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| Re: Did Jesus Tell Lies? by AntiChristian(op): 8:46am On Jun 27, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:Which laws? Were the laws compiled together? Laws of Paul, Mark or Luke or whom? Laws that were selected by the Church fathers! Abeg! The books of the bible were compiled independently of the other! Some copied a little of other while another placed emphasis on whatever theme from another! 2. The righteous are not promised immunity from Satan by Jesus Christ. Rather, Jesus Christ promises His followers suffering & tribulation but along with that, He also gives them His peace to weather the many storms to come. Job endured suffering, but He got exactly what he asked for which is an audience with God Himself.Okay, you should pray since i believe you are righteous! I just need a million Kuwaiti Dollar in 6 days! Let's see whether Matthew 7:7 and other verses are true! 3. Exactly how long do you think it took before God answered Job's prayer?Very long even if it's just a day! It takes a few seconds to pray! How long does it take to answer when he is righteous? 4. According to Jesus Christ, it is all those who seek first the Kingdom of God(Holiness) followed by God's righteousness, that will have all these things He taught of the Kingdom of God — the blessings and rewards of the Kingdom of God including answers to prayers — added onto them. I am not certain where you come off by claiming that all of them will not receive what is promised to them.Have all these things being added on you? Mention what you have received? Where did Jesus mention righteousness as you say along with any of the verses? 5. I am afraid I do not follow along at all. What has God been the creator of calamity and prosperity to do with any of this? How does this diminish God's ability to grant the requests of the righteous as He said He would?God grants the wish of everyone whether righteous or not! Dangote and BUA are not righteous according to your Biblical standards but their prayers to be one of the richest and successful businessmen in Nigeria is always coming true! It doesn't matter whether you are righteous or not, God blesses or impoverish whoever He wills! |
| Re: Did Jesus Tell Lies? by TenQ: 8:46am On Jun 27, 2023 |
AntiChristian:Tell me, do you truly believe that the Jesus of the Christians is a Liar? Please respond! Further more, It is you doing diversion tactics! And the Chief liar is the satanically inspired Mohammed. Just tell me that Mohammed was not under the spell of Black magic (satanic possession) |
| Re: Did Jesus Tell Lies? by SIRTee15: 8:54am On Jun 27, 2023 |
AntiChristian:antiChristian there's a powerful word called Faith in the new testament, it's what u missing in your quest for wanton gluttony. Apply it and u will get whatever u want. Pls note that faith starts from believing Jesus is the truth, the way and the life. Otherwise, Paul has a piece of advice for u... For even when we were with you, we commanded you this: If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat. 2 Thes 3.10 |
| Re: Did Jesus Tell Lies? by AntiChristian(op): 9:06am On Jun 27, 2023 |
TenQ:Yes, I do to the extent the Bible writers made him! Further more, It is you doing diversion tactics!Tell us simply how the OP is not a lie by just proving it! Pray and let's see the answer! |
| Re: Did Jesus Tell Lies? by AntiChristian(op): 9:09am On Jun 27, 2023 |
SIRTee15:I agree that faith exist! Gather your own faith and pray the prayer in the original post and let's see the answer to the prayer! Abi you lack faith? Prove it! Otherwise, Paul has a piece of advice for u...The Biblical Paul is an imposter who never met Christ in real life! So i'll pass! |
| Re: Did Jesus Tell Lies? by TenQ: 10:09am On Jun 27, 2023 |
AntiChristian:Then case is closed! You are No more a Muslim! |
| Re: Did Jesus Tell Lies? by AntiChristian(op): 10:37am On Jun 27, 2023 |
TenQ:Do you determine who is Muslim and who is not? I don't believe in your Bible in the first place! Close the case you opened! |
| Re: Did Jesus Tell Lies? by TenQ: 11:12am On Jun 27, 2023 |
AntiChristian:If you can shamelessly oppose your prophet and your religion because you want to win an argument and you are not a professing Atheist, there exist no common ground of authority (scriptures and other religious literatures) to use I our conversation! QED! |
| Re: Did Jesus Tell Lies? by AntiChristian(op): 11:48am On Jun 27, 2023 |
TenQ:Guy, Meshionu! My post never for once mentioned the Prophet so once again, keep mute! You can be silent as you have nothing to say here! No excuse as Holy spirit no get subscription today! Na to dey blackmail me remain! Abegi! |
| Re: Did Jesus Tell Lies? by SIRTee15: 12:18pm On Jun 27, 2023 |
AntiChristian:With your recalcitrant unbelief ![]() Even Jesus couldn't perform much miracles when he was among unbelievers like yourself. Faith is not magic, your belief is as important as as the prayer itself. |
| Re: Did Jesus Tell Lies? by SIRTee15: 12:19pm On Jun 27, 2023 |
AntiChristian:Is Jesus no longer your prophet. |
| Re: Did Jesus Tell Lies? by TenQ: 12:31pm On Jun 27, 2023 |
AntiChristian:I repeat : If you can shamelessly oppose your prophet and your religion because you want to win an argument and you are not a professing Atheist, there exist no common ground of authority (scriptures and other religious literatures) to use I our conversation! |
| Re: Did Jesus Tell Lies? by AntiChristian(op): 12:44pm On Jun 27, 2023 |
TenQ:K, Blackmailer! |
| Re: Did Jesus Tell Lies? by AntiChristian(op): 12:47pm On Jun 27, 2023 |
SIRTee15:Not the Biblical Jesus that idolaters maggi worshipped as Ahura Mazda! Abi you too won blackmail me? |
| Re: Did Jesus Tell Lies? by AntiChristian(op): 12:49pm On Jun 27, 2023 |
SIRTee15:Did Lazarus had faith in Jesus before he was raised up as a miracle in the Bible? Please stop derailing the thread if you have nothing sensible to comment! |
| Re: Did Jesus Tell Lies? by SIRTee15: 12:52pm On Jun 27, 2023 |
AntiChristian:Then u have no business discussing the bible with me then. I will categorise u with pagans who do not believe the bible. The reason I engage with Muslims is because they claim they believe in Jesus of the bible but the book itself has been corrupted. I ask them to show me what's corrupt. |
| Re: Did Jesus Tell Lies? by SIRTee15: 1:04pm On Jun 27, 2023 |
AntiChristian:Says who ? U better dust your bible and read b4 u start embarrassing yourself here. Now a man named Lazarus was sick. He was from Bethany, the village of Mary and her sister Martha. 2 (This Mary, whose brother Lazarus now lay sick, was the same one who poured perfume on the Lord and wiped his feet with her hair.) 3 So the sisters sent word to Jesus, “Lord, the one you love is sick.” 4 When he heard this, Jesus said, “This sickness will not end in death. No, it is for God’s glory so that God’s Son may be glorified through it.” 5 Now Jesus loved Martha and her sister and Lazarus. The question u should be asking is why did Jesus wait for Lazarus to die b4 attending to him? Even at death, his sister sustained the faith. But u that don't believe in Jesus, nobody around u knows him, yet wants to collect 1 million dollars just like that. Instead of u to ask nairaland to show u the way to babalawo's house... u here constituting nuisance. Your knowledge of the bible is wack. I will respond to your other post when I'm done with work exposing u as a fake n shallow apologetics. |
| Re: Did Jesus Tell Lies? by AntiChristian(op): 1:14pm On Jun 27, 2023 |
SIRTee15:So in the post above can you make bold where Lazarus had faith in Jesus raising him up? A mother came to meet Jesus to heal his daughter, does that mean the daughter also had faith in Jesus? |
| Re: Did Jesus Tell Lies? by AntiChristian(op): 1:19pm On Jun 27, 2023 |
Your classification brings me no bread! Even the Bible you profess you don't even know! How will any Muslim believe Jesus of the Bible that is God that became man, God that died, God that is three! It's absurd! SIRTee15:Na you sabi! |
| Re: Did Jesus Tell Lies? by TenQ: 1:39pm On Jun 27, 2023 |
AntiChristian:LOL! What did you do wrong? Just imagine I claim not to hold any religion nor believe in any Scripture but I keep on writing about Islam. How would you respond? I just showed you that in your quest to win an argument, you were willing to claim superiority in knowledge to your Prophet Mohammed. What does that make you? A good Muslim!? It's the truth bro: you are not being blackmailed. It's the inherent weakness and achiles heel of Islam. You claim the God, Prophet and Traditions of Jews and Christians: Yet at the same time, you want to Re-Write History!? The shared narratives will haunt you! |
| Re: Did Jesus Tell Lies? by SIRTee15: 2:01pm On Jun 27, 2023*. Modified: 2:37pm On Jun 27, 2023 |
AntiChristian:The example of Lazarus u dragging here no be am at all. Have u read that chapter? John 11, u read and digested it, yet asking this Kain question. Lazarus had a good relationship with Jesus. He was sick but believed Jesus would heal him thus he sent his sisters to Jesus. However, Jesus deliberately waited until Lazarus died before going to Bethany. After he had said this, he went on to tell them, “Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep; but I am going there to wake him up.” 12 His disciples replied, “Lord, if he sleeps, he will get better.” 13 Jesus had been speaking of his death, but his disciples thought he meant natural sleep. 14 So then he told them plainly, “Lazarus is dead, 15 and for your sake I am glad I was not there, so that you may believe. But let us go to him.” Lazarus wanted Jesus to raise him from his sick bed. Rather Jesus chose to raise him from his death bed that God's name may be glorified. But even at death, Lazarus sisters sustained the faith...they interceded on his behalf. 21 “Lord,” Martha said to Jesus, “if you had been here, my brother would not have died. 22 But I know that even now God will give you whatever you ask.” AntiChristian:Have u heard of prayer of intercession? Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: and the prayer of faith shall save the sick, [b]and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have [/b]committed sins, they shall be forgiven him. Now u don't have faith, u dont believe in Jesus, I assume nobody that knows u in person has faith in Jesus, but u want him to dash u one million dollars. No be JuJu be that. Well, u can ask TenQ to intercede on your behalf or maxinDhouse..I think they are nicer Christians. Me I have little patience with ignorant apologetics. |
| Re: Did Jesus Tell Lies? by Kobojunkie: 5:31pm On Jun 27, 2023 |
AntiChristian:1. The Law compiled and referred to as the Good News or Gospel of Jesus Christ, the same Law Jesus Christ is written to have taught to His followers before He then sent them out to teach it to all those out in the world. ![]() 2. I believe if you actually read the book of Job for yourself you would have at least realized that righteousness is by God's very approval. So, are you insinuating you are God Himself that you would out of nowhere decree me righteous? ![]() 3. That would depend on God Himself unless you believe His methods are inefficient or something. Job is not recorded to have complained though. ![]() 4. Beginning from the beatitude in Matthew 5, you will find that Jesus Christ mentioned the importance of righteousness in the Kingdom of God, and by Chapter 6 of the same book, He explained that it should be the main focus of everyone who is a follower of His. ![]() 5. God pours out His mercies on all of mankind every day, including on the wicked and the ungrateful but I wouldn't go as far as to claim He grants the wishes of everyone. I bet there are things you wished for in life that you eventually had to give up on since you were not able to achieve or make it happen for yourself. As for that which God gives, it cannot be compared to that which you obtain by your own will and hard work. Righteousness may not matter to you who are not of God as it isn't what you are used to and able to attain, but to those who believe in Him and are citizens in His Kingdom, God's righteousness is the ultimate goal and desire, and no man can enter into God's presence without it. ![]() |
| Re: Did Jesus Tell Lies? by AntiChristian(op): 5:57pm On Jun 27, 2023 |
This is why i said you should show me where Lazarus had any faith in the miracles! Now you brought his sister Martha! So why can't you intercede for me to have 1,000,000 Kuwaiti Dollars for us to test Matthew 7:7 and other verses in the OP? Hope you'll get the gist now! The persons the miracles happened to were not involved in the having faith in the miracle! SIRTee15: |
| Re: Did Jesus Tell Lies? by AntiChristian(op): 5:58pm On Jun 27, 2023 |
TenQ:K, Blackmailer! |
| Re: Did Jesus Tell Lies? by SIRTee15: 6:26pm On Jun 27, 2023 |
AntiChristian: Lazarus believed in Jesus b4 he died. He called on Christ to heal him. Why should I intercede on your behalf when u don't believe in Jesus Christ. Read that my post and digest it very well. |
| Re: Did Jesus Tell Lies? by SIRTee15: 6:35pm On Jun 27, 2023 |
AntiChristian:Besides the intercession of the dead cannot be applied to u because u very much alive and u have mouth that u can use to call on Jesus. So u comparing apple to oranges. This is your own case here.... Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: and the prayer of faith shall save the sick, [b]and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have [/b]committed sins, they shall be forgiven him. So ask people to interceded for u only when u have faith and believe in the Son of God Jesus Christ. |
| Re: Did Jesus Tell Lies? by hashtagged(m): 7:06pm On Jun 27, 2023 |
AntiChristian:You watch season 6 episode 12 without watching season 1-5. How would you understand. Instead of lording over and faulting a God you know not. Why not study the Bible and seek him genuinely, you would find out that he is loving, forgiving, meek and lowly at heart. He cares for us but hates the wicked. There would be a time when we are all called to answer for every empty word we have said, I keep praying he corrects me in his anger and pulls me closer in his wrath. I am not saying this out of spite but out of genuine love and care for your salvation. Seek him and he would find you. If you know his genuine love you would run out unto the streets proclaiming his name. Just ask him genuinely it costs nothing. |
| Re: Did Jesus Tell Lies? by MightySparrow: 7:29pm On Jun 27, 2023 |
hashtagged:He will not study the Bible like his mentors: Zakir Naik, Ahmed Deedat, Shanu Ally, Mohammed Hijab Adepoju. They are all silly people. The present a rogue prophet as a perfect example for humanity. Antichristian is an Antichrist like his prophet. |
| Re: Did Jesus Tell Lies? by MightySparrow: 7:34pm On Jun 27, 2023 |
AntiChristian:See greed. You'd better go and join Boko Haram and bandits - your brothers in Sexlam. |
| Re: Did Jesus Tell Lies? by hashtagged(m): 8:12pm On Jun 27, 2023 |
MightySparrow:Even if he is misguided let's refrain from calling them silly, God did not make any of us silly, we are all sinners it's by the mercy of jesus we know what we know. God can pull anyone to him even the most unlikely. I pray his mercies keep speaking for us all |
| Re: Did Jesus Tell Lies? by TenQ: 9:04pm On Jun 27, 2023 |
AntiChristian:LOL! I just showed you that in your quest to win an argument, you were willing to claim superiority in knowledge to your Prophet Mohammed. What does that make you? A good Muslim!? It's the truth bro: you are not being blackmailed. |
| Re: Did Jesus Tell Lies? by IamV: 9:17pm On Jun 27, 2023 |
AntiChristian:One thing I appreciate about Christianity is tolerance from the folks that practices it. You see that last paragraph I highlighted,even if you say exactly those words to the faces of christians ,even in the area they are majority,they will most likely ask God to grant you repentance & forgiveness. I'm very certain they won't burn you alive or kill you for making such inciting statement in their midst. There's lessons to learn there. Sometimes,you get to a certain stage in life & you realize that people's actions & inactions matters more than whatever they say. I honestly don't expect you to understand why I made those statements,but I will be very impressed if you do. Do have a lovely day. |
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