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Lukuluku69:
If he opened the Thread, then be sure he will come back to it. He is unlike some of you with a Dozen monikers patrolling Nairaland peddling the faith based on Paul's lies.

He will come back after vital informations and points had been discussed right? Who are the some of you with dozen monikers?

Lukuluku69:
Don't sweat it, he will be back.

He will come back from the prison?

Lukuluku69:
And while at it, the Damsel that Jesus woke up too, was she a believer before or after the raising? You remember "Talitha Kumi episode"?

Goal post shifted, it is no more Lazarus but another damsel

Let your mind be at rest, make it one step after the other. Nobody is winning an argument or discussion with you okay

RightChanneI:
He will come back after vital informations and points had been discussed right? Who are the some of you with dozen monikers?




He will come back from the prison?





Goal post shifted, it is no more Lazarus but another damsel

Let your mind be at rest, make it one step after the other. Nobody is winning an argument or discussion with you okay

Do you believe in progressive arguments? If you do, go back to where I made mention of the dead being raised and link it to my submission.

Someone said Antichrist need to belief in Christ for Miracle of a Million Dollar to happen to him and I asked the Dead man that was raised, was he a believer before or after the said Raising? Then you came in with the fact that Lazarus was a friend a d Disciple of Jesus and I asked you to show me where that is written in the New Testament

Is that too much of a ask?

On the Damsel that was raised was she also a believer before or after the raising? If you don't know, say so no one is beating anyone here rather than say things you can't back up.

Between, I am not here to win arguments.

RightChanneI:
This is another chance, if you gat reading problem just hire a primary 1 pupil to help you out. The answer to your question is here, it is either you read gently or you look for a helper to help you out in reading


John 11

11 Now a man named Lazarus was sick. He was from Bethany, the village of Mary and her sister Martha. 2 (This Mary, whose brother Lazarus now lay sick, was the same one who poured perfume on the Lord and wiped his feet with her hair.) 3 So the sisters sent word to Jesus, “Lord, the one you love is sick.”

4 When he heard this, Jesus said, “This sickness will not end in death. No, it is for God’s glory so that God’s Son may be glorified through it.” 5 Now Jesus loved Martha and her sister and Lazarus. 6 So when he heard that Lazarus was sick, he stayed where he was two more days, 7 and then he said to his disciples, “Let us go back to Judea.”

8 “But Rabbi,” they said, “a short while ago the Jews there tried to stone you, and yet you are going back?”

9 Jesus answered, “Are there not twelve hours of daylight? Anyone who walks in the daytime will not stumble, for they see by this world’s light.

10 It is when a person walks at night that they stumble, for they have no light.”

11 After he had said this, he went on to tell them, “Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep; but I am going there to wake him up.”

12 His disciples replied, “Lord, if he sleeps, he will get better.”

13 Jesus had been speaking of his death, but his disciples thought he meant natural sleep.

14 So then he told them plainly, “Lazarus is dead,

15 and for your sake I am glad I was not there, so that you may believe. But let us go to him.”

16 Then Thomas (also known as Didymus[a]) said to the rest of the disciples, “Let us also go, that we may die with him.”


17 On his arrival, Jesus found that Lazarus had already been in the tomb for four days.

18 Now Bethany was less than two miles[b] from Jerusalem,

19 and many Jews had come to Martha and Mary to comfort them in the loss of their brother.

20 When Martha heard that Jesus was coming, she went out to meet him, but Mary stayed at home.

21 “Lord,” Martha said to Jesus, “if you had been here, my brother would not have died.

22 But I know that even now God will give you whatever you ask.”

23 Jesus said to her, “Your brother will rise again.”

24 Martha answered, “I know he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day.”

25 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die;

26 and whoever lives by believing in me will never die. Do you believe this?”

27 “Yes, Lord,” she replied, “I believe that you are the Messiah, the Son of God, who is to come into the world.”

28 After she had said this, she went back and called her sister Mary aside. “The Teacher is here,” she said, “and is asking for you.”

29 When Mary heard this, she got up quickly and went to him.

30 Now Jesus had not yet entered the village, but was still at the place where Martha had met him.

31 When the Jews who had been with Mary in the house, comforting her, noticed how quickly she got up and went out, they followed her, supposing she was going to the tomb to mourn there.

32 When Mary reached the place where Jesus was and saw him, she fell at his feet and said, “Lord, if you had been here, my brother would not have died.”

33 When Jesus saw her weeping, and the Jews who had come along with her also weeping, he was deeply moved in spirit and troubled.

34 “Where have you laid him?” he asked.

“Come and see, Lord,” they replied.

35 Jesus wept.

36 Then the Jews said, “See how he loved him!”

37 But some of them said, “Could not he who opened the eyes of the blind man have kept this man from dying?”

38 Jesus, once more deeply moved, came to the tomb. It was a cave with a stone laid across the entrance.

39 “Take away the stone,” he said.

“But, Lord,” said Martha, the sister of the dead man, “by this time there is a bad odor, for he has been there four days.”

40 Then Jesus said, “Did I not tell you that if you believe, you will see the glory of God?”

41 So they took away the stone. Then Jesus looked up and said, “Father, I thank you that you have heard me.

42 I knew that you always hear me, but I said this for the benefit of the people standing here, that they may believe that you sent me.”

43 When he had said this, Jesus called in a loud voice, “Lazarus, come out!”

44 The dead man came out, his hands and feet wrapped with strips of linen, and a cloth around his face.

Jesus said to them, “Take off the grave clothes and let him go.”

45 Therefore many of the Jews who had come to visit Mary, and had seen what Jesus did, believed in him.

46 But some of them went to the Pharisees and told them what Jesus had done.

47 Then the chief priests and the Pharisees called a meeting of the Sanhedrin.

“What are we accomplishing?” they asked. “Here is this man performing many signs.

48 If we let him go on like this, everyone will believe in him, and then the Romans will come and take away both our temple and our nation.”

49 Then one of them, named Caiaphas, who was high priest that year, spoke up, “You know nothing at all! 50 You do not realize that it is better for you that one man die for the people than that the whole nation perish.”

51 He did not say this on his own, but as high priest that year he prophesied that Jesus would die for the Jewish nation,

52 and not only for that nation but also for the scattered children of God, to bring them together and make them one.

53 So from that day on they plotted to take his life.

54 Therefore Jesus no longer moved about publicly among the people of Judea. Instead he withdrew to a region near the wilderness, to a village called Ephraim, where he stayed with his disciples.

55 When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, many went up from the country to Jerusalem for their ceremonial cleansing before the Passover.

56 They kept looking for Jesus, and as they stood in the temple courts they asked one another, “What do you think? Isn’t he coming to the festival at all?”

57 But the chief priests and the Pharisees had given orders that anyone who found out where Jesus was should report it so that they might arrest him.

Oh dear!

Show me where it is written that Lazarus was a believer in Jesus and also a Disciple.

Mary and Martha are not Lazarus.

Lukuluku69:
Oh dear!

Show me where it is written that Lazarus was a believer in Jesus and also a Disciple.

I am very sure you have primary schools pupils around you why not rent or hire anyone of them to help you out in reading if you get problem in reading that Chapter I sent to you.

The answer to your question is there but you are lazy to read. Lazarus was a friend to Jesus Christ even before he death was passed accross to him, so how can he be his closest friend without not believing in him?

Lukuluku69:
Mary and Martha are not Lazarus.

Don't be ignorant, read the whole chapter gently you will get all you need to know on Lazarus. It is not about Mary and Martha alone, just read please

Lukuluku69:
Do you believe in progressive arguments? If you do, go back to where I made mention of the dead being raised and link it to my submission.

Dead man being raised was Lazarus, why not read the chapter I posted above

Lukuluku69:
Someone said Antichrist need to belief in Christ for Miracle of a Million Dollar to happen to him and I asked the Dead man that was raised, was he a believer before or after the said Raising? Then you came in with the fact that Lazarus was a friend a d Disciple of Jesus and I asked you to show me where that is written in the New Testament

Had it been you didn't mentioned Lazarus as the dead man being raised if he believe or not, I would have deal with you based on the level of your understanding of the word of God.

Jesus performed miracles to prove that he was the divine Son of God, to strengthen the faith of those who believed in him, because he loved and had compassion for those in need, and because of the faith of those who believed

If you and your friend need 1 million Kuwait dollars, I will pray for you and you will have it I assure you that

Lukuluku69:
Is that too much of a ask?

You asked a novice question and it is good to follow the instructions of Allah that said you should question the Christians when you're in doubt or in a state of dilemma and confusion

Lukuluku69:
On the Damsel that was raised was she also a believer before or after the raising? If you don't know, say so no one is beating anyone here rather than say things you can't back up.

Between, I am not here to win arguments.

Once we are done with Lazarus then we shall visit the case of the damsel you've been crying over

RightChanneI:
Dead man being raised was Lazarus, why not read the chapter I posted above




Had it been you didn't mentioned Lazarus as the dead man being raised if he believe or not, I would have deal with you based on the level of your understanding of the word of God.

Jesus performed miracles to prove that he was the divine Son of God, to strengthen the faith of those who believed in him, because he loved and had compassion for those in need, and because of the faith of those who believed

If you and your friend need 1 million Kuwait dollars, I will pray for you and you will have it I assure you that




You asked a novice question and it is good to follow the instructions of Allah that said you should question the Christians when you're in doubt or in a state of dilemma and confusion




Once we are done with Lazarus then we shall visit the case of the damsel you've been crying over

You guys throw that around a bit. Lol

That wasn't referring to you Christians but the Jews of Medina who had the Torah with them but still turn around and ask silly questions.

On Lazarus, show me where he was numbered among Jesus Disciples and also a believer.

RightChanneI:
I am very sure you have primary schools pupils around you why not rent or hire anyone of them to help you out in reading if you get problem in reading that Chapter I sent to you.

The answer to your question is there but you are lazy to read. Lazarus was a friend to Jesus Christ even before he death was passed accross to him, so how can he be his closest friend without not believing in him?




Don't be ignorant, read the whole chapter gently you will get all you need to know on Lazarus. It is not about Mary and Martha alone, just read please

I have read it can't find where it says he was a Disciple like you posted.

So, show me.

Lukuluku69:
I have read it can't find where it says he was a Disciple like you posted.

So, show me.

So you don't see where it says OUR FRIEND LAZARUS right? Don't you think you need an ophthalmologist

RightChanneI:
So you don't see where it says OUR FRIEND LAZARUS right? Don't you think you need an ophthalmologist

In your Church our Friend equates to Discipleship?

If I need an Opthalmologist, be sincere with yourself, what do you need?

Lukuluku69:
You guys throw that around a bit. Lol

That wasn't referring to you Christians but the Jews of Medina who had the Torah with them but still turn around and ask silly questions.

Is like you know more than Allah the author of Quran

Quran 10:94 Irving & Mohamed Hegab

If you are in any doubt concerning what We have sent down to you, then question those who have read the Book (Bible) before you: Truth has come to you from your Lord, so do not be a waverer;

Lukuluku69:
On Lazarus, show me where he was numbered among Jesus Disciples and also a believer.

Is this not where you started from?

Lukuluku69:
Then I humbly ask, the man Jesus raised, was he a believer in Jesus before his death or after he was raised?

You are just too daft, how many times would I answer your question or refer you to where your answer is? Can you follow someone without not believing in him?

Rightchannel:
LAZARUS Whom Jesus raised was a friend and follower of Jesus and a brother to Mary and Martha, he strongly believed in Jesus Christ before and after he was raised from the dead

Jesus performed miracles to prove that he was the divine Son of God, to strengthen the faith of those who believed in him, because he loved and had compassion for those in need, and because of the faith of those who believed

Read the bolded part above again 👆

Lukuluku69:
In your Church our Friend equates to Discipleship?

If I need an Opthalmologist, be sincere with yourself, what do you need?

Here we go again, so you were thinking from your anus when asking this silly question right?

Lukuluku69:
Can you show me where it said or written in the Bible that Lazarus was a believer in Jesus pre-raising up? You are assuming here simply because it is said that he was brother to Martha and Mary. There are Thousands of Jews who never believed in Jesus.

RightChanneI:
Is like you know more than Allah the author of Quran

Quran 10:94 Irving & Mohamed Hegab

If you are in any doubt concerning what We have sent down to you, then question those who have read the [b]Book (Bible) before you: Truth has come to you from your Lord, so do not be a waverer;
[/b]



Is this not where you started from?




You are just too daft, how many times would I answer your question or refer you to where your answer is? Can you follow someone without not believing in him?







Read the bolded part above again 👆

Quran 10:94. You are so pathetic you had to sneak in the word "Bible" in your own Translation? Lol

Do the Israelites/Jews call their Books the Bible?

Oh! That's the translation you get your hard ons from?

Now listen and listen carefully, that part of the Quran was addressed to the Jews of Medina and not you man-worshippers.

Lukuluku69:
Quran 10:94. You are so pathetic you had to sneak in the word "Bible" in your own Translation? Lol

Do the Israelites/Jews call their Books the Bible?

Oh! That's the translation you get your hard ons from?

Now listen and listen carefully, that part of the Quran was addressed to the Jews of Medina and not you man-worshippers.

You are a disgrace to Islamic world, how would I sneaked my own word when I am not the author of quran? You are a shame

RightChanneI:
Is like you know more than Allah the author of Quran

Quran 10:94 Irving & Mohamed Hegab

If you are in any doubt concerning what We have sent down to you, then question those who have read the Book (Bible) before you: Truth has come to you from your Lord, so do not be a waverer;




Is this not where you started from?




You are just too daft, how many times would I answer your question or refer you to where your answer is? Can you follow someone without not believing in him?







Read the bolded part above again 👆

@Lukuluku69 I am very sure your brain has been reset, can we now proceed to your damsel?

RightChanneI:
@Lukuluku69 I am very sure your brain has been reset, can we now proceed to your damsel?

Reset? You dolts assume too much. You claimed Lazarus was a Disciple. I asked you for evidence you posted hogwash and you are talking about a brain reset?

Only for you to jump to Quran 10:94 and used a Translation with the word "Bible" sneaked in. Always lying for Jesus. The Quran doesn't use such words but you people are a anyhow lot.

Quran 10:94 is addressed to the Medina Jews and not you man-worshippers. That said, what that verse is saying is that what is in the Torah is the same the Messenger was preaching and not the silly Three in One God you people preach.

I don't expect you to know anyway.

Lukuluku69:
Reset? You dolts assume too much. You claimed Lazarus was a Disciple. I asked you for evidence you posted hogwash and you are talking about a brain reset?

I asked CAN YOU FOLLOW SOMEONE YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN? The question is still hard for you to answer

Lukuluku69:
Only for you to jump to Quran 10:94 and used a Translation with the word "Bible" sneaked in. Always lying for Jesus. The Quran doesn't use such words but you people are a anyhow lot.

Quran 10:94 is addressed to the Medina Jews and not you man-worshippers. That said, what that verse is saying is that what is in the Torah is the same the Messenger was preaching and not the silly Three in One God you people preach.

I don't expect you to know anyway.

Am I the author of Quran?

Earlier you said I sneaked in the word Bible but now is another story

Well, this is another translation, you will cry blood today


Quran 10:94 Abdul Hye

And We did not send before you (O Muhammad) but human to whom We revealed. So you ask the people of the reminder (Scripture - the Torah and the Gospel) if you don’t know.

Lukuluku69:
Reset? You dolts assume too much. You claimed Lazarus was a Disciple. I asked you for evidence you posted hogwash and you are talking about a brain reset?

Only for you to jump to Quran 10:94 and used a Translation with the word "Bible" sneaked in. Always lying for Jesus. The Quran doesn't use such words but you people are a anyhow lot.

Quran 10:94 is addressed to the Medina Jews and not you man-worshippers. That said, what that verse is saying is that what is in the Torah is the same the Messenger was preaching and not the silly Three in One God you people preach.

I don't expect you to know anyway.

Here Allah finished you totally

Quran 10:94 M. Farook Malik

The Messengers which We sent before you, O Muhammad, were also human to whom We sent revelation. If you, O objectors, do not know this, then ask the people of the reminder (Jews and Christians)

Lukuluku69 can we proceed to your damsel?

RightChannel:
Lukuluku69 can we proceed to your damsel?

Do "Friends" equates to "Disciples"?

RightChanneI:
Here Allah finished you totally

Quran 10:94 M. Farook Malik

The Messengers which We sent before you, O Muhammad, were also human to whom We sent revelation. If you, O objectors, do not know this, then ask the people of the reminder (Jews and Christians)

"People send Books" includes Zoroastrians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists.

I can't recall Jesus writing any "Books" though he preached a certain "Injeel" which is just his utterances about the coming Kingdom of God.

But hey if you want to do attachee, you are welcome 😁😁😁

Lukuluku69:
"People send Books" includes Zoroastrians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists.

I can't recall Jesus writing any "Books" though he preached a certain "Injeel" which is just his utterances about the coming Kingdom of God.

But hey if you want to do attachee, you are welcome 😁😁😁

This is not about Jesus writing a book, this is about Allah instructing you to ask people of the book just because you are not adequately equipped.

I still have many versions that will shocked you, including Arabic texts of it

Lukuluku69:
Do "Friends" equates to "Disciples"?

The friendship of it has answered your silly question, isn't it?

Lukuluku69:
Can you show me where it said or written in the Bible that Lazarus was a believer in Jesus pre-raising up?

Can you follow someone you don't have believe in?

Lukuluku69:
"People send Books" includes Zoroastrians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists.

I can't recall Jesus writing any "Books" though he preached a certain "Injeel" which is just his utterances about the coming Kingdom of God.

But hey if you want to do attachee, you are welcome 😁😁😁

You will cry blood today, Allah has put you to shame

Allah even gave you a special name here, INFIDELS



Quran 10:94 Al-muntakhab fi tafsir al-Qur‘an al-Karim

We never sent and inspired before you O Muhammad but men chosen from among the town dwellers whose deeds were natural to man, therefore, you -infidels- may ask those who are well versed in the antecedent Scriptures -Jews and Christians- if indeed you do not know

Allah was a disgrace to his slaves @Lukuluku69

RightChannel:
Allah was a disgrace to his slaves @Lukuluku69

The "Objectors" are who?

If don't have any inclines on the purport of that verse but you lots like quoting it.

RightChannel:
You will cry blood today, Allah has put you to shame

Allah even gave you a special name here, INFIDELS



Quran 10:94 Al-muntakhab fi tafsir al-Qur‘an al-Karim

We never sent and inspired before you O Muhammad but men chosen from among the town dwellers whose deeds were natural to man, therefore, you -infidels- may ask those who are well versed in the antecedent Scriptures -Jews and Christians- if indeed you do not know

Dunce, the infidels are the Meccan Pagans.

Why are you people bereft of any sense as this?

The Verse is telling those who oppose/object to the Prophethood of Prophet Muhammad to go ask the Jews if there is any similarities to what he is preaching now with the Message as contained in the Torah.

Gosh...

Lukuluku69:
Dunce, the infidels are the Meccan Pagans.

Why are you people bereft of any sense as this?

The Verse is telling those who oppose/object to the Prophethood of Prophet Muhammad to go ask the Jews if there is any similarities to what he is preaching now with the Message as contained in the Torah.

Gosh...

Fool, numskull is muhammad now mecca pagan? You're a disgrace to Islamic world, muhammad is now a pagan according to your stupidity

You never see where Allah saId Muhammad? This is just a four lines statement but frustration won't let you understand simple comprehension


Quran 10:94 M. M. Pickthall

And if thou (Muhammad) art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those who read the Scripture (that was) before thee. Verily the Truth from thy Lord hath come unto thee. So be not thou of the waverers


Quran 10:94 M. Farook Malik

The Messengers which We sent before you, O Muhammad, were also human to whom We sent revelation. If you, O objectors, do not know this, then ask the people of the reminder (Jews and Christians)


Quran 10:94 Al-muntakhab fi tafsir al-Qur‘an al-Karim

We never sent and inspired before you O Muhammad but men chosen from among the town dwellers whose deeds were natural to man, therefore, you -infidels- may ask those who are well versed in the antecedent Scriptures -Jews and Christians- if indeed you do not know

RightChannel:
Fool, numskull is muhammad now mecca pagan? You're a disgrace to Islamic world, muhammad is now a pagan according to your stupidity

You never see where Allah saId Muhammad? This is just a four lines statement but frustration won't let you understand simple comprehension


Quran 10:94 M. M. Pickthall

And if thou (Muhammad) art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those who read the Scripture (that was) before thee. Verily the Truth from thy Lord hath come unto thee. So be not thou of the waverers


Quran 10:94 M. Farook Malik

The Messengers which We sent before you, O Muhammad, were also human to whom We sent revelation. If you, O objectors, do not know this, then ask the people of the reminder (Jews and Christians)


Quran 10:94 Al-muntakhab fi tafsir al-Qur‘an al-Karim

We never sent and inspired before you O Muhammad but men chosen from among the town dwellers whose deeds were natural to man, therefore, you -infidels- may ask those who are well versed in the antecedent Scriptures -Jews and Christians- if indeed you do not know

So, Prophet Muhammad is the Objector to his own Message?

Lukuluku69:
So, Prophet Muhammad is the Objector to his own Message?

You are too daft, novice, dull, etc Allah was passing a message to muhammad isn't it? Muhammad was the second person here, so how is muhammad now objector to his own message? Is muhammad the author of Quran

You subjected Muhammad to a pagan which I am well pleased with but had it been you are in core Northern Nigeria, you would have become a thing of the past

Allah sees muhammad and you his followers as unlearned persons, he mandanted you to asked Christians and Jews questions that will widen your understanding of basic things but the shame Allah made you to encountered with by revealing this disgraceful verse won't let you surrender yourself for knowledge. Na your problem be that!

This is a clear case with that of Lazarus, we can proceed to your damsel your raised the other time, so who is that damsel?

Lukuluku69:
The "Objectors" are who?

If don't have any inclines on the purport of that verse but you lots like quoting it.

The objectors are you the followers of muhammad and muhammad himself. Allah said if you do not know this, ask the people of The reminder (Jews and Christians).

Had it been if the objectors are infidels or pagans according to your own stylish stupidity, why was Allah directed them to ask the Christians and Jews and not you Muslims?

RightChannel:
The objectors are you the followers of muhammad and muhammad himself. Allah said if you do not know this, ask the people of The reminder (Jews and Christians).

Had it been if the objectors are infidels or pagans according to your own stylish stupidity, why was Allah directed them to ask the Christians and Jews and not you Muslims?

Lol

Your head need a wobble. In fact several wobbles!

The followers of Prophet Muhammad are the "Objectors and infidels"

No wonder the Christians are anyhow people. You understand nothing.

Lukuluku69:
Lol

Your head need a wobble. In fact several wobbles!

The followers of Prophet Muhammad are the "Objectors and infidels"

Another problem for Islamic world, the last time you said Muhammad was a pagan and now you followers of Muhammad are infidels

Lukuluku69:
No wonder the Christians are anyhow people. You understand nothing.

If we Christians are anyhow people that understand nothing, shall we say Allah was a wayward or he was so stupid to have directed muhammad and his allies to seek for knowledge from the Christians and Jews?


Quran 10:94 Irving & Mohamed Hegab

If you are in any doubt concerning what We have sent down to you, then question those who have read the Book (Bible) before you: Truth has come to you from your Lord, so do not be a waverer;




👉 Shall we know the name of that your damsel?