₦airaland Forum

Rutherford2019:
What's the logic of siting oil refinery in Lagos but the oil is produced in Niger Delta?
Is there no land in SS and What's the cost of transporting crude oil from Rivers state to Lagos..
My Niger Delta brothers Igbos are better than you people at least if the oil is located in SE nobody can try this shit

keep ranting when ur diehard leaders has told u for free.

Rutherford2019:
What's the logic of siting oil refinery in Lagos but the oil is produced in Niger Delta?
Is there no land in SS and What's the cost of transporting crude oil from Rivers state to Lagos..

My Niger Delta brothers Igbos are better than you people at least if the oil is located in SE nobody can try this shit

Mister Man, nobody can stop the government if they want to harness the resources in your community.

If you try it, they will help you make your community unliveable. They will deploy soldiers, kill your people, rape your women, destroy your farmlands and pollute your waters. You will do zilch!

Una never wan stop to dey boast for Nairaland!

sonature1:
Remove Lagos and Ogun states from the list.
States that don't receive 13% derivatives have no crude oil in commercial quantity.

As for the question OP asked, I think Niger Delta states are not serious. They have used violence to destroy their region. That's the route SE is taking now. Nobody sites businesses in a volatile environment.

Niger Delta states are the biggest losers of one Nigeria project because they give so much and get so little in return. Even at that, they cannot account for the little they receive.

The nine oil-producing states in Nigeria shared N450.60 billion from the federation account through the 13 percent derivation formula in 2021.

Data from the National Bureau of Statistics (NBS) showed that Delta, Akwa-Ibom, Bayelsa, Rivers, Edo, Ondo, Imo, Lagos and Abia received the fund.

The 13 percent derivation fund comes from the federation revenue to oil-producing communities through the state governments as enshrined in section 162, sub-section 2 of the Nigerian constitution


https://www.thecable.ng/13-derivation-nine-oil-producing-states-shared-n450bn-in-2021/amp

Oil exploration is yet to start in Ogun but it's abundantly available there

Rutherford2019:
What's the logic of siting oil refinery in Lagos but the oil is produced in Niger Delta?
Is there no land in SS and What's the cost of transporting crude oil from Rivers state to Lagos..
My Niger Delta brothers Igbos are better than you people at least if the oil is located in SE nobody can try this shit

Offcourse igbos are the best in the universe, that is why your head is flat and your brain is filled with akpu.

Rutherford2019:
What's the logic of siting oil refinery in Lagos but the oil is produced in Niger Delta?
Is there no land in SS and What's the cost of transporting crude oil from Rivers state to Lagos..
My Niger Delta brothers Igbos are better than you people at least if the oil is located in SE nobody can try this shit

Igbos are always looking for trouble where there is none. Ph and Warri refineries are all in Pluto I suppose
Besides, Mini refinery projects are going on in the Niger Delta.

Don't forget that the Niger Delta is enjoying 13% derivative, NDDC and Ministry of Niger Delta.

The refinery is set up to receive oil through the coast.
It doesn't have to use Nigerian crude
Your assumption is that it will use Nigerian crude. It could but it does not have to
If it does it has to pay the market rate
Bear in mind that the crude oil is run in joint venture business with the Likes of Shell,Mobil and Chevron.
Those companies will never agree to undercut their selling price
Dangote can buy oil from Angola or Libya.

Google the largest refineries in the world.

In the top 8 at least 3 are in Korea an oil importer
The largest is in India.
And one is in Singapore that is ,5 out of the 8 largest refineries in non oil producing nations.
The Niger Delta is too violent with restive youth. No one is going to invest $18 billion in that region

Even government projects they will be demanding gratification before they allow work


There is no major chocolate producer in Nigeria or Ghana despite producing so much cocoa


Summary your conclusion is based on false assumptions.
It is not necessary to locate refineries next to crude sources from a business perspective. That is not a major issue.
No one will invest $18 billion in a place where the youth will shut down his business for spurious reasons.
The refining business is separate from the upstream .

If you look at the design of this refinery it is clear that it doesn't want to depend on Nigerian oil

richmond500:
they receive alot but use it for non fruitless thing, even if they receive a billion dollars, we will still not grow

Lagos didn't have oil when it grew like this, all we need is competent leaders

So much is stolen from Lagos too. However, Lagosians don't care because most people have lost faith in the government. Hence, you hear, "Only God can save us in this country."

Furthermore, Lagos stands out for many different reasons: The most popular state in the country, biggest market (thanks to the population), Nigeria's financial epicentre, and the state with some of the best infrastructure that supports businesses (seaports, airport, etc).

Therefore, even if you make an idiot the governor of Lagos, the state will keep thriving because it's strategically located to thrive. Also, many of the projects in Lagos are even financed by private companies with LASG merely giving them lands and legal approval. They call it PPP.

Biodun556:
The nine oil-producing states in Nigeria shared N450.60 billion from the federation account through the 13 percent derivation formula in 2021.

Data from the National Bureau of Statistics (NBS) showed that Delta, Akwa-Ibom, Bayelsa, Rivers, Edo, Ondo, Imo, Lagos and Abia received the fund.

The 13 percent derivation fund comes from the federation revenue to oil-producing communities through the state governments as enshrined in section 162, sub-section 2 of the Nigerian constitution


https://www.thecable.ng/13-derivation-nine-oil-producing-states-shared-n450bn-in-2021/amp

Oil exploration is yet to start in Ogun but it's abundantly available there

Stop sharing 2021 news; it is stale.

https://www.legit.ng/business-economy/energy/1531438-delta-leads-oil-producing-states-share-n970bn-13-oil-derivation-2022-anambra-joins-list/

The sharing percentage is not fixed. It's based on what a state brought to the table.

Gajagojo:
The refinery is set up to receive oil through the coast.
It doesn't have to use Nigerian crude
Your assumption is that it will use Nigerian crude. It could but it does not have to
If it does it has to pay the market rate
Bear in mind that the crude oil is run in joint venture business with the Likes of Shell,Mobil and Chevron.
Those companies will never agree to undercut their selling price
Dangote can buy oil from Angola or Libya.

Google the largest refineries in the world.

In the top 8 at least 3 are in Korea an oil importer
The largest is in India.
And one is in Singapore that is ,5 out of the 8 largest refineries in non oil producing nations.
The Niger Delta is too violent with restive youth. No one is going to invest $18 billion in that region

Even government projects they will be demanding gratification before they allow work


There is no major chocolate producer in Nigeria or Ghana despite producing so much cocoa


Summary your conclusion is based on false assumptions.
It is not necessary to locate refineries next to crude sources from a business perspective. That is not a major issue.
No one will invest $18 billion in a place where the youth will shut down his business for spurious reasons.
The refining business is separate from the upstream .

If you look at the design of this refinery it is clear that it doesn't want to depend on Nigerian oil

You are on point. I can see reason why BUA chose Akwa Ibom to build his own refinery

Peace is very important

Warri and Port Harcourt had first Class Refineries

Find out those who ran them aground

The Government has spent Billions trying to Revive them but to no avail

The FG still plans to build new refineries there especially near Bonny

Rutherford2019:
What's the logic of siting oil refinery in Lagos but the oil is produced in Niger Delta?
Is there no land in SS and What's the cost of transporting crude oil from Rivers state to Lagos..
My Niger Delta brothers Igbos are better than you people at least if the oil is located in SE nobody can try this shit

no.......niger deltans are better than biafrans.
Ijaws are better than biafrans

Noerection:
IPob terrorists will blow it up if sited in SS/SE

animal....ipob is not in ss

seunmsg:
Foreigners come to buy crude oil in Nigeria and ship it to refineries in Europe but it’s now a crime to buy crude oil from Niger delta and ship to a refinery in Lagos. Dude, your bigotry stinks.

This is the same Lagos where Your rubas are threatening non indigenes from voting, but want everyone to look away, now that they need Niger Delta oil

seunmsg:
Foreigners come to buy crude oil in Nigeria and ship it to refineries in Europe but it’s now a crime to buy crude oil from Niger delta and ship to a refinery in Lagos. Dude, your bigotry stinks.

Oh really? I hope you weren't among the Yoruba Ronu crew?? Yorubas won elections in the US but here in Nigeria, Igbos and South South people couldn't vote in Lagos.


Do you now realise what bigotry can do? If Niger Delta folks decide to blow up everything in the name of "ronu", how and where will Dangote get his crude in the short term?

Captain8:
animal....ipob is not in ss

Wicked Wike killed the few ipob terrorists in PHC

Acidosis:
Oh really? I hope you weren't among the Yoruba Ronu crew?? Yorubas won elections in the US but here in Nigeria, Igbos and South South people couldn't vote in Lagos.


Do you now realise what bigotry can do? If Niger Delta folks decide to blow up everything in the name of "ronu", how and where will Dangote get is oil in the short term?

Blow up private refinery?, why not lead so that Niger Deltans can follow you?.
Abi make Niger Deltans beg Dangote to patronize Niger Delta oil.
Dangote already factor this kinds of mindset into consideration, na to souce for cude oil from outside, that's why the refinery is by the sea side.

Acidosis:
Oh really? I hope you weren't among the Yoruba Ronu crew?? Yorubas won elections in the US but here in Nigeria, Igbos and South South people couldn't vote in Lagos.


Do you now realise what bigotry can do? If Niger Delta folks decide to blow up everything in the name of "ronu", how and where will Dangote get is oil in the short term?

The refinery does not need Nigerian oil in the short term.
It can buy oil from Anywhere

It is designed to receive oil from. Oil tankers at sea
They can come from Russia,Angola,Libya literally. ANYWHERE
You have no idea how the industry works . Nigerian oil is sold on forward contracts. It cannot just switch them off.
The refinery design is not just for Bonny light. It is designed to handle heavier and high sulfur crude which should tell you It is not set up to be reliant on Nigerian oil

They can blow up everything. Their problem

The refinery is not dependent on Nigerian oil and with the way the market is it could get cheaper oil from elsewhere

Acidosis:
Oh really? I hope you weren't among the Yoruba Ronu crew?? Yorubas won elections in the US but here in Nigeria, Igbos and South South people couldn't vote in Lagos.


Do you now realise what bigotry can do? If Niger Delta folks decide to blow up everything in the name of "ronu", how and where will Dangote get is oil in the short term?

Lol, your submission makes no sense. Dangote refinery is a private business. The company can decide not to buy crude from Nigeria and still operate successfully. What has Dangote building a refinery in Lagos got to do with election? Why will anybody blow up anything because a Dangote from Kano decides to build a company in Lagos?

Silly question.

You all failed to understand that it's a private project. Again, you failed you understand the ease of doing the project.

7lives:
Blow up private refinery?, why not lead so that Niger Deltans can follow you?.
Abi make Niger Deltans beg Dangote to patronize Niger Delta oil.
Dangote already factor this kinds of mindset into consideration, na to souce for cude oil from outside, that's why the refinery is by the sea side.

There is no pipeline bringing oil to the refinery.
It is serviced by oil tankers which can come from anywhere

OfoIgbo:
This is the same Lagos where Your rubas are threatening non indigenes from voting, but want everyone to look away, now that they need Niger Delta oil

They DO NOT NEED NIGER DELTA OIL


oil is a commodity and can be sourced literally from ANYWHERE

The so called Niger Delta oil belongs 20 % to 40% to the companies like Shell ,Mobil,Chevron etc.
They will seek to sell the oil to the highest bidder not necessarily in Nigeria .
Dangote can buy oil from Russia,Angola,Libya,etc

7lives:
Blow up private refinery?, why not lead so that Niger Deltans can follow you?.
Abi make Niger Deltans beg Dangote to patronize Niger Delta oil.
Dangote already factor this kinds of mindset into consideration, na to souce for cude oil from outside, that's why the refinery is by the sea side.

Read to comprehend.

Well as an ikwerre man alot of shit that's happening in niger Delta are from the leaders. Majority of y'all talking about Lagos market blah blah should ask ya self why is everything Lagos?

They can build that refinery in andoni island in rivers state, but he choose Lagos because of marginalisation. Now the people that the oil is degrading their lands if they want employment how will they get it?

Gajagojo:
The refinery does not need Nigerian oil in the short term.
It can buy oil from Anywhere

It is designed to receive oil from. Oil tankers at sea
They can come from Russia,Angola,Libya literally. ANYWHERE
You have no idea how the industry works . Nigerian oil is sold on forward contracts. It cannot just switch them off.
The refinery design is not just for Bonny light. It is designed to handle heavier and high sulfur crude which should tell you It is not set up to be reliant on Nigerian oil

They can blow up everything. Their problem

The refinery is not dependent on Nigerian oil and with the way the market is it could get cheaper oil from elsewhere

Iffahear say Dangote no need Nigerian crude Dangote??

richmond500:
they receive alot but use it for non fruitless thing, even if they receive a billion dollars, we will still not grow

Lagos didn't have oil when it grew like this, all we need is competent leaders

They received alot how? Do you know how Nigeria government have collected from the niger Delta to develop abj and lag..compare it to what they've given the owners of the resources.

Boss469:
They received alot how? Do you know how Nigeria government have collected from the niger Delta to develop abj and lag..compare it to what they've given the owners of the resources.

Wasnt money given to ND? Where are the NDDC, where is the 13% derivation, where is the money for security votes, where is the huge allocations?

We always have someone else to blame.

Federal character...

Weting again una wan do with another refinery? All the illegal refineries in SS are not enough?

By the way, crude oil dey Lagos too.

Acidosis:
Oh really? I hope you weren't among the Yoruba Ronu crew?? Yorubas won elections in the US but here in Nigeria, Igbos and South South people couldn't vote in Lagos.


Do you now realise what bigotry can do? If Niger Delta folks decide to blow up everything in the name of "ronu", how and where will Dangote get is oil in the short term?

No be una dy call lagos no man’s land. My community for kaduna, na Yoruba plenty for there pass because it have a lot of organisations and ministries. But we Yoruba never for once tell hausa that that place is no man’s land. Even if a Yoruba man contest for a concellor or chairmanship position he will win cos of our population but we don’t do that, it is still the Hausas that contest for everything. During there local elections like governorship elections, 90% of Yorubas don’t even vote. Is only because tinubu contest this time around that many of us even vote and they respect us because of this. Respect is reciprocal, you guys should learn how to reap people

Babathanks:
No be una dy call lagos no man’s land. My community for kaduna, na Yoruba plenty for there pass because it have a lot of organisations and ministries. But we Yoruba never for once tell hausa that that place is no man’s land. Even if a Yoruba man contest for a concellor or chairmanship position he will win cos of our population but we don’t do that, it is still the Hausas that contest for everything. During there local elections like governorship elections, 90% of Yorubas don’t even vote. Is only because tinubu contest this time around that many of us even vote and they respect us because of this. Respect is reciprocal, you guys should learn how to reap people

Your decision to avoid elections in Kaduna isn't necessarily related to respect for your host but the fear of getting lynched made you and your folks to be less ambitious. I have relatives in Kaduna too and I understand how many of them lived and still live in fear. That is not an ideal society but I bet your consciousness has been remotely altered to internalise and embrace wrongdoings and suppression (Aka Stockholm syndrome).

Abi you have not asked yourself why yoruba people contest and vote in the UK and U.S. The Yorubas in the UK don't "have respect abi?"

You should be worried that you can't exercise your rights in your own country, whether you live in Kutuwenji or Kafancha.

richmond500:
Wasnt money given to ND? Where are the NDDC, where is the 13% derivation, where is the money for security votes, where is the huge allocations?

We always have someone else to blame.

Compare it to what have been used to develop the two states and other states in the north.

FYI I want them to scrap nddc. Cos they are corrupt.

Acidosis:
Iffahear say Dangote no need Nigerian crude Dangote??

so he won't pay for the oil ?If he gets Niger Delta oil They will dash him?