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Re: Police Seal 17 Local Government Area Secretariats Of Plateau by Jlow2: 9:16pm On Jun 15, 2023
Apc re evil and you must show them evil as the re,the incumbent governor was suspended in 2015 when he was mangy Lga chairman at the time when apc came to power in plateau, he was ambushed at the popular Maraba Jamma, roundabout at the orders of lalong , his official car collected and was forced to take taxi to mangu, same has happened to apc now but the refused to hangover the Lga secretariats, it’s a trap to cause crisis by the apc Lga chairman esp Jos north and south to make the state ungovernable for mutfwang, the incumbent govt must be ruthless because this apc pple re heartless , he should never be soft with them.
Re: Police Seal 17 Local Government Area Secretariats Of Plateau by HopeGying: 9:17pm On Jun 15, 2023
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Re: Police Seal 17 Local Government Area Secretariats Of Plateau by Parachoko: 9:26pm On Jun 15, 2023
J3susFr3ak:
Dude. My entire point was simply the fact that the Plateau House of Assembly being a body of Law makers can make their own laws that fits the needs and sensibilities of the state and its citizens without the need to reference that abomination called the Nigerian constitution.
You're not making any sense

Nah common sense matter be the issue on ground

Do the State House Of Assembly have the power to sack or suspend LG Chairmen? The answer is NO.

The National Assembly do not have the Power to suspend or sack elected LG Chairmen.


Any other thing you dey talk nah rubbish and senseless talk
Re: Police Seal 17 Local Government Area Secretariats Of Plateau by Viscuz: 9:29pm On Jun 15, 2023
Parachoko:
You're not making any sense

Nah common sense matter be the issue on ground

Do the State House Of Assembly have the power to sack or suspend LG Chairmen? The answer is NO.

The National Assembly do not have the Power to suspend or sack elected LG Chairmen.


Any other thing you dey talk nah rubbish and senseless talk
Parachoko still jobless after shouting on ya mandate
Re: Police Seal 17 Local Government Area Secretariats Of Plateau by J3susFr3ak: 9:33pm On Jun 15, 2023
Parachoko:
You're not making any sense

Nah common sense matter be the issue on ground

Do the State House Of Assembly have the power to sack or suspend LG Chairmen? The answer is NO.

The National Assembly do not have the Power to suspend or sack elected LG Chairmen.


Any other thing you dey talk nah rubbish and senseless talk
Well congratulations. You are a witness to an active law not just in the making--but being executed. What a time to be alive huh?

I never heard you give the same heated argument when the Islamic renegade Yerima on his own--triggered the Sharia laws in the core Northern Muslim states and causing the others to follow. SO you mean to tell me if you are radical and violent enough then the Federal constitutions should just cower and accept whatever aggression and fury defends as "kosher" in a secular state?

Please do not take the Christian people of Plateau for fools. I think every state should make a stand: our land, our laws!!
Re: Police Seal 17 Local Government Area Secretariats Of Plateau by Melagros(m): 10:13pm On Jun 15, 2023
Parachoko:
The Governor have no power to suspend a LG Chairman
Please you don't know what is going on there, the same governor was suspended by lalong/the immediate past governor when he was a local government chairman
Re: Police Seal 17 Local Government Area Secretariats Of Plateau by DOM7: 10:19pm On Jun 15, 2023
Falana said the president does not have right to remove CBN governor yet people are celebrating Tinubu for that and at the same time faulting Governor Caleb of plateau State, hypocrisy at the highest order. The evil police that cannot do their constitutional duty when hundreds of people were killed on the plateau suddenly know the have a duty to protect people.
Re: Police Seal 17 Local Government Area Secretariats Of Plateau by Parachoko: 5:30am On Jun 16, 2023
Melagros:
Please you don't know what is going on there, the same governor was suspended by lalong/the immediate past governor when he was a local government chairman
The Court have ruled that it's illegal

The Governor or House Of Assembly do not have the power to sack or suspend a LG Chairman
Re: Police Seal 17 Local Government Area Secretariats Of Plateau by Parachoko: 5:31am On Jun 16, 2023
DOM7:
Falana said the president does not have right to remove CBN governor yet people are celebrating Tinubu for that and at the same time faulting Governor Caleb of plateau State, hypocrisy at the highest order. The evil police that cannot do their constitutional duty when hundreds of people were killed on the plateau suddenly know the have a duty to protect people.
LG Chairman are elected

Who elected the CBN Governor?

Nah common sense issue be this
Re: Police Seal 17 Local Government Area Secretariats Of Plateau by J3susFr3ak: 6:37am On Jun 16, 2023
Parachoko:
LG Chairman are elected

Who elected the CBN Governor?

Nah common sense issue be this
In a "Nigerian" political context, we know it is "selected" not elected...

The court is there to interpret laws--even though most times they themselves can be wrong and corrupted. The House is there to make new relevant laws. The executive is there to implement them.

State Laws which are more closer to the people takes high priority over any Federal law created by mischievous, greedy people completely out of touch with the day to day realities of any given state. (For example, even in the US, each State is free to create their own laws about Abortion for instance--or interpret them as they see fit. Or are we not a Federal Democracy again?)

PS. Even Tinubu himself once created extra LGAs in Lagos State and collided with OBJ back then. It took the courts a long time to catch up with the reality that even LGAs owe their creation and to a certain extent, function to the states they exist in--not a distant "Federal Gubermint" only out to unleash a biased vendetta.
Re: Police Seal 17 Local Government Area Secretariats Of Plateau by Mrfixiit: 6:58am On Jun 16, 2023
Fafesot:
No time for you retard..
Your mother gave birth to a de***ted ediot who has no direction.
Re: Police Seal 17 Local Government Area Secretariats Of Plateau by Parachoko: 7:02am On Jun 16, 2023
J3susFr3ak:
In a "Nigerian" political context, we know it is "selected" not elected...
You're just saying nonsense

LG Chairmen are elected by people within each Local Government Areas, they can only be recalled by people who voted them

The National Assembly or the State Governor do not have the power to suspend or sack them.
Re: Police Seal 17 Local Government Area Secretariats Of Plateau by J3susFr3ak: 7:20am On Jun 16, 2023
Parachoko:
You're just saying nonsense

LG Chairmen are elected by people within each Local Government Areas, they can only be recalled by people who voted them

The National Assembly or the State Governor do not have the power to suspend or sack them.
There is ample evidence of the gross electoral misconduct and violations that produced these so called LGA Chairmen by the manipulations of the ex-Governor. The booted APC Governor being so unpopular knew that the wishes and hearts of the people were already with the opposition. Hence, the "selective" manipulations.

Besides, you seem to go out of your way to infer that LGA Chairmen could have more powers than a sitting Governor since no one can check their excesses. The State House of Assembly members were also elected by the people and represent the desires and wishes of the same people by proxy to recall any sitting LGA Chairman.

Plateau State is also free to add clauses to the existing law of recall to include the powers of the people through their State House of Assembly member votes to recall any Chairman that has abused his or her office.
Re: Police Seal 17 Local Government Area Secretariats Of Plateau by unitysheart(m): 7:29am On Jun 16, 2023
Fiscus105:
Nigeria with no regards for rule of ......if a rev father can be going around with illegality, how much less tout.


What stop him to buy judgment from court as usual at least to make it looks legal.
Wake up. It’s plateau not benue
Re: Police Seal 17 Local Government Area Secretariats Of Plateau by Parachoko: 7:35am On Jun 16, 2023
J3susFr3ak:
There is ample evidence of the gross electoral misconduct and violations that produced these so called LGA Chairmen by the manipulations of the ex-Governor.
The Governor/State House Of Assemble should take their evidence to court

Only the court can decide if the election was manipulated or bot

He nor the state house of assembly do not have the power to sack or suspend LG Chairmen.

The LG Chairmen will complete their tenure
Re: Police Seal 17 Local Government Area Secretariats Of Plateau by J3susFr3ak: 7:45am On Jun 16, 2023
Parachoko:
The Governor/State House Of Assemble should take their evidence to court

Only the court can decide if the election was manipulated or bot

He nor the state house of assembly do not have the power to sack or suspend LG Chairmen.

The LG Chairmen will complete their tenure
Besides the option of the HOA recall, the Executive Governor has the ample powers to SUSPEND any local Government Chairmen without unnecessary recourse to the courts.

The LG Chairmen cannot prove they're innocent of the accusations leveled against them. They are guilty of massive corruption and their services are no loner wanted!
Re: Police Seal 17 Local Government Area Secretariats Of Plateau by Parachoko: 8:07am On Jun 16, 2023
J3susFr3ak:
Besides the option of the HOA recall, the Executive Governor has the ample powers to SUSPEND any local Government Chairmen without unnecessary recourse to the courts
https://thenationonlineng.net/supreme-court-governors-cant-sack-elected-local-governments/

After all the explanation, you keep on displaying your ignorance

LG Chairmen are elected just like Governors and President

They can not be sack neither can they be suspended by the Governor

A President can not sack or suspend a Governor neither can a Governor suspend or sack a LG Chairman.

https://thenationonlineng.net/supreme-court-governors-cant-sack-elected-local-governments/
Re: Police Seal 17 Local Government Area Secretariats Of Plateau by Immarocks(f): 8:18am On Jun 16, 2023
No wonder Jos town seems dry this week...


We are in the era of suspension
Re: Police Seal 17 Local Government Area Secretariats Of Plateau by J3susFr3ak: 8:19am On Jun 16, 2023
Parachoko:
https://thenationonlineng.net/supreme-court-governors-cant-sack-elected-local-governments/

After all the explanation, you keep on displaying your ignorance

LG Chairmen are elected just like Governors and President

They can not be sack neither can they be suspended by the Governor

A President can not sack or suspend a Governor neither can a Governor suspend or sack a LG Chairman.

https://thenationonlineng.net/supreme-court-governors-cant-sack-elected-local-governments/
When you are very guilty of corruption and cannot defend your self--then you are fair game for suspension NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE!!

Do not come here to tell me that the immunity Presidents and Governors enjoy can also be extended to common LGA Chairmen. Even State Governors have their excesses and powers checked by the House of Assemblies. By extension....LGA Chairmen also needs their powers checked.

The Local Government House of Assemblies are next to useless in a dysfunctional democracy like Nigeria's. The only rational silver lining here is the existence of a virile and functioning State House of Assembly to duly check the excesses of even the LGA Chairmen.
Re: Police Seal 17 Local Government Area Secretariats Of Plateau by StJasper(m): 8:47am On Jun 16, 2023
PastorFire4Fire:
There is no autonomy for LG Chairmen. And yes, the governor has powers to dissolve them same way the President can sack a governor through State Of Emergency.
Gov. Caleb Mufwang was the chairman of Mangu Local Government. His tenure was also dissolved by the immediate past governor (Simon Lalong) and replaced with caretaker committee members.
Anyway, i understand the governor. He is using any opportunity to dissolve them as they are all APC members brought in by the immediate former governor and he is not comfortable with it. Those chairmen even fought against him on election day frustrating voters that wanted to vote for him.
Reasoning this way only points to the secret behind our backwardness as a nation. We are extremely stupid in this country. We love celebrating madness.

Be it APC or PDP or LP, no governor has any right or power to sack a duly elected local government chairman.

Do you know what will happen if presidents start declaring state of emergency in any opposition states?

We need to stop celebrating madness.
Re: Police Seal 17 Local Government Area Secretariats Of Plateau by J3susFr3ak: 9:05am On Jun 16, 2023
StJasper:
Reasoning this way only points to the secret behind our backwardness as a nation. We are extremely stupid in this country. We love celebrating madness.

Be it APC or PDP or LP, no governor has any right or power to sack a duly elected local government chairman.

Do you know what will happen if presidents start declaring state of emergency in any opposition states?

We need to stop celebrating madness.
The third tier of Government under the supervisory jurisdiction of the "state".

Here is a hypothetical scenario. Assuming a place like Sabon Gari in Kano boycotts every state sensibilities and use the Federal Government to create a LGA for themselves in Kano because of the demographic make-up. Do you think the Kano State Government will take that nonsense lying down? No! Why? Because local governments are even more artificial imposed creations compared to the structures of a given state.

The same things applies to any other ethnic group in Lagos or Anambra that attempts to use any type of of demographic composition to boycott the powers of the state by using Federal influence to force their way into a state's local politics. That also has very bad repercussions. Every state should have the power to create or dissolve entire local governments within their domains as they so wish! The LGA should emerge from the natural habitats and wishes of its original natives.

My greater point being--LGAs are more dependent on the well-wishes of the entire state to function and survive. Any given state can declare independence and opt to be its own Sovereign nation tomorrow. Local governments cannot because they are more ephemeral by their structure. Like I said earlier, the Nigerian constitution has no business creating local governments for states. States should look at the financial viability of their various localities and create as many or as few local governments as they so wish.

The present LGs as created mostly in the Military era was done only as a means to find creative ways for the mostly Northern Muslims to loot as much oil revenues as possible from the South.

If you want the LGAs to really be independent--let them also begin financing their existence from taxes and local industry without the pathetic hand-outs from where ever.

In a broken system--sanity needs to prevail. The corrupt Chairmen must go!
Re: Police Seal 17 Local Government Area Secretariats Of Plateau by Parachoko: 9:51am On Jun 16, 2023
J3susFr3ak:
When you are very guilty of corruption and cannot defend your self--then you are fair game for suspension NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE!!
Well, you have the right to keep on spewing trash online
Re: Police Seal 17 Local Government Area Secretariats Of Plateau by DaveHarry(m): 9:59am On Jun 16, 2023
Uvwie local government secretariat needs sealing as these. Good move by the NPF.
Re: Police Seal 17 Local Government Area Secretariats Of Plateau by J3susFr3ak: 10:50am On Jun 16, 2023
Parachoko:
Well, you have the right to keep on spewing trash online
If your so-called constitutions gave the State House of Assemblies powers to oversee the financial appropriation of funds to a local Government, according to: https://www.constituteproject.org/constitution/Nigeria_2011?lang=en

4. Subject to the provisions of this Constitution-

the National Assembly shall make provisions for statutory allocation of public revenue to local government councils in the Federation; and
the House of Assembly of a State shall make provisions for statutory allocation of public revenue to local government councils within the State.

-- Is it suddenly "Rocket Science" for the same House of Assembly to call upon the Chairmen to give a proper account of their stewardship? A House of Assembly does not only exist to distribute funds. They also function to make sure those funds are properly used and also to make necessary disciplinary actions for any abuses of those funds by those same Chairmen.

Comprende?
Re: Police Seal 17 Local Government Area Secretariats Of Plateau by Abee79(m): 11:12am On Jun 16, 2023
Good move by IGP.
Also use the same energy to tackle kidnappers, bandits and terrorists killing innocent people in Plateau State on a daily basis!
Re: Police Seal 17 Local Government Area Secretariats Of Plateau by Parachoko: 11:13am On Jun 16, 2023
J3susFr3ak:
If your so-called constitutions gave the State House of Assemblies powers to oversee the financial appropriation of funds to a local Government, according to: https://www.constituteproject.org/constitution/Nigeria_2011?lang=en

4. Subject to the provisions of this Constitution-

the National Assembly shall make provisions for statutory allocation of public revenue to local government councils in the Federation; and
the House of Assembly of a State shall make provisions for statutory allocation of public revenue to local government councils within the State.

-- Is it suddenly "Rocket Science" for the same House of Assembly to call upon the Chairmen to give a proper account of their stewardship? A House of Assembly does not only exist to distribute funds. They also function to make sure those funds are properly used and also to make necessary disciplinary actions for any abuses of those funds by those same Chairmen.

Comprende?
There's no other way I can explain this issue to you my bro

You're an ignorant man who do not know and is not ready to learn

Governors and the State House Of Assembly do not have the power to sack or suspend LG Chairman just the way the President or National Assembly can't suspend or sack a Governor.

Nah common sense matter be this my brother

The Governor or a State House Of Assembly do not have any power to sack or suspend a person who was duly elected to rule a LG Area

Absolute Majority of the Local Government depend largely on Federal Allocation like Absolute Majority of the State Government.

Hope you know Abia State depend largely on Money from the FG too like most of the States in Nigeria, make you come wake up tomorrow and hear say Tinubu don sack Gov Otti because he misappropriate fund the FG gave to Abia State, do that make sense to you?

There's no where in the Nigerian Constitution the State Governor or House Of Assembly is given the power to do such a thing.

And the Supreme Court gave a judgement on this issue in 2021, the Supreme Court said a LG Chairman can't be sacked.

What the Plateau State House Of Assembly did is not recognize by the Nigerian Law and is illegal, those LG Chairmen will complete their tenure.

Re: Police Seal 17 Local Government Area Secretariats Of Plateau by J3susFr3ak: 11:20am On Jun 16, 2023
Parachoko:
There's no other way I can explain this issue to you my bro

You're an ignorant man who do not know and is not ready to learn

Governors and the State House Of Assembly do not have the power to sack or suspend LG Chairman just the way the President or National Assembly can't suspend or sack a Governor.

Nah common sense matter be this my brother

The Governor or a State House Of Assembly do not have any power to sack or suspend a person who was duly elected to rule a LG Area

Absolute Majority of the Local Government depend largely on Federal Allocation like Absolute Majority of the State Government.

Hope you know Abia State depend largely on Money from the FG too like most of the States in Nigeria, make you come wake up tomorrow and hear say Tinubu don sack Gov Otti because he misappropriate fund the FG gave to Abia State, do that make sense to you?

There's no where in the Nigerian Constitution the State Governor or House Of Assembly is given the power to do such a thing.

And the Supreme Court gave a judgement on this issue in 2021, the Supreme Court said a LG Chairman can't be sacked.

What the Plateau State House Of Assembly did is not recognize by the Nigerian Law and is illegal, those LG Chairmen will complete their tenure.
Supreme Court judgments are not set in stone and can always be appealed. Precedence can always be set by the newer contexts laws and their execution find themselves.

Local Government Chairmen DO NOT have immunity and are liable to being suspended because of gross misconduct and corruption. You are trying to equate the role of a Governor and a Local Government Chairman....to me, you are comparing apples to oranges.

Elected Senators and House of Reps members can be recalled.
Elected Governors can be impeached by the House.
Elected LGA Chairmen can also be suspended for gross corruption!! QED!
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