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Samantha124:
You have a twin in here..

Oh...LOL that's not me 😂😅

But she's telling the truth... I'm not trying to bash you guys or anything like that, but I've heard stories of some of those SA girls who have been with Nigerian guys getting rejected by SA guys afterwards.

One SA guy even ended his engagement after finding out that his fiancee was once with a Nigerian.

You guys should make sure you marry them because the chances of them getting rejected within the society after you leave them are very high... A week ago I saw some pictures of this other SA girl going around on YouTube and on social media, she is believed to have been involved with Nigerians, but now they've left her and she's financially down... She has nothing, but no one wants to help her and they keep telling her to go back to those Nigerians she was with and ask them for help.

ghettochild:
Are you saying there are no longer Zulu virgins or that ur sisters are not interested in Nigerians inspire of the negative things about us.
My friend gerrarahere with ur biased comments...

Samantha124:
But she's telling the truth... I'm not trying to bash you guys or anything like that, but I've heard stories of some of those SA girls who have been with Nigerian guys getting rejected by SA guys afterwards.

One SA guy even ended his engagement after finding out that his fiancee was once with a Nigerian.

You guys should make sure you marry them because the chances of them getting rejected within the society after you leave them are very high... A week ago I saw some pictures of this other SA girl going around on YouTube and on social media, she is believed to have been involved with Nigerians, but now they've left her and she's financially down... She has nothing, but no one wants to help her and they keep telling her to go back to those Nigerians she was with and ask them for help.

That reeks of hate ,jealousy and bitterness don't you think so?

No... Most girls who go for Nigerian guys here are those street girls.

The type that would easily open their legs at the smell of money, they're what you guys would refer to as oloshos.

So most SA guys want nothing to do with them, they leave them for you guys.

cejaypriesty:
That reeks of hate ,jealousy and bitterness don't you think so?

Samantha124:
No... Most girls who go for Nigerian guys here are those street girls.

The type that would easily open their legs at the smell of money, they're what you guys would refer to as oloshos.

So most SA guys want nothing to do with them, they leave them for you guys.

Stop lying wena. There are many many many SA girls who are married to Nigerian and foreign men in your country who are not your so called "magoshas" and you know this, just because you are nor around these types of people and stick to "your kind" doesn't negate the fact that this exists abundantly.

Stop peddling false narratives to feed your confirmation bias. Sepukku is watching you.

Samantha124:
But she's telling the truth... I'm not trying to bash you guys or anything like that, but I've heard stories of some of those SA girls who have been with Nigerian guys getting rejected by SA guys afterwards.



One SA guy even ended his engagement after finding out that his fiancee was once with a Nigerian.

That SA guy has low self esteem and is very likely a village boy from Mthatha who has been told boogey man stories of Nigerians in SA.

Samantha124:
You guys should make sure you marry them because the chances of them getting rejected within the society after you leave them are very high... A week ago I saw some pictures of this other SA girl going around on YouTube and on social media, she is believed to have been involved with Nigerians, but now they've left her and she's financially down... She has nothing, but no one wants to help her and they keep telling her to go back to those Nigerians she was with and ask them for help.

The real issue is that your ladies should stop associating themselves with "foreigners" in general and stick to your own brothers. Why is it that they see "other" men as desirable?

That is the real question

KingCold:
Bushman genes are to be found on every modern black South African, on average black South Africans tend to be lighter complexioned, shorter, leaner, have sparingly hair like the khoisan, etc, The Xhosa people especially, inherited their high cheekbones

Modern studies indicate that the Bantu popluations have an average of 25% Khoisan genes in their make up while the so called Colored populatons carry them at a 75% percentile.

This would mean that 4 of 10 Bantu people very likely carry some khoisan genes while 7 out of 10 coloreds carry them at a higher frequency.

The porportion of Khoisan ancestry in Bantu is quite similar to that of the amount of European DNA in African Americans, with a conclusion that dilution of genes not enough to significantly change the phenotype of the Bantu.

ghettochild:
Are you saying there are no longer Zulu virgins or that ur sisters are not interested in Nigerians inspire of the negative things about us.
My friend gerrarahere with ur biased comments...

There are Zulu virgins and there are my sisters interested in Nigerians. But the question is ....are the Zulu virgins the ones who date you ? . Caliber matters , but I'm sure not to you people , afterall an American gogo is still an American girl to you .

You're right, they agreed to get married to those Nigerian men because the men are loaded in their bank accounts.

Have you ever seen an SA lady married to a Nigerian security guard, or a mere Nigerian driver? If by a mistake the money gets finished, those ladies will run and never look back.. And most of them are just house wives because they were picked from the streets and have nothing to do but just be house wives. And have you done a background check on those ladies married to Nigerians? Did you bother to check the kind of men they used to date before getting married to Nigerian guys?

After getting married to Nigerians, they start acting like decent girls because deep down they know that they hit the jackpot.

There are different kinds of street girls, professional ones, and unprofessional ones and most of them like going for Nigerian men because they know that that's where free money is at.

That's why I'm saying you guys should marry them because if you leave them, they may get rejected by the society.. They're usually referred to as Nigerian leftovers.

Sepukku:
Stop lying wena. There are many many many SA girls who are married to Nigerian and foreign men in your country who are not your so called "magoshas" and you know this, just because you are nor around these types of people and stick to "your kind" doesn't negate the fact that this exists abundantly.

Stop peddling false narratives to feed your confirmation bias. Sepukku is watching you.

Samantha124:
I don't know why you waste your time writing all these paragraphs because you and I are saying the same thing.

Apart from the Khoisan, all SA tribes have Bantu ancestry from their Bantu ancestors migrating from Central Africa to down South.

When they first came to SA, there weren't your Zulus, Xhosas, or Pedis... No, they were just one Bantu people with different clans... Then there came a time where those clans went their separate ways and ended up forming your Zulus, Xhosas, and etc.

Just like how the Pedis and the Tswanas are also the descendants of the Sothos.

When the Bantus first came to SA, they intermarried with the Khoisan, but as more Bantu groups kept coming to SA, they started outnumbering the Khoisan people and as a result, they then continued marrying each others as Bantus, hence the Bantu genetics within a typical South African surpasses that of the Khoisan... You may find that the person only has 20 or 30 percentage of the Khoisan genes, while the rest its only Bantu genetics... Only those that are living amongst the Khoisan in the Northern Cape may have high Khoisan genetics.

Those SA indians that you mentioned may still look like the same indians like those of India, but their cultural practices are not exactly the same as those of indians in India... Even the attires and cultural practices of the northern Indians in India are different from those of southern Indians in India... Which basically means that as they separated, their ways of life and cultures evolved... And southern Indians are darker than northern Indians.

I never said that Zulus, Xhosas, Pedis, and other black South African tribes migrated from Central Africa to South Africa... I said we are from Central West Africa because our ancestors the Bantu people migrated from Central West Africa to South Africa, but along the line, they evolved into the tribes that we are today.

We wouldn't be who we are today if they didn't migrate from Central West Africa to South Africa.

The main fact that you can't tell me where the Zulus and the Xhosas originate without talking about the Bantu people should tell you that WE ARE ALSO THE BANTU PEOPLE!!!

I don't know why you keep adding other different ethnic groups into our discussion when the main discussion here is about the Bantus and the black SA tribes... What does Trevor Noah, the indians, and the coloured have to do with Bantu people and black SA tribes' history?

The main fact that you can't tell me the origin of the Zulus and Xhosas without bringing up the Bantus should tell you that we are the descendants of the Bantus, which also makes us the Bantus because only a small percentage of Khoisan can be found within our genes.. Maybe those living in the Northern Cape can be found with the high percentage of the Khoisan genes because they live amongst them, but as for the rest of the black South Africans, the Bantu genes dominate.

So you're the only one allowed to waste your time writing paragraphs ?

I will be replying to your post section by section cus I'm a bit busy , so don't think I'm deliberately avoiding certain parts , wait for me to say I'm done before making that conclusion.

1. I asked you if you consider Trevor Noah black or White, he has both ancestries in him , so can we simplify this and call him a white man with black genes or a black man with white genes ?

The next section is coming .....

Those girls that see Nigerian men as desirable only want their money.

Isn't it that you guys use money to buy girls love? And in return they give you guys pussy... They know that with you guys they hit the jackpot and they don't need to work in order to make money, all they have to do is lay on their back and there'll be money in their bank accounts.

They're only after your money because you guys like showing off.

Have you ever seen an SA girl married to a Nigerian security guard, driver, or gardener

Sepukku:
That SA guy has low self esteem and is very likely a village boy from Mthatha who has been told boogey man stories of Nigerians in SA.




The real issue is that your ladies should stop associating themselves with "foreigners" in general and stick to your own brothers. Why is it that they see "other" men as desirable?

That is the real question

Samantha124:
I don't know why you waste your time writing all these paragraphs because you and I are saying the same thing.

Apart from the Khoisan, all SA tribes have Bantu ancestry from their Bantu ancestors migrating from Central Africa to down South.

When they first came to SA, there weren't your Zulus, Xhosas, or Pedis... No, they were just one Bantu people with different clans... Then there came a time where those clans went their separate ways and ended up forming your Zulus, Xhosas, and etc.

Just like how the Pedis and the Tswanas are also the descendants of the Sothos.

When the Bantus first came to SA, they intermarried with the Khoisan, but as more Bantu groups kept coming to SA, they started outnumbering the Khoisan people and as a result, they then continued marrying each others as Bantus, hence the Bantu genetics within a typical South African surpasses that of the Khoisan... You may find that the person only has 20 or 30 percentage of the Khoisan genes, while the rest its only Bantu genetics... Only those that are living amongst the Khoisan in the Northern Cape may have high Khoisan genetics.

Those SA indians that you mentioned may still look like the same indians like those of India, but their cultural practices are not exactly the same as those of indians in India... Even the attires and cultural practices of the northern Indians in India are different from those of southern Indians in India... Which basically means that as they separated, their ways of life and cultures evolved... And southern Indians are darker than northern Indians.

I never said that Zulus, Xhosas, Pedis, and other black South African tribes migrated from Central Africa to South Africa... I said we are from Central West Africa because our ancestors the Bantu people migrated from Central West Africa to South Africa, but along the line, they evolved into the tribes that we are today.

We wouldn't be who we are today if they didn't migrate from Central West Africa to South Africa.

The main fact that you can't tell me where the Zulus and the Xhosas originate without talking about the Bantu people should tell you that WE ARE ALSO THE BANTU PEOPLE!!!

I don't know why you keep adding other different ethnic groups into our discussion when the main discussion here is about the Bantus and the black SA tribes... What does Trevor Noah, the indians, and the coloured have to do with Bantu people and black SA tribes' history?

The main fact that you can't tell me the origin of the Zulus and Xhosas without bringing up the Bantus should tell you that we are the descendants of the Bantus, which also makes us the Bantus because only a small percentage of Khoisan can be found within our genes.. Maybe those living in the Northern Cape can be found with the high percentage of the Khoisan genes because they live amongst them, but as for the rest of the black South Africans, the Bantu genes dominate.

2. Is there a Bantu tribe or language in Central Africa? If there was ever a language called Bantu or a tribe called Bantu or a people called Bantu who originate from there surely those left behind would be in majority there and they must have preserved their tribe or language. How did they lose a language that was spoken by the majority when they did not move anywhere or have any outside influences except the colonialists ?. I'm sure there's different dialects or variations of English spoken in the UK, but the official language spoken there is English which comes from the English people. I really want to hear what you were taught about this one. Why did the Bantus in their natural habitat abandon a language understood by all ?

Ahh!!! I thought you said you're busy..🤣🤣🤣

Aren't you supposed to be still working..😂😂😂

Lionessza6:
So you're the only one allowed to waste your time writing paragraphs ?

I will be replying to your post section by section cus I'm a bit busy , so don't think I'm deliberately avoiding certain parts , wait for me to say I'm done before making that conclusion.

1. I asked you if you consider Trevor Noah black or White, he has both ancestries in him , so can we simplify this and call him a white man with black genes or a black man with white genes ?

The next section is coming .....

Samantha124:
I don't know why you waste your time writing all these paragraphs because you and I are saying the same thing.

Apart from the Khoisan, all SA tribes have Bantu ancestry from their Bantu ancestors migrating from Central Africa to down South.

When they first came to SA, there weren't your Zulus, Xhosas, or Pedis... No, they were just one Bantu people with different clans... Then there came a time where those clans went their separate ways and ended up forming your Zulus, Xhosas, and etc.

Just like how the Pedis and the Tswanas are also the descendants of the Sothos.

When the Bantus first came to SA, they intermarried with the Khoisan, but as more Bantu groups kept coming to SA, they started outnumbering the Khoisan people and as a result, they then continued marrying each others as Bantus, hence the Bantu genetics within a typical South African surpasses that of the Khoisan... You may find that the person only has 20 or 30 percentage of the Khoisan genes, while the rest its only Bantu genetics... Only those that are living amongst the Khoisan in the Northern Cape may have high Khoisan genetics.

Those SA indians that you mentioned may still look like the same indians like those of India, but their cultural practices are not exactly the same as those of indians in India... Even the attires and cultural practices of the northern Indians in India are different from those of southern Indians in India... Which basically means that as they separated, their ways of life and cultures evolved... And southern Indians are darker than northern Indians.

I never said that Zulus, Xhosas, Pedis, and other black South African tribes migrated from Central Africa to South Africa... I said we are from Central West Africa because our ancestors the Bantu people migrated from Central West Africa to South Africa, but along the line, they evolved into the tribes that we are today.

We wouldn't be who we are today if they didn't migrate from Central West Africa to South Africa.

The main fact that you can't tell me where the Zulus and the Xhosas originate without talking about the Bantu people should tell you that WE ARE ALSO THE BANTU PEOPLE!!!

I don't know why you keep adding other different ethnic groups into our discussion when the main discussion here is about the Bantus and the black SA tribes... What does Trevor Noah, the indians, and the coloured have to do with Bantu people and black SA tribes' history?

The main fact that you can't tell me the origin of the Zulus and Xhosas without bringing up the Bantus should tell you that we are the descendants of the Bantus, which also makes us the Bantus because only a small percentage of Khoisan can be found within our genes.. Maybe those living in the Northern Cape can be found with the high percentage of the Khoisan genes because they live amongst them, but as for the rest of the black South Africans, the Bantu genes dominate.

3. You ask why I included other ethic groups here after you threw a scenario of me moving to another location; North Africa. And here here you are writing a whole paragraph about the whole of India , which actually is not what I was pointing at.

Indians in South Africa weren't taken from all over india , so if you really wanted to check the evolution of SA indians, compare them to the Indians from the region they originated from .

You alluded that by changing a location one could evolve , and that is far from reality. You can evolve into a new group through genetics , cultural and language infusions. That is why I said SA whites and Indians still remain foreign in South Africa, there is nothing connecting them to this place except for the fact that generations of them were born here. Sharon1 was born in Britain right ? But she still remains a Nigerian, but if she has kids with an English man , that man still remains English but those kids wont be neither genetically Nigerian or Eglish, they will be a new breed. So we cannot say those kids came to the UK, their mother did, but they are not Nigerian and neither are they original Brits. If more of such unions take place and they take over Britain , then the phenotype of average Brit would change.....now that is evolution . Yes , others from this new formation will reproduce with full blooded Nigerians or Brits and they might appear to be more black or white, but genetically they are still neither.

Samantha124:
You're right, they agreed to get married to those Nigerian men because the men are loaded in their bank accounts.

There are a class of SA Magosha and loose girls who go for Nigerians with money and there are a class of other types of SA girls who find Nigerian and West African men in general attractive because of what they bring in terms of their cultural nusiance as compared to SA men.

SA women have and continue to experience a lot of the after effects of what apartheid did to their parents in terms of absent fathers who had to leave families to earn a living somewhere else, growing up with their grand mothers out of neglect from mothers who abandoned them, abusive and highly promiscious husbands and boyfriends and general trauma from relationships with men.

This is the primary reason they gravitate to "other" types of African men including Nigerians. This is most evident in college campuses where there is a healthy mix of foreign students.

Samantha124:
Have you ever seen an SA lady married to a Nigerian security guard, or a mere Nigerian driver? If by a mistake the money gets finished, those ladies will run and never look back.. And most of them are just house wives because they were picked from the streets and have nothing to do but just be house wives. And have you done a background check on those ladies married to Nigerians? Did you bother to check the kind of men they used to date before getting married to Nigerian guys?

I have seen SA ladies married to a myriad of types of Nigerian men from broke students without jobs, pastors, Chefs, Lawyers, doctors, businessmen, 419ers and yes all the way down to security guards so that premise does not hold any water. You are not in the community so you wouldn't know.

Samantha124:
There are different kinds of street girls, professional ones, and unprofessional ones and most of them like going for Nigerian men because they know that that's where free money is at.

Those are Magoshas that is their occupation.

Samantha124:
That's why I'm saying you guys should marry them because if you leave them, they may get rejected by the society.. They're usually referred to as Nigerian leftovers.

This narrative you are peddling is a popular SA one born out of hatred for Nigerians in general and not so much actual fact. THe ladies you are speaking of here are already broken down magosha, alcoholic location type girls who are already bruised and don't do a service to their repuation by hanging out with hustler type Nigerian boys.

Now if a SA man rejects a SA lady who was married or in a relation with a Nigerian Doctor of good means then something is either wrong with their self esteem or they are generally just the usual Nigerian hating SA man.

Samantha124:
Ahh!!! I thought you said you're busy..🤣🤣🤣

Aren't you supposed to be still working..😂😂😂

Busy means I'm at work ? . Gosh! See what conditioning has done.

Busy could mean;
I'm feeding my pigs in my village farm.

I have guests or in a training session and therefore cant be stuck on my phone or laptop for long.

I'm on a long trip somewhere , so when I'm on a break I can only get a few minutes to write something before I move again .
Etc etc

LMFAO.

Believe whatever you want to believe.

But one thing I can tell you is that most SA girls who've been with Nigerian guys have high chances of being rejects within the society because they're Nigerian leftovers.

Make sure you marry your leftovers because no one would want to associate with them.

As for me, I'm done with you because my fellow South African Lionessza6 require my undivided attention.

I have a debate to prepare for..😂😂😂

Sepukku:
There are a class of SA Magosha and loose girls who go for Nigerians with money and there are a class of other types of SA girls who find Nigerian and West African men in general attractive because of what they bring in terms of their cultural nusiance as compared to SA men.

SA women have and continue to experience a lot of the after effects of what apartheid did to their parents in terms of absent fathers who had to leave families to earn a living somewhere else, growing up with their grand mothers out of neglect from mothers who abandoned them, abusive and highly promiscious husbands and boyfriends and general trauma from relationships with men.

This is the primary reason they gravitate to "other" types of African men including Nigerians. This is most evident in college campuses where there is a healthy mix of foreign students.



I have seen SA ladies married to a myriad of types of Nigerian men from broke students without jobs, pastors, Chefs, Lawyers, doctors, businessmen, 419ers and yes all the way down to security guards so that premise does not hold any water. You are not in the community so you wouldn't know.



Those are Magoshas that is their occupation.



This narrative you are peddling is a popular SA one born out of hatred for Nigerians in general and not so much actual fact. THe ladies you are speaking of here are already broken down magosha, alcoholic location type girls who are already bruised and don't do a service to their repuation by hanging out with hustler type Nigerian boys.

Now if a SA man rejects a SA lady who was married or in a relation with a Nigerian Doctor of good means then something is either wrong with their self esteem or they are generally just the usual Nigerian hating SA man.

But I'm just joking.

Why must you always take everything seriously even with mere jokes?🤦🤦🤦

Loosen up a bit because life is not always about being too serious.

Lionessza6:
Busy means I'm at work ? . Gosh! See what conditioning has done.

Busy could mean;
I'm feeding my pigs in my village farm.

I have guest and therefore cant be stuck on my phone or laptop for long.

I'm on a long trip somewhere , so when I'm on a break I can only get a few minutes to write something before I move again .
Etc etc

LMFAO.

Lionessza6:
2. Is there a Bantu tribe or language in Central Africa? If there was ever a language called Bantu or a tribe called Bantu or a people called Bantu who originate from there surely those left behind would be in majority there and they must have preserved their tribe or language. How did they lose a language that was spoken by the majority when they did not move anywhere or have any outside influences except the colonialists ?.

Bantu is a grouping of "languages" with similar phonology and origins and not one specific language much like Latin languages are a grouping of languages with similar grammar and phonology. There is correlation with language and peoples in general where one can trace the genetic and cultural similarities of a people proximate to each other using language.

Lionessza6:
I'm sure there's different dialects or variations of English spoken in the UK, but the official language spoken there is English which comes from the English people. I really want to hear what you were taught about this one. Why did the Bantus in their natural habitat abandon a language understood by all ?

The form of english spoken today is actually a germanic language influenced by movements of different types of people through out britain, from the romans to the celts to the gaelic peoples. The english spoken in Britain today could not be intelligible by the form of english spoken say in the 1200's. There would be a variation although similar to phonology and grammar.

This is the same scenario in terms of Bantu Languages. They have a similar origin and as these people who spoke these languages moves across Africa their languages morphed and amalgamated with othe languages present within their vicinity, however it is without a doubt that a Proto Bantu speaking group carried this language form across the east of Africa all the way down to South africa and was likely they were pastoral nomads.

My two cents.

Samantha124:
Believe whatever you want to believe.

But one thing I can tell you is that most SA girls who've been with Nigerian guys have high chances of being rejects within the society because they're Nigerian leftovers.

Make sure you marry your leftovers because no one would want to associate with them.

As for me, I'm done with you because my fellow South African Lionessza6 require my undivided attention.

I have a debate to prepare for..😂😂😂

I can chime in on that debate with your fellow Lionessa because I am quite versed in linguistics as well.

Samantha124:
I don't know why you waste your time writing all these paragraphs because you and I are saying the same thing.

Apart from the Khoisan, all SA tribes have Bantu ancestry from their Bantu ancestors migrating from Central Africa to down South.

When they first came to SA, there weren't your Zulus, Xhosas, or Pedis... No, they were just one Bantu people with different clans... Then there came a time where those clans went their separate ways and ended up forming your Zulus, Xhosas, and etc.

Just like how the Pedis and the Tswanas are also the descendants of the Sothos.

When the Bantus first came to SA, they intermarried with the Khoisan, but as more Bantu groups kept coming to SA, they started outnumbering the Khoisan people and as a result, they then continued marrying each others as Bantus, hence the Bantu genetics within a typical South African surpasses that of the Khoisan... You may find that the person only has 20 or 30 percentage of the Khoisan genes, while the rest its only Bantu genetics... Only those that are living amongst the Khoisan in the Northern Cape may have high Khoisan genetics.

Those SA indians that you mentioned may still look like the same indians like those of India, but their cultural practices are not exactly the same as those of indians in India... Even the attires and cultural practices of the northern Indians in India are different from those of southern Indians in India... Which basically means that as they separated, their ways of life and cultures evolved... And southern Indians are darker than northern Indians.

I never said that Zulus, Xhosas, Pedis, and other black South African tribes migrated from Central Africa to South Africa... I said we are from Central West Africa because our ancestors the Bantu people migrated from Central West Africa to South Africa, but along the line, they evolved into the tribes that we are today.

We wouldn't be who we are today if they didn't migrate from Central West Africa to South Africa.

The main fact that you can't tell me where the Zulus and the Xhosas originate without talking about the Bantu people should tell you that WE ARE ALSO THE BANTU PEOPLE!!!

I don't know why you keep adding other different ethnic groups into our discussion when the main discussion here is about the Bantus and the black SA tribes... What does Trevor Noah, the indians, and the coloured have to do with Bantu people and black SA tribes' history?

The main fact that you can't tell me the origin of the Zulus and Xhosas without bringing up the Bantus should tell you that we are the descendants of the Bantus, which also makes us the Bantus because only a small percentage of Khoisan can be found within our genes.. Maybe those living in the Northern Cape can be found with the high percentage of the Khoisan genes because they live amongst them, but as for the rest of the black South Africans, the Bantu genes dominate.

4. And then you said this ;

" We wouldn't be who we are today if they didn't migrate from Central West Africa to South Africa."

Would we be who we are today if they didn't mix with the Khoe-Sans?

You say you think or you know we are predominately Bantu and therefore we are Bsntus. So those who have been tested and have been found...not thought of or assumed but proved to be predominately Khoi like Madela , they are khoisans ? . So let's forget about the other obvious Bantu traits they are carrying around and simply identify them as Khoi even though we have real Khoe San around ?

Samantha124:
I don't know why you waste your time writing all these paragraphs because you and I are saying the same thing.

Apart from the Khoisan, all SA tribes have Bantu ancestry from their Bantu ancestors migrating from Central Africa to down South.

When they first came to SA, there weren't your Zulus, Xhosas, or Pedis... No, they were just one Bantu people with different clans... Then there came a time where those clans went their separate ways and ended up forming your Zulus, Xhosas, and etc.

Just like how the Pedis and the Tswanas are also the descendants of the Sothos.

When the Bantus first came to SA, they intermarried with the Khoisan, but as more Bantu groups kept coming to SA, they started outnumbering the Khoisan people and as a result, they then continued marrying each others as Bantus, hence the Bantu genetics within a typical South African surpasses that of the Khoisan... You may find that the person only has 20 or 30 percentage of the Khoisan genes, while the rest its only Bantu genetics... Only those that are living amongst the Khoisan in the Northern Cape may have high Khoisan genetics.

Those SA indians that you mentioned may still look like the same indians like those of India, but their cultural practices are not exactly the same as those of indians in India... Even the attires and cultural practices of the northern Indians in India are different from those of southern Indians in India... Which basically means that as they separated, their ways of life and cultures evolved... And southern Indians are darker than northern Indians.

I never said that Zulus, Xhosas, Pedis, and other black South African tribes migrated from Central Africa to South Africa... I said we are from Central West Africa because our ancestors the Bantu people migrated from Central West Africa to South Africa, but along the line, they evolved into the tribes that we are today.

We wouldn't be who we are today if they didn't migrate from Central West Africa to South Africa.

The main fact that you can't tell me where the Zulus and the Xhosas originate without talking about the Bantu people should tell you that WE ARE ALSO THE BANTU PEOPLE!!!

I don't know why you keep adding other different ethnic groups into our discussion when the main discussion here is about the Bantus and the black SA tribes... What does Trevor Noah, the indians, and the coloured have to do with Bantu people and black SA tribes' history?

The main fact that you can't tell me the origin of the Zulus and Xhosas without bringing up the Bantus should tell you that we are the descendants of the Bantus, which also makes us the Bantus because only a small percentage of Khoisan can be found within our genes.. Maybe those living in the Northern Cape can be found with the high percentage of the Khoisan genes because they live amongst them, but as for the rest of the black South Africans, the Bantu genes dominate.

6. Where did you get the the percentages of our different bloodlines ? Who did this massive genetic testing and when ? What was their intention or Agenda ? Did they have anything to lose if these results didn't come up this way , or were those who funded this research going to be happy if the outcome was to the contrary?

Not so long ago with the scamdemic covid we had Scientists , doctors etc proving to the world that who ever funds them gets the findings or results they want and therefore their preferred narrative dominates academia , media etc.

Could this information be coming from the same source that claim SA was an unoccupied territory before Europeans came here ? Who later edited and claimed only Khoe-San were here , and now claims there were few others like Chosas and Swatis?

Or is this your own observation ?

Not done yet......

But I thought having a debate is all about giving each other chances to speak and taking turns in giving our own opinions about the topic at hand..

But you just keep sending me paragraphs after paragraphs without giving me a chance to read each paragraph and respond.

Each time I ask you simple questions, you fail to answer them and you'd usually contradict yourself in the process with all these your paragraphs... You're so desperate to win this argument to a point that you even get worked up by just a simple joke, yet you keep failing to answer my questions.

You can't tell me where the Zulus and the Xhosas originate without mentioning the Bantu people, yet you claim that they're not Bantu... I asked you a few times, but you just keep bringing up the Bantu people you claim the Zulu and Xhosa people are not.

You may not be done, but I'm done with you because you just keep going round in circles... And loosen up a bit.

Good luck finding someone to continue your debate with.

I'm out..✌️✌️✌️

Lionessza6:
6. Where did you get the the percentages of our different bloodlines ? Who did this massive genetic testing and when ? What was their intention or Agenda ? Did they have anything to lose if these results didn't come up this way , or were those who funded this research going to be happy if the outcome was to the contrary?

Not so long ago with the scamdemic covid we had Scientists , doctors etc proving to the world that who ever funds them gets the findings or results they want and therefore their preferred narrative dominates academia , media etc.

Could this information be coming from the same source that claim SA was an unoccupied territory before Europeans came here ? Who later edited and claimed only Khoe-San were here , and now claims there were few others like Chosas and Swatis?

Or is this your own observation ?

Not done yet......

Samantha124:
No... Most girls who go for Nigerian guys here are those street girls.

The type that would easily open their legs at the smell of money, they're what you guys would refer to as oloshos.

So most SA guys want nothing to do with them, they leave them for you guys.

Technically you are saying that Nigerian guys go for street left over girls in SA?
I just lost my appetite 😕

Basically, yes.

I know one Nigerian married to one SA girl with 3 different baby daddies and all those 3 baby daddies are still alive.

She's a retired street girl..😂😂😂

But why lose your appetite?🤣🤣🤣🤣

cejaypriesty:
Technically you are saying that Nigerian guys go for street left over girls in SA?
I just lost my appetite 😕

Samantha124:
I don't know why you waste your time writing all these paragraphs because you and I are saying the same thing.

Apart from the Khoisan, all SA tribes have Bantu ancestry from their Bantu ancestors migrating from Central Africa to down South.

When they first came to SA, there weren't your Zulus, Xhosas, or Pedis... No, they were just one Bantu people with different clans... Then there came a time where those clans went their separate ways and ended up forming your Zulus, Xhosas, and etc.

Just like how the Pedis and the Tswanas are also the descendants of the Sothos.

When the Bantus first came to SA, they intermarried with the Khoisan, but as more Bantu groups kept coming to SA, they started outnumbering the Khoisan people and as a result, they then continued marrying each others as Bantus, hence the Bantu genetics within a typical South African surpasses that of the Khoisan... You may find that the person only has 20 or 30 percentage of the Khoisan genes, while the rest its only Bantu genetics... Only those that are living amongst the Khoisan in the Northern Cape may have high Khoisan genetics.

Those SA indians that you mentioned may still look like the same indians like those of India, but their cultural practices are not exactly the same as those of indians in India... Even the attires and cultural practices of the northern Indians in India are different from those of southern Indians in India... Which basically means that as they separated, their ways of life and cultures evolved... And southern Indians are darker than northern Indians.

I never said that Zulus, Xhosas, Pedis, and other black South African tribes migrated from Central Africa to South Africa... I said we are from Central West Africa because our ancestors the Bantu people migrated from Central West Africa to South Africa, but along the line, they evolved into the tribes that we are today.

We wouldn't be who we are today if they didn't migrate from Central West Africa to South Africa.

The main fact that you can't tell me where the Zulus and the Xhosas originate without talking about the Bantu people should tell you that WE ARE ALSO THE BANTU PEOPLE!!!

I don't know why you keep adding other different ethnic groups into our discussion when the main discussion here is about the Bantus and the black SA tribes... What does Trevor Noah, the indians, and the coloured have to do with Bantu people and black SA tribes' history?

The main fact that you can't tell me the origin of the Zulus and Xhosas without bringing up the Bantus should tell you that we are the descendants of the Bantus, which also makes us the Bantus because only a small percentage of Khoisan can be found within our genes.. Maybe those living in the Northern Cape can be found with the high percentage of the Khoisan genes because they live amongst them, but as for the rest of the black South Africans, the Bantu genes dominate.

7. Then you said
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only a small percentage of Khoisan can be found within our genes.. Maybe those living in the Northern Cape can be found with the high percentage of the Khoisan genes because they live amongst them, but as for the rest of the black South Africans, the Bantu genes dominate."

Now I'm going to take everyone reading for a ride around Mzantsi.

I will be posting famous people who have an average South African look, the looks you are mostly likely to find than others. You are free to correct me and point out the SA on my list that dont represent the average or the likely to encounter .

1. Exhibit 1:
Malema and his sidechick Ndlozi .

Malema: is on the darker side by complexion, he is of average height; I'd attribute this to his Bantu lineage. His face though is oval to roundish, and ofcourse you cannot miss his eyes or that region of his face , those are clearly khoi traits. So sisi, tell me what percentage is of Bantu or Khoe-San lineage is he carrying around ?.

Ndlozi: he has a facial features that could be found anywhere in Africa , but he is very short and with that his hair is not woolly and he obviously has mixed complexion ( normal or predominant among South Africans). Now tell me , is he more of a Bantu or Khoe-San, what percentage of these two groupings would you accord him ?

Exhibit 2: Manaka Ranaka.

She is shot or small( by normal normal* African standards). You cannot mistake her facial features for that of a Zambian lady . Her complexion though is very normal amongst a lot of African people outside of SA and her texture as well. So what percentage of her bloodline is Bantu or Khoe-San from your observation or learned view?

Exhibit 3

Gail Nkoane Mabalane

She has the body type that could be easily found around East Africans . However she is shorter than the average African and has those khoi cheekbones and ofcourse her facial bone structure. Rate her . Don't forget her husband Kabelo as well . His facial structure and eyes. His dark complexion , height and a bit of a bigger bone structure.

4.

Exhibit 4

Zikhona Somdaka ;
She is very tall and has a darker complexion. These are clearly Bantu traits. Her whole facial bone structure though with those high cheekbones and her eyes clearly come from the San( particularly Abathwa a Xhos clan from the San ), and that bone structure is found on almost all Xhosa women ; checkout the likes of Brenda fasie , Miriam Makeba , Ntsiki Mazwai etc.

So a small percentage of a new bloodline doesn't only wash down some features as we see with black Americans but it can also change their phenotype, in not just one or two people but millions ? .

The general South African man doesn't have strong bones like Samuel Eto for instance and neither is he small like the San , but they are generally a cross of the two. That my dear is evolution . The general SA woman is more voluptuous, short and generally on the lighter side complexion -wise compared to our central and West African counterparts . This is not just one or two , millions infact majority of us are like that. That is phenotype , and the SA weather didn't make us that way, but crossing of genes did.

MOST SA CARRY BOTH BLOODLINES IN ONE BODY ...IT COULD BE THE FACE LOOKING MORE SAN-ISH OR THE BODY RESEMBLING WHAT YOU FIND ELSEWHERE OR VICE VERSA. That is why I find it difficult to believe your percentages, how did you end with those?.

Samantha124:
But I thought having a debate is all about giving each other chances to speak and taking turns in giving our own opinions about the topic at hand..

But you just keep sending me paragraphs after paragraphs without giving me a chance to read each paragraph and respond.

Each time I ask you simple questions, you fail to answer them and you'd usually contradict yourself in the process with all these your paragraphs... You're so desperate to win this argument to a point that you even get worked up by just a simple joke, yet you keep failing to answer my questions.

You can't tell me where the Zulus and the Xhosas originate without mentioning the Bantu people, yet you claim that they're not Bantu... I asked you a few times, but you just keep bringing up the Bantu people you claim the Zulu and Xhosa people are not.

You may not be done, but I'm done with you because you just keep going round in circles... And loosen up a bit.

Good luck finding someone to continue your debate with.

I'm out..✌️✌️✌️

LMFAO, what's stopping you from answering one paragraph at time when you have the time? I even numbered them to make things easy for . Stop making excuses here . Don't act like you're being pressured here, I took about two days to reply to you , you could take your time too.

What question did I not answer? .

Ma'am, I'm done.

Lionessza6:
LMFAO, what's stopping you from answering one paragraph at time when you have the time? I even numbered them to make things easy for . Stop making excuses here . Don't act like you're being pressured here, I took about two days to reply to you , you could take your time too.

What question did I not answer? .

Samantha124:
Ma'am, I'm done.

What's the meaning of your name?
I love it for my expectant daughter

It's a Hebrew name meaning "God has heard".

greatiyk4u:
What's the meaning of your name?
I love it for my expectant daughter

Samantha124:
It's a Hebrew name meaning "God has heard".

Bookmarked and will remind you when she arrives

How far is the pregnancy?

greatiyk4u:
Bookmarked and will remind you when she arrives