₦airaland Forum

raumdeuter:
Okay we accept. Herdsmen and bandit never killed anyone before Buhari. They only started during Buhari times. When Jonathan was president the entire Northcentral was peaceful without any herdmen bandit killing

Yet na you go say person dey turn

raumdeuter:
You mean the trains, the bridge, the roads have no economic impact on those using the road?

Maybe we should stop asking govt to do roads then since they have no impact

Let them remove the existing roads so we can test the economic impact theory

BlueRayDick:
That’s exactly what u are doing . U can’t fault the the data and the source , so u resort to whataboutism by playing around the issue being discussed .

raumdeuter:
So people whose houses and farms have been destroyed will just return
There are refugee from Liberian war Sierraleone war, Iraq war Afghanistan war that have not returned home till date

What is the scale of Bokoharam in 2013 compared to now?

Is that progress or not?

iamoyindamola:
What is the scale of herdsmen killing since buhari take over
Is that progress or not

If borno was peaceful soldiers should be going after herdsmen in kaduna and jos

Shaytun:
FDI under Buhari.

2015 = 3.06B
2016 = 3.45B
2017 = 2.41B
2018 = 780 million dollars
2019 = 2.3B
2020 = 2.4B
2021 = 4.8B

Total = 19.2B

Note: Nigeria went through a recession, a Global Pandemic , a lower oil price and insecurity Under Buhari.

FDI under Jonathan
2010 = 6.03B
2011 = 8.84B
2012 = 7.07B
2013 = 5.56B
2014 = 4.69B
2015 = 3.06B

Total = 35.25B

Note: Nigeria was in an active state of terrorism, a higher oil price Under Jonathan.

Shaytun:
FDI under Buhari.

2015 = 3.06B
2016 = 3.45B
2017 = 2.41B
2018 = 780 million dollars
2019 = 2.3B
2020 = 2.4B
2021 = 4.8B

Total = 19.2B

Note: Nigeria went through a recession, a Global Pandemic , a lower oil price and insecurity Under Buhari.

FDI under Jonathan
2010 = 6.03B
2011 = 8.84B
2012 = 7.07B
2013 = 5.56B
2014 = 4.69B
2015 = 3.06B

Total = 35.25B

Note: Nigeria was in an active state of terrorism, a higher oil price Under Jonathan.

raumdeuter:
You can't discuss data without a starting point

You are in finance, you can't say this is the ending balance without knowing the starting balance

What you have done in basic accounting is giving us a balance sheet without a brought forward figure

If Buhari had 1m herdsmen death, what was it before him so we can know if the 1m is an improvement or worse

If you say after running a company for 8yrs you have a value of 10bn, what most people will want to know is what was the value before you took over. Without that figure you haven't provided any important info

Because someone who inherited 100bn left 10bn is not same as someone who inherited 1bn and left 10bn

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Buhari will handle security

Osibanjo will handle economy

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BlueRayDick:
lol.

U see , u just continued where u stopped ; playing around the point . So much paragraphs and yet none telling us how Buhari didn’t fail in the area of security .

Almost every living Nigerian knows Jonathan was sacked due to many reasons chief of which is how Boko Haram ravaged the north east .

What do we have today ? A less active Boko Haram in the northeast ( kudos to Buhari ) , Bandits lording over people in the north west(Some communities even pay ransome to be able to farm ) Killer herdsmen doing their thing in the North central and some parts of south west , IPOB and kidnappers doing their thing in the South east .

We’ve seen Bandits attack Airport, Nigerian defence academy , railway , and even presidential convoy ! All under Buhari’s watch . These are the issues up for discussion, not whataboutism here and there .

It is buhari that is handing over on Monday and up for assessment and not Jonathan.

BlueRayDick:
lol.

U see , u just continued where u stopped ; playing around the point . So much paragraphs and yet none telling us how Buhari didn’t fail in the area of security .

Almost every living Nigerian knows Jonathan was sacked due to many reasons chief of which is how Boko Haram ravaged the north east .

What do we have today ? A less active Boko Haram in the northeast ( kudos to Buhari ) , Bandits lording over people in the north west(Some communities even pay ransome to be able to farm ) Killer herdsmen doing their thing in the North central and some parts of south west , IPOB and kidnappers doing their thing in the South east .

We’ve seen Bandits attack Airport, Nigerian defence academy , railway , and even presidential convoy ! All under Buhari’s watch . These are the issues up for discussion, not whataboutism here and there .

It is buhari that is handing over on Monday and up for assessment and not Jonathan.

raumdeuter:
Now list out with the same detail the security issues under Jonathan

Let's see

raumdeuter:
Bokoharam has reduced that is progress

Herdsmen have increased that is negative

Is this true or not

liveLongNprospa:
Lmao... Don't worry.. Tinubu will source for money through investments

larride:
Some line of arguments dey always amuse me tho.

iamoyindamola:
Because the news stopped reporting stories of BH attack it as reduced and the soldiers are always doing live videos of attacks in borno
Who should we believe you or the soldiers

liveLongNprospa:
Which line of arguments my well respected elder brother..

Point am out🤲

larride:
Nah. Make I just dey observe.

larride:
Some line of arguments dey always amuse me tho.

liveLongNprospa:
As I speak to you our FDI is under 500 million dollars 🤭

iamoyindamola:
Nobody is causing havoc yet we have IDP camps litters in borno
Soldiers are getting deployed every year

iamoyindamola:
What economic impact has the road generated?
What road are talking about here?

Shaytun:
People here don’t want to argue based on data and statistics.

Both based on emotion and sentiment, engaging in those kinds of arguments will lead nowhere.

The Quality of Engagement is really appalling and speaks to a low IQ level or substandard education.

From readily available data that anyone that is really interested in appraising Buhari performance can check.

It’s obvious Buhari performed woefully in both Micro and Macro economics, most of his economic policies have not stood the test of times e.g N-Power, TraderMoni, Agricultural revolution, employment creation, inflation figures, investment both foreign and domestic.

But they are also areas where he did well. Like infrastructure and Military.

Note: Military is not equal to security.

Shaytun:
What does this even mean?