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Re: Defence Headquarters Allays Fears Over UN Military Vehicles by nairalanda1(m): 9:27am On Apr 05, 2023
Lithiumite:

The question is where are they coming from,they are heading south wards from the north......that's why I find it a bit strange,were they been stored in Nigeria before now and why being stored in the north as against the south which is closer to the port which must have cost huge amounts for logistics.

K.

Modified

At the end, they probably were thinking of transporting them by land...but that would involve going through two war torn countries ...CAR and T'chad. At the end, it has to be by sea.
Re: Defence Headquarters Allays Fears Over UN Military Vehicles by nairalanda1(m): 9:29am On Apr 05, 2023
Fighter2029:
I thought south Sudan is in East Africa,and Nigeria is in West Africa?

Yeah, the issue is, the land route goes through the Central African Republic, which is in crisis right now, and there is Chad, which is also in crisis right now, especially in its Eastern border.

The only viable route for now is the sea route..going to the coast of South Africa, then going up North to the Eastern Africa coast.

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Re: Defence Headquarters Allays Fears Over UN Military Vehicles by nairalanda1(m): 9:30am On Apr 05, 2023
BigBashiru:


They are not good liars....

It's because you want to believe that something is fishy...

Well, the land route goes through Central African Republic, which has ongoing crisis right now, and also goes through Chad, which has issues.

The best they can do is transport the equipment via sea. It is too long...but that's the only way for now.

You are, of course, free to disagree with me.

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Re: Defence Headquarters Allays Fears Over UN Military Vehicles by LaSenior: 9:34am On Apr 05, 2023
pquaver:


So warri port is working amd military is using it? And developers no gree person hear word about lagos and seaport? Omo igbo love lagos joor dem no fit ever leave.. Who go leave that place wey Tinubu do well for dem.. The chief obidient lives there talkless of his otimkpus..
this shows that you don't know anything about import and export, it is more cheaper to ship through Lagos than any other seaport in Nigeria, if it will take 2k to ship to Lagos then it will take 4k to ship to other port in Nigeria so as a business man which one would you go for, there is nothing like Lagos here ok I do shipping and I know what I am talking about
Re: Defence Headquarters Allays Fears Over UN Military Vehicles by Voldoz: 9:35am On Apr 05, 2023
Jakpon:
Did I just read "Warri Port"? If the Port at Warri can be functional so much so that the United Nations ships its assets through that passage, why then do our brothers from the east side keep complaining about the Lagos Port being the only active Port in the country

Bro if you go NPA that place needs to be Dredged and the port needs maintenance to function but everything boils down to FG and State government I think, cause I don't know why all our ports in SS non is working.

I remember back then when NPA was functioning mhen things was cheap and they was jobs but now that place is like sambisa even DSC self they don't want to restore it.

Bro I no go lie they is more to see that we ain't seeing, cause if the ports in SS are functioning properly we will be unstoppable and it will be more easier for those in SE to do Business.
Re: Defence Headquarters Allays Fears Over UN Military Vehicles by LaSenior: 9:36am On Apr 05, 2023
RAND250:


Who nor like better thing
nothing like better thing

this shows that you don't know anything about import and export, it is more cheaper to ship through Lagos than any other seaport in Nigeria, if it will take 2k to ship to Lagos then it will take 4k to ship to other port in Nigeria so as a business man which one would you go for, there is nothing like Lagos here ok I do shipping and I know what I am talking about
Re: Defence Headquarters Allays Fears Over UN Military Vehicles by Voldoz: 9:39am On Apr 05, 2023
LaSenior:
this shows that you don't know anything about import and export, it is more cheaper to ship through Lagos than any other seaport in Nigeria, if it will take 2k to ship to Lagos then it will take 4k to ship to other port in Nigeria so as a business man which one would you go for, there is nothing like Lagos here ok I do shipping and I know what I am talking about

Oga Warri port no dey cheap goods like Lagos port it's not a problem of price. Even if Lagos port is cheaper the transportation from Lagos to other part of the country might still be a stumbling block I rather ship 4k and spend 2k to transport to my destination than to ship 2k and spend 6k to transport to my destination.

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Re: Defence Headquarters Allays Fears Over UN Military Vehicles by Kelvin30286063(m): 9:48am On Apr 05, 2023
Una too like wahala for this country. We see UN military vehicles all the time here in Ondo state. They travel in convoy of 20 to 30 and they always cause traffic on highways when they travel but we don't say anything cos I guess Ondo people are educated enough to know that Nigeria is a major player in the UN defense program.

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Re: Defence Headquarters Allays Fears Over UN Military Vehicles by Desusi: 9:49am On Apr 05, 2023
RAND250:


Who nor like better thing
Sit down jeje dey look joor!
Re: Defence Headquarters Allays Fears Over UN Military Vehicles by Nobody: 10:09am On Apr 05, 2023
nairalanda1:


Yeah, the issue is, the land route goes through the Central African Republic, which is in crisis right now, and there is Chad, which is also in crisis right now, especially in its Eastern border.

The only viable route for now is the sea route..going to the coast of South Africa, then going up North to the Eastern Africa coast.
...what manner of explanation is this,they said UN is using warri port to move those things to south Sudan,but you are talking about Chad and Central Africa,what happened to moving them through Kenya,Ugadan which are neighbouring countries to South Sudan .
Re: Defence Headquarters Allays Fears Over UN Military Vehicles by naptu2: 10:13am On Apr 05, 2023
Fighter2029:
...what manner of explanation is this,they said UN is using warri port to move those things to south Sudan,but you are talking about Chad and Central Africa,what happened to moving them through Kenya,Ugadan which are neighbouring countries to South Sudan .

naptu2:
By the way, those are not United Nations owned vehicles. They belong to the Nigerian Army. They are painted in UN colours because they are going to be used for a United Nations mission.

It's like the Pinzgauer below. It's a Nigerian Army Pinzgauer, but it has the Ecowas logo on it because it was being used for an Ecomog mission.

It's also like Nigerian Army troops that wear blue helmets and UN logos when they are on UN missions.

Re: Defence Headquarters Allays Fears Over UN Military Vehicles by Nobody: 10:16am On Apr 05, 2023
Anything FG immediately comes out to deny is usually true
Re: Defence Headquarters Allays Fears Over UN Military Vehicles by Invitationn: 10:25am On Apr 05, 2023
Fighter2029:
I thought south Sudan is in East Africa,and Nigeria is in West Africa?
Na yeye journey. Too long!
But it’s safer than land.
Re: Defence Headquarters Allays Fears Over UN Military Vehicles by tirigbosa: 10:29am On Apr 05, 2023
EteBabaagba222:


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Thank you
Re: Defence Headquarters Allays Fears Over UN Military Vehicles by Invitationn: 10:30am On Apr 05, 2023
Fighter2029:
...what manner of explanation is this,they said UN is using warri port to move those things to south Sudan,but you are talking about Chad and Central Africa,what happened to moving them through Kenya,Ugadan which are neighbouring countries to South Sudan .
Check your map on Google. It’s not that complicated.
How do you move them through Kenya from Nigeria without moving them through Chad or CAR first?
Re: Defence Headquarters Allays Fears Over UN Military Vehicles by okorogodwin4(m): 10:32am On Apr 05, 2023
pquaver:


So warri port is working amd military is using it? And developers no gree person hear word about lagos and seaport? Omo igbo love lagos joor dem no fit ever leave.. Who go leave that place wey Tinubu do well for dem.. The chief obidient lives there talkless of his otimkpus..
and yaraba work in South East and South South .is to do.pastor. Work and collect tithe and offering shameless church criminals
Re: Defence Headquarters Allays Fears Over UN Military Vehicles by pquaver(m): 10:42am On Apr 05, 2023
okorogodwin4:
and yaraba work in South East and South South .is to do.pastor. Work and collect tithe and offering shameless church criminals

That concern you and Yoruba, me als omo ibo i no gree leave lagos, una wey claim to leave oya see you see warri port.. I am igbo i love lagos, i schooled in lagos and i respect their culture and politics.. Can you say same about urself?

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Re: Defence Headquarters Allays Fears Over UN Military Vehicles by seeyounow: 10:42am On Apr 05, 2023
shocked shocked embarassed
Re: Defence Headquarters Allays Fears Over UN Military Vehicles by naptu2: 10:50am On Apr 05, 2023
The United Nations does not have troops or military equipment

The United Nations does not have troops or military equipment. Member nations contribute troops and military equipment for peace keeping missions. There are many different ways in which member states can contribute to peacekeeping missions.

1) Troops and military equipment:

A country like Nigeria can contribute troops and military equipment like trucks, armoured fighting vehicles, tanks, etc. to United Nations peacekeeping missions. The biggest contributors in this category are developing countries from Asia (Bangladesh, India, Pakistan, Nepal, etc), Africa (Nigeria, Kenya, Tanzania, Ghana, etc) and South America (Brazil, etc).

Countries contribute troops to these mission in order for the troops to gain experience, in order to boost their international standing and also for humanitarian reasons.

2) Money

A member state could contribute money to UN missions. The biggest contributors in this category are developed countries like the United States, the United Kingdom, France, etc.

The United Nations pays allowances to troops on peacekeeping missions. For example, a Nigerian soldier on peacekeeping mission will receive his salary from the Nigerian Government and he will also receive an allowance (in dollars) from the United Nations.

The countries that contribute troops and equipment also receive funds for other reasons, for example, in this case, the United Nations might bear the cost of painting those vehicles in UN colours.

3) Logistics

I'll explain this with an example. The Nigerian Air Force has C130 aircraft with which it flies troops, vehicles and other equipment to where they are needed. However, the United States (from which we got our C130s) imposed sanctions on Nigeria after the June 12, 1993 elections were annulled. We couldn't get spare parts for the C130 or have them repaired. Many C130s were grounded in the late 1990s and early 2000s.

Nigeria wanted to provide troops and vehicles for a UN mission in the early 2000s, but we didn't have enough C130s to fly them there. The United States Air Force contributed to the UN mission by using its C130s and C5 Galaxy to fly Nigerian troops and equipment to the country where the mission took place.


Those vehicles in Edo State are Nigerian Army vehicles. That exact same type of Toyota Land Cruiser (Buffalo) is being used in Borno and other states where there are insurgencies.
Re: Defence Headquarters Allays Fears Over UN Military Vehicles by nairalanda1(m): 10:51am On Apr 05, 2023
Fighter2029:
...what manner of explanation is this,they said UN is using warri port to move those things to south Sudan,but you are talking about Chad and Central Africa,what happened to moving them through Kenya,Ugadan which are neighbouring countries to South Sudan .

Erm to get to kenya and uganda you have to go via CAR or DR Congo which has issues and war.
Re: Defence Headquarters Allays Fears Over UN Military Vehicles by Esales(m): 11:17am On Apr 05, 2023
nairalanda1:


K.

Modified

At the end, they probably were thinking of transporting them by land...but that would involve going through two war torn countries ...CAR and T'chad. At the end, it has to be by sea.


There's no way to get to South Sudan either from Nigeria except through the same Chad and Congo. DRC is the best route from Equitorial Guinea.

The trucks were sighted at Warri, Edo and Ebonyi, which only makes sense if they're going to Cameroon which is where they passed on their way here

See the map below.... The lie doesn't add up.
If you have a better clarification, I'm willing to hear it

Re: Defence Headquarters Allays Fears Over UN Military Vehicles by nairalanda1(m): 11:21am On Apr 05, 2023
Esales:


There's no way to get to South Sudan either from Nigeria except through the same Chad and Congo. DRC is the best route from Equitorial Guinea.

The trucks were sighted at Warri, Edo and Ebonyi, which only makes sense if they're going to Cameroon which is where they passed on their way here

See the map below.... The lie doesn't add up.
If you have a better clarification, I'm willing to hear it

Yes. M23..and several other militias in the east of the dr congo
Re: Defence Headquarters Allays Fears Over UN Military Vehicles by naptu2: 11:24am On Apr 05, 2023
Esales:


There's no way to get to South Sudan either from Nigeria except through the same Chad and Congo. DRC is the best route from Equitorial Guinea.

The trucks were sighted at Warri, Edo and Ebonyi, which only makes sense if they're going to Cameroon which is where they passed on their way here

See the map below.... The lie doesn't add up.
If you have a better clarification, I'm willing to hear it

naptu2:
By the way, those are not United Nations owned vehicles. They belong to the Nigerian Army. They are painted in UN colours because they are going to be used for a United Nations mission.

It's like the Pinzgauer below. It's a Nigerian Army Pinzgauer, but it has the Ecowas logo on it because it was being used for an Ecomog mission.

It's also like Nigerian Army troops that wear blue helmets and UN logos when they are on UN missions.

Re: Defence Headquarters Allays Fears Over UN Military Vehicles by naptu2: 11:25am On Apr 05, 2023
Esales:


There's no way to get to South Sudan either from Nigeria except through the same Chad and Congo. DRC is the best route from Equitorial Guinea.

The trucks were sighted at Warri, Edo and Ebonyi, which only makes sense if they're going to Cameroon which is where they passed on their way here

See the map below.... The lie doesn't add up.
If you have a better clarification, I'm willing to hear it

naptu2:
The United Nations does not have troops or military equipment

The United Nations does not have troops or military equipment. Member nations contribute troops and military equipment for peace keeping missions. There are many different ways in which member states can contribute to peacekeeping missions.

1) Troops and military equipment:

A country like Nigeria can contribute troops and military equipment like trucks, armoured fighting vehicles, tanks, etc. to United Nations peacekeeping missions. The biggest contributors in this category are developing countries from Asia (Bangladesh, India, Pakistan, Nepal, etc), Africa (Nigeria, Kenya, Tanzania, Ghana, etc) and South America (Brazil, etc).

Countries contribute troops to these mission in order for the troops to gain experience, in order to boost their international standing and also for humanitarian reasons.

2) Money

A member state could contribute money to UN missions. The biggest contributors in this category are developed countries like the United States, the United Kingdom, France, etc.

The United Nations pays allowances to troops on peacekeeping missions. For example, a Nigerian soldier on peacekeeping mission will receive his salary from the Nigerian Government and he will also receive an allowance (in dollars) from the United Nations.

The countries that contribute troops and equipment also receive funds for other reasons, for example, in this case, the United Nations might bear the cost of painting those vehicles in UN colours.

3) Logistics

I'll explain this with an example. The Nigerian Air Force has C130 aircraft with which it flies troops, vehicles and other equipment to where they are needed. However, the United States (from which we got our C130s) imposed sanctions on Nigeria after the June 12, 1993 elections were annulled. We couldn't get spare parts for the C130 or have them repaired. Many C130s were grounded in the late 1990s and early 2000s.

Nigeria wanted to provide troops and vehicles for a UN mission in the early 2000s, but we didn't have enough C130s to fly them there. The United States Air Force contributed to the UN mission by using its C130s and C5 Galaxy to fly Nigerian troops and equipment to the country where the mission took place.


Those vehicles in Edo State are Nigerian Army vehicles. That exact same type of Toyota Land Cruiser (Buffalo) is being used in Borno and other states where there are insurgencies.
Re: Defence Headquarters Allays Fears Over UN Military Vehicles by Esales(m): 11:27am On Apr 05, 2023
nairalanda1:


Yes. M23..and several other militias in the east of the dr congo

Just because of a tiny fraction of DRC..... Which isn't even bordering South Sudan, it makes sense to cut off the whole DRC and go through Nigeria?

What route do you think they'll use from Nigeria ?

Libya, Chad, CAR are all in a mess

Re: Defence Headquarters Allays Fears Over UN Military Vehicles by Esales(m): 11:32am On Apr 05, 2023
naptu2:



But they were imported from Equitorial Guinea via Mt HR Pearl.... They were offloaded from the vessel painted in UN Peace keeping colours right from the vessel... And they look new, that's by the way.

If Nigeria is donating to the UN for the South Sudan mission, Nigeria should be sending vessels to DRC to easily access South Sudan by road because the land route to South Sudan is f*cked up all the way to Libya.

I attached a map for clearer understanding of my point

Re: Defence Headquarters Allays Fears Over UN Military Vehicles by naptu2: 11:38am On Apr 05, 2023
Esales:


But they were imported from Equitorial Guinea via Mt HR Pearl.... They were offloaded from the vessel painted in UN Peace keeping colours right from the vessel... And they look new, that's by the way.

If Nigeria is donating to the UN for the South Sudan mission, Nigeria should be sending vessels to DRC to easily access South Sudan by road because the land route to South Sudan is f*cked up all the way to Libya.

I attached a map for clearer understanding of my point


They were loaded onto the vessel. They were not shipped into Nigeria on the vessel.

Re: Defence Headquarters Allays Fears Over UN Military Vehicles by naptu2: 11:39am On Apr 05, 2023
Esales:


But they were imported from Equitorial Guinea via Mt HR Pearl.... They were offloaded from the vessel painted in UN Peace keeping colours right from the vessel... And they look new, that's by the way.

If Nigeria is donating to the UN for the South Sudan mission, Nigeria should be sending vessels to DRC to easily access South Sudan by road because the land route to South Sudan is f*cked up all the way to Libya.

I attached a map for clearer understanding of my point


I am also going to give you more information about the mission. Starting now.
Re: Defence Headquarters Allays Fears Over UN Military Vehicles by Esales(m): 11:39am On Apr 05, 2023
naptu2:



Understand my point, they were already painted when offloaded from Equitorial Guinea. And we both know that there's no UN Peace Keeping mission going on in the Equitorial Guinea.

I attached a photo of the vessels being offloaded from Mt HR Pearl

What do you think about this?

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