₦airaland Forum

vanitybutiwanti:
You also marry the yorubas, why can't you live in peace with them?

we don't inter marry with the Yorubas

JpBiz92:
we don't inter marry with the Yorubas

The Reality is different from your wishful thinking , pesonally, I know over 10 igbo and yoruba couples

Penguin2:
And you think Southeast can’t actualize Biafra without the Southsouth?

It is technically impossible, geographically impossible and politically impossible

Get that to your head, southeast can never ever stand alone.

How do you want to create a landlocked country in the middle of another country.

vanitybutiwanti:
Nobody is trying to severe any bond please, before this election our parent in the ss have always told us to be cautious of the south Easterners. stop trying to drag us into your Biafra, we can inter marry, do businesses together and you can also buy properties and migrate to our region but WE DO NOT WANT TO BE PART OF YOUR BIAFRA, develop your 5 states maybe we would be willing to join in your agitation but for now considering the fact that we are better than you economically stop trying to force us to join you, it no surprise though because misery loves company

The SS and SE have one voting pattern. Stop talking long trash.

TINUBUSCO, IT'S YOUR RIGHT TO SHINE YOUR LIGHTS NOW, TO SHOW YOUR GOODNESS AND TO LIVE YOUR LIFE VERY WELL BY LEAVING BEHIND AN ENDURING LEGACY OF GOOD DEMOCRATIC GOVERNANCE.
ALL THESE RANTINGS WILL STOP THE MOVEMENT YOU AND THE 3TIERS OF GOVERNMENT ADOPT FAPRES FOTCS AND CTC FOCS TRFG.

FROM ORUNTO27 ORISAORUNTOSPEAKS.

blocksy007:
The SS and SE have one voting pattern. Stop talking long trash.

You are the one talking trash, who is talking about voting pattern? How many SS have you seen advocating for a different country like the SE?

Penguin2:
Where did you see Biafra in what I wrote up there?

Or do you have cognitive difficulties?

Don't mind that mumu check well nah SW nah the guy be.

slim75d:
You guys should stop deceiving yourself, there's no bond between you guys and we the N/Deltans, you're only tenants doing business in our land

Mrs man U are not from Niger Delta. Shut it.

Tukpa8:
Ss has no connection with south east....no matter their begs, we don't even reason them.

only ignorant person will write all these..

What today known as south south was carved out from two regions; eastern region and western region.....but ignorant landlocked crying fools will think the whole south south was carved out from Eastern region...see why we don't even look at their tears for alliance because they are too ingenue to us..


In the 1940s The Ijaws were divided into two regions, western region and eastern region.
the Ijaws of Delta state, edo state and Ondo state were from the old western region, which was later midwest and then bendel to now, Ondo, edo and Delta state....Ijaws were the largest ethnicity in the old western region behind the Yorubas.......in the other part, the Ijaws of bayelsa and rivers were added to the old eastern region and later old rivers state to now Bayelsa and rivers.

The Ijaws who were the largest ethnicity in old western region behind the Yorubas were given referendum to stand on their ground which is midwestern.....but the Ijaws who were also the largest ethnicity in the old eastern region behind the igbos were never given referendum to join the western Ijaw brothers by the igbo dominated government because of the crude oil.......this sparked grievances and later led to Adaka Boro using arm agitation to an extent forcefully declaring the independent niger delta republic in 1966

To put record straight,,,,the Ijaws were first southern region protectorate in 1900 with the Yorubas and the Igbos,,,,then later nigeria was made three regions,,,,the Ijaws were splitted into two regions, western and eastern regions.

only ignorant ibo youths will have delusion mind that the whole south south were part of the eastern region.....and no one should argue with them because they are born fools and why we Ijaws called them piri ama abu.....yes, the igbos are piri ama abu... everyone know it... because they behave exactly like forest beings.


Another record about the voting pattern..
To debunked the lies of this piri ama owei write up..
South south and southeast have never have same voting system until 2010 and 2015...
The records are there...we The igbos in the 1960s have party like NCNC led by Zik,,,Yorubas had Action congress led by Awo and the Ijaws had Niger delta congress led by Dapper Biriye..

Niger delta congress and NCNC were dreaded enemies due to the NCNC refusal to grant referendum for the Eastern Ijaws.
The niger delta congress in entirety aligned with the northern party till all the parties at then desolved..............then later, the Igbos had a party called apga led by ojukwu and all igbos rally round their apga party but the Ijaws as usual join their northern alliances for PDP..........

To make it straight,,,,the Ijaws in their entire lives never give one vote to NCNC and APGA which are the two igbos party.....rather, the Ijaws formed their niger delta congress party to teach the NCNC a bitter lesson by aligning with the northern party........then later when apga came, the Ijaws join PDP to teach apga lesson....

It was 2010 that the igbos out of frustration leave their lonely apga to join PDP.......this is the history of the igbo party system and the Ijaw party system.....

An historical prove below... quite observe the voting pattern

Eod

slim75d:
You guys should stop deceiving yourself, there's no bond between you guys and we the N/Deltans, you're only tenants doing business in our land

Guy shut up. No SS man go fit talk like this. Just rest I don catch U already. We that are looking for people that will boost our region.

Jogs1900:
The guy knows nothing about history.
Historically, Delta and Edo states were under western region administered from ibadan.
If igbos are dragging SS, Yorubas too have the right to drag SS too.

And thank God we are not part of SW. See SS is smart we can see how enemies already. The SS is feeding Nigeria but the wicked leaders keep our region underdeveloped. Where are these leaders from? The SW and the North. The SE has done nothing to us that should attract any hate.

vanitybutiwanti:
You have all those resources yet you generate chicken change as IGR monthly? why are your people so bitter and full of hate despite the phantom resources in your region? how much does Imo and Abia state state get from the FG monthly as as oil and gas producing states? you think if it was the other way round; the SE getting the lion share from FAAC and the SS getting pittance, the SE lawmakers would have gone through the proper channel for secession without trying to drag the SS into the union. Your elders know that if the 5 states are allowed to secede, hunger and starvation will kill the SE. The other day soludo complained about his state generating a measly 2b every month when Rivers easily generate 12b, Delta 7B and Bayelsa 2b every month, why wont failures force themselves to identify with a region with potential?

Lol

Bayelsa receives one the highest derivation allocation from FAAC and is with the lowest LGA and population in Nigeria, tell me how their lives are better than an Southeasterner.

Maybe you do not know that IGR is driven by tax and tax means you have to levy the people. It has never occurred to you that the reason the IGR of southeast states is low because our governors do not want to subject our people to excessive taxation in the name of increasing IGR because excessive tax kills business.

If not, the Onitsha Main Market which is the biggest in the entire West Africa is enough to generate the IGR of Bayelsa and Cross River combined.

vanitybutiwanti:
You are the one talking trash, who is talking about voting pattern? How many SS have you seen advocating for a different country like the SE?

NOT every Igbo man is advocating for a separate country. Peter Obi is Igbo and he is not advocating for a separate country.

The SS knows their enemies, we are not fools. During election the SW will gum body with North and after election they start to show fake love. Oga rest.

helinues:
SE people are just the only one still wallowing ( no disrespectful) about the 2015 election loss. Which year did both GEJ and Madam peace supported David Lyon of the same Apc you and your likes don't want to hear at all. Are you saying the same 2015 GEJ election loss to Apc has been wiped out from Bayelsa state people. This is politics you either win or lose. Moreover, didn't this same SW people supported GEJ in 2011 election?

Of course the position of the president is more valuable and useful . That's why both SW and SS renewed their old friendship to secure the both position. They rubbed our back, we reciprocated

The 2016 Bayelsa guber was local election and had nothing to do with Tinubu or Southwest. Is David Lyon Yoruba?

And the only reason GEJ supported David Lyon was because Seriake Dickson disrespected him and refused to allow Timi Alaibe get the PDP ticket. That was why GEJ switched his support from PDP to punish Dickson. How does that relate to Tinubu or Southwest or are you incapable of separating facts?

Beggy beggy people.
When was the SS ever with you anyway ?

The SE voted for Yari, a northern Muslim against Akpabio your southern Christian brother.
Was it the SW that ordered you to do that ?
Go get some sense and stop crying after spilt milk.

blocksy007:
Don't mind that mumu check well nah SW nah the guy be.

It’s quite obvious.

blocksy007:
Don't mind that mumu check well nah SW nah the guy be.

It’s quite obvious.

The only reason I engage some of them is so I don’t allow their narrative unrefuted before some gullible people starts thinking what they are saying is true.

blocksy007:
And thank God we are not part of SW. See SS is smart we can see how enemies already. The SS is feeding Nigeria but the wicked leaders keep our region underdeveloped. Where are these leaders from? The SW and the North. The SE has done nothing to us that should attract any hate.

Ask Isaac Boro
What im saying is that Yorubas have claims to Edo State and Delta State. Itshekiris are Yorubas, there is Olukumi another Yoruba clan in Delta state too and Benin are Yorubas cousins. Edo and Delta will never be part of Biafra likewise Ijaw too. Next time, he should not lump the SS together. He needs to be specific.
Why is the agitation for Biafra only in the SE and not in the SS?
SW is not bothered about the oil. From the 1st republic till now, Yorubas have been the voice for resource control and regionalism because they know they can survive without other regions. Has anybody in the SE either dead or alive spoken about resource control? No, because they can't survive without other regions.

Omoawoke:
It is technically impossible, geographically impossible and politically impossible

Get that to your head, southeast can never ever stand alone.

How do you want to create a landlocked country in the middle of another country.

Talk of ignorance…

Are you aware that Switzerland, Czech Republic, Ethiopia, Rwanda, etc, are landlocked countries? Is your Nigeria better than them today?

I don’t even want to remind you that there’s a river called Azumini River in Abia State that empties into the Atlantic Ocean and the Southeast can build a seaport there.

It’s a pity the kind of lies you have been fed with. Quite pathetic!

I can't imagine arguing with some monsurudeen who's so poor that he cannot change the brown rusted roof of his house.

Ndigbo ibem, choose your arguments Wisely.

helinues:
We SE/SS terms was terminated in the just concluded Senate president position. SE chose Yari a northerner over Akpabio who is your neighbor

For how long would you be continue with this world crying?

The last bus left, SE is now officially politically stranded

Stale....

This is where the SW sold their brother GEJ for Buhari...

Your lies and treachery is too much for me to bear

Tinubu didn't even get 1/10th of these hate from you wicked people.

How were you guys created?

Penguin2:
Talk of ignorance…

Are you aware that Switzerland, Czech Republic, Ethiopia, Rwanda, etc, are landlocked countries? Is your Nigeria better than them today?

I don’t even want to remind you that there’s a river called Azumini River in Abia State that empties into the Atlantic Ocean and the Southeast can build a seaport there.

It’s a pity the kind of lies you have been fed with. Quite pathetic!

As they were born and forced between the knees to take watery akamu with no vitamins,,,they are fed with this generational lies...

Jogs1900:
Ask Isaac Boro
What im saying is that Yorubas have claims to Edo State and Delta State. Itshekiris are Yorubas, there is Olukumi another Yoruba clan in Delta state too and Benin are Yorubas cousins. Edo and Delta will never be part of Biafra likewise Ijaw too. Next time, he should not lump the SS together. He needs to be specific.
Why is the agitation for Biafra only in the SE and not in the SS?
SW is not bothered about the oil. From the 1st republic till now, Yorubas have been the voice for resource control and regionalism because they know they can survive without other regions. Has anybody in the SE spoken about resource control? No, because they can't survive without the other region.3

If this country is divided today then we prefer to go with SE or stand alone. The SW is very good at betraying us. It's only after election U remember SS. Abeg free me jor. I go with SE anyday any time.

Penguin2:
Since the 1952 elections in the colonial Nigeria till this year’s general elections, about 70 years later, the Southeast and Southsouth have, to a substantial extent, always voted in same direction.

The two regions have been like a woman’s breast where if you are able to suck one, you will get the other one for free. That is that if you can get the Southsouth to support your presidential ambition as a presidential candidate then you are getting the southeast as jara, and vice versa.

This might be because these two regions were historically one region before the balkanization that happened in 1967 at the wake of the Civil War which was intended to weaken the homogeneity of the Old Eastern Region.

But asides the fact that these regions shared same political and regional entity in the past, they are almost, substantially, same people as can be observed from their homogeneous Christianity, similarities in culture, customs, etc. The only substantially separation between these people is dialects.

Now, this near homogeneity is why they tend to share same worldview and are always attracted to same thing, ideas and ideals. Hence the consistency in voting in same direction in successive elections.

This union between SE/SS is why northern politicians have always coveted an alliance between the north and SE/SS. This was the pattern since 1960 when Northern and Eastern alliance birthed the first indigenous government when Tafawa Balewa became Prime Minister and Azikiwe became President. This alliance was sustained in the 1979 and 1983 elections, and between 1999 till 2015.

We can say that that pattern was broken by Buhari in 2015 because he was overly popular in the north. But even Buhari himself courted the North/Eastern alliance in 2 election cycles but failed to get because the Easterners failed to gravitate to him because of the reason we just finished seeing for 8 years.

Now, after the last election where the incumbent president was able to be declared ‘winner’ because Atiku and Obi being on the ballot divided the Northern/Eastern alliance votes, I’ve noticed that Tinubu has commissioned his foot soldiers to start both online and offline propaganda to try to break the bond between the two brothers of Southeast and Southsouth.

That’s why Asari Dokubo started saying gibberish online about how he was selling Igbos and all. It’s obvious the intention was to get the Igbos to react, and from there spark an ethnic friction between the Ijaw and Igbo and from there they will use propaganda to lump other ethnic minorities in Southsouth into it of how Igbos are trying to dominate them and other lies they’ve told since the 1960s.

But the Igbos are always one million miles ahead of these agents of darkness. That’s why till today not even an Igbo baby has responded to Asari Dokubo. You would wonder if all Igbos are in one WhatsApp group where we were instructed not to respond to Asari but we are not. We are just so alike that we reason and react same way to things. We saw through Asari from a million miles and ignored him. Now he has foolishly crawled back to whence he came.

But not only Asari, even here on Nairaland, I’ve seen multiple threads trying to tell Southsouth people why they should stop associating with the Southeast. Some have even created threads to tell Ebonyi people that they are not Igbos just so they would stop adding to the voting powerhouse that is SE/SS.

Now, apart from Asari and online minions, a closer look at the actions Wike, Ibori, Akpabio and co, will tell you that they are trying to re-engineer the Southsouth away from the Southeast and redirect them towards the Southwest so they can birth a SS/SW alliance that would now be going into alliance with the north to win elections. That’s the reason they fought so had to give Akpabio the Senate Presidency just to make it seem that Tinubu cares about the Southsouth.

Hence my question, why is Tinubu and his men trying to separate two brothers?

Do you not know we can see through you from a million miles away?

Do you think your propaganda and shenanigans will separate us?

Do you think this is 1960s when you sold lies and propaganda to cause divisions and succeeded with it?

Who is threatened by the SE/SS unbreakable alliance?

Which bond? Like the Biafrian soldiers massacre of people of the Midwest region which now includes part of South South during the Biafrian war.

I am sure GEJ is still regretting for associating himself with the SE. They were one of the cause of his losing the election.

Azikiwe fought against secession clause proposed by Awolowo twice. He was hoping to become the Nigerian Prime minister. He quickly formed an alliance with the North thinking the northerners were mumu that he could ride over till they gave him a ceremonial president position

Raskimonojendor:
Which bond? Like the Biafrian soldiers massacre of people of the Midwest region which now includes part of South South during the Biafrian war.

I am sure GEJ is still regretting for associating himself with the SE. They were one of the cause of his losing the election.

Azikiwe thought the northerners were mumu that he could ride over till they gave him a ceremonial president position

Hypocrite..

The same GEJ you tribal people threw under the bus?

Cooly100:
Hypocrite..

The same GEJ you tribal people threw under the bus?

GEJ had a chance to re-write his wrong by running an inclusive Government, instead the ogogoro master filled his government with the Ibo people. They called him "our son" and even changed his middle name to ebelechucku.

The rest is now history.

Jogs1900:
Ask Isaac Boro
What im saying is that Yorubas have claims to Edo State and Delta State. Itshekiris are Yorubas, there is Olukumi another Yoruba clan in Delta state too and Benin are Yorubas cousins. Edo and Delta will never be part of Biafra likewise Ijaw too. Next time, he should not lump the SS together. He needs to be specific.
Why is the agitation for Biafra only in the SE and not in the SS?
SW is not bothered about the oil. From the 1st republic till now, Yorubas have been the voice for resource control and regionalism because they know they can survive without other regions. Has anybody in the SE spoken about resource control? No, because they can't survive without the other region.3

Even Ebonyi will never be part of Biafra. Atleast according to the most important man in that state. Governor Umahi.

As per resource control. 100% true.

blocksy007:
If this country is divided today then we prefer to go with SE or stand alone. The SW is very good at betraying us. It's only after election U remember SS. Abeg free me jor. I go with SE anyday any time.

Mention those in the SS that wants to go with you.Jonathan?Wike? Akpabio? Oba of Benin?
Who amongst the SS stakeholder will go with a less productive region?
Do you think Itshekiris, Ijaws and Urhobo that are the real Deltans will go with the SE?
Just answer truthfully.

Raskimonojendor:
Even Ebonyi will never be part of Biafra. Atleast according to the most important man in that state. Governor Umahi.

These SE people are looking for survival and that's the reason for always mentioning SS in their phantom country.When they are ready to stand alone, the will not think of involving SS in their phantom Biafra.
SW leaders have been taking bold steps because they know they can survive without any region.

helinues:
We SE/SS terms was terminated in the just concluded Senate president position. SE chose Yari a northerner over Akpabio who is your neighbor

For how long would you be continue with this world crying?

The last bus left, SE is now officially politically stranded

I even forgot this.

Raskimonojendor:
GEJ had a chance to re-write his wrong by running an inclusive Government, instead the ogogoro master filled his government with the Ibo people. They called him "our son" and even changed his middle name to ebelechucku.

The rest is now history.

Coward....

So when the kwunu master filled his government with the northerners...what did you utterly slavish strong man do?

Weak and cowards everywhere in SW.

Jogs1900:
These SE people are looking for survival and that's the reason for always mentioning SS in their phantom country.When they are ready to stand alone, the will not think of involving SS in their phantom Biafra.

The SE always leech on other regions. Their own homogeneous region is not enough.

Those real Niger Deltans (and not the phantom Nairaland ones) have said they would rather have their own republic which makes alot of sense.