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Re: A Message To The Tribal Warlords by Houseontherock1: 3:08pm On May 06, 2023
Poor attempt at ridiculing the Yorubas. You have just confirmed your hatred for the Yorubas in one single post. Ride on, I hope it fetches you some dough undecided
Re: A Message To The Tribal Warlords by Nobody: 3:17pm On May 06, 2023
Nobody should be proud of his origine. Nobody should be ashamed of his origine. We should all consider ourselves as individual human beings and appreciate history like what it is: the lives of our ancestors.
Now we make our today and we get proud of what we do right and ashamed of what we do wrong and treat every human being with love and compassion irrespective of origin.
Re: A Message To The Tribal Warlords by flokii: 3:19pm On May 06, 2023
@OP Take your message back home to your kiths and kins and warn them on the dangers of tribalism.. ordinary election that candidates were winning in other regions, South East couldn't hide their clannishness. Even after losing woefully, they won't still let others rest with their ethnic bigotry.

I thought GEJ and his Igbo backbone were busy sacking Yorubas anyhow from Govt. agencies and parastatals and replacing them with Igbos.. you people should come and do all that now.

I don't think you know that SE is politically finished in Nigeria.. y'all nailed your political coffin in the february 2023 election.
Re: A Message To The Tribal Warlords by Nobody:
You guys got elections wrong.
It is not a "tribe" which is being elected, but the first civil servant, elect somebody good irrespective of origine.
You guys in Nigeria seem to live in zn other planet.
Re: A Message To The Tribal Warlords by Vado2(op): 7:49pm On May 06, 2023
Xbox2005:
For you to mention only Yoruba it means either you are being jeolous or trying to cause unnecessary division with your thread.An average Nigerians are tribalist.so forget it
A typical Nigerian may exhibit some tribalism, but the Yoruba people exhibit the greatest tribalism I have ever witnessed in my life.

When Israel won his belts a few weeks ago, you should have seen how you guys gave it a tribal flavor. A lot of Yoruba bigots started threads and kept the topic trending on Twitter (Yoruba blah blah, Yoruba Flair, gboye gboye). (Even using it to insult GRV) No other tribe had ever carried out such an action.

We've seen famous athletes accomplish incredible things, but you'll never see them add a tribal flair or Yoruba showmanship or have their tribe members choose it and make it a thing. The Mikel Obis, the Vincent Enyeama, the JJ Okocha, the Nwakwo Kanu, and the Samuel Peter all originated from their respective tribes but they had rather promote Nigeria other than their respective tribes.

Many of the earliest generation of Nigerian comedians had their roots in Benin since the city helped them, although Edo people seldom make a fuss about it.

Simply because Sabinus cracked a joke about Asiwaju during the election, many tribal bigots gave it color and began unfollowing him, even threatening to have him never again set foot in Lagos. We can go on and on!
Re: A Message To The Tribal Warlords by Nobody:
Vado2:
A typical Nigerian may exhibit some tribalism, but the Yoruba people exhibit the greatest tribalism I have ever witnessed in my life.

When Israel won his belts a few weeks ago, you should have seen how you guys gave it a tribal flavor. A lot of Yoruba bigots started threads and kept the topic trending on Twitter (Yoruba blah blah, Yoruba Flair, gboye gboye). (Even using it to insult GRV) No other tribe had ever carried out such an action.

We've seen famous athletes accomplish incredible things, but you'll never see them add a tribal flair or Yoruba showmanship or have their tribe members choose it and make it a thing. The Mikel Obis, the Vincent Enyeama, the JJ Okocha, the Nwakwo Kanu, and the Samuel Peter all originated from their respective tribes but they had rather promote Nigeria other than their respective tribes.

Many of the earliest generation of Nigerian comedians had their roots in Benin since the city helped them, although Edo people seldom make a fuss about it.

Simply because Sabinus cracked a joke about Asiwaju during the election, many tribal bigots gave it color and began unfollowing him, even threatening to have him never again set foot in Lagos. We can go on and on!
To start with, Lagos is not "Yorubaland".
Most people in Lagos migrated there.
When the British took Lagos away from Benin by force, it was flooded with migrants, many of whom were local slaves and foreign (Brazilian) slaves who now call themselves Yoruba.
Let's just not forget these guys are migrants in Lagos.
So perhaps the tribal warlords can stop now...
Re: A Message To The Tribal Warlords by omohayek: 10:04am On May 07, 2023
Vado2:
I’m an objective thinker and I pen down my thoughts. Not here to massage anyones ego.
This statement is utterly worthless - even Hitler thought he was "an objective thinker". What puts the lie to your supposed "objectivity" is that you focused your entire post on Yorubas, even though most of the Yoruba comments you single out are made in mockery of the far, far more common "Igbo amaka" nonsense anytime someone of Igbo origin does anything even slightly notable anywhere in the world (except when it comes to crime, at which point the same people suddenly start insisting on "One Nigeria" thinking).

You wouldn't know what objectivity looked like if it came right up to you and slapped you in the face.
Re: A Message To The Tribal Warlords by DMerciful(m): 10:06am On May 07, 2023
There is nothing like SS, SE, SW, NC, NE, and NW in the constitution.
There is nothing like SS else there would have been NN!

Did you vote for Abacha? Where did a criminal like Abacha get his mandate and legitimacy from that made you say what he did must stand?
Vado2:
He created it, and it stood. Yes, there’s South South!
Re: A Message To The Tribal Warlords by omohayek: 10:08am On May 07, 2023
Ghostwon82221:
To start with, Lagos is not "Yorubaland".
Most people in Lagos migrated there.
When the British took Lagos away from Benin by force, it was flooded with migrants, many if whom were local slaves and foreign (Brazilian) slaves who now call themselves Yoruba.
Let's just not forget these guys are migrants in Lagos.
So perhaps the tribal warlords can stop now...
Another revisionist joker, here to tell those of us whose ancestors have been living in Lagos for 600 years that we are actually migrants because the Benin empire once extracted tolls from us. By that reckoning, all of your ancestors are nothing but slave migrants to what is still British land.

The cheek of someone like you pasting such historical balderdash while calling others "tribal warriors". You are the very definition of the bigoted tribalist ready to distort any fact and tell any lie to "big up" your own kinsmen while demeaning others you fear and envy.
Re: A Message To The Tribal Warlords by Nobody: 10:11am On May 07, 2023
DMerciful:
There is nothing like SS, SE, SW, NC, NE, and NW in the constitution.
There is nothing like SS else there would have been NN!

Did you vote for Abacha? Where did a criminal like Abacha get his mandate and legitimacy from that made you say what he did must stand?
Since when do geopolitical zones need to appear in the constitution in order to prove their existence ?

"There is nothing like SS else there would have been NN!
", this just shows you are not very bright. A geopolitical zone can be given whatever name, calling it "south-south" does not imply that there is a "north north". If you call your son "upper" it doesn't imply that someone else is called "downer".
Your ipob talking points need to be revamped.
Re: A Message To The Tribal Warlords by Nobody:
omohayek:
Another revisionist joker, here to tell those of us whose ancestors have been living in Lagos for 600 years that we are actually migrants because the Benin empire once extracted tolls from us. By that reckoning, all of your ancestors are nothing but slave migrants to what is still British land.

The cheek of someone like you pasting such historical balderdash while calling others "tribal warriors". You are the very definition of the bigoted tribalist ready to distort any fact and tell any lie to "big up" your own kinsmen while demeaning others you fear and envy.
1) did you witness your ancestors living in Lagos for 600 years ?
2) dude I'm only stating a fact, it was recorded that Lagos was being flooded by slaves when the British took over, the British who were in Lagos at the time wrote it down. The migration into Lagos continued well into the 1930's.
3) try and differentiate inconvenient facts from insults.
4) also notice that migration into Lagos went well beyond the 1930's, it is still ongoing today. Those who migrated before the 1930's somehow believe they are indigenous to the land and believe Benin empire was having their ancestors pay a toll.
5) in reality Lagos was part of Benin, the British took it away and it was flooded with migrants (mostly slaves until the 1930's)
Re: A Message To The Tribal Warlords by DMerciful(m): 10:16am On May 07, 2023
Again, The geopolitical zones are unconstitutional!

An illegitimate govt proposed it albeit unofficially.

Calling a region SS is f00lishness no matter the way you describe it. Show me any other country with a place as SS!
Ghostwon82221:
Since when do geopolitical zones need to appear in the constitution in order to prove their existence ?

"There is nothing like SS else there would have been NN!
", this just shows you are not very bright. A geopolitical zone can be given whatever name, calling it "south-south" does not imply that there is a "north north". If you call your son "upper" it doesn't imply that someone else is called "downer".
Your ioib talking points need to be revamped.
Re: A Message To The Tribal Warlords by omohayek: 12:35pm On May 07, 2023
Ghostwon82221:
1) did you witness your ancestors living in Lagos for 600 years ?
2) dude I'm only stating a fact, it was recorded that Lagos was being flooded by slaves when the British took over, the British who were in Lagos at the time wrote it down. The migration into Lagos continued well into the 1930's.
3) try and differentiate inconvenient facts from insults.
4) also notice that migration into Lagos went well beyond the 1930's, it is still ongoing today. Those who migrated before the 1930's somehow believe they are indigenous to the land and believe Benin empire was having their ancestors pay a toll.
5) in reality Lagos was part of Benin, the British took it away and it was flooded with migrants (mostly slaves until the 1930's)
It's nice to know that you are more than 600 years old, and can therefore tell me at first hand where my ancestors were. Meanwhile, here's a starting counterpoint to your distorted, self-serving excuse for "history".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awori_tribe
The settlement of the Awori clan is known to have preceded the establishment of Abeokuta as an Egba kingdom in 1832, as Ota, a foremost Awori kingdom's existence dated back several millenniums ago.[5]

Traditions are consistent about the presence of a distinct Yoruba sub-group around Lagos by about 1550 when the Benin Empire invaded the region of Lagos.
Ultimately, it doesn't matter how many lies tribalists cum historical "revisionists" like you paste on Nairaland or elsewhere, you aren't carrying Lagos anywhere, nor will it ever cease to be surrounded by other states also populated by the same Aworis, Egbas, Ijebus, Eguns, etc. No amount of wishing on your part can ever change these realities and their political consequences - as a certain Chinedu Rhodes-Vivour learned to his own cost, after having the nerve to pretend he was more of a "real Lagosian" than those of us whose ancestors have been here before Oronmiyan sent his son Eweka to begin Benin's current ruling dynasty. To that extent, even the period when Benin extracted tribute from the original Awori settlers of Lagos Island should still be considered Yoruba rulership, albeit indirectly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Benin
Re: A Message To The Tribal Warlords by Nobody: 12:44pm On May 07, 2023
omohayek:
It's nice to know that you are more than 600 years old, and can therefore tell me at first hand where my ancestors were. Meanwhile, here's a starting counterpoint to your distorted, self-serving excuse for "history".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awori_tribe


Ultimately, it doesn't matter how many lies tribalists cum historical "revisionists" like you paste on Nairaland or elsewhere, you aren't carrying Lagos anywhere, nor will it ever cease to be surrounded by other states also populated by the same Aworis, Egbas, Ijebus, Eguns, etc. No amount of wishing on your part can ever change these realities and their political consequences - as a certain Chinedu Rhodes-Vivour learned to his own cost, after having the nerve to pretend he was more of a "real Lagosian" than those of us whose ancestors have been here before Oronmiyan sent his son Eweka to begin Benin's current ruling dynasty. To that extent, even the period when Benin extracted tribute from the original Awori settlers of Lagos Island should still be considered Yoruba rulership, albeit indirectly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Benin
So you thought you were owning me by quoting Wikipedia?
How old are you ?
I'm quoting documents written by eyewitnesses whereas you are quoting Wikipedia written by some junkies whom are sleeping in the streets.

I'm not 600 years old, that is why I look at documents written 600 years ago by eyewitnesses! I don't look at Wikipedia which didn't exist back then and which is terrible on African history. As you seem to not know, Wikipedia is open source.

An other thing. Oranmiyan is actually a fairytale, not a person who actually existed. Oranmiyan can be compared with the likes of Batman, Spiderman and Superman. You casually bringing up oranmiyan while talking about history shows you don't understand history as a science, you are dwelling in fairytales. This is even worse than quoting Wikipedia for African history.
Re: A Message To The Tribal Warlords by Almaigaa: 1:43pm On May 07, 2023
Vado2:
I’m from the South-South, sorry!
Na LIE. You are Igbo. The way you write exposed you.
Re: A Message To The Tribal Warlords by amanda2013(f): 2:01pm On May 07, 2023
flokii:
@OP Take your message back home to your kiths and kins and warn them on the dangers of tribalism.. ordinary election that candidates were winning in other regions, South East couldn't hide their clannishness. Even after losing woefully, they won't still let others rest with their ethnic bigotry.

I thought GEJ and his Igbo backbone were busy sacking Yorubas anyhow from Govt. agencies and parastatals and replacing them with Igbos.. you people should come and do all that now.

I don't think you know that SE is politically finished in Nigeria.. y'all nailed your political coffin in the february 2023 election.
So Edo State is now in south east? The op specifically said he is from Edo yet you have to drag the south east just for what exactly? Oga abeg Practice what you preach.
Re: A Message To The Tribal Warlords by raskymonojendor: 2:05pm On May 07, 2023
Vado2:
The father of Oramiyan, founder of the Yoruba kingdom was from the great Bini kingdom. His name is Ekaladerhan, what you people call Oduduwa.
Omo ibo calling Benin "bini" grin
Re: A Message To The Tribal Warlords by Nobody:
amanda2013:
So Edo State is now in south east? The op specifically said he is from Edo yet you have to drag the south east just for what exactly? Oga abeg Practice what you preach.
The name is Edo-state, not Edo. Edo already has its own meaning (although most Nigerians make this mistake including the governor of Edo-state)
And the guy said he were from the south-south, he didn't precise which state of the south-south he claims to originate from.
Those calling him a south-easterner are only speculating, I don't see why he couldn't be from the south-south.
Anyways, it doesn't matter, you guys should stop overemphasizing people's origins.

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