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gigabyte13:
Putin only made NATO more popular and more friendly to his own neighbours.
If you are a good neighbor to your neighbors, they wouldn't go out, looking for help that you can provide in abundance....

Accepting weapons on your land from the enemy of your neighbor,what do you call that.

They finally bow down to America.

They used Ukranian war to accelerate their joining NATO. No war fought on their tuff, non of their people killed. \

This is a case of using the monkey paw to remove the chestnut out of the fire but one senseless Zelensky keeps allowing his people get killed and his country destroyed and yet he is not any closer to joining the so called NATO.

Even the people urging him on did not believe he could be this stupid.

pansophist:
Think about this in a moment.

Regardless of Nato, Finland and Sweden are already under EU/Nato security umbrella. These two Nordic countries have been working with nato closely since like forever, and all their military equipment is Western.

So joining Nato has little relevance in the eyes of the Russians. It's like officially marrying a lady you've been forking for twenty years. lol

Also, I personally think Joining Nato was a foolish mistake. Too many decades of no war and prosperity and American propaganda have created new generations of weak leaders that don't understand power politics and sphere of influence.

Joining nato comes from the fear that Russia is on a journey to invade every one of its neighbors starting with Ukraine, meanwhile, since 2014, Russia has tried every possible means to resolve this crisis diplomatically, but the west refused.

They rather arm Ukraine to the teeth, grow their army to be Europe's seconds largest, and prepare for this very day, to fight the Russians. But blame Russia for protecting themselves.

And if a war between Russia and Nato ever breaks out, its a point of no return. And even though Finland may not be the cause of the war, they will have to partake in the consequence.

What do you think of the recent behaviour from Erdogen and Turkeyie? Also Indi has refused to back the use of BRICS decentralised currency. What's your take?

Unfortunately most people delegate thinking to the media, most people are unknowingly part of a cult with the western media as their charismatic leader.
They won't even understand what you just said and will look towards western-media/nato-propaganda to tell them if you are right or wrong.

pansophist:
Think about this in a moment.

Regardless of Nato, Finland and Sweden are already under EU/Nato security umbrella. These two Nordic countries have been working with nato closely since like forever, and all their military equipment is Western.

So joining Nato has little relevance in the eyes of the Russians. It's like officially marrying a lady you've been forking for twenty years. lol

Also, I personally think Joining Nato was a foolish mistake. Too many decades of no war and prosperity and American propaganda have created new generations of weak leaders that don't understand power politics and sphere of influence.

Joining nato comes from the fear that Russia is on a journey to invade every one of its neighbors starting with Ukraine, meanwhile, since 2014, Russia has tried every possible means to resolve this crisis diplomatically, but the west refused.

They rather arm Ukraine to the teeth, grow their army to be Europe's seconds largest, and prepare for this very day, to fight the Russians. But blame Russia for protecting themselves.

And if a war between Russia and Nato ever breaks out, its a point of no return. And even though Finland may not be the cause of the war, they will have to partake in the consequence.

You will only find out when NATO is attack.

ken6488:
what Will NATO do

9jatriot:
They used Ukranian war to accelerate their joining NATO. No war fought on their tuff, non of their people killed. \

This is a case of using the monkey paw to remove the chestnut out of the fire but one senseless Zelensky keeps allowing his people get killed and his country destroyed and yet he is not any closer to joining the so called NATO.

Even the people urging him on did not believe he could be this stupid.

Why are you sounding like a coward? So a Sovereign nation should be dancing to the orders of a dictator in another country?

ken6488:
what Will NATO do

E tire me for that idiot o.
You think if NATO/EU/west can defeat Russia them for never stop Russia?
Sweden and Finland leaders are just stupid.
Why provoke a Russia if you don't need it.
This invasion of Ukraine started more than 8 years ago and Ukraine started the conflict,so if Sweden and Finland no plan to start any conflict with Russia,then why provoke Russia?
To tell you that they are planning to antagonize Russia in the future and so need the backing of NATO

Regex:
What do you think of the recent behaviour from Erdogen and Turkeyie? Also Indi has refused to back the use of BRICS decentralised currency. What's your take?

Stoplying:
Erdogan is one big traitor if you ask me. He violated an agreement with Russia turkey and Ukraine by freeing the nazi guys and while he and zelenski were violating that agreement, he called for a peace agreement between Russia and Ukraine. (This must be a joke.) Then he claims he is expecting Putin in Turkey in August (So he doesn't understand that his backstabbing has cancelled the meeting already, is this guy this stupid ?).
Now we are seeing more and more favours which Russia was doing to Turkey. How do you just backstab a country which has been helping you so much ?
Oh and turkey 🦃 promised to build a drone factory for Ukraine, while Russia was building a nuclear reactor for turkey 🦃... This is a kind of betrayal which is difficult to understand.

Why should Russia honour any agreements with Turkey 🦃 ? There are lots of trade agreements between Russia and turkey which keep the Turkish economy from collapsing entirely.

All these countries which Erdogan is aligning with tried to use his military to do a coup against him some years ago, Russia saved him from that, and they recently tried to influence Turkish elections to get Erdogan out of office, but again Russia sided with him and defended his country's electoral independence from outsiders.
And now Erdogan backstabs Russia and sides with those who want him dead


It is better to be an enemy of turkey 🦃 than to be a friend of turkey 🦃, indeed turkey 🦃 rewards its enemies and punishes its friends.

India is thinking of its own selfish interests while ignoring the interests of brics entirely. I hope India comes to its senses because it would benefit from bricks currency rather than playing Trojan horse in bricks.
It feels like since 2014, many nations have been losing their senses.

Poidade:
Wetin dey special for this una NATO sef...

No worry, you go know one day.

For now, make you keep quiet if you no get wetin to talk.

Call it cowardice or any name you like, but did you see Sweden fight a war? No, they applied sense.
Ukraine is like a bride sought by both NATO and Russia, if Zenlesky was sensible he could have gotten a deal from both sides. Turkey initially refused to give their own approval to Sweden joining NATO until they got some sort of deal. That is how international politics is played at that level.

Still on the cowardice issue, nothing in this life will make Canada, Mexico, Cuba, Venezuala do anything that will make US go to war with them, is that still cowardice?? No sensible leader will allow her people get killed. Keyword is sensible leader

You chose your battles carefully

SangoOlukosoOba:
Why are you sounding like a coward? So a Sovereign nation should be dancing to the orders of a dictator in another country?

Kingsnairaland:
This special military operation is the only one in the world where you can kill UK and USA evil nato military men and UK and USA will not declare war on Russia lol

This is the only operation in the world where Russia will kill and bomb nato military men in Ukraine where they are having coffee and eating in a restaurant and the country from which they came from will quickly say they have retired or went on the mission on there own lol
.

No state burial and no admission that they were sent by the government due to been scared of mother Russia


God bless putin God bless mother Russia.

God bless you bros
I stand with you

These guys believe starting a nuclear war is proof of having big balls. They belong to a club of paid trolls called nafo.

9jatriot:
Call it cowardice or any name you like, but did you see Sweden fight a war? No, they applied sense.
Ukraine is like a bride sought by both NATO and Russia, if Zenlesky was sensible he could have gotten a deal from both sides. Turkey initially refused to give their own approval to Sweden joining NATO until they got some sort of deal. That is how international politics is played at that level.

Still on the cowardice issue, nothing in this life will make Canada, Mexico, Cuba, Venezuala do anything that will make US go to war with them, is that still cowardice?? No sensible leader will allow her people get killed. Keyword is sensible leader

Poidade:
Wetin dey special for this una NATO sef...

Wetin special for ECOWAS wey una dey masturbate for since

Abrahamweb:
E tire me for that idiot o.
You think if NATO/EU/west can defeat Russia them for never stop Russia?
Sweden and Finland leaders are just stupid.
Why provoke a Russia if you don't need it.
This invasion of Ukraine started more than 8 years ago and Ukraine started the conflict,so if Sweden and Finland no plan to start any conflict with Russia,then why provoke Russia?
To tell you that they are planning to antagonize Russia in the future and so need the backing of NATO

in a a total nuclear war with NATO Russia multiple countries Will withdraw from NATO and declare neutrality, not every country is sucidal

Stoplying:
Unfortunately most people delegate thinking to the media, most people are unknowingly part of s cult with the western media as their charismatic leader.
They won't even understand what you just said and will look towards western-media/nato-propaganda to tell them if you are right or wrong.

Western media , Western propaganda but you believe news from one unverified telegram channel .

9jatriot:
Call it cowardice or any name you like, but did you see Sweden fight a war? No, they applied sense.
Ukraine is like a bride sought by both NATO and Russia, if Zenlesky was sensible he could have gotten a deal from both sides. Turkey initially refused to give their own approval to Sweden joining NATO until they got some sort of deal. That is how international politics is played at that level.

Still on the cowardice issue, nothing in this life will make Canada, Mexico, Cuba, Venezuala do anything that will make US go to war with them, is that still cowardice?? No sensible leader will allow her people get killed. Keyword is sensible leader

You chose your battles carefully

Did Ukraine start a war?

Who is the agressor? Who invaded Ukraine? Nigeria?


Mexico and Cuba wont do that because the USA knows how to diplomatically nip them!

Why is every nation surrounding Russia joining NATO? Is it because Russia is so friendly? All your neigbours can never be wrong! You definitely the problem!

ken6488:
For 35 Countries to join to fight one country describe how powerful Russia is

Na just nuclear weapon them dey respect because if he start, that your bald head would be vaporized

Makamatic:
Western media , Western propaganda but you believe news from one unverified telegram channel .

Where did I say that I believe news from one unverified telegram channel? And who is to verify telegram channels ? Western media ?

PrinceMajestic:
NATO only showing the world how powerful and frightening the Russian Federation can be. Just imagine almost 30+ countries NATO and allies all gathering together under US control for security guarantees yet claim to be sovereign countries. This era made me know what sovereignty truly means with respect to Putin's Russian Federation and President Xi communist China. Sovereign and powerful countries do not need to gang up in order to defend themselves that's why the the great Russian Federation will always be more powerful and ahead of them. They ganging up because they scared of been devoured by the great Russian bear. They won't be saved when the time comes. God bless President Vladimir Putin, The Big Daddy of Planet Earth

President putin
commander General of the universe
Earth, after almighty God in charge
putin is next

Masterito:
You will only find out when NATO is attack.

let me break your heart
UK USA France will not risk
New York, Paris, London because of some European countries that a fact

If war break out today with NATO most countries will break away from the organisation

Tinubuwins2023e:
Na just nuclear weapon them dey respect because if he start, that your bald head would be vaporized

am glad you called nuclear weapons just

They did it to stop Sweden from burning their so called sacred quran.

This people are very very insecure and troubled.

Stoplying:
Where did I say that I believe news from one unverified telegram channel? And who is to verify telegram channels ? Western media ?

Oga I know u well . If they post unverified telegram news on that mumu thread you guys follow glorify Russia you guy would be the one to hail Russia but when they show you guy real world stats you guy would always live in denial . You , kingsnairaland , somehow and that other one that Acts like Russian citizen but Russia no know him papa

Cuba, Venezuala are countries in South/ North America that are on loggerheads with US, but they will not be as foolish to go and meet China to give them weapons to fight the US. You know why, there are consequences for such actions.

During the time of Trump, US killed an Iranian top military personnel, you know what Iran did, they promised to revenge, they then went to look for an abandoned US military base and blew it up. That is the extent they went. In this case US was the aggressor but they were still sensible enough to use their sense and not try to attack US directly despite the rhetoric.

International politics require a high level of sense.

The whole of Europe do not like Russia that much but they do business with them especially in areas of cheap oil and nuclear research.

SangoOlukosoOba:
Did Ukraine start a war?

Who is the agressor? Who invaded Ukraine? Nigeria?


Mexico and Cuba wont do that because the USA knows how to diplomatically nip them!

Why is every nation surrounding Russia joining NATO? Is it because Russia is so friendly? All your neigbours can never be wrong! You definitely the problem!

Makamatic:
Oga I know u well . If they post unverified telegram news on that mumu thread you guys follow glorify Russia you guy would be the one to hail Russia but when they show you guy real world stats you guy would always live in denial . You , kingsnairaland , somehow and that other one that Acts like Russian citizen but Russia no know him papa

You know me well ?
Are you well ?
Did nafo tell you to say that ?
Mind reading doesn't work mate. Address whet I say, not what you believe I think, that is if you want to remain in the world of logic and sanity.

9jatriot:
Cuba, Venezuala are countries in South/ North America that are on loggerheads with US, but they will not be as foolish to go and meet China to give them weapons to fight the US. You know why, there are consequences for such actions.

During the time of Trump, US killed an Iranian top military personnel, you know what Iran did, they promised to revenge, they then went to look for an abandoned US military base and blew it up. That is the extent they went. In this case US was the aggressor but they were still sensible enough to use their sense and not try to attack US directly despite the rhetoric.

International politics require a high level of sense.

The whole of Europe do not like Russia that much but they do business with them especially in areas of cheap oil and nuclear research.

Did Ukraine attack Russia?

Did Ukraine just start getting weapons from US in 2022?

Like I said, Ukraine is a sovereign nation that can buy weapons or join any alliance. We are not talking about a village here, but a country.

Where was the diplomatic option? Same war he chose has increased NATO members

Okay! If Russia attacked Ukraine for being a threat, why didn't Putin attack Finland? Finland also shares a long boarder with Russia. It shows that Putin just choose violence because he is a dictator and has sole power. He cannot make such move in a democratic government.

Putin claims he is protecting his nation and more members are being inducted into NATO. What is he protecting at this point?

tolexy007:
NATO chief Jens Stoltenberg announces that President Erdogan agreed to forward Sweden’s bid to Turkey’s parliament.



Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has agreed to back Sweden’s bid to join NATO after a year of blocking the move citing Turkish security concerns.
NATO leader Jens Stoltenberg announced on Monday that Erdogan agreed to forward Sweden’s membership bid for the alliance to Turkey’s parliament.

After talks in Vilnius, Lithuania, with Erdogan and Sweden’s Prime Minister Ulf Kristersson, Stoltenberg said Turkey had agreed to move forward.

“I’m glad to announce … President Erdogan has agreed to forward the accession protocol for Sweden to the grand national assembly as soon as possible, and work closely with the assembly to ensure ratification,” Stoltenberg told a news conference.

“This is a historic day.”
Sweden’s NATO accession has been held up by objections from Turkey since last year, accusing Stockholm of harbouring Kurdish activists Ankara regards as “terrorists”.
But a joint statement issued after three-way talks stated Turkey and Sweden would work closely in “counter-terrorism coordination” and also boost bilateral trade ties.

‘At the gates of the EU’

Earlier on Monday, Erdogan upped the stakes further by demanding that the European Union revive Turkey’s stalled EU membership bid as a precondition for Sweden joining NATO.
The surprise announcement by Erdogan before departing for a NATO summit in Lithuania’s capital added new uncertainty to Sweden’s bid to become the alliance’s 32nd member.
It was the first time that Erdogan linked his country’s ambition to join the EU with Sweden’s efforts to become a NATO member.
“Turkey has been waiting at the door of the European Union for over 50 years now, and almost all of the NATO member countries are now members of the European Union,” Erdogan told reporters in Istanbul.

“I am making this call to these countries that have kept Turkey waiting at the gates of the European Union for more than 50 years. Come and open the way for Turkey’s membership in the European Union. When you pave the way for Turkey, we’ll pave the way for Sweden as we did for Finland.”

US President Joe Biden praised “the commitment” by Erdogan on Sweden’s NATO bid later on Monday.

“I stand ready to work with President Erdogan and Türkiye on enhancing defense and deterrence in the Euro-Atlantic area. I look forward to welcoming Prime Minister Kristersson and Sweden as our 32nd NATO Ally. And I thank Secretary General Stoltenberg for his steadfast leadership,” a White House statement said.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/7/10/turkeys-erdogan-agrees-to-back-swedish-nato-bid-stoltenberg

Tell all the putin's robots on nairaland that Putin/Russia lost again.

Russia losing on all front, by the time this war is ended, Russia will realise their loses, let them continue with their never ending special operation in Ukraine.

PrinceMajestic:
NATO only showing the world how powerful and frightening the Russian Federation can be. Just imagine almost 30+ countries NATO and allies all gathering together under US control for security guarantees yet claim to be sovereign countries. This era made me know what sovereignty truly means with respect to Putin's Russian Federation and President Xi communist China. Sovereign and powerful countries do not need to gang up in order to defend themselves that's why the the great Russian Federation will always be more powerful and ahead of them. They ganging up because they scared of been devoured by the great Russian bear. They won't be saved when the time comes. God bless President Vladimir Putin, The Big Daddy of Planet Earth

Russia wanted to Demilitarise Ukraine and prevent them from joining NATO. Unfortunately, Russia has Demilitarised themselves and has increased the NATO membership while militarising Ukraine