₦airaland Forum

masseratti:
not only hausa land or Yoruba land,a fulani man is the emir of the nupes, fulani never conquered ilorin.. I don't know how many times that will be said to you or you just ignored that part of history, I don't have the luxury to go into that for you right now.. A good research online can help you out with that unless you just want to believe what you want to believe, that said.
Installation of Governments by the fulani didn't go by the way you are terming it, like the fulani just waged war to dispose a king and put their own king on the throne? Just like that?
History did not go that way... What the Fulani used was the same tactics the Arabs used to spread Islam in the Arabian peninsula and North Africa.. It was not that the people on those land were weaker or the other parties were stronger.. They only played politics, theocratic politics... In most cases this fulani assimilate with the locals.. Preach Islam, point out to the people how their kings are living large before you know they gain allies in the local populace wage war against the throne install their own emir.. An emir is the president of the Muslim body in an area and he must be very vast in Koran and hadith, who is more qualified to be the emir if not the person that introduced you to Islam. Hence why naturally most emirs are fulani.. From there they start attacking neighboring kingdoms,to expand their territories and economy, if another great power comes to dislodge the emirate.. The locals will remain the fulani will simply relocate to another place.. Nothing serious or fantastic about any warring nomadic tribe like I said before, and the people they attacked are not coward nor are they weak.. It's just a simple issue of nomadic people vs gatherers... If you can't comprehend this am sorry then I av to rest my case cos you just want unnecessary online arguments.

Fulani emir doesn't coexist with indegenous traditional ruler. It's pure conquest. There are many igbo Bishops outside Igboland but they don't rule over the people like fulani emirs. Fulani emir is supreme overall ruler not head of Islam

Ogene001:
Big lie. When someone conquers you they introduce their government. The land will remain yours but rule by your conquerors

So who are the Fulani ruling Ilorin? Emir of ilorin is a yoruba man, all their politicians are yoruba.
Who are these fulani that you people are always blabbing about, abi they are imaginary?

Fulani has seriously dealt with you people.

waynetee:
So who are the Fulani ruling Ilorin? Emir of ilorin is a yoruba man, all their politicians are yoruba.
Who are these fulani that you people are always blabbing about, abi they are imaginary?

Emir of Ilorin is not yoruba. Why una Sabi lie like this? Is emir stool not hereditary? Where is Oba of Ilorin or any other traditional ruler for that matter?

Ogene001:
So ilorin is not yorubaland?

So Igbo believed they conquered Yorubaland. So they occupied Ondo, Abeokuta, Osun, Akure, Ilesha e.tc Even during the invasion by the Fulanis, some Yorubas town supported them because they also want to be free from excessive taxation by their Obas.

Ogene001:
Emir of Ilorin is not yoruba. Why una Sabi lie like this? Is emir stool not hereditary? Where is Oba of Ilorin or any other traditional ruler for that matter?

There are many Obas in ilorin and Emir Kolapo is a yoruba man.. You obviously don't know what you are saying, you should call bukola saraki fulani too.

Ogene001:
Big lie. When someone conquers you they introduce their government. The land will remain yours but rule by your conquerors

"They conquer you but your lands remain yours" you're confusing or yourself. you don't know the meaning of conquer

tubolancer:
So Igbo believed they conquered Yorubaland.

Which Igbos? Fulani have written about their conquest of Ilorin severally.

waynetee:
There are many Obas in ilorin and Emir Kolapo is a yoruba man.. You obviously don't know what you are saying, you should call bukola saraki fulani too.

Is Saraki a Yoruba name? And the shitty oba yo mentioned is he not under the emir? Meanwhile why are you fraudulently claiming that emir of Ilorin is yoruba?

Ogene001:
Which Igbos? Fulani have written about their conquest of Ilorin severally.

Ilorin not entire Yorubaland, Ilorin is one of the millions tribe and cities in Yorubaland. Are you people wise at all?

waynetee:
"They conquer you but your lands remain yours" you're confusing or yourself. you don't know the meaning of conquer

That's how it is. Conquerors only form the government and their people will rule.

Ogene001:
Is Saraki a Yoruba name? And the shitty oba yo mentioned is he not under the emir? Meanwhile why are you fraudulently claiming that emir of Ilorin is yoruba?

Saraki is an eze name.

tubolancer:
Ilorin not entire Yorubaland, Ilorin is one of the millions tribe and cities in Yorubaland. Are you people wise at all?

Where did I used the word "entire". ?

tubolancer:
Saraki is an eze name.

Olodo, tell us another Saraki in SW. Meanwhile many Sarakis full north

Ogene001:
So you established a new settlement and another person installed his own ruler before you could do so, isn't that pure conquest?

What you dont understand was that Ilorin is a small place in Oyo empire.
Oyo empire is not made of yoruba only so there must be some mishap from time to time.

Can you say because simon ekpa that somehow control igboland now, has conquered Nigeria? or even igboland? Because it is the same logic.

The people of Ilorin wanted to have Emir themselves and it was never forced on them, no one conquered anybody in yoruba land.

waynetee:
What you dont understand was that Ilorin is a small place in Oyo empire.
Oyo empire is not made of yoruba only so there must be some mishap from time to time.

Can you say because simon ekpa that somehow control igboland now, has conquered Nigeria? or even igboland? Because it is the same logic.

The people of Ilorin wanted to have Emir themselves and it was never forced on them, no one conquered anybody in yoruba land.

Oyo never ruled multi ethnic territory. Ilorin was empty bush, Oyo never conquered any tribal settlement there. Yorubas were the First settlers there but fulani came and conquered the yorubas and installed emir

Ogene001:
Olodo, tell us another Saraki in SW. Meanwhile many Sarakis full north

Actually Saraki is yoruba name, even if its not.. I have many families bearing Arabic names without any link to north or arab

waynetee:
Actually Saraki is yoruba name, even if its not.. I have many families bearing Arabic names without any link to north or arab

You see your life, if it's Arabic it would have been popular among SW yoruba Muslims.

Ogene001:
Oyo never ruled multi ethnic territory. Ilorin was empty bush, Oyo never conquered any tribal settlement there. Yorubas were the First settlers there but fulani came and conquered the yorubas and installed emir

So Benin empire and Dahomy Empire that was once under Oyo empire are yoruba people abi?

Ok if fulani took ilorin, how come they are less than 5% there now and all the government officials and their kings are yoruba.. Did the Fulanis fly away or die?

waynetee:
So Benin empire and Dahomy Empire that was once under Oyo empire are yoruba people abi?

Ok if fulani took ilorin, how come they are less than 5% there now and all the government officials and their kings are yoruba.. Did the Fuanis fly away or die?

Which Benin and Dahomey was under Oyo. Abeg go sleep

Ogene001:
Fulani emir doesn't coexist with indegenous traditional ruler. It's pure conquest. There are many igbo Bishops outside Igboland but they don't rule over the people like fulani emirs. Fulani emir is supreme overall ruler not head of Islam

oh well I give up.. Apparently you can't comprehend what is up there, kindly tell me at which point did I say Fulani emir rules or Co exist with any indigenous traditional ruler? None.. So that your point is irrelevant.like I said most places they ruled over was much more for religious purpose which is why they use Jihad has means of war.
No2. What has bishops in igbo land got to do with this your topic? Has any Igbo Bishop ever gone to war before? Have any Igbo as a matter of fact conquered any other tribe before in Igbo history and rule over them and is no.
All over human history people have conquer and conquered themselves.
I guess am just having a back and forth with someone who has no idea what heir she is typing.. I guess you don't know the difference between an emir, a sheik or Shehu, a mallam, an Imam, a sultan and a Caliph.. You don't know and you just open a thread to make yourself feel good or trying to start an argument between Yorubas, hausa and Fulani.. Get a life bro.. Not worth it shalom.

The British conquered most of the world guess what. Nigerians still love them. The fulanis used a strategy called mesujamba. Brainwashing and deceit. They attach themselves to your people then exploit that. Turning people against each other. They then take the spoils by marrying into the ruling family . The British stopped their conquest. No monarch today has any real power just there for show

ednut1:
The British conquered most of the world guess what. Nigerians still love them. The fulanis used a strategy called mesujamba. Brainwashing and deceit. They attach themselves to your people then exploit that. Turning people against each other. They then take the spoils by marrying into the ruling family . The British stopped their conquest. No monarch today has any real power just there for show

Nigerians benefit from the British at times. Nigerians gain nothing from Fulanis.
British technology, medicine, literature etc. Nigerians go to Britain to live, study and vacation. What have Fulanis contributed to Nigeria besides FGM, Boko Haram, illiteracy and Sharia ordained Child marriage? Northern Nigerian is too unsafe and backwards for Southerners and non-muslims too visit. I used to think that white people were holding Nigeria back, it's Northerners.

DaChosenOne:
Nigerians benefit from the British at times. Nigerians gain nothing from Fulanis.
British technology, medicine, literature etc. Nigerians go to Britain to live, study and vacation. What have Fulanis contributed to Nigeria besides FGM, Boko Haram, illiteracy and Sharia ordained Child marriage? Northern Nigerian is too unsafe and backwards for Southerners and non-muslims too visit. I used to think that white people were holding Nigeria back, it's Northerners.

the northerners are the ones in delta, bayelsa, river state, lagos, ekiti etc chopping govt funds and nddc abi. Abeg rest. They contribute to Nigeria economy via animal rearing. They have been here for over 400 years. Nothing you can do to them. Focus on your leaders in your state and region