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MUMU YOUAND YOUR GENERATION WILL DIE FILLED WITH HATRED FOR TINUBU

ken6488:
cry

It didn't go down the way they wanted. So they are twisting everything.

chronique:
I'm not sure you know what you are saying. Ahkmat forces from the Chechnya Republic under kadyrov had been deployed to Rostovondon to counter the wagnerites. What would have happened would have been a massive bloodbath that would have destroyed Rostovondon but completely eliminated the wagnerites. Don't also forget that several commanders with their armies turned back from following prigozhin and the wagnerites and clearly stated that they would not be supporting him against the state. At the end, prigozhin lost Wagner as he has to go on exile. His group would eventually be disbanded.

Are you talking of the same Chenchnyan forces who have long been fighting on the side of Russia in Ukraine?

What do you mean by “Prigozhin lost Wagner”?
His group too would be disbanded? Can you talk about these things for clarity?

Cantonese:
You simply do not know what it takes for coups to be successful.

In those days in Nigeria, all that the likes of Domkat Bali, IBB, Abacha, Murtala Mohammed, PMB, Mamman Vatsa, Gideon Orkah, needed were to get all the GOCs, army signal and the rest would become history. Once captured the entire armed forces - army, airforce, navy and police would fall into line. They entire nation would completely fall under their control. Did you ever hear that those coups involved the entire armed forces? It’s the same world wide, wide a few eager men carrying it out.

The events of yesterday showed clearly what the senseless Putin war in Ukraine had proven: the overrating of Russian military strength and the vulnerability of Putin himself.

With low morale among the armed forces, an insurrection will be the order of the day in the armed forces. Did you not read that Rostov was easily overrun as Putin’s army simply gave way and were could not put up a fight? They rather hailed Wagner’s men as they entered from Ukraine. Did you not see obstacles set up on the M4 (the 1500 km road to Moscow)? Did you not see how speedily, areas were parts of the highway were damaged to prevent the advancement?

Russians have grown tired of killing Ukrainians who are family. They want the war to end. Russia lost many members of the elite squad at the beginning of the war. They are badly depleted. The so called 800,000 left consist of men with low morale. Russians suffer economically, just as Putin has thrown the whole world into food crisis. Russian soldiers would simply not put up a fight as they did in Rostov. Wagner knows all these. He would not have made his attempt, if he was not certain of it. The rest has become history with the humiliation of Putin in his own country by his own people.

You should all follow the issues as they are and once again as I have stated earlier, not like a football match.

I leave you to believe what you want. I don't have the strength for argument. Maybe you were following the events from CNN. What do you think would have happened after the arrival of the chenchen forces at Rostovondon that led to a mini shoot out and the wagnerites placing mines on the floor and asking civilians to move away? A bloodbath that would have shaken Russia was already about to begin. Prigozhin had no chance at all. Besides, he only had his men in the center of Rostovondon and some parts of votreck(didn't spell it right). How would he have taken over Moscow when other regions like Moscow, Petersburg, kransnodar, Crimea, Sevastopol, belogrod, kursk, Chechnya and the likes already publicly denounced him and offered their support to the Supreme commander?

No difference between Russia and Sudan in terms of their security architecture: both countries' militias are more powerful than the national army.
Do you still think Russia is a superpower?

ivolt:
Prigozin is a fool.
If you must aim for the emperor, make sure you don't miss but he missed.
Putin will now have enough time to destroy him completely.
Prigozin is a dead man walking and FSB will likely place secret bounty on his head.
He can't go back to Russia and he can't go back to fighting either because the Russian
Army will refuse to give him sufficient arms.
He got the attention he wanted at the cost of his life.

Absolutely! he's a gunner!he should have just even remained where he was and taken that part of the country to himself. make e no even go take over belarus from that dummy!

chronique:
Ignorance is a thing. Wagner are currently not fighting on any of the fronts and Russia is doing very well. The wagnerites were pulled back from the front after the victory of bakhmut. There's no humiliation for Putin. The worst that would have happened is a civil war and it would have been equally surpressed. Only that it would have affected the front and cost them some losses.

How are the Russians doing well on the front? A well trained state army relied on non state actors to capture territories and to you they are doing well? Why have they not advanced further. Or do you not know that Ukraine has pushed them back from some of the territories?

Putin’s military command promised to overrun Ukraine in a matter of days. Now it’s one year and four months. What is happening?

A civil war would be suppressed in Russia? You think say na Nigeria wey una no know una left and right? Where politicians dey play all of una like football, come make all tribes hate themselves? No be so young friend. A rising of the people of Russia will immediately end the rule of Putin, who is their problem.

Judolisco:
how dem humble am...

Russians sabi respect their country pass anything...alleged Coup and no single person was killed...

Some people go cry go sleep dis night... Same wagner group that were terrorist 2 days ago suddenly became heroes overnight... Omo I fear western media oh

Which Western media called him a hero?

Cantonese:
Are you talking of the same Chenchnyan forces who have long been fighting on the side of Russia in Ukraine?

What do you mean by “Prigozhin lost Wagner”?
His group too would be disbanded? Can you talk about these things for clarity?

Yes. Chenchen Republic leader(kadyrov) had sent a convoy of troops to Rostovondon to counter the wagnerites and a bloodbath was about to occur. I was following the whole conflict from when it broke out in the morning with live feeds of videos of everything happening inside of Russia being posted on the channels I follow. Some of the Wagner commanders even abandoned prigozhin and clearly stated they would not go against the president. Some were told they were going for a visit to the southern military command and weren't even aware of prigozhin's intentions only to find out at the dying minute and withdrew their troops. He lost Wagner because he is going on exile forever in Belarus and cannot actively control the Wagner group while in exile as he would be under 24 hrs security watch. The wagnerites who were not part of yesterday's madness would be allowed to sign contracts with the ministry of defense. The ones who were a part of it would be pardoned and sent to new areas of responsibility. What would happen after that is still unclear but it's obvious that the Wagner group would be disbanded after this rebellion. They have committed treason against the state and cannot be allowed to function even if pardoned. Russia is not a banana republic that anything goes.

Asswipemod:
His best option is to seek asylum in the US. But the sleeper cells in the US might still get him.

Prigozilin is on the FBI wanted list. If he enters any Western country, he will suffer something worse. It's better he settles with Putin.

Asswipemod:
Wetin concern Emile O'Corn with Putin you this obedient dingbat?

See coward Throwing insults & tantrums against Nairalanders who do not support his emilokan thief.
You go soon cry go meet Mods that you are being bullied. Coward wey nö know his disillusional position in the scheme of things

DatNiggaDaz:
See coward Throwing insults & tantrums against Nairalanders who do not support his emilokan thief.
You go soon cry go meet Mods that you are being bullied. Coward wey nö know his disillusional position in the scheme of things

Who is more disillusioned between you wey de support looser and me wey de realistic? By the way, don't you have a dictionary? The only big English you sabi is so so "disillusional" every time. Or better still go and consult Patrick Obiagbon.😆😆😆😆😆😆

chronique:
I leave you to believe what you want. I don't have the strength for argument. Maybe you were following the events from CNN. What do you think would have happened after the arrival of the chenchen forces at Rostovondon that led to a mini shoot out and the wagnerites placing mines on the floor and asking civilians to move away? A bloodbath that would have shaken Russia was already about to begin. Prigozhin had no chance at all. Besides, he only had his men in the center of Rostovondon and some parts of votreck(didn't spell it right). How would he have taken over Moscow when other regions like Moscow, Petersburg, kransnodar, Crimea, Sevastopol, belogrod, kursk, Chechnya and the likes already publicly denounced him and offered their support to the Supreme commander?

Following events on CNN? No, not just that, but other news media worldwide for minute by minute update. History is taking place and we all need to read, listen, watch and comment appropriately.

Prigozhin had no chance at all according to you? How?

Why did Putin get Lukashenko to sort out the matter?

Note that denouncing Prigozhin would have been irrelevant if all the necessary structures for a take over were in place.

But the Wagner group were already on their way to Moscow. If there was no chance, why did they make the attempt?

Can you not see clearly that Putin only has his nuclear weapons to rely on?

Why would he get drones from Iran to fight Ukraine, if he possessed such military might as touted earlier?

Why has he demanded infantry from North Korea if his military was capable?

At the collapse of the USSR in 1991, Ukraine was the world’s third biggest nuclear power. They gave up the weapons in the arms deal with a guarantee of safety from the Russians and Americans. The question is this: would Putin have made his move against Ukraine the nuclear weapons remained in place?

Stoplying:
Show me a neutral media other than small independent and little known media like the grayzone.
They are all propaganda (CNN, MSNBC, fox ...).
The fact they say something doesn't imply it is false.
By the way I said "verifiable", you can verify if the sanctions against Wagner were paused.

Those ones you mention are they state sponsored,
Yes the CNN is mostly in sync with the democrat same with fox with the republicans, but are they state sponsored?? Answer is no they have a level of autonomy unlike RT, RT Is the chief propaganda machine of the kerlimin, I don't take news from RT serious

Wildkat02:
But many Putin bots here will say otherwise. And I begin to wonder how they reason

Well, one should call a spade, a spade.

Cantonese:
How are the Russians doing well on the front? A well trained state army relied on non state actors to capture territories and to you they are doing well? Why have they not advanced further. Or do you not know that Ukraine has pushed them back from some of the territories?

Putin’s military command promised to overrun Ukraine in a matter of days. Now it’s one year and four months. What is happening?

A civil war would be suppressed in Russia? You think say na Nigeria wey una no know una left and right? Where politicians dey play all of una like football, come make all tribes hate themselves? No be so young friend. A rising of the people of Russia will immediately end the rule of Putin, who is their problem.

I thought as much that you are not very clear on the operation. Do you know the reason why Putin chose to use pmc in Ukraine? Firstly, Russian laws have a lot of bureaucratic approach to things and that's why the war in Ukraine is not called a war but a special military operation which requires minimal use of state forces. This is the reason why a lot of Russian soldiers are not partaking in the conflict despite having an active force of over 800k soldiers and more than 2m reserves. To use more of the forces, the state would have to transition into a CTO(counter terrorism operation) which would have its own limited use of force too but more powers than when under the SMO. If Russia decides to transition into a full scale war, then they would need to use every weapon and forces available. Transitioning into a full scale war would mean that the economy of the country would also transition into wartime economy. Putin didn't want that to happen as it would reduce the growth of the economy as reserves who are serving in various sectors of the economy, would have to be drafted to the war front. That's why he chose to use the option of private military contractors which doesn't affect the smooth running of the economy. Prior to now, Wagner had roughly about 7k fighters at the beginning. Russia encouraged Wagner by giving them weapons and everything they needed to recruit fighters. Prigozhin's actions in constantly challenging the defense headquarters led to them mandating all volunteers to sign a contract with the ministry of defense so they can be easily regulated but he clearly refused to sign. Not signing a contract automatically means you cannot be deployed to anywhere on the front and knowing he was going to remain redundant without that, is what led to this his rebellion.

Princedapace:
bro, calm down. Russian military didnt want engage with these guys. No be everything be fight. There are issues u resolve calmly to avoid escalation.
Russia just didnt want to begin to use weapons they have right inside russia to fight the private military company.
It wouldnt make sense! It was best resolved this way.
I mean, this is a private military company and has no much of weapons, infact, Russia funds it. So, imagine hearing on news that Russian forces are exchanging fire with them, releasing air force on them right inside Russia, that would make no sense and lead to Russian city destructions.

It was best handled in a more matured way to avoid escalation. If this is declared a war, Russia would burn with destruction but the private military group would no way survive. It is like Biafra trying to defeat Nigeria, wont work but Nigeria would experience destructions. This is what Russia avoided.

I reason this too...
They don't want the destruction of their own cities…

Asswipemod:
Who is more disillusioned between you wey de support looser and me wey de realistic? By the way, don't you have a dictionary? The only big English you sabi is so so "disillusional" every time. Or better still go and consult Patrick Obiagbon.😆😆😆😆😆😆

Emilokan disillusionist. Your cry never start ,
You go cry meet MODS tire. Coward.You think say Me dey do question & answer Session with a born coward ?

Delusional yeye creature forming British teacher

So in your delusional mind, you no know say the real description of a creature like you no pass 4 words;-
1. COWARD
2. DISILLUSIONIST
3. EMILOKAN
4. MUSCHI
5. CLOWN

Dictionary searcher You be clown for Real

Judolisco:
how dem humble am...

Russians sabi respect their country pass anything...alleged Coup and no single person was killed...

Some people go cry go sleep dis night... Same wagner group that were terrorist 2 days ago suddenly became heroes overnight... Omo I fear western media oh

Russians Sabi respect their country pass anything but na some of them dey inside Russia dey act as informants and spies for CIA.

Alleged coup and no single person was killed? Una sef. A coup mustn't involve killing. Wagner chief said the Russia soldiers didn't resist. They surrendered. Abi you wan kill people wey don already surrender to you? Nor be wickedness be that.

Na true say Putin don run comot from Moscow? .

Putin na strong man, small rag-tag mercenaries wey threaten am, he run call Belarus president. Na that one come dey beg Wagner Chief. Almighty Putin in the mud!

Stoplying:
Show me a neutral media other than small independent and little known media like the grayzone.
They are all propaganda (CNN, MSNBC, fox ...).
The fact they say something doesn't imply it is false.
By the way I said "verifiable", you can verify if the sanctions against Wagner were paused.

Those ones you mention are they state sponsored,
Yes the CNN is mostly in sync with the democrat same with fox with the republicans, but are they state sponsored?? Answer is no they have a level of autonomy unlike RT, RT Is the chief propaganda machine of the kerlimin, I don't take news from RT serious
The scantions on Wagner were pause is a propaganda info, the Wagner issue lasted just 24hrs, and I check there is no info (official) from relevant department that said they pause scantions on the Russian Wagner group.

DatNiggaDaz:
Emilokan disillusionist. Your cry never start ,
You go cry meet MODS tire. Coward.You think say Me dey do question & answer Session with a born coward ?

Delusional yeye creature forming British teacher

So in your delusional mind, you no know say the real description of a creature like you no pass 4 words;-
1. COWARD
2. DISILLUSIONIST
3. EMILOKAN
4. MUSCHI
5. CLOWN

Dictionary searcher You be clown for Real

Read what you posted and see whether you made any sense.😆😆😆😆😆

Asswipemod:
Read what you posted and see whether you made any sense.😆😆😆😆😆

See clown wey dey ask a real Nigga about sense
Sense Fall on your delusional skull

It was planned.

DatNiggaDaz:
Emilokan disillusionist. Your cry never start ,
You go cry meet MODS tire. Coward.You think say Me dey do question & answer Session with a born coward ?

Delusional yeye creature forming British teacher

So in your delusional mind, you no know say the real description of a creature like you no pass 4 words;-
1. COWARD
2. DISILLUSIONIST
3. EMILOKAN
4. MUSCHI
5. CLOWN

Dictionary searcher You be clown for Real

At least you learnt one English word from me and you have started using it.😆😆😆😆

Una de run? Àbí which one be question and answer session with me wey una de avoid.😝😝😝😝

Una still go enter that Kirikiri since una no wan learn.

“If you come for the king, you best not miss”

This guy better seal every window in his house, or he’s bound to “fall” out of one. I can’t imagine Putin will forget about this long term. Very curious what was offered to make them stand down this close to Moscow

DatNiggaDaz:
See clown wey dey ask a real Nigga about sense
Sense Fall on your delusional skull

I don teach am English oooooooo. 😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝

Sltp:
But how exactly? Did you expect him to destroy his country fighting the mad man? He's not stupid. He just handled it with intelligence

why did he have to wait for Wagner boss to revolt before he "handled it with intelligence"? was threatening the guy with treason part of the "handled it with intelligence"? no be when baba see say no chance na him make am humble himself?

Asswipemod:
I don teach am English oooooooo. 😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝

You be clown. Change to your @Reflect7 handle. Coward

Were the criminal charges really dropped

Asswipemod:
At least you learnt one English word from me and you have started using it.😆😆😆😆

Una de run? Àbí which one be question and answer session with me wey una de avoid.😝😝😝😝

Una still go enter that Kirikiri since una no wan learn.

See dead body wey don kpai several times for Real life dey stalk a real Nigga . Wonders shall never end

When u go bring the tears about intimidation & bullying to the Mods to ban me

Emilokan disillusionist

chronique:
Yes. Chenchen Republic leader(kadyrov) had sent a convoy of troops to Rostovondon to counter the wagnerites and a bloodbath was about to occur. I was following the whole conflict from when it broke out in the morning with live feeds of videos of everything happening inside of Russia being posted on the channels I follow. Some of the Wagner commanders even abandoned prigozhin and clearly stated they would not go against the president. Some were told they were going for a visit to the southern military command and weren't even aware of prigozhin's intentions only to find out at the dying minute and withdrew their troops. He lost Wagner because he is going on exile forever in Belarus and cannot actively control the Wagner group while in exile as he would be under 24 hrs security watch. The wagnerites who were not part of yesterday's madness would be allowed to sign contracts with the ministry of defense. The ones who were a part of it would be pardoned and sent to new areas of responsibility. What would happen after that is still unclear but it's obvious that the Wagner group would be disbanded after this rebellion. They have committed treason against the state and cannot be allowed to function even if pardoned. Russia is not a banana republic that anything goes.

So no bloodbath on Russian soil. Just ensure that there’s bloodbath in Ukraine, killing and displacing citizens in the name of a stupid invasion?

Following the event should include plenty of deep thinking.

Please take your time to read about the name Wagner group for better understanding.

Propaganda is part of war or fighting. Once again note that if the necessary structures of a coup are in place, only a handful of men are needed to execute it. I gave you the example of your own country. In Ghana all Jerry Rawlings needed was a few men to take over. He shot all the corrupt leaders and the rest became history. All Prigozhin needed were the men to move with him and his contacts within the military, who equally would have assumed their positions. Do you think that he would go against the army chief without ensuring that he had people within the rank and file of the Russian army?

Once again I ask, why did Putin’s men between Ukraine and Rostov surrender with a fight?

From the battle of Bakhmut, could you not see that Prigozhin’s men were better trained than Putin’s forces? The arrival of Chenchen forces in Rostov would not have made much difference, as Prigozhin’s men had strategically positioned. Secondly once again is the fact that Russian troops had become disillusioned.

How has Prigozhin lost the group that he founded and still it’s commander in chief? Do you know who mercenaries are? By the way do you not even know that they have engagements on African soil presently? Do you not know that they have been engaged in your country before?

Private armies are found in countries. For most they are illegitimate. However nations use them for dirty deals. How will Putin stop the monster that he supported?

Do you think that any member of the Wagner group would sign the military contract hook, line and sinker? Common sense shows that it may be a trap.