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wis3:
fantasies of a zombidiots. 🙄

It doesn't really matter, what we are waiting is for the law to take it's place.

Let's know if double Nomination is lawful or Not.

It's not over yet.

garfield1:
Dah guy,you heard from hundeyin and you quickly conclude? Are you aware that the apex court can deliver judgment even on Saturday? Who are the owners of Nigeria? Tinubu is closer to them than anybody else

This is not correct at all. Most Northern Muslim politicians support Atiku in secret but most southern and middle belt elites support Obi. Not as political allies but because of the dangerous precedence a Muslim-muslim ticket would create. Tinubu is not close to anyone, not even buhari. He remains a regional politician.

Penguin2:
Obasanjo doesn’t want Tinubu. He even openly endorsed Obi.

TY Danjuma doesn’t want Tinubu. He co-signed the press statement of Northern Christian Elders in support of Obi.

Aliyu Gusau was one of the Chief strategists of Atiku.

IBB stated openly in a 2021 interview that Nigeria’s next president should be in his 60s; that already envisaged one. Tinubu is above 70.

Who then is Tinubu close to?

Before obj and danjuma emerged,who owned nigeria? Obj and danjuma opposed buhari.gusau is not a factor.who is the British and USA backing? Who is abdulsalam and ibb backing? Gowon nko? The northern establishment, kaduna mafia,sultan,Arthur eze,emeka of for,Eunice kalu?

Armaggedon:
This is not correct at all. Most Northern Muslim politicians support Atiku in secret but most southern and middle belt elites support Obi. Not as political allies but because of the dangerous precedence a Muslim-muslim ticket would create. Tinubu is not close to anyone, not even buhari. He remains a regional politician.

Funny.if most northern muslims support him,why did he win the north? If tinubu is regional,why did he win outside his region

fergie001:
These things are more deeper than we may see or know.

How did they get to the SC?

Exactly my point.

How did the case get to Supreme Court already?

And why did the Supreme Court fix May 26th for Judgment and not 30th or 31st?

Remember that May 26th is Friday while May 29th is Monday.

The implication is that if the Supreme Court sacks Tinubu on Friday, there will be no time for any entity to approach the Supreme Court requesting for interpretation and for a stay of execution of the judgment whilst the interpretation lasts before Monday morning when Tinubu is supposed to be sworn in.

Like I said, I am not expecting the Supreme Court to sack Tinubu but what if….

garfield1:
Before obj and danjuma emerged,who owned nigeria? Obj and danjuma opposed buhari.gusau is not a factor.who is the British and USA backing? Who is abdulsalam and ibb backing? Gowon nko? The northern establishment, kaduna mafia,sultan,Arthur eze,emeka of for,Eunice kalu?

Lol!

I already gave IBB’s submission and you are still asking who he’s supporting?

And it’s funny how you ruled out Aliyu Gusau as not being a factor but counted Eunice Kalu as a factor. Eunice Kalu that was merely IBB side chick is more of a factor in Nigeria than General Aliyu Gusau?

And you really think the Kaduna Mafia or the Sultan chose Tinubu over Atiku?

Again, no one can say where the US or the UK stood but I would take a bet that they weren’t with Tinubu.

garfield1:
Funny.if most northern muslims support him,why did he win the north? If tinubu is regional,why did he win outside his region

Money! Money was heavily shared. Despite kwankwaso playing the spoiler, Tinubu won very narrowly in the north and lost scandalously in the SE/SS. Remember this is the incumbent party candidate. But he lost Lagos, Abuja Portharcourt and Kano. No president can govern effectively if he didn't win SE/SS Abuja and Lagos where you have the most educated, vocal and economically visible population.

Penguin2:
Lol!

I already gave IBB’s submission and you are still asking who he’s supporting?

And it’s funny how you ruled out Aliyu Gusau as not being a factor but counted Eunice Kalu as a factor. Eunice Kalu that was merely IBB side chick is more of a factor in Nigeria than General Aliyu Gusau?

And you really think the Kaduna Mafia or the Sultan chose Tinubu over Atiku?

Again, no one can say where the US or the UK stood but I would take a bet that they weren’t with Tinubu.

All the owners were divided and the people spoke

Armaggedon:
Money! Money was heavily shared. Despite kwankwaso playing the spoiler, Tinubu won very narrowly in the north and lost scandalously in the SE/SS. Remember this is the incumbent party candidate. But he lost Lagos, Abuja Portharcourt and Kano. No president can govern effectively if he didn't win SE/SS Abuja and Lagos where you have the most educated, vocal and economically visible population.

He only lost scandalously in se not ss.money was not heavily shared in the north,they simply wanted him.if the north dont want you,they dont want you just like the se.he lost narrowly in ss.the States you win doesnt matter but your votes and spread.he lost Lagos narrowly.

garfield1:
He only lost scandalously in se not ss.money was not heavily shared in the north,they simply wanted him.if the north dont want you,they dont want you just like the se.he lost narrowly in ss.the States you win doesnt matter but your votes and spread.he lost Lagos narrowly.

He won only one state in the SS + Rivers which is only official because everyone knows labour won in Rivers by landslide. There is no zone he one by landslide which is scandalous for a ruling party with structure and money.

Armaggedon:
He won only one state in the SS + Rivers which is only official because everyone knows labour won in Rivers by landslide. There is no zone he one by landslide which is scandalous for a ruling party with structure and money.

You are funny.he didnt need to win any se ss state,just needed 25% in some.he did not win landslide because buhari performed abysmally .it is not scandalous for a ruling party,it is not by force to win.the summary is that he won and oppoe lost

garfield1:
You are funny.he didnt need to win any se ss state,just needed 25% in some.he did not win landslide because buhari performed abysmally .it is not scandalous for a ruling party,it is not by force to win.the summary is that he won and oppoe lost

Yea. It is not by force to win but you can't say someone who couldn't win majority states is acceptable across board. Like I said it is not a legal requirement to win SE/SS including Lagos and Abuja. But any president who loses these places can't govern effectively.

Armaggedon:
Yea. It is not by force to win but you can't say someone who couldn't win majority states is acceptable across board. Like I said it is not a legal requirement to win SE/SS including Lagos and Abuja. But any president who loses these places can't govern effectively.

So someone that cannot win ne nw will be acceptable? Did buhari not rule effectively? You are funny.he has satisfied constitutional demands,thats all

garfield1:
So someone that cannot win ne nw will be acceptable? Did buhari not rule effectively? You are funny.he has satisfied constitutional demands,thats all

where did you see me say Obi or any other person unable to win NE and NW is acceptable? You are the one trying to make it look like Tinubu has allies across board which is not true.

Again, it's not about meeting the legal requirements (assuming he did). Winning across ethnic and religious divides will give you the strong mandate to keep the country in peace. Buhari once called SE/SS 5% but soon found his administration struggling to assert it's influence in many parts of the country. Niger Delta avengers, unknown gunmen, endsars are all signs of resentment. Sotey he was embarrassingly banned by Twitter. If he knew he would wish to exit government 6 months to the end of his tenure, he would have adopted a more conciliatory approach. Tinubu is even more divisive than buhari and looks more unpopular. It will be extremely difficult for him.

seunmsg:
The court of appeal already dismissed this matter and the Supreme Court will follow suit. The case is dead on arrival since it is not the business of PDP to determine who APC nominates or not. PDP lacks the locus to institute the case and they are nothing but a meddlesome busybody.

You sound Naive.

Appeal court can dismiss whatever they want to dismiss, but the Law cannot be dismissed.

PDP doesn't have the locus standi to call out an electoral misnomer that the law condemns?
So if your Neighbor violates the law, and you sues him, he would tell you that you didn't have the locus to sue him because you are not a member of his household? The law is the law.

That appeal court dismissed it is a story for another day.

In 2019, supreme court ruled exactly on this same issue which affected David Lyon.

Arms are crossed, the tension and patience is about to reach it's elastic limit.

IGBOGENE27:
In that situation, either the petitioner will be asked to amend his petition to make Atiku & INEC, the Respondent based on the Judgement, or APC & Tinubu's name would be struck out, leaving out only INEC as a Respondent. But, the 1st option is imminent, in the circumstance.

However, I doubt the possibility of SC sacking Tinubu and APC, based on Shettima's double nomination. My reason is that, since it was brought as a pre-election matter, PDP, does not have the locus standi to institute the action. They should have waited till after election, to bring it by way of post election matter. Should the suit be dismissed for lack of locus standi, Shettima will still have to battle double nomination at the post election matters before the PEPT, where the court will decide it on the merit.

My question is, pre election matters cases have been thrown out in many courts across the land in time past and I remembered that this particular case was thrown out in two courts (a Federal High Court and Court of Appeal) how come now the Supreme Court has reserved judgment on it as a result of APC's lawyer admittance that double nominations was committed by Shettima? May 26th may be the beginning of another journey.....we wait

fergie001:
The issue of jurisdiction will be addressed first.

Yes, but for wrong admittance by APC's lawyers that indeed Shettima had double nominations prompted a likely unfavourable judgment against APC on May 26.....you mind checking this robust post out? https://www.nairaland.com/7700144/pdp-vs-apc-supreme-court

Armaggedon:
Yea. It is not by force to win but you can't say someone who couldn't win majority states is acceptable across board. Like I said it is not a legal requirement to win SE/SS including Lagos and Abuja. But any president who loses these places can't govern effectively.

Nice points kindly visit this place for more exposures https://www.nairaland.com/7700144/pdp-vs-apc-supreme-court

Penguin2:
Exactly my point.

How did the case get to Supreme Court already?

And why did the Supreme Court fix May 26th for Judgment and not 30th or 31st?

Remember that May 26th is Friday while May 29th is Monday.

The implication is that if the Supreme Court sacks Tinubu on Friday, there will be no time for any entity to approach the Supreme Court requesting for interpretation and for a stay of execution of the judgment whilst the interpretation lasts before Monday morning when Tinubu is supposed to be sworn in.

Like I said, I am not expecting the Supreme Court to sack Tinubu but what if….

The likelihood of Tinubu being sacked due to Shettima's double nomination is high here....like you opened this piece with the question, how did this case get to the Supreme Court? Despite being thrown out by FHC and CoA you may want to visit;https://www.nairaland.com/7700144/pdp-vs-apc-supreme-court for more robust briefing

IGBOGENE27:
In that situation, either the petitioner will be asked to amend his petition to make Atiku & INEC, the Respondent based on the Judgement, or APC & Tinubu's name would be struck out, leaving out only INEC as a Respondent. But, the 1st option is imminent, in the circumstance.

However, I doubt the possibility of SC sacking Tinubu and APC, based on Shettima's double nomination. My reason is that, since it was brought as a pre-election matter, PDP, does not have the locus standi to institute the action. They should have waited till after election, to bring it by way of post election matter. Should the suit be dismissed for lack of locus standi, Shettima will still have to battle double nomination at the post election matters before the PEPT, where the court will decide it on the merit.

Nice response, visit this link for further briefing https://www.nairaland.com/7700144/pdp-vs-apc-supreme-court

DaTruths:
You sound Naive.

Appeal court can dismiss whatever they want to dismiss, but the Law cannot be dismissed.

PDP doesn't have the locus standi to call out an electoral misnomer that the law condemns?
So if your Neighbor violates the law, and you sues him, he would tell you that you didn't have the locus to sue him because you are not a member of his household? The law is the law.

That appeal court dismissed it is a story for another day.

In 2019, supreme court ruled exactly on this same issue which affected David Lyon.

Arms are crossed, the tension and patience is about to reach it's elastic limit.

No mind am, check this link out for a more robust debate and exposure https://www.nairaland.com/7700144/pdp-vs-apc-supreme-court

garfield1:
Funny.if most northern muslims support him,why did he win the north? If tinubu is regional,why did he win outside his region

You wanna know more? Check this out fast...https://www.nairaland.com/7700144/pdp-vs-apc-supreme-court

garfield1:
My brother,you are legally sound.you should be commenting more.
While it appears that pre election cases are now a party affair,dont you think the electoral act left a small window for candidates to challenge few cases like in this case as it wasn't covered under section 29?

The issue of double nomination, which is the bone of contention at the SC, falls under Section 35 of the Electoral Act 2022, and it provides as follows:

"35. Where a candidate knowingly allows himself to be nominated by
more than one political party or in more than one constituency, his nomination
shall be void."

From the above section, you ll agree with me that the Legislators used the word *Candidate* instead of the word *an aspirant*. Therefore, if I am to argue in favour of Atiku, I ll go by way of literal interpretation of the law, and opine that, the Act, having used the word a Candidate, means that it has gone beyond party affairs, because a candidate is used, where a political party has concluded it's primary and produced a winner that will contest against other political party candidates. That if the Act had intended it to be an internal party affairs, the word ASPIRANT would have been repeatedly used, as seen in Section 29.

With the above line of reasoning duly canvassed and supported with judicial meanings of a candidate and an aspirant, the court may likely hold that truly PDP/Atiku has the locus standi to institute the suit.

This is my opinion though, which we all know that, the court has the final say, and will decide based on the arguments canvassed before it.

IGBOGENE27:
The issue of double nomination, which is the bone of contention at the SC, falls under Section 35 of the Electoral Act 2022, and it provides as follows:

"35. Where a candidate knowingly allows himself to be nominated by
more than one political party or in more than one constituency, his nomination
shall be void."

From the above section, you ll agree with me that the Legislators used the word *Candidate* instead of the word *an aspirant*. Therefore, if I am to argue in favour of Atiku, I ll go by way of literal interpretation of the law, and opine that, the Act, having used the word a Candidate, means that it has gone beyond party affairs, because a candidate is used, where a political party has concluded it's primary and produced a winner that will contest against other political party candidates. That if the Act had intended it to be an internal party affairs, the word ASPIRANT would have been repeatedly used, as seen in Section 29.

With the above line of reasoning duly canvassed and supported with judicial meanings of a candidate and an aspirant, the court may likely hold that truly PDP/Atiku has the locus standi to institute the suit.

This is my opinion though, which we all know that, the court has the final say, and will decide based on the arguments canvassed before it.

You are good trust me

Ratello:
The likelihood of Tinubu being sacked due to Shettima's double nomination is high here....like you opened this piece with the question, how did this case get to the Supreme Court? Despite being thrown out by FHC and CoA you may want to visit;https://www.nairaland.com/7700144/pdp-vs-apc-supreme-court for more robust briefing

Thank you!

I’ll take my time to go through the thread.

Ratello:
You are good trust me

Thank you Sir.

Penguin2:
They did then because there was a president Buhari who is still in power. But by May 26th, Buhari would be merely 48hrs away from power.

Again, I’m sure they feared Tinubu might win the election fair and square with no troubles around his election.

But seeing that Buhari is on his way out (48 hours is not enough to witch-hunt judges), and seeing that INEC fraudulently declared Tinubu, the judges might want to judicial activists and save Nigeria from a Tinubu disaster.

The next most likely persons to benefit from that judgment would be either Atiku or Obi.

Now, why would they fear harassment from Obi or Atiku?

Hmmmmmm


May 26th

What a day filled with Uncertainty by Nigeria Politicians

Penguin2:
Lol!

I already gave IBB’s submission and you are still asking who he’s supporting?

And it’s funny how you ruled out Aliyu Gusau as not being a factor but counted Eunice Kalu as a factor. Eunice Kalu that was merely IBB side chick is more of a factor in Nigeria than General Aliyu Gusau?

And you really think the Kaduna Mafia or the Sultan chose Tinubu over Atiku?

Again, no one can say where the US or the UK stood but I would take a bet that they weren’t with Tinubu.

Keep deceiving yourself as usual penguin2.

engineerboat:
Hmmmmmm


May 26th

What a day filled with Uncertainty by Nigeria Politicians

What uncertainty?

IGBOGENE27:
The issue of double nomination, which is the bone of contention at the SC, falls under Section 35 of the Electoral Act 2022, and it provides as follows:

"35. Where a candidate knowingly allows himself to be nominated by
more than one political party or in more than one constituency, his nomination
shall be void."

From the above section, you ll agree with me that the Legislators used the word *Candidate* instead of the word *an aspirant*. Therefore, if I am to argue in favour of Atiku, I ll go by way of literal interpretation of the law, and opine that, the Act, having used the word a Candidate, means that it has gone beyond party affairs, because a candidate is used, where a political party has concluded it's primary and produced a winner that will contest against other political party candidates. That if the Act had intended it to be an internal party affairs, the word ASPIRANT would have been repeatedly used, as seen in Section 29.

With the above line of reasoning duly canvassed and supported with judicial meanings of a candidate and an aspirant, the court may likely hold that truly PDP/Atiku has the locus standi to institute the suit.

This is my opinion though, which we all know that, the court has the final say, and will decide based on the arguments canvassed before it.

Candidate & Aspirant are the same thing, let sleeping dogs lie, same thing applies to Peter Obi The Apga Judas, The Laborious parry did not organize any purported Aspirant election, neither did it field a legitimate candidate.

engineerboat:
Hmmmmmm


May 26th

What a day filled with Uncertainty by Nigeria Politicians

Lol!

Somebody made a point…

Why did SC reserve judgment if they don’t intend to do something funny?

Why did they not throw the case out immediately if they felt it had no merit?

Like I said, I’m not saying I’m sure of anything but Tinubu and his men have valid reasons to be jittery.