₦airaland Forum

Throwback:
FBI is not equivalent of our DSS.

The US Secret Service is equivalent of our DSS.

While FBI is what our current Federal Police would be equivalent to when we also have State Police.

EgunMogaji2:
Secret Service, DEA, Homeland Security are other examples of federal police.

J3susFr3ak:
Things have evolved a lot since the 1960s. There is a lot more awareness about the root causes of the riots and "pogroms" that took place in the 1940s and 1960s.

Reading from the history books just in the case for Jos for instance. In 1945 the riots against Igbos in Jos was done at the height of the Great Depression (the Jos economy was directly tied to the global prices of Tin which was depressed for a while). The Europeans brought in most of the lower skilled tin laborers from the core North areas. A lot of these lower skilled miners lost their jobs in the mines or were made redundant. The Igbos were better educated and skilled and still had their well paying jobs in the colonial Government. They also had other technical construction skills that the Colonials valued which the Hausas clearly lacked. The Hausas were mostly lower skilled miners and petty traders. Even in the market in Jos, the Igbos dominated that area as well. So there was a lot of envy and anger harbored by these Hausa traders and an argument in the markets one day unleashed the short fuse and thus provoked a lot of killings of the Igbos by the Hausas based on market competition. The Jos natives were clearly not a part of that chaos.

Thankfully, the Europeans had the means to quickly contain and normalize things.

There was already a wide spread manifesto in the same year by the Hausas to kill every Southerner and all the indigenous ethnic groups in Jos the moment the Europeans left. SO my question is: Why don't you also tell the Hausa Fulani to behave themselves as well?

PaNnamdi:
With the the rampant and diverse rate insecurity in nigeria, I think it has become necessary for states in Nigeria to operate state police forces solely under the command of the state governor.

Do you support the establishment of state police in Nigeria? share your views in comments.

Mrnairalandd:
Let me give you this advice for free, if you someone who always at centre of war, riot, battles and fights with others, trust me, that person is the problem.

Let’s pretend as if nothing happened in the 40s, 50s to 60s, now take a look at what is happening today in Yorubaland and Igboland, pls compare with the 40s and 60s, there is a common factor; igbos. Igbo tribe is the common factor, they are always at loggerheads with this or that.

If we don’t come together to condemn these people called Igbos, they ll keep making the same mistake.

Go and listen to what Sir Ahmad’s Bello said about the Igbos in the 50s/60s, it’s on YouTube, it’s been over 40yrs but the Igbos are still doing exact what they man said years ago

Mrnairalandd:
Let me give you this advice for free, if you someone who always at centre of war, riot, battles and fights with others, trust me, that person is the problem.

Let’s pretend as if nothing happened in the 40s, 50s to 60s, now take a look at what is happening today in Yorubaland and Igboland, pls compare with the 40s and 60s, there is a common factor; igbos. Igbo tribe is the common factor, they are always at loggerheads with this or that.

If we don’t come together to condemn these people called Igbos, they ll keep making the same mistake.

Go and listen to what Sir Ahmad’s Bello said about the Igbos in the 50s/60s, it’s on YouTube, it’s been over 40yrs but the Igbos are still doing exact what they man said years ago

Maazieze:
If state police are to be introduced, state judiciary should be introduced, states should have their own constitutions that dont contradict the national constitution. And their activities should be transparent to the federal government, i dont trust state governors at all.

Grayoso:
State Policing is a good, welcomed and long-overdue policy but it will be difficult to implement because of the huge disparity in the wealth of Nigerian States which means many States will simply not be able to afford to set it up and run it efficiently.

Regional polici

nf is more practical as it would be fairly easy to fund. It would also be a lot less unwieldy and bureaucratic than State Policing.

The NPF cannot ever work. Large swathes of Nigeria is improperly policed because of the inefficient nature of the NPF.

Nigeria today needs smart and efficient policies and institutional set ups, where possible, that can take account of the differences and peculiarity of her people.

Grayoso:
Indeed. Besides, the excuse Governors will abuse State policing shows that Nigerians are too myopically focused on politics alone.

Pastors talk politics all the time from the pulpit when this is not so in other climes. Maternity ward, they are talking politics instead of focusing on contractions lol.

Ordinary folks who should be worried about security of lives and property are busy worrying about Governors persecuting their political opponent with State police.

Yet, how much times will the police serve Governors in comparison to their primary duty of protecting Nigerian lives and property while fighting crime?

We really need to start focusing on what is important, progressive and beneficial to the ordinary Nigerian and not worrying always about what a group, I.e politicians, that are not even 1% of the population will do to each other.

ViceGovernor:
Don't be ridiculous y'all 🙄
Which kind yeye state police... governors cannot pay civil servants salaries...some are taking percentage salary, some are not collecting for a long period of time.
Now you want them to add state police that you and I know they won't pay them and then when they start robbing you people in your states you start complaining.

Abeg abeg abeg 🤲🏽 the thugs state governments have under their control is enough please we don't need more of them.
Imagine a governor of one north central state in control of an entire police force 😳😳😳.
Wahala for who go against am...popo go murd the person for broad daylight tag am kidnapper

J3susFr3ak:
Somebody once said....state police, Federal pay. (or meant to say, pay sourced from the Feds).

This is still a catch 22 but can offer a new angle of things. If the Governor of that NC state you allege will abuse the system, then simply withdraw the "Federal Pay" and the state police. Something like a carrots and sticks approach but with greater autonomy.

Over time, say, 10 years, each state is challenged to grow its economy to the point of fully budgeting for their own police force. So many lessons and observations would have been learned by then.

But yeah...you can never win the war on terror using the current system.

ViceGovernor:
I don't think you fully understand how powerful governors are in this Nigeria.
Take a close look at the last presidential primary.... certain state govs ganged up and circumvented a presidents decision.

A president cannot have his WAY when going out of office but an outgoing gov will always have his way in the state's affairs not to talk of a sitting governor.
They will always find a way to circumvent any checks and balances that will be put in place.

I think the best thing is to prevent them from such powers. Remember power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Billionaire2:
Yes, absolutely imperative..

Also there should be a hotline that provides direct and prompt information to police ..

In South Africa, it doesn’t matter where you’re. Just dial 10111 and police will appear from nowhere .. in fact the nearest police van will respond to the crime scene.

Parachoco:
Im in support of State Police but they will still be under the Federal Police in heiracy

But I doubt a lot of States will be able to run a State Police

Praxis758:
Yes, because every crime is local.

We claim to model our democracy towards the US, the same US has city police, county police, state police and one federal police which is FBI (equivalent to our DSS)

We are overdue for state police. Some skeptics who are anti-state police believes the state governors will abuse it; question: are the governors not abusing the federal police?

LordReed:
I agree. And the tribalism and religion will be the biggest problem the country will face as a fallout of having state police. Especially in Northern states that have embraced religion as part of their identity, imagine a state official declaring that they demolished a public structure because it had a design that could be interpreted as a cross. What do you think such officials would do with police forces fully under their control?

Maazieze:
If state police are to be introduced, state judiciary should be introduced, states should have their own constitutions that dont contradict the national constitution. And their activities should be transparent to the federal government, i dont trust state governors at all.

tundein18:
I don’t see it as a problem. If you’re a southern Christian just stay out of there. This current system is worse than dealing with that unless you want the south to stay poor. The same way they want Islam is the way we want progression in ours

LordReed:
You think it would be limited to the Christian Muslim divide? The fact that you are not an indigene of the state will also become an issue amongst other discriminatory practices that would be in full force.

Maazieze:
If state police are to be introduced, state judiciary should be introduced, states should have their own constitutions that dont contradict the national constitution. And their activities should be transparent to the federal government, i dont trust state governors at all.

tundein18:
So you want to continue with this same structure then?

Throwback:
FBI is not equivalent of our DSS.
The US Secret Service is equivalent of our DSS.
While FBI is what our current Federal Police would be equivalent to when we also have State Police.