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[color=royalblue]For heaven's sake, please let us pretend/accept that the North is not poor.

Abeg.

We have moved on from that.

Please, let us have some SpaceX news and commercials. It is very educating[/color]

monerozi5590:
Obi is an outsider. Obi is not a Northerner . A very important person like Obi. A presidential candidate should should be guided when it comes to issue like this.


These stereotypical territorialisations of crimes and negative stereotypes are often considered offensive when they are uttered by “outsiders” but tolerated, sometimes praised even, when they are uttered by “insiders.”

So only northerners can talk about the poverty and disease ravaging the north? Your people litters the South as beggars, those who are even doing business do so it very dirty terrible environment (Alaba Rago for example), but only northerners should call out the poverty, insecurity and other vices ravaging the north? One Nigeria indeed

monerozi5590:
Nobody is doing comparison here. My point is that no one likes poverty.

The same way you are angry about the statistics is the same way we are angry at Obi for calling us poor.

Actually you should be apologising for falling sucker for a stat that any Primary 3 student who has learned numerator and denominator will immediately throw in the bin. For the same reason, SE has the highest number of rich people per square mile and the highest population density - the denominator (square miles) is too small comparative to other regions

Either that or you are being deliberately disingenuous

I blame Seun for employing poorly educated mods who send absolute drivel to front page.

[color=royalblue]The man who's moniker starts with I and ends with me

Easy [/color]

Ibime:
. For the same reason, SE has the highest number of rich people per square mile and the highest population density - the denominator (square miles) is too small comparative to other regions

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During close meeting this factoid is regularly thrown around. Nnewi apparently has the highest number or billionaires per square meter.

Ibime:
Actually you should be apologising for falling sucker for a stat that any Primary 3 student who has learned numerator and denominator will immediately throw in the bin. For the same reason, SE has the highest number of rich people per square mile and the highest population density - the denominator (square miles) is too small comparative to other regions

Either that or you are being deliberately disingenuous

I blame Seun for employing poorly educated mods who send absolute drivel to front page.

You ain't getting the point. No one is doing comparison. No one.

The point is, there is poverty everywhere in Nigeria.

I will never argue about statistics. Never.

Someone will come with another metric and it will be true.

Get the point Ibime.

GloriousGbola:
During close meeting this factoid is regularly thrown around. Nnewi apparently has the highest number or billionaires per square meter.

Nnewi does not have more billionaires per square metre than Lagos

Anything per square metre, Lagos is King whether no of poor, rich, old, senile, healthy, gays, heterosexual etc

It even has more Muslims per square metre than Kano

TrebleChamp:
So only northerners can talk about the poverty and disease ravaging the north? Your people litters the South as beggars, those who are even doing business do so it very dirty terrible environment (Alaba Rago for example), but only northerners should call out the poverty, insecurity and other vices ravaging the north? One Nigeria indeed

Call out the your region first. Charity start at home.

Call out all the negative vices in your region. Start from here.

Selling Babies to feed. Baby factory and all. There are many.

House help maltreatment.

monerozi5590:
You ain't getting the point. No one is doing comparison. No one.

The point is, there is poverty everywhere in Nigeria.

I will never argue about statistics. Never.

Someone will come with another metric and it will be true.

Get the point Ibime.

That means you are being disingenuous to drive home a point which is even worse

Why use disingenuous stat to push back on Obi. Intellectual dishonesty is the death of a nation.

Ibime:
That means you are being disingenuous to drive home a point which is even worse

Why use disingenuous stat to push back on Obi. Intellectual dishonesty is the death of a nation.

Statistics is there for everyone. Under him as governor, poverty level increased in Anambra

How can he possibly Pull our children out of poverty? When he couldn't do it as governor of Anambra State.

If there's is any intellectual dishonesty here, I think the fingers should be pointing at Obi.


Not all children of the North are poor. Just like not everyone in Benin that's doing child trafficking.

monerozi5590:
Call out the your region first. Charity start at home.

Call out all the negative vices in your region. Start from here.

Selling Babies to feed. Baby factory and all. There are many.

House help maltreatment.

I knew it!!!!!You have finally exposed the bias I was worried about.

The SE issues you raised are being discussed on the daily here...On this thread, IPOB, baby factory, a lack of good leadership and other issues have been discussed and no Igbo man has ran away from our issues! If you follow my posts closely you will see much I berate the efulefus (politicians) we have in Igbo land. You will read Izzou call out IPOB just like I do and other Igbo sons owning our issues, so what's the deal? I am always swearing for them and the violence they have brought to my region in the name of Biafra/ emancipation.

Few pages ago @Larride was open in accepting that Lagos and by extension his region is struggling with Agberoism, does that mean other parts of the country don't have thugs and agberos? He just accepts that it has becomes a serious problem and that is what we need as a nation! Stop this emotional blackmail.

monerozi5590:
Call out the your region first. Charity start at home.

Call out all the negative vices in your region. Start from here.

Selling Babies to feed. Baby factory and all. There are many.

House help maltreatment.

If you call all this out as a Nigerian, nobody will arrest you for doing so. And nobody will even attack you for saying the South has issues, this is the difference between Southerners and Northerners. Sanusi spoke the truth about the plenty problems in the North, and he was deposed as Emir by Ganduje with support from Northern elite who weren't happy with his action. Nigerians problem must be discussed by all Nigerians.....

monerozi5590:
Statistics is there for everyone. Under him as governor, poverty level increased in Anambra

How can he possibly Pull our children out of poverty? When he couldn't do it as governor of Anambra State.

If there's is any intellectual dishonesty here, I think the fingers should be pointing at Obi.


Not all children of the North are poor. Just like not everyone in Benin that's doing child trafficking.

It's a simple thing, what percentage of a regions population is below poverty line as opposed to other regions. That proves the fact of what he said or disproves it.

Wetin carry square metres enter? Are you doing apportionment of rent or pricing real Estate?

In civilised countries, the poorer regions like to shout how poor they are so Govt will allocate them more resources. In UK here, the Govt has Northern Powerhouse drive to bring the North up to the economic level of the South, and the Northerners will take every opportunity to remind them of the economic disparity so they can do more. It's only in Naija that poor man will be raising shoulder instead of using the opportunity to collect.

Roland17:
I knew it!!!!!You have finally exposed the bias I was worried about.

The SE issues you raised are being discussed on the daily here...On this thread, IPOB, baby factory, a lack of good leadership and other issues have been discussed and no Igbo man has ran away from our issues! If you follow my posts closely you will see much I berate the efulefus (politicians) we have in Igbo land. You will read Izzou call out IPOB just like I do and other Igbo sons owning our issues, so what's the deal? I am always swearing for them and the violence they have brought to my region in the name of Biafra/ emancipation.

Few pages ago @Larride was open in accepting that Lagos and by extension his region is struggling with Agberoism, does that mean other parts of the country don't have thugs and agberos? He just accepts that it has becomes a serious problem and that is what we need as a nation! Stop this emotional blackmail.

I also called out our problems. I did.

My issue is with Obi' statement.

Almajiri and giving birth beyond your capacity. I did.


Every region has her own problems but you don't rub it on our faces like Obi did.

Ibime:
It's a simple thing, what percentage of SE population is below poverty line as opposed to other regions. That proves the fact of what he said or disproves it.

Wetin carry square metres enter? Are you doing apportionment of rent or pricing real Estate?

In civilised countries, the poorer regions like to shout how poor they are so Govt will allocate them more resources. In UK here, the Govt has Northern Powerhouse drive to bring the North up to the economic level of the South, and the Northerners will take every opportunity to remind them of the economic disparity so they can do more. It's only in Naija that poor man will be raising shoulder instead of using the opportunity to collect.

We are using it to collect. Northerners are using it to cash out. I have said it here before. May be you didn't follow the argument. Northerners have said it many times. They are cashing out. UKAid and USAID.


I am not arguing the poverty level in the North but the way Obi put it. That has been my argument ever since.

monerozi5590:
Statistics is there for everyone. Under him as governor, poverty level increased in Anambra

How can he possibly Pull our children out of poverty? When he couldn't do it as governor of Anambra State.

If there's is any intellectual dishonesty here, I think the fingers should be pointing at Obi.


Not all children of the North are poor. Just like not everyone in Benin that's doing child trafficking.

Lol. Obi did not claim that all Northern children are poor na.

Obi should have just avoided this minefield with a more palatable statement. At least for political expediency.

afrodoc2:
Lol. Obi did not claim that all Northern children are poor na.

Obi should have just avoided this minefield with a more palatable statement. At least for political expediency.

He said it bro. If you want I can send you the video sir. He said it in Borno State.

[color=royalblue]The funniest part of this dishonest talk is that Obi is not even the president. He is not responsible to remove or reduce poverty anywhere.

As at 2020, 87% of our Poverty rate was from the North. This is 5 years into the tenure of a Northern president. You are not pissed that Buhari took you from a bad level to a worse one.

I am happy Obi did not apologise. Keep trolling him with the SE, as if he was responsible for it at any point

After 4 years, we would measure our poverty progress by what Tinubu did, and not Obi

Till then, Obi said he will rescue Nigeria from Poverty, especially the North[/color]

A man with gun is a very powerful man so also a group of people with gun.

Revolution is never a good thing. Not in recent times.

Al Bashir armed a group of people for his interest.

The same group of people and the military came together to forcefully removed him.

Now, the military and this armed group in disagreement on who should take the control of the country.

Friends for a common goals now turned enemies for power control


Military vs armed group fighting in Sudan. Everything is now in chaos.

monerozi5590:
He said it bro. If you want I can send you the video sir. He said it in Borno State.

Pls send the video

izzou:
[color=royalblue]The funniest part of this dishonest talk is that Obi is not even the president. He is not responsible to remove or reduce poverty anywhere.

As at 2020, 87% of our Poverty rate was from the North. This is 5 years into the tenure of a Northern president. You are not pissed that Buhari took you from a bad level to a worse one.

I am happy Obi did not apologise. Keep trolling him with the SE, as if he was responsible for it at any point

After 4 years, we would measure our poverty progress by what Tinubu did, and not Obi

Till then, Obi said he will rescue Nigeria from Poverty, especially the North[/color]

It’s like u don’t understand ….. the guy obvioulsy wants the north “pulled out of poverty “ by anybody but Obi.

He’s comfortable with World bank publishing stats that portray the north as poor and the north getting funds from USAID and other international organizations .

He’s comfortable with NBS publishing stats that portrays the north as poor and the federal government of Nigeria planning on how to channel anchor borrowers for farmers and other social intervention for the north .

But the moment Obi talks about the poverty in the north and mentioning doing everything possible if elected to better the lives of northerners , it becomes an issue .

The thing bias does to people ehn.

afrodoc2:
Pls send the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GEWZc9eg_Y


Even when he visited the Shehu of Borno Palace and was shouting poverty poverty. The Shehu of Borno told him ""our biggest problem is insecurity, job creation and all "

izzou:
[color=royalblue]The funniest part of this dishonest talk is that Obi is not even the president. He is not responsible to remove or reduce poverty anywhere.

As at 2020, 87% of our Poverty rate was from the North. This is 5 years into the tenure of a Northern president. You are not pissed that Buhari took you from a bad level to a worse one.

I am happy Obi did not apologise. Keep trolling him with the SE, as if he was responsible for it at any point

After 4 years, we would measure our poverty progress by what Tinubu did, and not Obi

Till then, Obi said he will rescue Nigeria from Poverty, especially the North[/color]

The bolded is the hypocrisy of that dude for me, and reason i don't even comment on his many irrational argument here..

BlueRayDick:
It’s like u don’t understand ….. the guy obvioulsy wants the north “pulled out of poverty “ by anybody but Obi.

He’s comfortable with World bank publishing stats that portray the north poor and the north getting funds from USAID and other international organizations .

He’s comfortable with NBS publishing stats that portrays the north poor and the federal government of Nigeria planning on how channel anchor borrowers for farmers and other social intervention for the north .

But the moment Obi talks about the poverty in the north and mentioning doing everything possible if elected to better the lives of northerners , it becomes an issue .

The thing bias does to people ehn.

The funny thing about the issue was/is he loved Obi and wanted him to win maybe due to Obi's plan till he claimed to read a thread that was shared by raumdeuter ....


You see why human are created to be feared.?

Fear north not

BlueRayDick:
It’s like u don’t understand ….. the guy obvioulsy wants the north “pulled out of poverty “ by anybody but Obi.

He’s comfortable with World bank publishing stats that portray the north as poor and the north getting funds from USAID and other international organizations .

He’s comfortable with NBS publishing stats that portrays the north as poor and the federal government of Nigeria planning on how to channel anchor borrowers for farmers and other social intervention for the north .

But the moment Obi talks about the poverty in the north and mentioning doing everything possible if elected to better the lives of northerners , it becomes an issue .

The thing bias does to people ehn.

[color=royalblue]Someone wants to be president of Nigeria, but you don't want him to talk about every part of Nigeria.

Very funny people

If Obi says he will rescue the SE from poverty, you will still come back and tell us the bias there.
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Segedinho:
The funny thing about the issue was/is he loved Obi and wanted him to win maybe due to Obi's plan till he claimed to read a thread that was shared by raumdeuter ....


You see why human are created to be feared.?

Fear north not

[color=royalblue]So, you actually believed he wanted Obi?

I have 2 plots of land at Aso Rock; bring 50k per plot[/color]

Segedinho:
The funny thing about the issue was/is he loved Obi and wanted him to win maybe due to Obi's plan till he claimed to read a thread that was shared by raumdeute.r ....


You see why human are created to be feared.?

Fear north not

And u believe this ? 🤣🤣🤣

He say "we" are using it to cash out, like say he dey follow share the UNAIDS money 😁. Dude is celebrating his political leaders using their people's lives to cash out....

TrebleChamp:
The bolded is the hypocrisy of that dude for me, and reason i don't even comment on his many irrational argument here..

[color=royalblue]When that stat was shared here, i already knew it was going to be an own goal.

The sensible BATs saw it and ignored.

Like Ibime said, if you say the SE has the highest poor people per mile, it also means they have the richest people per mile.

Na simple Nursery 2 maths. But Oga quickly jumped on it to show the hypocrisy again[/color]

TrebleChamp:
He say "we" are using it to cash out, like say he dey follow share the UNAIDS money 😁. Dude is celebrating his political leader using their people's lives to cash out....

[color=royalblue]The biggest losers in election are the people; I mean all of us here.

How people can't see that till today, baffles me[/color]

izzou:
[color=royalblue]So, you actually believed he wanted Obi?

I have 2 plots of land at Aso Rock; bring 50k per plot[/color]

Me believe qua....

Go back to when I engaged him of being a mole and a useless one to start with....


I even asked him who he was deceiving?...but his tenacity made me remember one of my 17yr old fulani friend.....

Till now..I don't believe there is anything good from a fulani boy/man in extention the north cos the lil trust I had was shattered ...still working on my view of them though...

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Someone wants to be president of Nigeria, but you don't want him to talk about every part of Nigeria.

Very funny people

If Obi says he will rescue the SE from poverty, you will still come back and tell us the bias there.
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It’s just a case of if u don’t like a person , u will always find fault in his actions and even inactions. If he speaks wahala, if he doesn’t na the same thing .

The funny thing is the people Obi was campaigning to who are northerners themselves didn’t have a problem with what he said to them