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seankafor:
that reminds me

Donjazet2 , Donjazet

What do you have to say about these online poor girls called feminists

I attended a colleague's function today so didn't have time to comment on the issue.

Reading the whole thing, I was quite confused because the flow of the conversation was quite distorted, at first it looked like it was a question of people not knowing how to cook, I mean, we are in era where everyone can easily cook anything with the advent of the internet, just have your utensils and food items and you can cook whatever you want, then it seemed the Convo diverted to gender roles in the society, with cooking highlighted as a key part of a woman's role.

At this point, to me it now seemed like an argument between conservatism and liberalism and once I hear an argument of a conservative, I know the person is making a losing argument because conservatives will always lose. One cannot fight change. I mean think of how the world was 100 years ago and how it is today.
I was on reddit before and came across a picture of the US president Theodore Roosevelt giving a state of the union speech. For those who don't know what this is, it's an annual event where the president addresses all senior government officials and makes a speech on the current "state of the union", his victories and his plans. This event has in attendance, all elected members of Congress, all supreme court justices, all heads of the military from the Pentagon and all cabinet members. It's the highest political event of the year. And guess what, only 3 women were present in the room. Like, think about this, in the 1930's in America, of all the electable and government appointed positions in the US, only 3 women were present out of more than 600 government officials. Today, that number has risen from 0.3 percent to about 37 percent. That's progress, thanks to liberalism.
100 years ago, a woman's role was heavily constrained to the home. That simply isn't the ideal case anymore.

Someone was highlighting roles played by men in the society today, roles that were carried out by predominantly men in their fields today, example military, oil drilling, road transportation etc.

Reading that, it seemed to me like this person wasn't cognizant of the makeup of the labor force today globally. Talking about the military, we are currently seeing the highest participation of women in the military around the world and that number is set to grow even further. The world currently has the highest percentage of women in military. From female combatants to female snipers to female military engineers to female munitions officers. The role of women in military is ever expanding.

Just exactly like the police force. Many years ago, women were barely in the police force, today it's at an all time high.

So this argument of pigeon holing women and men into various gender roles is a diminishing argument. Someone said "a man would go out there and hustle for money to provide for the family while the woman should maintain the home". sorry 2023 has left you behind. We're not in the 1800's anymore. I don't know about you guys but I have two working class parents who were both salary earners and built their wealth from there.

Short story; today my family is an upper middle class family. My parents own a school, a 40 room hotel, some landed properties which they collect rents from annually and some few plots scattered around in home town and cities. Their story; both civil servants; put money together, bought lands in portharcourt in 2001 after mother's work colleague informed her of state government plan to build access roads in rukpokwu, rivers, buys 2 plots for 500k plus, 300k from dad, 200k plus from mum, more than 60% of their annual salary then. Fast forward to 2009, the place has completely changed, with development sprawling everywhere and planned estate, Catholic church buys one of the plots for 35 million naira. Parents Uses it to set up a school. Only nursery and primary. With gradual expansion over few years to include daycare and junior secondary. All these while still earning salary and gaining promotion.

Dad is transferred, church buys up the school. With both school and land valuation now at 90 million plus, meanwhile the land bought for 6 million with earlier proceeds when they sold the initial land to the church for 35 is now sold for 25 million. I could go on and on but the motive is to let you know that this was a joint partnership with 2 working class parents.

My dad and mum both know how to cook but we always had a distant relative from the village who stayed with us at various points over the years and helped with domestic chores around the house. Cooking was mainly handled by my sister and the help.

On Saturdays and Sundays we cook meals in large quantities then store them in our deep freezer and then warm them over the course of the week. My parents still do that till today. Breakfast normal bread and tea or fried yam and egg with akumu\custard.

So the world has moved on from this primary role partitioning. It's left for each husband and wife to know what works for them not naturally pigeon-holing women into roles to play.
At the end of the day, liberalism will always triumph because change is constant and liberalism is about the freedom of the individual as opposed to historical societal norms. Saudi Arabia and dubia will one day legalize gay marriage, it may take 50 years, heck who knows, 100 years sef but it is inevitable. Because religion will lose its stranglehold rapidly in the coming decades with the continuing easy access to information and education.

Saying women must learn how to cook is bad. What makes it bad is that you're restricting cooking to only women. All adults should know how to cook. Any man that doesn't know how to cook is a failure. Cooking is a basic skill of survival. A basic skill of life , so you guys make a mistake when you restrict it to only one gender.

Na Seankafor you type this intelligent rebuttal for, Don J?? 🙆🏿‍♀️🙆🏿‍♀️


Ah! You will be disappointed o.

Someone that doesn't think more than sex, cum, prostitution. 😅

Okay.


I am sure by his using the line "poor feminist girls", he wasn't expecting your angle at all.

Asin, he nor get the range at all.

Magnoliaa:
Na Seankafor you type this intelligent rebuttal for, Don J?? 🙆🏿‍♀️🙆🏿‍♀️


Ah! You will be disappointed o.

Someone that doesn't think more than sex, cum, prostitution. 😅

Okay.


I am sure by his using the line "poor feminist girls", he wasn't expecting your angle at all.

in the words of my boss

none of us here send that Magnoliaa chick

Magnoliaa:
Na Seankafor you type this intelligent rebuttal for, Don J?? 🙆🏿‍♀️🙆🏿‍♀️
Ah! You will be disappointed o.

Someone that doesn't think more than sex, cum, prostitution. 😅
Okay.

I am sure by his using the line "poor feminist girls", he wasn't expecting your angle at all.

The entire argument over the past 10 pages dey confusing as fvck. I was wondering how we now got from we must all learn how to cook to women must cook to talking about sex with younger girls. I couldn't even draw the parallels myself despite trying to follow up.
Make una just fimile joor.

seankafor:
in the words of my boss

none of us here send that Mag noliaa chick

Of course, some men will always be more of a man than you'll ever be.

It is only the lowliest of women you can attempt to 'lord over', but you will always be a "yes boy" to fellow men.

OasisX:


Kini fi ń ṣe ni. I've made it my hobby nah.

Okay, Yoruba yii ka mi laya.

I don't understand.

Magnoliaa:
Of course, some men will always be more of a man than you'll ever be.

It is only the lowliest of women you can attempt to 'lord over', but you will always be a "yes boy" to fellow men.

yes, I worship most men too like lord Putin

Feed me more 🤲

seankafor:
yes, I worship most men too like lord Putin

Feed me more 🤲

I am glad you accept your place in life. 👍

Now you can buzz off.

OasisX:


Simply means; No Qualms.

You smile so much.


You must be a happy man.

Magnoliaa:
I am glad you accept your place in life. 👍

Now you can buzz off.

okay ma

Goodnight, OasisX, my fusure olowo ori. 💜💮🌷🌼


I wo nikan ni mo ri. 😹

Magnoliaa:
I am glad you accept your place in life. 👍

Now you can buzz off.

Hi Magnoliaa 👋

How are you?

Omo northerners no get joy oo

See as this man wan drag a whole REC at the ending of this video

https://twitter.com/Galafi_Hamma/status/1647583353237913603?t=5oWHoFSj83URkibGiNYHIA&s=19

The people wey bring this discussion come here no try at all.

Emaprince:
Thats because they can recoup the money.

There is money in this country bro.

Which money? Nigeria is poor my friend....

Difference between Buhari and Tinubu in Coaching terms: Buhari (LVG) Tinubu (PEP)
Buhari never interfere with Ministry for 8 years- Fashola
This explains a lot of things that happens under Buhari's Administration pic.twitter.com/DJyy0KMkKJ

— Imran Muhammad (@Imranmuhdz) April 16, 2023

Buhari vs Tinubu

raumdeuter:

Difference between Buhari and Tinubu in Coaching terms: Buhari (LVG) Tinubu (PEP)
Buhari never interfere with Ministry for 8 years- Fashola
This explains a lot of things that happens under Buhari's Administration pic.twitter.com/DJyy0KMkKJ

— Imran Muhammad (@Imranmuhdz) April 16, 2023

Buhari vs Tinubu

this probably explains a lot about the issues we have had in buharis administration

no matter how much you have planned for a project, things can and will go wrong

and the people you have pt in place may need further support and guidance

example - i was managing a project back in 2015. we were demolishing a station to build a new station. everything had been planned. and then we encountered peat in the site. 5 metres of decomposed material.

this had an additional cost implication of n10m on a project with a 80m budget.

none of our plans had envisaged this. so our HOD had to go back to management for a project review.

on another project where we started construction and then were informed that the land leased for the project had been taken over in a court case. we had to spend the next 3 months engaging the family who owned the land before work could resume

based on what fashola said - in a buhari type admin that is where the project will die. the people managing at that level need support of oga, who has hands off

it also explains why fashola was not able to achieve much. i had discussed stakeholder management earlier - where your boss is running interference for you with stakeholders who can kill your project.

it is also why we have such a mess in NNPC and why no one was punished.

unless you are in a perfect system - things rarely work out as planned. my old boss used to say - if things worked like clockwork - we wouldn't be needed

raumdeuter:

Difference between Buhari and Tinubu in Coaching terms: Buhari (LVG) Tinubu (PEP)
Buhari never interfere with Ministry for 8 years- Fashola
This explains a lot of things that happens under Buhari's Administration pic.twitter.com/DJyy0KMkKJ

— Imran Muhammad (@Imranmuhdz) April 16, 2023

Buhari vs Tinubu

Buhari is Onigbinde

nihilistjnr:
My take on this discussion is that Feminists tend to have logical points at the core of their arguments, but then they dial everything up to 11 and use their extremity to distort what should be a practical common sense position.

The simple truth is this - males and females attain their peaks inversely proportionally to their age.

This simple fact is what any aspiring feminist should bear in mind when making ANY feminist argument.

A 23-25 year old woman is at the peak of her physical beauty. From 26, its all downhill. When she hits 30, she only has a few child bearing years left. The pool of men she can typically attract from 30 is a lot smaller than it was 5 years prior, because guys younger than her are typically looking for their age mates, and guys older than her are either already married, or looking for girls younger than her.

A 23 year old man is probably at the peak of his broke stage - he just graduated from uni, maybe started his first job still living at home etc. He starts to get comfortable enough to get married around 27-28, and will typically begin to really begin to reap the financial fruit of his career labours around 33 years old.

A 33 year old mam with money to burn is typically not looking for his age mate. He is looking for the girls he could not afford to be with in his peak physical years in his early to mid twenties.

Another thing is that women really tend to date and marry up, rather than down. Most women who are doing well tend to get with a man who is doing better than them, rather than worse. This presents an interesting challenge for the career driven woman, who at age 30 and above, soon finds herself in a situation where all the available men who are doing better than her, are looking for young talent, forcing her to consider dating down.

It is only when a woman gets to this age, and continues to brag about being unable to cook, and is not Kim Kardashian, that I would be interested in listening to her argument.

Until then, enjoy yourself

You are talking about the undefeated wall.

BlueRayDick:
The bold is the reason why some randy lecturers dey prey on female students when we dey school . Most of them were bookworm with zero social life during their days as undergrads and couldn’t afford to keep relationship(s).

As soon as they graduate with good grades ( mostly first class) , they get free masters and automatic job and start earning money….. they quickly marry any girl they fall for and then later regret it when they start making more money . They start preying on their female students and won’t even hesitate to deal with her boyfriend if they find out he’s also a student .

Those guys, bunch of pussy-niggas!

Why the beef na? You and lecturer dey drag babe?

afrodoc2:
You are talking about the undefeated wall.

just googled this

GloriousGbola:
just googled this

It is what it is.

afrodoc2:
You are talking about the undefeated wall.

Na only Kim Kardashian fit defeat the wall walahi...and she get big nyash...and she's a billionaire.

As una no give it attention did it crawl back or not?
Did anyone die?

Ndi imo

Lekwanu AGU otu aka wey wan challenge hopeless hope

Oga adikwa kpokpo

"No Human Being can change the will of Imo people again; not while I am on the ballot" ~ Sen Athan Achonu

Me: Hope Uzodima days are numbered pic.twitter.com/HZlYcDr4Wh

— JACK The Builder™ (@Jack_ng01) April 16, 2023

iamoyindamola:
As una no give it attention did it crawl back or not?
Did anyone die?

Lol. It justs needs a reference. Doesn't need to be direct sef.