₦airaland Forum

Jeffy1206:
Oga! You don't have to make it a law before favouring the indigenes of a particular place... Make it law a law, it will run contrary to the provisions of the Constitution. N.B I'm from Benue State. Stop using everybody to be igbo when they oppose obnoxious policies from your tribe. 😡😕😕 In Benue, we have 3 major speaking tribes amongst others and you want them to make law and say... Employ 30 indigenes across the state and the rest 2 spots to any other tribes in Benue. How does this sound to you? Anyways, it won't see the light of day...

Jeffy1206:
for the record, I don't live in Lagos. That slum of an area threatened with water or flood every year? The way you people dey over rate this una lagos sha de baffle me 🤣🤣. Come Abuja and live beta life 😜😜😜. Good roads, cheap food, no over inflated House rents, 🤔🤔 plenty things to mention... I'm just hoping that your agberos from Lagos no go come drag Abuja for us o. 😏😕

Ttipsy:
you are supporting your Yoruba brother; didn't you saw how he used abusive words on me also??

nnamdi640:
You guys foolishness will put you on bad side soon. We already know that you don't have land to sell again, all you want to do is to forcefully collect from the ones you sold out and all this excuses you are giving that somebody said this or that concising Lagos is just a tactics. Criminality and propaganda is the DNA used to classify people that act in the way you guys are acting. Dullard thinks they can use senseless tactics to collect back what they already sold off.

goslowgoslow:
You have nothing sensible to say except criminal, sell land ya ya ya ........The last time una see "ORO" run next time na "SOPONO"
EFULEFU! you are uneducated if not you wouldn't say Yorubas wants to take back the land they sold when most of the sales have legal backings....bro stop being daft.
We don't need no land respect your host period that is what we saying, stop doing rubbish we cannot do on Igbo land in Yoruba land.

ginggerxy:
You people Sha want to bring Lagos to it's kneels

nnamdi640:
Did you hear or see where Igbos were fighting your people or destroying your properties in your land. All this your propaganda is just an avenue to collect what you sold. Olebarawo!!!

Jagungidi:
Bro, the history is hidden for a reason. This is what real indigenes of Florida and parts of California looked like.

The United States paid bounty hunters (any white with a gun) $12 for every male scalp and $6 for women ones, they paid a little change for children’s scalp or the ones that were alive got fed to alligators.

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/nov/15/new-england-once-hunted-and-humans-for-money-were-descendents-of-the-survivors

^^ you would have to dive deep into research journals, newspaper articles published during those times to get the full gist because attempts have been made and continued to be made to hide these unfortunate events and true identities of the people involved.

Jagungidi:
Bro, the history is hidden for a reason. This is what real indigenes of Florida and parts of California looked like.

The United States paid bounty hunters (any white with a gun) $12 for every male scalp and $6 for women ones, they paid a little change for children’s scalp or the ones that were alive got fed to alligators.

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/nov/15/new-england-once-hunted-and-humans-for-money-were-descendents-of-the-survivors

^^ you would have to dive deep into research journals, newspaper articles published during those times to get the full gist because attempts have been made and continued to be made to hide these unfortunate events and true identities of the people involved.

Librason:
The Gbadebo issue is purely political!
They just capitalised on ethnicity and Lagos is no man's land mantra and the flaws of those who holds such insane position.
Those who stopped him are APC, even thugs from any part of the country could have been paid to carry out such service , as long as money is involved , including Yoruba thugs of course
Just like wike stopped people in Rivers and what is obtainable in other states.

Those who voted for Obi in the presidential election and could have voted for Gbadebo in the gubernatorial election are also those Lagos based Ondo, Oyo e .t.c indigenes you mentioned .

So don't mix the two, if you are fighting APC go ahead and fight them but don't make Yoruba people your problem or is Lagos not Yoruba land? even though a lot of them in Lagos still assisted Obi in winning Lagos before APC thugs came and hijack the governorship election.

Jogs1900:
Gbadegbo is a Lagosian like Chukwudi, Adamu and Okon but not of Lagos origin.His origin is not Yoruba.

cktheluckyman:
But Peter Obi an Igbo man won virtually the entire states across southern Nigeria

kcnwaigbo:
Very soon only oyel money from Ondo state will be used to run the SW

XAUBulls:
Thanks for the great feedback and adding more meat to the topic @Creeper.

Ah! Indeed, I have a fantastic YouTube documentary video made by Mr. Tunde Kelani about the history of Porto Novo (Ajase Ile) which is a Yoruba city in Benin Republic. The Oba of Ajase Ile told Tunde Kelani that his ancestors migrated from Iseyin to establish Ajase otherwise called Porto Novo centuries back.

What also interested me was his reference to how the Yorubas of Ajase allowed the Ogus to settle in their midst. The Ogus were said to be related to the indigenous Yoruba of Ajase so they welcomed them.

I made reference to the above because you alluded to the Oyo and Ogu relationship in the Badagry axis. The Aworis and Ogus are indigenes of Badagry LGA which is distinct from Badagry town though.


I'll check up the Viola Davis and John Boyega movie recommendation below too.
"THE WOMAN KING – Official Trailer (HD)"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RDaPV_rJ1Y



Thanks again for the deep insights.




P.S. @Creeper... Here's the documentary video of Tunde Kelani's visit to the Yoruba city of Ajase Ile [Porto Novo] in Benin Republic. The Oba of Ajase was interviewed and he indicated that their ancestors migrated originally from Iseyin in Oyo State to establish Ajase Ile.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzhbLwYQBgk

Librason:
I am not, even though I don't make contributions based on being Yoruba or not Yoruba.
Sorry for his abusive words then.

kcnwaigbo:
I hope you realize Chinese are not Americans? That analogy cannot fly.Show me where Florida banned sale of lands to another American States

kcnwaigbo:
I hope you realize Chinese are not Americans? That analogy cannot fly.Show me where Florida banned sale of lands to another American States

JohnBullMySon:
Yes America belongs to them as long as they're US citizens. That's why its a first world country. We don't think like you please.

goslowgoslow:
Bros l will not allow people to do on my land what I cannot do on their land PERIOD!
I bought land from Ikwerre man in Port Harcourt does that mean Rivers is now no man's land? Why is that they do all these only on Yoruba land? The Igbos have so many properties in the North, have you ever heard them say anywhere in the North is no man's land? Who born them?
Have you ever heard any other tribe call Lagos no man's land despite their strong presence? Na only Igbo....but you can't do that in their land, very hostile people.
I am Yoruba I love everybody but we are too accommodating to a fault yet they call us tribalist! But now how eyes don open!

Librason:
First and foremost, don't oppose the notion that Red Indians/American Indian/Native American e.t.c are the aborigines.

Secondly, I know about the cruelty of White supremacists/Europeans , the story and the history are not hidden and are well documented, infact you yourself can access some of them.

The White supremacists/Europeans were brutal during expansionism period where they dominated the American Indians resisting their expansions across United States , their land taken , some of them were killed, e t.c

Thirdly, just like abolition of slave trade, the story you made reference to is not what is obtainable today, that's what we are saying and the reason I made mention of 16th century.
Laws have been modified several times to accommodate the interests of the indegenes amongst other modern and humane laws.

ginggerxy:
I Don't think igbo recently said anything like that. This thing was quoted to have been said by jaja wachukwu in the 1950s before so many people you are trying to frustrate today were born, the repeat of that statement was made by lateef jakande a former Lagos State governor in his inaugural speech made that statement . he said Lagos is no man's land which he goes further to explain that Lagos State is a home of opportunities for all , and not actually saying that Lagos State doesn't belong to Yorubas. It's only infiriority complex will make any Yoruba man misinterpret that statement to mean Yorubas don't own Lagos. You people brought it up in the last election to create hatred for Igbos because they were not willing to vote for APC . How would expect them to ? Are you okay with the level of damage APC has done to the country? Just imagine the level of psychological damage they have done to you. So say Igbos are hostile towards you in the west? But it's your people always attacking the Igbos burning their business and killing the ones you can kill. Well I don't really blame you people there has not been any retaliation that's why you continue to attack them. You talk about selling of land to the Igbos , it's a law that if you sell your property to another person you have lost your legal claims to that property, and again it's not because you sold land to the Igbos that made Jaja nwachukwu or lateef jakande to say Lagos is no man's land. If Igbos want to lay claim, why didn't the Igbos say Lagos is own by the Igbos instead of saying Lagos is no man's land ? Will you buy property and turn around to say no man owns the property? You're psychologically damaged by the Lagos APC hate polictics , and so are many of you. You even said it yourself that Igbos buy properties in other places even in other southwestern states but never said the place belongs to the owners. The psychologically effect of APC hate polictics will take longer than we expected to cure and might require the intervention psychiatrist at some point .

ginggerxy:
I Don't think igbo recently said anything like that. This thing was quoted to have been said by jaja wachukwu in the 1950s before so many people you are trying to frustrate today were born, the repeat of that statement was made by lateef jakande a former Lagos State governor in his inaugural speech made that statement . he said Lagos is no man's land which he goes further to explain that Lagos State is a home of opportunities for all , and not actually saying that Lagos State doesn't belong to Yorubas. It's only infiriority complex will make any Yoruba man misinterpret that statement to mean Yorubas don't own Lagos. You people brought it up in the last election to create hatred for Igbos because they were not willing to vote for APC . How would expect them to ? Are you okay with the level of damage APC has done to the country? Just imagine the level of psychological damage they have done to you. So say Igbos are hostile towards you in the west? But it's your people always attacking the Igbos burning their business and killing the ones you can kill. Well I don't really blame you people there has not been any retaliation that's why you continue to attack them. You talk about selling of land to the Igbos , it's a law that if you sell your property to another person you have lost your legal claims to that property, and again it's not because you sold land to the Igbos that made Jaja nwachukwu or lateef jakande to say Lagos is no man's land. If Igbos want to lay claim, why didn't the Igbos say Lagos is own by the Igbos instead of saying Lagos is no man's land ? Will you buy property and turn around to say no man owns the property? You're psychologically damaged by the Lagos APC hate polictics , and so are many of you. You even said it yourself that Igbos buy properties in other places even in other southwestern states but never said the place belongs to the owners. The psychologically effect of APC hate polictics will take longer than we expected to cure and might require the intervention psychiatrist at some point .

Jagungidi:
don’t tell me what and what not to oppose. You are the one refusing to be knowledgeable here. The history IS HIDDEN. You’d have to jump through hoops and really dig DEEP to get to the real history. What you know is the white washing and propaganda that have been fed to you.

The fact of the matter here is no favourable policies were made for the REAL INDIGENES. Why? Because they all got hunted down one by one men, women and children and got wiped out! The red whatever you see today are not true indigenes. Go research how the term Native American came about, it was white people that named themselves native Americans because they were born there, it was their way of distinguishing themselves from the recent pilgrims that entered America at the time.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJmrp14XV3c

Jagungidi:
don’t tell me what and what not to oppose. You are the one refusing to be knowledgeable here. The history IS HIDDEN. You’d have to jump through hoops and really dig DEEP to get to the real history. What you know is the white washing and propaganda that have been fed to you.

The fact of the matter here is no favourable policies were made for the REAL INDIGENES. Why? Because they all got hunted down one by one men, women and children and got wiped out! The red whatever you see today are not true indigenes. Go research how the term Native American came about, it was white people that named themselves native Americans because they were born there, it was their way of distinguishing themselves from the recent pilgrims that entered America at the time.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJmrp14XV3c

mauchiz:
Is not Yoruba people,is Lagos people,
Imo state indigenes cant go and take over Abia state or Anambra state.
Other Yoruba states should take note,Lagos state has indigenes and should be allowed to rule there states,not Yoruba people taking over other people state.

Sermwell:
It is no man's land and that's why Tinubu and Sanwo olu can become governors of the state!

Jagungidi:
Yes that’s correct

I’m glad you are now finally starting to reason with sense

You can make laws for immigrants, permanent resident holders, naturalised citizens, and indigenes yes you are very correct on that and there is nothing dumb about that.

The reason why you don’t see that in the US however is because they killed off the indigenes. Even the so called native Americans are not indigenes, America doesn’t make laws favourable to the indigenes because they are not indigenes. So America focuses on residents.

Nigeria is totally and completely different from America in that regard. In Nigeria state of origin will always matter because of this fact.

goslowgoslow:
Lol...😂😂😂😂 On top of " go to court" see wailing! Person wey dey live for kubwa, Mararaba, Jikwoi, Zuba. etc dey claim Abuja...bros I know you!
Meanwhile please turn your attention to those who sees nothing in Lagos but yet migrate there everyday. Thank you sir.

Librason:
Ogbeni! Who told you laws can't be made to address diversity within a state? the federal character that ensures that one person per state is given ministerial appointment across the country is a similar case, if not for that will Buhari not tilt the appointment badly in favour of the north? since so many of his non - federal - character appointment is one sided and they accused him of that, which he apologized for.
"make it a law, it will run contrary of the constitution bla, bla, bla...if something is practised now and federal government has not moved against anybody, you are saying state can't make their laws.

it's not all you do in your State Benue than you can do in Kano or Zamfara state, then you will cry to the Federal Government thay they don't allow you to eat publicly during fasting, take beer , sell this or that because it's in the constitution that you can do whatever you want to do in any part of the country as long as you are a Nigerian ok ;

Your state Benue is being dominated by Tivs and other tribes are crying , may be sensible legislation will help put things in fairness for all tribes, fairness for all, and reduction in animosity and bloodshed.

I don't know the reason for this apprehension, a state just want to make things more statutory for the benefits of it's indigenes and outsiders are worried, does it mean they will seize your bread?

And I don't care if you are Igbo or from Benue (although there are indigenous Igbo in Benue), all I care for is the issue on ground and not about being Yoruba or not.

nnamdi640:
Law wey no go carry water. You can't sell your land to someone else and still want to claim ownership. Hope the court will do the needful when you try any rubbish. What am seeing is people that want to shoot their own selves, this will make other states to target your own people.

Jeffy1206:
the places you just mentioned are far better than ur lagos. Organise building plan, cheap houses with large kitchen and toilets separate. Unlike your lagos that combine toilet and kitchen 🤮🤮🤮🤮.

Librason:
You are a silly being, an unwavering idiot , who are just being egoistic in Ignorance.
How can you move against fact.
Opinion is different from fact .
Opinions may differ but fact is sacrosanct.
Example , you must be foolish to say the current president of Nigeria is not Bola Tinubu.
And equally foolish to say Alex Otti is not the governor of Abia state.
Because the above are facts.
But however anyone can have an opinion e g marrying a white lady is better than black lady vice versa.
So it's absolutely false , to say native Americans. American Indians , Red Indians
are not terms used for the aborigines.
Which stupid lie are you telling? even if you find yourself in America today, you can aspire to become a governor and any child you give birth to over there can become president that's the law, does that make your children native Americans.
Native Americans are the red Indians and not this senseless and baselees lies you are formulating, just to propagate false argument, what's the ego in agree to facts.

Which yeye story is hidden, what have they done to red Indians that have not been done to blacks.
Is it killing them and what not....you can even formulate an ugly imaginary stories to create a gory situation , the fact is that all these cruelty are not new, white supremacists did all these to other race/tribes. That was primitive era not now.
There were periods blacks and other minorities could not vote, let alone one of them becoming the president (Obama).
Evolution in laws and society overtime has been achieved.
You can choose to be picking all the negatives story in the dark ages and ignore or be blind to the later modern and humane development, it's your bias.
Even your fore fathers in your part of the country also had their cruel moment in the past/primitive era.
If you say life the way it was is now the way it is, and nothing has changed, you are just being clever by half.
Infact the red Indians still had their moment in killings the white settlers too by removing their scalps in demonstration of victory.
So it was a battle and ugly scenario, but things have changed from what it used to be.
There a whole lot of laws for the recognition and protection of aborigines, do your reading.

goslowgoslow:
Yorubas tolerate a lot, go Kano go tell them say na no man's land I promise you, you will not see tomorrow . That answers your comment as to why it is only in Yoruba land.
We tolerate too much, una don see us finish.

goslowgoslow:
Lol inferiority complex indeed! Yoruba man feel inferior 😂😂😂😂 bros you dey make me laugh who una be? Yorubas have attained so many heights before you people ever think of getting there. Thanks a lot sha for your long comment but it seems to me that you weren't in Nigeria during this past elections if not you will understand that it goes beyond what you are saying.
Thank God for people like you that understood what Jankande meant, most people don't especially Igbos.
Furthermore the last part of your comment is full of gibberish. Tell me any Igbo man that Yoruba man wants to take his land, most of the lands are even sold with legal documents so how easy will that be? You just sounded like the other dude who has limited knowledge. Why are Yorubas not having the same problem with other tribes or are those tribes not buying land and doing business in Lagos? Na only una Igbos!
Mind you I have no hatred for any tribe,my wife is Igbo my kids answer Igbo names but that doesn't mean I will allow some group of people to step our toes. I am not a member or supporter of APC as a party so na u sabi wetin you dey talk. Anybody that speaks out about Igbo is APC! That is not new I don hear am taya.
Like say una dey even sell una own land for person! Very vile tribe! When they hate anybody or a group of people they hate them to the core.