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liveLongNprospa:
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GloriousGbola:
Obj spent most of his first term out of Nigeria chasing debt forgiveness and looking for investors.

We are talking about mines, about lithium - well it is foreign partners we can engage for this. The trains for lagos blue line were apparently gotten at bend down select price. There are other parts of our infrastructure where we can adopt the same strategy.

GloriousGbola:
Obj spent most of his first term out of Nigeria chasing debt forgiveness and looking for investors.

We are talking about mines, about lithium - well it is foreign partners we can engage for this. The trains for lagos blue line were apparently gotten at bend down select price. There are other parts of our infrastructure where we can adopt the same strategy.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Provide proof that OBJ spent MOST of his first term outside the country

And which term is Tinubu currently on?

I now believe you guys have pure love for BAT.

Because only love can make a man deny logic this way.

Someone came back from the same Europe and told his nation that he is back fully. Dance troupes went to welcome him at the airport

Then 2 weeks later, he jumps again to Europe to find investors . May 30th seems too far to wait.

Omoh, una dey try, walahi [/color]

GloriousGbola:
https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/more-news/254932-i-travelled-97-countries-president-obasanjo.html

Asking for proof that Obj was globetrotting is like asking for evidence that the sky is blue.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]This is not first term naa.

Abi you no read am?
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GloriousGbola:
Obj spent most of his first term out of Nigeria chasing debt forgiveness and looking for investors.

We are talking about mines, about lithium - well it is foreign partners we can engage for this. The trains for lagos blue line were apparently gotten at bend down select price. There are other parts of our infrastructure where we can adopt the same strategy.

GloriousGbola:
Remember all our talk about how Atiku tried to stab Obj in the back and end his presidency in his first term? This happened because Obj was out of the country. I can source more articles but you also know that our papers were not really online at that 2001 to 2006 timeframe

OasisX:


Why nah.... ain't you enjoying skits playing out these days on this board?

izzou:
[color=royalblue]I am not even dragging if OBJ travelled or not. I just find it funny that you need to put up a defence for BAT

You are the one telling us he needs to sell Lithium and buy Tokunboh train parts. BAT didn't say these.

He said he is going to Europe to find investors, barely 2 weeks after returning from the same Europe and telling us he is back fully.

They actually know those that can believe all these sha. [/color]

Segedinho:
He just remembered we have high volume of Lihium deposits.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]I don't know the Investor that cannot wait for you till you are sworn in as a President.



Na dem sabi sha. [/color]

Hamachi:
What are the pros and cons of living abroad?
It depends if you are moving for financial or non financial reasons, and how long you move for.

What are the pros and cons of moving back to your home country after living abroad?

What are the pros and cons of moving abroad, and where are some good places to live?
Let´s start with the cons to get that out of the way first

1.
The more countries you have lived in, the more you loose a sense of belonging (at least I feel that way). I have lived in 9 different ones and although I have of course great memories and part of my heart is in all of them, I feel I belong nowhere and certainly not in my home country anymore either.

After so many years I crave a sense of belonging, a base to call home (even if it just means to be there a couple of months a year), friends I do not have to say goodbye to every few months or years. And no, to stay in touch on Social Media is not the same at all, I personally create bonding through shared experiences and not by living in past memories.

2.
If you move a lot and you know you will not be in a place for a very long time, you wonder if it makes sense to emotionally invest in relationships and friendships and I think sometimes relationship become more superficial because building them takes time and commitment and you know you will leave again and who wants heart breaks.

3.
Depending on your age group, aging parents back home suddenly become a concern. One is far away and cannot just jump in a plane and is home in one hour. A sense of guilt sets in even if your loved ones give you no reason to feel guilt and its only in your head. And you also realize time becomes more precious and one is far away.

4.
When you get home you realize your friends are more or less still the same, they have aged too, might have created a family, changed jobs, etc. but essentially they are still the same. You on the other hand have changed, its unavoidable. Your horizons have widened and you might not have that much in common with old friends anymore. There is a sense of loss and sadness.

5.
Depending on where you are abroad, romantic relationships can take a back seat. If an independent western single women in her late twenties or thirties comes for example to Asia with the hope to not only find professional opportunities and adventures but also a partner to create a family with, I would say, think twice, your choices will be limited, but that is a topic for a different question.

6.
The longer you are in a certain region the more difficult it will be to go back to your home country if you ever want to return, because your skills and experiences will become more bankable in your new country than in your home country. If your business is online it’s a different story of course.

7.
Loneliness can also be an issue. If you do not consider yourself the love of your life and enjoy time alone too, you will struggle, because it is unavoidable that there will be moments when you will be alone, especially if you just arrive in a new place. And when you get sick its also not exactly fun.

8.
Constantly having to let go is sad, at least for me. I do not like to let go of things, people, places that entered my heart, but sometimes life changes and there is nothing you can do about it.

In many places (such as Singapore, Dubai for example) people are in transit, they stay for a couple of years and then they move on, you might loose a job and the work permit that goes with it and the list goes on. If you have no plan B, the stress level rises.

9.
You feel often disconnected if you do not speak the local language, but might also not live there long enough to really fluently communicate. Some languages especially for westerns are just not so easy to learn (thai is one of them).

The frustration you feel when you start learning a new language and can only express yourself like a 2 year old in the body and with the mind of a grown up person.

10.

Personally I also feel sometimes alone, when there is nobody who shares a certain sense of humor. Humor is often very different and culture specific. I can laugh my head off about certain things or situations and my colleagues just look at me and wonder what that is all about.

And they laugh about certain things and I cannot see what is funny about it either. Laughing is also about bonding with people, so I can say sometimes I miss bonding over a shared sense of humor.

Now that we are done with some of the cons, lets talk about the wonderful pros.

1.
You change for the better

2.
You become more tolerant

3.
You become a better Ambassador of your home country when you return. I swear, whenever I return home, I am particularly friendly to anybody who is foreign, I feel so connected because I am a foreigner in other countries too, so I want them to feel welcome and leave with good memories.

4.
Once you have lived abroad, this place will never ever be just a dot on the map. It will penetrate your memory, it will become part of your history, if you disliked your experience or loved it does not matter, it will never leave you indifferent anymore.

5.
You develop courage and learn how to overcome obstacles

6.
You learn to rely on yourself

7.
You realize that essentially all people in the world are the same, we are just shaped by different education, background, beliefs, etc. but we all want to be respected, loved, heard and acknowledged.

8.
You become more flexible (you just have to)

9.
You age slower, because whenever you learn or see something new it feels the days are much longer and more intense. Every day is a new adventure and there is less routine.

10.
Everywhere I go there is something I love and I weave it into my personality to take it with me. It is like as I go along, I create a more interesting and better version of myself (at least I think that, but that is a good start).

11.
You learn to judge less and listen more.

12.
You will feel more emotionally connected to the world.

Leoniine:
LMAO.

Now that you ask, especially in light of the case being adjourned until the 17th of May again, I do know for certain that it'll be prolonged for as long as possible. And there'll still be many dramas and twists to come with it.

(Although, I noticed BATist boys seemed to have soft-pedaled on their propaganda against PO?)

And Tinubu will definitely be sworn in before a judgement is delivered (that is assuming none of those 'spiritual prophecies' about him being arrested come to pass LOL).

I also think from now until then, he has the backing of the incumbency, and when he gets there, he may have some constitutional power that will make the delivery of a swift judgment all the more hard.

Another part of me also feels like this case wouldn't end at the Appeal Court, but at the Supreme Court. Some weeks ago, if you'd asked me, I would have told you I was 98% certain that Obi will get his mandate back. Sure, I am hopeful and positive, but realistically, I cannot say anything definite. I will have to wait and see more development/progress in the case before I can confidently predict how it'll end.

On the issue of the forfeiture for example; it happened alright, but I wonder how the LP's team are going to make that stick as grounds for disqualification. The issue is not a new public knowledge no more, and it's hard to think that no one has ever tried to drag Tibubu to court for it and succeeded. Like, why hasn't someone taken him to court all this while? In the past? Does LP have other damning evidence that has never seen the light of the day? Obi doesn't strike me as someone who will pursue a course without him being sure of its success.

I do not recall the details of the double nomination, but it's about Shettima, right? I think he resigned from being a Senator a day too late, and that may be a valid ground.

As for the FCT ish, too, it is highly semantical, but generally, we know that 'AND' is a conjuction that places a condition on the thing mentioned after.

Purely, linguistically, there is nothing confusing about that. 25% of votes in the FCT is a requirement.

Now, some people argue that, 'oh, why should the FCT have a deciding power more that the rest of us?' and I say, the FCT doesn't have a governor, too. Is it okay for it to be 'inferior' to other states in that respect?

Abuja being the FCT isn't just symbolic; Aso Rock and the National Assembly and so many other governmental agencies are there. It's only right for the indigenes there to get their own consideration.

The argument/clause is just like the standard English and Math pass requirements.

It's self-explanatory.

'I gave sweet to Tola, Shola, Debbie, and Macy.'

'You must have 50% in Chemistry, Literature, English and the Fine Arts.'

So I do believe this one is a VERY strong case.

Someone on Twitter thoroughly broke it down in a thread, though, and some people are now saying that general English language is different from English 'under the law.'

Toor. If that is so, I have no f-king idea, but in standard English, the consequence of using 'and' is indisputable.

And finallyyyyy, Ikpeazu. (I thought he was the leading counsel, but I saw a Livy as the leading counsel on PO's team on F?P).

But anyway, whether he's the one leading or he's a part of the team, I believe he has an immeasurable value to bring to the case given his history of electoral petitions.

So, that's it...

sorry for the long talk i am like that sometimes

monerozi5590:
What other thing do BVAS do? Ajuri Ngelale has explained everything in my first post you quoted if you answered that question correctly.

raumdeuter:
Recognizing Oyetola iRev as the legit source will be a problem for the Presidential Tribunal, Now with this precedence already set, If you are coming with anything other than BVAS, you are just wasting your time

Nezzjnr:
Lmao

raumdeuter:
Yes it is. People are allowed to open carry

47c3ee:
Tinibu will be 9ja's first remote president, that will randomly visit 9ja whenever he likes

GloriousGbola:
Obj spent most of his first term out of Nigeria chasing debt forgiveness and looking for investors.

We are talking about mines, about lithium - well it is foreign partners we can engage for this. The trains for lagos blue line were apparently gotten at bend down select price. There are other parts of our infrastructure where we can adopt the same strategy.

izzou:


[color=royalblue]The wickedness of the wicked[/color]

Nezzjnr:
Lmao

Spy360:
Nice one.

Ikpeazu is the lead counsel for Adeleke in the Osun case that just ended in victory. I won't be surprised if he takes over leadership of the PO case.

Donjazet2:
A very wonderful post.

Highlighting the pros and cons of "japa".
Very balanced indeed.