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US Cluster Bombs Deal Is Clear Signal That War Is Not Going Well For Ukraine by rottennaija(op): 3:10pm On Jul 08, 2023
US cluster bombs deal is clear signal that war is not going well for Ukraine

America risks losing the moral high ground by supplying Ukraine with a weapon banned by much of the world, so why are they supplying it?

Re: US Cluster Bombs Deal Is Clear Signal That War Is Not Going Well For Ukraine by rottennaija(op): 3:12pm On Jul 08, 2023
Sky News: "So why supply it?

"Well, the facts on the ground are not in Ukraine's favour. The transfer is a clear signal that the war is not going well for Ukraine.

"The so-called spring offensive did not materialise in the spring and looks set to falter through the summer too.

"Ukraine is fast running out of more conventional artillery with supply stocks in America and elsewhere running low.

"A 'bridge of supply' is necessary."

https://news.sky.com/story/us-cluster-bombs-deal-is-clear-signal-that-war-is-not-going-well-for-ukraine-12917101

Re: US Cluster Bombs Deal Is Clear Signal That War Is Not Going Well For Ukraine by rottennaija(op): 3:18pm On Jul 08, 2023
⚡️UK PM Sunak on US Plans to supply cluster munitions to Ukraine: UK is signatory to a convention which prohibits production or use of cluster munitions and discourages their use

Re: US Cluster Bombs Deal Is Clear Signal That War Is Not Going Well For Ukraine by rottennaija(op): 3:19pm On Jul 08, 2023
US deliveries of cluster munitions to Ukraine mean that US President Joe Biden plans to start a nuclear war. This was stated by Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of Russia Dmitry Medvedev.
“ Maybe the dying grandfather, obsessed with unhealthy fantasies, simply decided to leave gracefully, provoking nuclear Armageddon and taking half of humanity with him to the next world? "- wrote Dmitry Medvedev.

Re: US Cluster Bombs Deal Is Clear Signal That War Is Not Going Well For Ukraine by rottennaija(op): 3:22pm On Jul 08, 2023
Due respect to Tucker Carlson, but he’s as full of shit about Ukraine as he was about January 6th.
His smiley face doesn’t change fact Russia invaded sovereign Ukraine; 1000’s are dead, including women & children, the world order is assailed and Putin is a punk.

Re: US Cluster Bombs Deal Is Clear Signal That War Is Not Going Well For Ukraine by rottennaija(op): 3:27pm On Jul 08, 2023
🇺🇦💥🇷🇺‼️In Kiev, demoralized by Russian tactics - "We can't do anything"‼️

"Ukrainian soldiers cannot launch an attack because of the dense minefields in front of the Russian defensive positions and the active action of the artillery and the Air Force," 👇

Re: US Cluster Bombs Deal Is Clear Signal That War Is Not Going Well For Ukraine by mbaise1000: 5:11pm On Jul 08, 2023
ND it's going well for russia who have being using the same cluster bombs since? How some nigerians reason is horrible.
For goodness sake, these people want to kill themselves, anything to do it fastest toughest is allowed, this is war BTW, you can't stop anyone that really want to kill themselves from doing it, russia Hase been using this cluster bomb since and if the war was going to well for them, they shouldn't have used it in the first place so what exactly is paining anyone if Ukraine want to also use it? This is not a fashion parade
Re: US Cluster Bombs Deal Is Clear Signal That War Is Not Going Well For Ukraine by Akuruoulo(m): 5:39pm On Jul 08, 2023
And Russia begging Iran not to start war with Israel at all cost signals they have taken over Ukraine 1year ago
Re: US Cluster Bombs Deal Is Clear Signal That War Is Not Going Well For Ukraine by Tiopii: 7:25pm On Jul 08, 2023
Any small weapon that NATO wants to test on Russian soldiers, Russia would be threatening the use of Nuclear weapons, funny thing Russia is using cluster bombs.

I told you people, NATO is the one holding back not Russia, even Putin knows this.

Ukraine can't launch attacks, but they are reclaiming territories 😂😂😂😂😂.

Turkey and Egypt officially declared for Ukraine. dey playyyyy
Re: US Cluster Bombs Deal Is Clear Signal That War Is Not Going Well For Ukraine by BentizilL2: 8:20pm On Jul 08, 2023
mbaise1000:
ND it's going well for russia who have being using the same cluster bombs since? How some nigerians reason is horrible.
For goodness sake, these people want to kill themselves, anything to do it fastest toughest is allowed, this is war BTW, you can't stop anyone that really want to kill themselves from doing it, russia Hase been using this cluster bomb since and if the war was going to well for them, they shouldn't have used it in the first place so what exactly is paining anyone if Ukraine want to also use it? This is not a fashion parade
Russia haven't used cluster bomb in Ukraine, say the truth for once...

Infact Putin warn the West against it, saying Russia has many of them...

If you aren't against Biden sending it to Ukraine, then you're monster... Even his western partner are against it.. UK, Canada, Spain etc are all against it...
Re: US Cluster Bombs Deal Is Clear Signal That War Is Not Going Well For Ukraine by Guyman01:
mbaise1000:
ND it's going well for russia who have being using the same cluster bombs since? How some nigerians reason is horrible.
For goodness sake, these people want to kill themselves, anything to do it fastest toughest is allowed, this is war BTW, you can't stop anyone that really want to kill themselves from doing it, russia Hase been using this cluster bomb since and if the war was going to well for them, they shouldn't have used it in the first place so what exactly is paining anyone if Ukraine want to also use it? This is not a fashion parade
I can tell you that Russia has not used Cluster bombs because its not on CNN for the past one year, they can't miss such opportunity for propaganda
Re: US Cluster Bombs Deal Is Clear Signal That War Is Not Going Well For Ukraine by mbaise1000: 10:05pm On Jul 08, 2023
Guyman01:
I can tell you that Russia has not used Cluster bombs because its not on CNN for the past one year, they can't miss such opportunity for propaganda
Check again chief
Re: US Cluster Bombs Deal Is Clear Signal That War Is Not Going Well For Ukraine by Watcharena: 10:08pm On Jul 08, 2023
Guyman01:
I can tell you that Russia has not used Cluster bombs because its not on CNN for the past one year, they can't miss such opportunity for propaganda
please louder
Re: US Cluster Bombs Deal Is Clear Signal That War Is Not Going Well For Ukraine by mbaise1000: 10:14pm On Jul 08, 2023
BentizilL2:
Russia haven't used cluster bomb in Ukraine, say the truth for once...

Infact Putin warn the West against it, saying Russia has many of them...

If you aren't against Biden sending it to Ukraine, then you're monster... Even his western partner are against it.. UK, Canada, Spain etc are all against it...
Where are you getting your own information, there has being many reports of Russian use of the cluster bombs in Ukraine even many times this year, check by yourself and stop depending on hear say
Re: US Cluster Bombs Deal Is Clear Signal That War Is Not Going Well For Ukraine by mysticwarrior(m): 1:04am On Jul 09, 2023
mbaise1000:
Where are you getting your own information, there has being many reports of Russian use of the cluster bombs in Ukraine even many times this year, check by yourself and stop depending on hear say
Why don't you drop factual evidence to contest his write-up and back up your claims.
Re: US Cluster Bombs Deal Is Clear Signal That War Is Not Going Well For Ukraine by mysticwarrior(m): 3:09am On Jul 09, 2023
Tiopii:
Any small weapon that NATO wants to test on Russian soldiers, Russia would be threatening the use of Nuclear weapons, funny thing Russia is using cluster bombs.

I told you people, NATO is the one holding back not Russia, even Putin knows this.

Ukraine can't launch attacks, but they are reclaiming territories 😂😂😂😂😂.

Turkey and Egypt officially declared for Ukraine. dey playyyyy
Holding back on what exactly? 30 NATO countries can't even move against a lone Russia what a shame.
Re: US Cluster Bombs Deal Is Clear Signal That War Is Not Going Well For Ukraine by Tiopii: 5:45am On Jul 09, 2023
mysticwarrior:
Holding back on what exactly? 30 NATO countries can't even move against a lone Russia what a shame.
NATO has a lot more military hardware they can offer Ukraine. if the war was between NATO and Russia it'd be over a long time ago.

NATO isn't fighting Russia or fighting in Ukraine. and NATO wants Russia to return to Russia. Russia is lucky
Re: US Cluster Bombs Deal Is Clear Signal That War Is Not Going Well For Ukraine by kris(m): 7:24am On Jul 09, 2023
Videos of Russians using cluster munitions on Ukrainian civilians:



https://twitter.com/worldonalert/status/1503498324132966401?s=20


Videos of Russians complaining about their conditions:



Re: US Cluster Bombs Deal Is Clear Signal That War Is Not Going Well For Ukraine by BentizilL2: 7:41am On Jul 09, 2023
mbaise1000:
Where are you getting your own information, there has being many reports of Russian use of the cluster bombs in Ukraine even many times this year, check by yourself and stop depending on hear say
Anybody can make incorrect, no evidence...

It's blackmailing, do you have evidence Russia used it... Russia had many in storage, main reason Putin warn US not to send it...
Re: US Cluster Bombs Deal Is Clear Signal That War Is Not Going Well For Ukraine by mysticwarrior(m): 8:34am On Jul 09, 2023
Tiopii:
NATO has a lot more military hardware they can offer Ukraine. if the war was between NATO and Russia it'd be over a long time ago.

NATO isn't fighting Russia or fighting in Ukraine. and NATO wants Russia to return to Russia. Russia is lucky
Since all the sanctions they have imposed on Russia hasn't made the Russians to leave Ukraine, Why don't they matched their armies there to drive the Russians out of Ukraine?
Re: US Cluster Bombs Deal Is Clear Signal That War Is Not Going Well For Ukraine by Toktee(m): 9:05am On Jul 09, 2023
rottennaija:
US cluster bombs deal is clear signal that war is not going well for Ukraine

America risks losing the moral high ground by supplying Ukraine with a weapon banned by much of the world, so why are they supplying it?
And the use of same by the invading terrorists from Russia means what exactly?


I thought you putin's robots don't trust any western media why now?
Re: US Cluster Bombs Deal Is Clear Signal That War Is Not Going Well For Ukraine by Toktee(m): 9:08am On Jul 09, 2023
Tiopii:
Any small weapon that NATO wants to test on Russian soldiers, Russia would be threatening the use of Nuclear weapons, funny thing Russia is using cluster bombs.

I told you people, NATO is the one holding back not Russia, even Putin knows this.

Ukraine can't launch attacks, but they are reclaiming territories 😂😂😂😂😂.

Turkey and Egypt officially declared for Ukraine. dey playyyyy
Yea, five Azov battalion commanders just touch down in Lviv yesterday this got Russia fuming, they are ready to payback what Russia did to them.
Re: US Cluster Bombs Deal Is Clear Signal That War Is Not Going Well For Ukraine by Toktee(m): 9:10am On Jul 09, 2023
BentizilL2:
Anybody can make incorrect, no evidence...

It's blackmailing, do you have evidence Russia used it... Russia had many in storage, main reason Putin warn US not to send it...
what kind of blind argument is this?
Did you chose to be like this or you were born like this?
Re: US Cluster Bombs Deal Is Clear Signal That War Is Not Going Well For Ukraine by Toktee(m): 9:14am On Jul 09, 2023
rottennaija:
US deliveries of cluster munitions to Ukraine mean that US President Joe Biden plans to start a nuclear war. This was stated by Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of Russia Dmitry Medvedev.
“ Maybe the dying grandfather, obsessed with unhealthy fantasies, simply decided to leave gracefully, provoking nuclear Armageddon and taking half of humanity with him to the next world? "- wrote Dmitry Medvedev.
When are they going to start the nuclear war?
You lots keep following Putin like Chelsea fans last season.... How many times Putin threatened nuclear war?
Is he the only one with nuclear weapons?
Re: US Cluster Bombs Deal Is Clear Signal That War Is Not Going Well For Ukraine by Toktee(m): 9:17am On Jul 09, 2023
rottennaija:
🇺🇦💥🇷🇺‼️In Kiev, demoralized by Russian tactics - "We can't do anything"‼️

"Ukrainian soldiers cannot launch an attack because of the dense minefields in front of the Russian defensive positions and the active action of the artillery and the Air Force," 👇
You have graduated from higher institutions with this your copy and paste to nairaland.
Why don't you reason and type instead of pasting people's opinions?
Re: US Cluster Bombs Deal Is Clear Signal That War Is Not Going Well For Ukraine by mbaise1000: 9:19am On Jul 09, 2023
mysticwarrior:
Why don't you drop factual evidence to contest his write-up and back up your claims.
You may want to use Google a little, and you will get dates and places, hopes this will be some factual evidence, ho get it yourself there
Re: US Cluster Bombs Deal Is Clear Signal That War Is Not Going Well For Ukraine by mbaise1000: 9:25am On Jul 09, 2023
BentizilL2:
Anybody can make incorrect, no evidence...

It's blackmailing, do you have evidence Russia used it... Russia had many in storage, main reason Putin warn US not to send it...
I don't get my information from ONLY one source, I try to recheck things and I don't like arguing things I am not sure of, this is not my war and I hate people killing people for whatever reason, I have no reason to support anyone killing anyone, I am not taking any sides here, use Google and read more news and don't draw your conclusions only on what you get from one side, there must be blackmail and propaganda in wars, and it can only work on those that are taking sides. I stand by what I said
Re: US Cluster Bombs Deal Is Clear Signal That War Is Not Going Well For Ukraine by Toktee(m): 9:25am On Jul 09, 2023
BentizilL2:
Russia haven't used cluster bomb in Ukraine, say the truth for once...

Infact Putin warn the West against it, saying Russia has many of them...

If you aren't against Biden sending it to Ukraine, then you're monster... Even his western partner are against it.. UK, Canada, Spain etc are all against it...
Russia has killed hundreds of civilians in the north-eastern Ukrainian city of Kharkiv using indiscriminate shelling and widely-banned cluster munitions, according to new research by Amnesty International.

Amnesty said it had found evidence of Russian forces repeatedly using 9N210/9N235 cluster bombs, as well as "scatterable" munitions - rockets that eject smaller mines that explode later at timed intervals.

The BBC visited five separate impact sites in residential neighbourhoods in Kharkiv and saw evidence of a distinctive, symmetrical spalling effect associated with cluster munitions. We showed images from the sites to three weapons experts, who all said the impacts were consistent with the controversial weapons.

"Those impacts are from cluster munitions, it's a classic signature," said Mark Hizney, a senior researcher in the arms division of Human Rights Watch, a campaign group. "And in one image you can see a remnant of a stabiliser fin from one of the submunitions," he said.

CCTV footage passed to the BBC by a resident at one of the sites showed successive clustered detonations - "a very strong indicator of submunitions from a cluster weapon," said Hamish de Bretton Gordon, a former British Army colonel and Cambridge University weapons expert.
Re: US Cluster Bombs Deal Is Clear Signal That War Is Not Going Well For Ukraine by Nobody: 11:04am On Jul 09, 2023
Toktee:
Russia has killed hundreds of civilians in the north-eastern Ukrainian city of Kharkiv using indiscriminate shelling and widely-banned cluster munitions, according to new research by Amnesty International.

Amnesty said it had found evidence of Russian forces repeatedly using 9N210/9N235 cluster bombs, as well as "scatterable" munitions - rockets that eject smaller mines that explode later at timed intervals.

The BBC visited five separate impact sites in residential neighbourhoods in Kharkiv and saw evidence of a distinctive, symmetrical spalling effect associated with cluster munitions. We showed images from the sites to three weapons experts, who all said the impacts were consistent with the controversial weapons.

"Those impacts are from cluster munitions, it's a classic signature," said Mark Hizney, a senior researcher in the arms division of Human Rights Watch, a campaign group. "And in one image you can see a remnant of a stabiliser fin from one of the submunitions," he said.

CCTV footage passed to the BBC by a resident at one of the sites showed successive clustered detonations - "a very strong indicator of submunitions from a cluster weapon," said Hamish de Bretton Gordon, a former British Army colonel and Cambridge University weapons expert.
Ukraine uses banned petal bombs on their own population in Donetsk everyday. Both sides have used cluster ammunitions in this war just that one side is now at a critical disadvantage. The British are right, cluster ammunition means things are not going well for Ukrainian nazis. They will kill more of their own people with cluster bombs and Russia will continue to kill them from a distance. If I were Putin i won't even bother to conquer the rest of Ukraine. Just keep killing thousand s of them trying foolishly to win back territory.
Re: US Cluster Bombs Deal Is Clear Signal That War Is Not Going Well For Ukraine by Toktee(m): 12:24pm On Jul 09, 2023
atmy1:
Ukraine uses banned petal bombs on their own population in Donetsk everyday. Both sides have used cluster ammunitions in this war just that one side is now at a critical disadvantage. The British are right, cluster ammunition means things are not going well for Ukrainian nazis. They will kill more of their own people with cluster bombs and Russia will continue to kill them from a distance. If I were Putin i won't even bother to conquer the rest of Ukraine. Just keep killing thousand s of them trying foolishly to win back territory.
So you finally changed the narrative and confessed that Russia terrorists have used the same bomb, at least I proved to you that Putin used same to invade Ukraine kindly point to a news report where Ukraine used it without having it?

As for things are not going well with Ukraine, who's on defense now, Ukraine or Russia?
Re: US Cluster Bombs Deal Is Clear Signal That War Is Not Going Well For Ukraine by Opolopoopolonio: 9:47pm On Jul 09, 2023
All hail pro-Putin l*natics! cheesy
Re: US Cluster Bombs Deal Is Clear Signal That War Is Not Going Well For Ukraine by Tiopii: 12:52am On Jul 10, 2023
mysticwarrior:
Since all the sanctions they have imposed on Russia hasn't made the Russians to leave Ukraine, Why don't they matched their armies there to drive the Russians out of Ukraine?
This isn't a NATO vs Russia war, I'm assuming you understand the current battlefield conditions.

We all know the only time NATO would be triggered is if Russia attacks a NATO state.

The sanctions is just to express disapproval of the Russia vs Ukraine war, Russia is the aggressor.
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