:


THEY COULDN'T RIG ABUJA BECAUSE PEOPLE THERE ARE TIMBERS AND CALIBERS. PETER OBI WON THIS ELECTION IN A CLEAN SLATE. LET ME TELL YOU WHY FCT IS NEEDED IN THIS. YOU CANNOT LIVE AS A PRESIDENT IN FCT WHEN EVEN ONE QUARTER OF THE PEOPLE THERE DON'T WANT YOU.

So the national assembly that makes laws for fct who voted them? Not even 1% of fct voted them so what is your point?

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Re: Interim Government: Why Tinubu Cannot Be Sworn-in On May 29 by iLoveYouToo(m): 2:43am On Mar 30, 2023

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Re: Interim Government: Why Tinubu Cannot Be Sworn-in On May 29 by iLoveYouToo(m): 2:46am On Mar 30, 2023
ovieigho:


You know more than Olisa Agbakoba…..

Olodo


Everybody has interest . That provision is ambiguous otherwise these arguments won’t have come up. Let the courts decide


The is what the constitution says, VERBATIM

“(2) A candidate for an election to the office of President shall be deemed to have been duly elected where, there being more than two candidates for the election-

(a) he has the highest number of votes cast at the election;

and

(b) he has not less than one-quarter of the votes cast at the election each of at least two-thirds of all the States in the Federation and the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja.”


More: https://jurist.ng/constitution/sec-134

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Re: Interim Government: Why Tinubu Cannot Be Sworn-in On May 29 by IVORY2009(m): 2:51am On Mar 30, 2023
Chinjo2:


Try and read the law again. It is very clear. You must have 25% of vote cast in FCT. The law did not say you must win FCT. It says you must have a minimum of 25% in FCT. Is 25% too much for any serious candidate to get in FCT?




Unfortunately, many of them are not well schooled, illiterate is their second name.
Re: Interim Government: Why Tinubu Cannot Be Sworn-in On May 29 by iLoveYouToo(m): 2:57am On Mar 30, 2023
There are no new arguments put forward here, quit recycling opinions. This issue has been a major subject of discourse in the last 1 month.

It’s no news that FCT has a ‘state status’, choose wisely

If you wanted to make a statement to include all the 36 states and the FCT, e.g all the ministers from the 36 states and the FCT, would you rather say

a. 36 states and the FCT

b. 36 states, and the FCT

c. 37 states

This is a constitutional crisis

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Re: Interim Government: Why Tinubu Cannot Be Sworn-in On May 29 by iLoveYouToo(m): 3:09am On Mar 30, 2023
“In English, you must put a comma before “and” when it connects two independent clauses”

The constitution doesn’t do this

The constitution says

36 states and the FCT

NOT

36 states, and the FCT


Jagaban was rightly declared winner

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Re: Interim Government: Why Tinubu Cannot Be Sworn-in On May 29 by ovieigho(m): 3:22am On Mar 30, 2023
AmotekunSW:


Tell Agbakoba to go and argue it in the Supreme Court.
You obviously inherited your mother's madness.
If your wretched parents couldn't educate you and the most successful person in your lineage is a roadside mechanic, I don't share your family bad luck.
I posted a judgment for you. Everything you see there was written by the Supreme court.
If you are too daft to understand, that is your problem. No be me say make your mama born blockhead.
oni kure se

Afefe kan kin fe Ko ma kan igi oko lara

Sise sise ti aguntan fin ba iya e lo por ! Oti sise .::

Inu e o ni dun mo titi ayeraye…

N:B if you write again I won’t read it
So what ever you write against me again will be added to your woes

Omo eranko…..oti sise la’iye
Re: Interim Government: Why Tinubu Cannot Be Sworn-in On May 29 by IVORY2009(m): 3:26am On Mar 30, 2023
AmotekunSW:


Obi is a useless noisemaker. His Umuahia party only won 1 state. He came 3rd in the election. He didn't win 25% in 24 states, but he wants to be President.
He's a dumb thief and he will be disgraced.


What is this one saying again, Obi won so many states, but his votes were given to Mr president selected. States like Rivers, Lagos with 900k votes and many others.

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Re: Interim Government: Why Tinubu Cannot Be Sworn-in On May 29 by pquaver(m): 4:16am On Mar 30, 2023
Newton2024:


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2023/03/07/is-25-of-fct-votes-required-to-win


It is not mandatory.. English is used in context. And according to the constitution is used conjunctively meaning to bring 2 things together. 36 states of the federation and Fct Abuja mean the two brought together.. Examples abound : Bread and butter, rice and beans, taye and kehinde, peter and paul used to show 2 persons are together 1 in the cases of twins. So it shows the provision of the constitution applies to them together.. Let me kind of explain it you mathematically...
The constitution says Fct all provisions will apply as if it is a state.. What this means in constitution is Nigeria states are from Abia to zamfara (36 states of the Federation) and Fct abuja.. Apples and oranges = apples together woth oranges, rice and beans =rice together with beans.. Taye and kehinde together as twins. 36 states and fct is 36 togetwith fct.
Nigeria states = 36 states of the Federation and fct
Let Nigeria states be x
X = 36 states of federation and the fct

So the provision of the law in the constitution applies to X.
25% in 2/3 of X = spread.. Where X= 36 states and fct Note the aim of the constitution here is to achieve a spread and not that a candidate votes only from a particular region acquire their votes... Fct is North central.. So your compulsory fct requirement immediately nullifies the reason the constitution wanted a spread. That means if i get my spread in other states of the Federation say i win and get 25% 34 states of the Federation a candidate who does not make 25% in say 30 states and wins abuja like kwankwaso won kano abuja maybe he is from abuka and popular, he immediately renders such a spread null amd void, that is against the spirit of the constitution..
Let me make it clearer..
If you sell food and i ask you..
Madan please i need 10 plates of Rice and beans.. Will you give me 10 plates of rice mixed with beans or will you bring 10 plates of rice and 10 plates of beans..

Another example.. Please give peter and paul 500 naira.. Will you give a total of 500 naira that the both share or you bring out each 500 to make 1000 naira in both case you will do the formmer 10 plates of rice mixed with beans and 500 to peter and paul..

I dont know if you are trying to be mischievous or you natural ignorant of use of English... Seriously you guys should not burn the country because you lost an election..

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Re: Interim Government: Why Tinubu Cannot Be Sworn-in On May 29 by Christistruth03: 4:23am On Mar 30, 2023
Tinubu is going to be Sworn in

Interim Government is Unconstitutional and illegal

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Re: Interim Government: Why Tinubu Cannot Be Sworn-in On May 29 by favor914: 4:24am On Mar 30, 2023
Newton2024:


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2023/03/07/is-25-of-fct-votes-required-to-win
You claim the section is unambiguous, Yet you are still interpreting nonsense?
Re: Interim Government: Why Tinubu Cannot Be Sworn-in On May 29 by favor914: 4:28am On Mar 30, 2023
pquaver:



It is not mandatory.. English is used in context. And according to the constitution is used conjunctively meaning to bring 2 things together. 36 states of the federation and Fct Abuja mean the two brought together.. Examples abound : Bread and butter, rice and beans, taye and kehinde, peter and paul used to show 2 persons are together 1 in the cases of twins. So it shows the provision of the constitution applies to them together.. Let me kind of explain it you mathematically...
The constitution says Fct all provisions will apply as if it is a state.. What this means in constitution is Nigeria states are from Abia to zamfara (36 states of the Federation) and Fct abuja.. Apples and oranges = apples together woth oranges, rice and beans =rice together with beans.. Taye and kehinde together as twins. 36 states and fct is 36 togetwith fct.
Nigeria states = 36 states of the Federation and fct
Let Nigeria states be x
X = 36 states of federation and the fct

So the provision of the law in the constitution applies to X.
25% in 2/3 of X = spread.. Where X= 36 states and fct Note the aim of the constitution here is to achieve a spread and not that a candidate votes only from a particular region acquire their votes... Fct is North central.. So your compulsory fct requirement immediately nullifies the reason the constitution wanted a spread. That means if i get my spread in other states of the Federation say i win and get 25% 34 states of the Federation a candidate who does not make 25% in say 30 states and wins abuja like kwankwaso won kano abuja maybe he is from abuka and popular, he immediately renders such a spread null amd void, that is against the spirit of the constitution..
Let me make it clearer..
If you sell food and i ask you..
Madan please i need 10 plates of Rice and beans.. Will you give me 10 plates of rice mixed with beans or will you bring 10 plates of rice and 10 plates of beans..

Another example.. Please give peter and paul 500 naira.. Will you give a total of 500 naira that the both share or you bring out each 500 to make 1000 naira in both case you will do the formmer 10 plates of rice mixed with beans and 500 to peter and paul..

I dont know if you are trying to be mischievous or you natural ignorant of use of English... Seriously you guys should not burn the country because you lost an election..
No mater how you try to explain the fact to them, these oblivious Obidient knuckleheads ie newton2024 will always be disillusioned.

Stupid Judas Peter Obidient & his gang of Zombies.
Re: Interim Government: Why Tinubu Cannot Be Sworn-in On May 29 by Globad(f): 4:28am On Mar 30, 2023
ovieigho:



That’s the law mr man …

Hillary Clinton won trump with over 1million votes

But their Law is winning through electoral college

Unfortunately buhari will be so daft to understand the part stated by the op

This has nothing to do with Hillary
Re: Interim Government: Why Tinubu Cannot Be Sworn-in On May 29 by Globad(f): 4:32am On Mar 30, 2023
Chinjo2:


Try and read the law again. It is very clear. You must have 25% of vote cast in FCT. The law did not say you must win FCT. It says you must have a minimum of 25% in FCT. Is 25% too much for any serious candidate to get in FCT?

Which law?

Does the law say "25% of two thirds of states and FCT" or "25% of two thirds of states and 25% of FCT"?

Make una continue to find hope where none exists.

It will end in tears and insults

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Re: Interim Government: Why Tinubu Cannot Be Sworn-in On May 29 by pquaver(m): 4:33am On Mar 30, 2023
favor914:
No mater how you try to explain the fact to them, these oblivious Obidient knuckleheads ie newton2024 will always be disillusioned.

Stupid Judas Peter Obidient & his gang of Zombies.
I have done my best for them.. No be me tell them not go go to school.. The heartbreak go dey devastating..

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Re: Interim Government: Why Tinubu Cannot Be Sworn-in On May 29 by favor914: 4:38am On Mar 30, 2023
ovieigho:



That’s the law mr man …

Hillary Clinton won trump with over 1million votes

But their Law is winning through electoral college

Unfortunately buhari will be so daft to understand the part stated by the op
Oblivious Obidient, Maybe when the Supreme Court confirms Tinubu as the winner, realizing how daft you really are, will go & jump into the River Ethiope?

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