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Theflint1:
I've read books from Shakespeare, Victor Hugo, Dostoevsky, Gogol, and Tolstoy, some of which were even translated scripts yet I found their works very interesting despite their writings being complex.

Wole Soyinka's works being complex isn't why I don't find them interesting.

Who sabi all these people for street? You dey contradict yourself.

A001:
I voted for PO and will do so again. However, I don't follow mobs and don't react emotionally to issues.

The fact that I supported PO, and still support him, doesn't mean I agree with everything other supporters say or their approach to issues.

There are some lines I can never cross while supporting a Nigerian politician.

WS is a highly respected writer who has paid his dues in the fight for democracy in this country, and I feel those people castigating him are merely overreacting and barking the wrong tree.

I've elderly ones at home that criticize PO now and then. That doesn't mean I should start fighting or arguing with them.

Nigerian politicians aren't worth fighting over or for.

When Buhari said he would speak in the language Biafrans understand, Soyinka blasted him among many other times. But now, because of tackling a reckless talk by Datti, the ill-mannered Obidients descended on him.

Many eyes will fully open after May 29.

raumdeuter:
For japa all way na way until you reach your final destination

Do not relent keep pushing

People wey wan japa never really look into am… I was ready to follow any legal means to enter Western Countries

I met one lady here that came with business visa… na chin chin and small chops she Dey sell for naija but she’s on an 8years visa right now….. She just Dey cash out with no tuition to pay.

airmark:
Well some of us didn't berate Achebe.

Saying Messi >>>> Yekini, is even a plus for Yekini.
May the soul of the gangling striker rest in peace.

[color=royalblue]I can never understand the need to talk down on Achebe or Soyinka

Especially Soyinka...

Suddenly Nobel Laureate na wetin dem dey issue for Apongbon.

Too low, in my opinion[/color]

airmark:
😄

Like OasisX, mi o ni so nkan kan.

You for no hear word if I enter that ice country

obainojazz:
People wey wan japa never really look into am… I was ready to follow any legal means to enter Western Countries

I met one lady here that came with business visa… na chin chin and small chops she Dey sell for naija but she’s on an 8years visa right now….. She just Dey cash out with no tuition to pay.

I sabi one guy in Yankee. He started from Naija to from Botswana to South Africa to Fiji to Australia now in USA

Japa is what they say just take one step at a time, That guy fit dey wait to get yankee visa from naija and wont be able to but he took his japa journey one step at a time one country where visa is easier to the next and now he is in his destination

larride:
These bigots in Canada 😡

Here's another example I read about last week:

Amsterdam tells English men between the ages of 18 and 35 to stay away from their city as they are uncouth nuisances.

Blunt. They are complaining the English don't respect their Netherland hosts.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/travel/europe/amsterdam-tells-brits-stay-away-29576705

airmark:
When Buhari said he would speak in the language Biafrans understand, Soyinka blasted him among many other times. But now, because of tackling a reckless talk by Datti, the ill-mannered Obidients descended on him.

Many eyes will fully open after May 29.

Their criticism is misplaced. They're barking the wrong tree. Soyinka has criticized successive governments in Nigeria, and people like him keep our leaders on their toes.

If BAT errs too, WS won't spare him.

It's easy to criticize the government now on social media. But in an era where there was no Internet, Soyinka criticized military governments in Nigeria, was imprisoned for fighting for democracy and justice, and almost got killed.

So if he made some innocuous statements that are not true at his age, it's not something any reasonable person should make a fuss about.

Everyone doesn't have to like or support PO.

I'm sure Nigeria has never had a Wole Soyinka vs Achebe comparison, another first for the Obidient movement.

Ibime:
Leave all this grammar

Achebe dey run street

Quotables and Parables from one of Achebe book alone is enough to read and just laugh for 2 hours.

You have only exhibited one-dimensionality, too.

You guys cannot be cured.

Gimba who batist now worship because you know why.This might be when buharist and northerners came for soyinka.

Today, obidients should keep shut and not point out his hypocrisy when he called them fascist.

A001:
Who sabi all these people for street? You dey contradict yourself.

Don't cherry pick, read the entire point of what I'm saying.

OasisX:


Em Wife sef don tán na wọ rọ. We are Batists not Buharists.

That tweet by her was unnecessary.

Those tribal shots by GRV in the past haunted him, wife now poured petrol into the fire to totally consume the little hope remaining of his husband's dream in Lagos.

raumdeuter:
A ti ko ifa nile, Ifa tin se

See A001 wey hate Tinubu and didn't vote him, but when insults begin reach those he respected, he turned against the Obidients,

This next 4 yrs will be interesting, BATist dont even have to do anything, Obidients will sort themselves out.

They lost almost half of the Yoruba's wey vote Obi in the GRV "I don't think in Yoruba" saga. In all these Obidient thing, which prominent Yoruba never collect is it Awolowo MKO, Fela now Soyinka.

😂😂
They’ll lose all their followers since they want toll this path

That A0001 reply just weak me😂

raumdeuter:
I sabi one guy in Yankee. He started from Naija to from Botswana to South Africa to Fiji to Australia now in USA

Japa is what they say just take one step at a time, That guy fit dey wait to get yankee visa from naija and wont be able to but he took his japa journey one step at a time one country where visa is easier to the next and now he is in his destination

Exactly…. Poco a poco till you achieve your aims

You see people that have lived somewhere for years finally settling in their dream country.

Theflint1:
Don't cherry pick, read the entire point of what I'm saying.

You're contradicting yourself. Only very few people on the street know those writers you mentioned.

The point is nobel prize awards and similar prestigious awards are not given based on street credibility. Street credibility isn't even one of the requirements.

A001:
You're contradicting yourself. Only very few on the street know those writers you mentioned.

The point is nobel prize awards and similar prestigious awards are not given based on street credibility. Street credibility isn't even one of the requirements.

How did you manage to turn this argument into what the criteria for the Nobel Prize is?

Theflint1:
I'm sure Nigeria has never had a Wole Soyinka vs Achebe comparison, another first for the Obidient movement.

This una movement no good. To you people, anyone that calls out Obi is bad even if Obi is in the wrong.

If anyone attacks Obi, you people will think that person is attacking Igbo.

You people will continue to get it wrong with such mindset.

A001:
Their criticism is misplaced. They're barking the wrong tree. Soyinka has criticized successive governments in Nigeria, and people like him keep our leaders on their toes.

If BAT errs too, WS won't spare him.

It's easy to criticize the government now on social media. But in an era where there was no Internet, Soyinka criticized military governments in Nigeria, was imprisoned for fighting for democracy and justice, and almost got killed.

So if he made some innocuous statements that are not true at his age, it's not something any reasonable person should make a fuss about.

Everyone doesn't have to like or support PO.

Even Pete Obi is not safe from them Obiedients…. The movement has spiraled out of control especially on twitter.

monerozi5590:
This una movement no good. To you people, anyone that calls out Obi is bad even if Obi is in the wrong.

If anyone attacks Obi, you people will think that person is attacking Igbo.

You people will continue to get it wrong with such mindset.

You're the one making it about politics. I'm sure the people that have had Wole Soyinka vs Achebe in the past did so because of the Obidient movement that would take place in the future.

Theflint1:
How did you manage to turn this argument into what the criteria for the Nobel Prize is?

You said Soyinka isn't known on the street to downplay his achievements as a nobel laureate and then listed other writers (literary giants) that are not also known on the street as well.

All these funny Nairaland arguments sef

obainojazz:
Even Pete Obi is not safe from them Obiedients…. The movement has spiraled out of control especially on twitter.

Na their palaver. I no dey active on Twitter and no get time for mob activities.

Some of my childhood books

The river between
Mine boy
Wrong ones in the duck
Things fall apart
The lion and the jewel
Oliver Twist
*Julius Caesar didn't get to read this before it was missing

A001:
You said Soyinka isn't known on the street to downplay his achievements as a nobel laureate and then listed other writers (literary giants) that are not also known on the street as well.

All these funny Nairaland arguments sef

Those writers are listed, did any of them win the Nobel Prize? We were talking about the complexity of his work, and I brought other writers with equally complex works (some translated texts even), who I enjoy and you're turning it to another thing.

OasisX:


Em Wife sef don tán na wọ rọ. We are Batists not Buharists.

Like I said this is not like Buhari where it was open season on Fulanis and they didn't respond for most of it

Now its fire for fire.

Someone don reply Chimamanda
https://www.nairaland.com/7644702/dr-dele-afelumos-response-chimamanda

I don't even know him, In the next 5 days I expect 10 more detailed intellectual responses to Chimamanda(not you are mad, you are crazy type of responses)

Those who know how to talk should know there are people who know know how to reply

Oyo mesi oro

ToyinDipo:
Some of my childhood books

The river between
Mine boy
Wrong ones in the duck
Things fall apart
The lion and the jewel
Oliver Twist
*Julius Caesar didn't get to read this before it was missing

Mine Boy was one good story.

Theflint1:
You're the one making it about politics. I'm sure the people that have had Wole Soyinka vs Achebe in the past did so because of the Obidient movement that would take place in the future.

You people started attacking him because he criticize your movement. Started comparing him to Achebe and all .

Your movement is too toxic. They attack anyone that don't align with them.

They insulted Adeboye for no reason. We know all those things.

Theflint1:
Mine Boy was one good story.

Yep, about South Africans, Zuma, Paddy, Rachael... one of my favourites.
The River between is my all time AWS favourite

Theflint1:
Those writers are listed, did any of them win the Nobel Prize? We were talking about the complexity of his work, and I brought other writers with equally complex works (some translated texts even), who I enjoy and you're turning it to another thing.

The other writers are literary giants as well and are not known on the street. Achebe was a literary giant as well, who is not known on the street.

Only few people on the street can mention just the title of a novel written by Achebe, and even fewer people can mention the title of two of his works.

That doesn't take anything away from his works.

All these writers are popular in the academic circles, not on the street.

Street credibility isn't one of the requirements to win the Nobel Prize like WS did or win other awards like Achebe did.

You don't have to downplay Soyinka's achievements to praise Achebe's.

The fact is a nobel laureate is among the best of the best and will be more celebrated than his peers that were also geniuses but didn't win the most prestigious award in literature.

monerozi5590:
You people started attacking him because he criticize your movement. Started comparing him to Achebe and all .

Your movement is too toxic. They attack anyone that don't align with them.

They insulted Adeboye for no reason. We know all those things.

You don't tell people how to react after insulting them. Stop sounding like he is getting dragged unprovoked.


""By the way, I do agree with Seun Kuti; ‘Obidients’ is one of the most repulsive, off-putting concoctions I ever encountered in any political arena - Prof. Wole Soyinka""

Chimanmada Adichie is another writer I hope can win the Nobel prize in the near future for her works. But she needs to do much more better.