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I'm sorry bro I can't help you. Sincerely Seek for God's divine intervention in your life and enjoy what you might have been missing ever since you gone astray. God answers prayers if you're sincere with yourself

Kobojunkiee:
1. Stop deceiving yourself! If the Words of the God whom you claim to believe in mean absolutely nothing to you then all you are doing is spreading lies using His name.

Nawttiboi007:
■ I'm sorry bro I can't help you. Sincerely Seek for God's divine intervention in your life and enjoy what you might have been missing ever since you gone astray. God answers prayers if you're sincere with yourself

1. This conversation revealed that you don't trust or believe in God since His Words mean nothing to you as is obvious from your continued assertion that He answers prayers when He said instead He only answers the prayers of the righteous. Your claim is that God is a liar since according to you He answers the prayers of the sincere and not really the righteous as proclaimed by Him in scripture.

So, the help you continue to prescribe, you need it more.

DeepSight:
It appears you chose to completely ignore my words where I said... "Taken on its own, aside from being part of a compendium of books put together at a later date by the Church, and called the Bible...."

Much of what we know and accept of history comes from simple ancient writings. I still don't see grounds to dismiss all the writings about Jesus simply on the grounds that they are religious. In this pls note that there are hundreds of writings about him, only four were chosen by the church and made canonical.

The writing about him,are they not hearsay,which of their statement about Jesus can be easily verified and considered true? which have been proven to be true?🤷‍♂️🤣
How does writing about Jesus prove that he existed? 🤷‍♂️
How's the bible an historical ancient writing that should be taken to heart without evidence,is it verifiable,I mean the stories🤷‍♂️. Has it been historically proven to be right?
A book is historically accurate if it is based on documented historical events and/or is supported by archaeological evidence. The Bible does not belong to that category because it is not historically accurate. Although it contains some events, it also contains many myths and legends that are not supported by evidence.

There is no archaeological evidence to support Jesus existence. There are no records of him from any secular historical sources. The only sources of information about Jesus are from religious texts, which are not considered reliable sources of information. There are also many contradictions in the stories about Jesus in the different religious texts.

Another thing is that the stories about him are very similar to the stories about other mythical figures, such as Osiris, Horus, Mithras, and Dionysus. Many of these stories originated in pre-Christian cultures, which means that it is more likely that the stories about Jesus were created by people who were familiar with these myths.
What exactly are you trying to assert? 😆

jaephoenix:
Can you point me to the source of these writings?

There are many writings about Jesus left out of the Bible.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Gospels

Wagwanbrethren:
The writing about him,are they not hearsay,which of their statement about Jesus can be easily verified and considered true? which have been proven to be true?🤷‍♂️🤣
How does writing about Jesus prove that he existed? 🤷‍♂️
How's the bible an historical ancient writing that should be taken to heart without evidence,is it verifiable,I mean the stories🤷‍♂️. Has it been historically proven to be right?
A book is historically accurate if it is based on documented historical events and/or is supported by archaeological evidence. The Bible does not belong to that category because it is not historically accurate. Although it contains some events, it also contains many myths and legends that are not supported by evidence.

There is no archaeological evidence to support Jesus existence. There are no records of him from any secular historical sources. The only sources of information about Jesus are from religious texts, which are not considered reliable sources of information. There are also many contradictions in the stories about Jesus in the different religious texts.

Another thing is that the stories about him are very similar to the stories about other mythical figures, such as Osiris, Horus, Mithras, and Dionysus. Many of these stories originated in pre-Christian cultures, which means that it is more likely that the stories about Jesus were created by people who were familiar with these myths.
What exactly are you trying to assert? 😆

1. I doubt you can support a claim that all accepted history is only from writers who personally witnessed the recorded events.

2. Last paragraph, I accept. There are indeed many similarities with other myths.

don't be so overwhelmed with ur sentimental mindset, coming to God in sincerity mean you're seeking for true repentance of ur sins through christ that died on the cross of cavalry, he will definitely hear ur plea(prayers)what is it that u don't understand??

Kobojunkiee:
1. This conversation revealed that you don't trust or believe in God since His Words mean nothing to you as is obvious from your continued assertion that He answers prayers when He said instead He only answers the prayers of the righteous. Your claim is that God is a liar since according to you He answers the prayers of the sincere and not really the righteous as proclaimed by Him in scripture.

So, the help you continue to prescribe, you need it more.

Nawttiboi007:
■ don't be so overwhelmed with sentimental mindset, coming to God in sincerity mean you're seeking for true repentance of ur sins through christ that died on the cross of cavalry, he will definitely hear ur plea(prayers)what visit that u don't understand??

1. Here you continue to call God who said He only answers the prayers of the righteous a liar. Your problem is much since you claim to believe in a God whose very Words mean absolutely nothing to you as you cast Him as nothing but a liar with every word out of you.

Guy u r dumb or probably needs psychological help.. seek it from the right place.. Bye

Kobojunkiee:
1. Here you continue to call God who instead said He only answers the prayers of the righteous a liar. Your problem is much since you claim to believe in a God whose very Words mean absolutely nothing to you since you believe Him a liar.

DeepSight:
1. I doubt you can support a claim that all accepted history is only from writers who personally witnessed the recorded events.

2. Last paragraph, I accept. There are indeed many similarities with other myths.

1)We have primary source,and secondary source. A primary source is a firsthand account of an event. A secondary source is an account of an event that is based on a primary source.

The Bible cannot be accepted as a primary source of Jesus history because it is a compilation of stories and traditions passed down over many years. Furthermore, the Bible was not written until century/centuries after Jesus' death, and therefore contains many inaccuracies and embellishments. Also, there are a few reasons why something can be considered history when the writer of that piece didn't personally witness the event. One is that history can be based on eyewitness testimony, as long as there is a reasonable level of corroboration. Another is that history can be based on documents or other physical evidence that is still extant. Finally, history can be based on the reconstruction of events by historians, even if they didn't witness those events firsthand.

The Bible cannot be considered an historical book for several reasons. First, it is a religious text, not a history book. Second, it is not based on eyewitness testimony or other documentary evidence, but rather on religious belief. Finally, it has been extensively edited and rewritten over the centuries, so it is not even clear what the original text actually said. You get, son?

Nawttiboi007:
Guy u r dumb or probably needs psychological help.. seek it from the right place.. Bye

○ You are the one who keeps rejecting God's very own declarations through His Prophets stating that He does not answer the prayers of the unrighteous, yet you think I am the one in need of help here?

○ Even Jesus Christ said, "seek first the Kingdom of God(holiness), and God's righteousness, and then all these things shall be added onto you", making clear that none of the benefits of God (including answers to prayers) will be available to you until after you have found God's righteousness. But you say all that doesn't mean anything to you even as you continue to proclaim belief in Jesus Christ, yet you think I am the one who needs help here??

History is full of those who spoke like this and they are dead yet the truth of Jesus lives on. Some of the comment here are hilarious When you re young you think you know something, always you are not the first.

RefugeGround1:
History is full of those who spoke like this and they are dead yet the truth of Jesus lives on. Some of the comment here are hilarious When you re young you think you know something, always you are not the first.

A truth that even those of the religion of Christianity utterly reject as they would rather cling to the doctrines and traditions --- delusions--- of their popes, pastors, GBs, mogs, etc., right? For instance, the reason the one in the OP video sees prayer as a waste of time has to do with the fact that she had been fed lies to decieve her into believing God answers all prayers said to Him when God instead said He only answers the prayers of the Righteous; God does not answer the prayers of the unrighteous.

Make I help u small, be you Christian or Muslim etc they're ways to cleanse ur self to be worthy before God almighty, my belief is chritianity and you can be cleanse from ur inequities if u seek for forgiveness through christ that shed his blood on the cross of calvary, old things are washed and passed away which makes you righteous and worthy of Gods presence. So my take still remain that regardless of your religion if you seek him through the right source, he answers prayer

Kobojunkiee:
○ You are the one who keeps rejecting God's very own declarations through His Prophets stating that He does not answer the prayers of the unrighteous, yet you think I am the one in need of help here?

○ Even Jesus Christ said, "seek first the Kingdom of God(holiness), and God's righteousness, and then all these things shall be added onto you", making clear that none of the benefits of God (including answers to prayers) will be available to you until after you have found God's righteousness. But you say all that doesn't mean anything to you even as you continue to proclaim belief in Jesus Christ, yet you think I am the one who needs help here??

Wagwanbrethren:
1)We have primary source,and secondary source. A primary source is a firsthand account of an event. A secondary source is an account of an event that is based on a primary source.

The Bible cannot be accepted as a primary source of Jesus history because it is a compilation of stories and traditions passed down over many years. Furthermore, the Bible was not written until century/centuries after Jesus' death, and therefore contains many inaccuracies and embellishments. Also, there are a few reasons why something can be considered history when the writer of that piece didn't personally witness the event. One is that history can be based on eyewitness testimony, as long as there is a reasonable level of corroboration. Another is that history can be based on documents or other physical evidence that is still extant. Finally, history can be based on the reconstruction of events by historians, even if they didn't witness those events firsthand.

The Bible cannot be considered an historical book for several reasons. First, it is a religious text, not a history book. Second, it is not based on eyewitness testimony or other documentary evidence, but rather on religious belief. Finally, it has been extensively edited and rewritten over the centuries, so it is not even clear what the original text actually said. You get, son?

If you insist on referring to "the Bible" when i have repeatedly said i am not considering it as a singular work, then this conversation may have failed.

Nawttiboi007:
■ Make I help u small, be you Christian or Muslim etc there ways to cleanse ur self to be worthy before God almighty, my belief is chritianity and you can be cleanse from ur inequities if u seek for forgiveness through christ that shed his blood on the cross of calvary, old things are washed and passed away
■ which makes you righteous as and worthy of Gods presence. So my take still remain that regardless of your religion if you seek him through the right right source, he answers prayer

1. These ramblings of yours make no sense since they aren't based on any of that stated in scripture. Clearly, your religions is built on a foundation of lies !

2. There you go again, for the umpteenth time today, casting God and Jesus Christ as liars, when in fact you don't even believe not trust in their Truth but in the many lies and delusions fed to you by your pastors and mogs, your gods of choice.

Oh now I see .. this is getting clearer, you're a Muslim hello abeg enjoy ur belief ok all I'm about is that there's only one true God and he answers my prayers.. so the rest is left for u that's ur palava.. enjoy the rest of ur life with Allah and Mohammed just as I am with God almighty and Jesus christ

Kobojunkiee:
1. These ramblings of yours make no sense since they aren't based on any of that stated in scripture. Clearly, your religions is built on a foundation of lies !

2. There you go again, for the umpteenth time today, casting God and Jesus Christ as liars, when in fact you don't even believe not trust in their Truth but in the many lies and delusions fed to you by your pastors and mogs, your gods of choice.

Nawttiboi007:
■ Oh now I see .. this is getting clearer, you're a Muslim hello abeg enjoy ur belief ok all I'm about is that there's only one true God and he answers my prayers.. so the rest is left for u that's ur palava.. enjoy the rest of ur life with Allah and Mohammed just as I am with God almighty and Jesus christ

1. Lol.. you are truly a typical churchian. When your falsehood is brought to light, in the fashion of the Pharisees before your kind, you immediately look to shoot the messenger in an effort to discredit the message. The pharisees called Jesus Christ a demon so I am not shocked you now comfortably call me a Muslim all so you can pretend to save face after your lack of trust in God and Jesus Christ has been called out.

Anyone going through our convo from initials would have seen who's more sensible btw us. na only God fit help u Guy

Kobojunkiee:
1. Lol.. you are truly a typical churchian. When your falsehood is brought to light, in the fashion of the Pharisees before your kind, you immediately look to shoot the messenger in an effort to discredit the message. The pharisees called Jesus Christ a demon so I am not shocked you now comfortably call me a Muslim all so you can pretend to save face after your lack of trust in God and Jesus Christ has been called out.

Nawttiboi007:
Anyone going through our convo from initials would have see who's more sensible btw us. na only God fit help u Guy

I am not looking to be sensible but blatant with the fact that you don't serve God or Jesus Christ. Rather you serve the lies fed you about God and Jesus Christ instead. How else do you explain the fact that most everything you have said of God and Jesus Christ are not as written in scripture.

I won't say God help you since your gods happen to be your pastors and mogs, men you bow your existence to.

DeepSight:
If you insist on referring to "the Bible" when i have repeatedly said i am not considering it as a singular work, then this conversation may have failed.

Where did I consider it a single work? 🤷‍♂️

Wagwanbrethren:
Where did I consider it a single work? 🤷‍♂️

Seriously?

DeepSight:
Seriously?

Mtcheww! 😕

John 8 vs 31-36 that u quoted where's it written that God doesn't answer the prayers of the unrighteous even if they plea for forgiveness??

Kobojunkiee:
I am not looking to be sensible but blatant with the fact that you don't serve God or Jesus Christ. Rather you serve the lies fed you about God and Jesus Christ instead. How else do you explain the fact that most everything you have said of God and Jesus Christ are not as written in scripture.

I won't say God help you since your gods happen to be your pastors and mogs, men you bow your existence to.

Prayer means sacrifice....Not some mumbo jumbo...
God is not a man or human being. So you can't communicate with God the way you communicate with human being. The only way to communicate with God is through an oracle....any other way is a bleeping was of time...

As for jesus, even the pope's know he is not real. Pope Pius X is on record to have said ..

Nawttiboi007:
John 8 vs 31-36 that u quoted where's it written that God doesn't answer the prayers of the unrighteous even if they plea for forgiveness??

Stop feigning ignorance of what I infact stated in regard to that passages abeg!

Kobojunkiee:
https://www.nairaland.com/7110397/gospel-minddump/3#122064044

2. Christ died in order that you may have a path to redemption from your sins --- freedom from slavery to sin--- through Knowing Him, God's Truth, and as He said it is only through continuous submission and obedience to His teachings and commandments that you are eventually set free from slavery to sin I.e. made Holy by Him, God's Truth to become a Son of God - John 8 vs 31 - 36 . No amount of praying will cause God to forgive you your sin debts.

Bros ur mumu na grade 1

Kobojunkiee:
Stop feigning ignorance of what I infact stated in regard to that passages abeg!

Nawttiboi007:
Bros ur mumu na grade 1

Well, I am at least not the mumu who worships men( pastors and mogs) all the while hiding that very fact behind the many mentions of the name of a God whose Truth I care absolutely nothing for.

Well I've not stated anywhere that I worship man but God almighty whom I said answers my own prayers until you brought up ur righteous and unrighteous syndrome.. then I made it clear to you that through repentance of ur sins through christ that died on the cross of calvary u r worthy to seek God. So I can't really place what you're suffering from

Kobojunkiee:
Well, I am at least not the mumu who worships men( pastors and mogs) all the while hiding that very fact behind the many mentions of the name of a God whose Truth I care absolutely nothing for.

Nawttiboi007:
■ Well I've not stated anywhere that I worship man
■ but God almighty whom I said answers my own prayers until you brought up ur righteous and unrighteous syndrome..
■ then I made it clear to you that through repentance of ur sins through christ that died on the cross of calvary u r worthy to seek God. So I can't really place what you're suffering from

1. You spew the doctrines and traditions of men(your pastors and mogs) in place of God's word, which you completely reject as falsehood, what do you think you worship then?

2. You cast God who made clear that He does not answer the prayers of the unrighteous as a liar with every claim you make mentioning His name, and you think you would be mistaken as one who worships Him? Come on!

3. Jesus Christ said, "seek first the Kingdom of God(holiness) and God's Righteousness, so that all these things (benefits of the Kingdom of God including answers to prayers), shall be added onto you", bit you refuse that in your urge to claim Jesus Christ a way around God's very own declaration. You pitch Jesus Christ against God, yet you think you would be mistaken for one who worships Him? Come on!

Only God knows who truly worships him not your hypocrisy

Kobojunkiee:
1. You spew the doctrines and traditions of men(your pastors and mogs) in place of God's word, which you completely reject as falsehood, what do you think you worship then?

2. You cast God who made clear that He does not answer the prayers of the unrighteous as a liar with every claim you make mentioning His name, and you think you would be mistaken as one who worships Him? Come on!

3. Jesus Christ said, "seek first the Kingdom of God(holiness) and God's Righteousness, so that all these things (benefits of the Kingdom of God including answers to prayers), shall be added onto you", bit you refuse that in your urge to claim Jesus Christ a way around God's very own declaration. You pitch Jesus Christ against God, yet you think you would be mistaken for one who worships Him? Come on!

Nawttiboi007:
■ Only God knows who truly worships him not your hypocrisy

1. Only God throughly knows that even after Jesus Christ revealed that by their fruits you shall know them meaning those who worship Him are able to know those who truly belong to Him?

Again, you continue casting God as a liar!

You're entitle to ur perspective as for me Prayers truly works.. my take is that be careful so you don't face his wrath

Kobojunkiee:
1. Only God throughly knows that even after Jesus Christ revealed that by their fruits you shall know them meaning those who worship Him are able to know those who truly belong to Him?

Again, you continue casting God as a liar!