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Re: 25% In FCT Is A Must by pquaver(m): 1:50am On Jul 18, 2023
chubinwa:
It's a pity BATists can't differenciate between AND. If the statement had said including the fct, that would have been different. But AND is an additional word to a content

If the Fg says we will pay the sum of 50 billion to the 36 states of federation and FCT as palliative...

Are u saying FG will give 36 states 50 billion to share among them and then give FCT abuja itself alone another 50 billion because the people there are hausa yoruba and igbo etc.. Is it that obidients don have critical reasoning or what?

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Re: 25% In FCT Is A Must by pquaver(m): 2:01am On Jul 18, 2023
Newton2024:
You must have 25% in 2/3 of the states and FCT
Again, you must have 25% in 24states and the FCT before you can be declared a president

If you are a student of mathematics, english or philosophy, you would have understand this. The AND there is a disjunction. The two substatements are independent events.


If the Fg says we will pay the sum of 50 billion to the 36 states of federation and FCT as palliative...

Are u saying FG will give 36 states 50 billion to share among them and then give FCT abuja itself alone another 50 billion because the people there are hausa yoruba and igbo etc.. Is it that obidients don have critical reasoning or what? Ok tell me how money will disbursed above.. 36 +fct share 50 billion? Or 50 billion to states then another 50 billion to fct alone.. Mr philosophy math and English.. I am waiting

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Re: 25% In FCT Is A Must by pquaver(m): 2:03am On Jul 18, 2023
VinnyBaba:


OP, It is clearly a MUST. undecided

Don't mind these Deluded APC dingBATS yarning dust! 😏😒

Those who Drafted the constitution are Smart Legal minds,
Not Agberos or Sit@home Corn eaters!😕

25% in FCT means Abuja is Cosmopolitan and has IGBOS, Yorubas, Tivs, Idomas, Urhobos, Ibibios, Idomas, Efiks, Ijaws, Edos, etc

So,Hence A Major Presidential candidate in Nigeria shouldn't Fail WOEFULLY in such a place.🙂

Oya tell us how fg will disburse the money if:

If the Fg says we will share/ or pay the sum of 50 billion to the 36 states of federation and FCT as palliative...

Are u saying FG will give 36 states 50 billion to share among them and then give FCT abuja itself alone another 50 billion because the people there are hausa yoruba and igbo etc.. Oya tell us

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Re: 25% In FCT Is A Must by rummmy: 4:01am On Jul 18, 2023
I want to see 5 of you plus okon .
Meaning that okon must be among the 5. grin

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Re: 25% In FCT Is A Must by wildernessVoice: 4:12am On Jul 18, 2023
FCT is not a state that's why it's not govern by a governor but a minister appointed by the president. This implies the president is the governor of FCT. How can he govern FCT that he didn't win....?

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Re: 25% In FCT Is A Must by Jlow2: 4:27am On Jul 18, 2023
If the constitution can not be respected by apc and agbado then everybody has the right also not also respect the constitution,it should be suspended,apc is not above the constitution

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Re: 25% In FCT Is A Must by OredoPikin: 4:31am On Jul 18, 2023
AdesegunSanni89:
Crap! This is why we say that Obiedients are people lowest IQ in Nigeria.
🤣🤣
Suddenly the agbadorians now have their own dictionary where they have different meaning for AND🤣🤣
Him say na lowest IQ in Nigeria 😁
Very interesting year indeed
Re: 25% In FCT Is A Must by OredoPikin: 4:39am On Jul 18, 2023
MTNnews:
You are too foolish to be replied with this your line of argument. I can bet you never did any course on logic or probably bigotry as ruined all you were taught on logic.



Lolz
Another one in DJ khaled voice🤣

After this whole process, Wikipedia must update another definition of AND in their archive😆
Just now, we only have AND as a conjunction and as a NOUN in the dictionary
The logical part of AND must be introduced because of Tinubu supporters 🤣


It will go this way:
Meaning of AND according to CORNfused Agbadorian philosophers and logicians😁

Him say na logic and bigotry😅 look through the mirror my guy
Judgement nor too far again 😎

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Re: 25% In FCT Is A Must by IamANigerianMan: 4:43am On Jul 18, 2023
OredoPikin:
I usually laugh when I read and listen to APC supporters trying to twist the constitution to suit their agenda.
I have even see some people saying if FCT is that mandatory, then candidates should focus in FCT and forget other states😅 very laughable and dumb argument.
The constitution is written in plain English and not Latin or Chinese.
You must have 25% in 2/3 of the states and FCT
Again, you must have 25% in 24states and the FCT before you can be declared a president

The abracadabra hurriedly carried out by INEC must be annulled
FCT is a must, people saying FCT is like other states don't know what they are saying, Tinubu is both the president and the governor of FCT, these people you are coming to govern must vote for you at least 25% of them that was the mind of the writer of the Constitution.

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Re: 25% In FCT Is A Must by OredoPikin: 5:02am On Jul 18, 2023
IamANigerianMan:

FCT is a must, people saying FCT is like other states don't know what they are saying, Tinubu is both the president and the governor of FCT, these people you are coming to govern must vote for you at least 25% of them that was the mind of the writer of the Constitution.
They know it's compulsory but just have to defend it.
The constitution is very clear on it
Except they introduce another meaning of AND in the dictionary

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Re: 25% In FCT Is A Must by yemex04(m): 6:14am On Jul 18, 2023
The issue of 25% in FCT is a non issue. The silence from those whose logical & sensible reasonings have been eroded will exhibit be very loud after the PEPT is done with. I know till the PEPT is done with, there will be lines of hope for a turn around even if illogical & the noisy neighbors are very good at amplifying such senselessness for Gullibles to swallow it. We fold our arms.

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Re: 25% In FCT Is A Must by tesppidd: 6:34am On Jul 18, 2023
Lol

People should stop forming English King Kongs and chill abeg.

Nobody can deny that this clause of the constitution is unnecessarily very ambiguous,
and the Supreme Court at the end will interprete it the way they want to.

It's just like a MATHEMATICS PROBLEM,;

*Find the PRODUCT OF 5 AND 3 PLUS 2.

Without BODMAS, we would all still be struggling for the correct order till today.

Going forward that clause must be re-written to remove such ambiguity.

But for now only the Supreme Court will interprete this 25 percent matter the way they want.
Re: 25% In FCT Is A Must by 9jii(m): 6:52am On Jul 18, 2023
OredoPikin:

1. Tesppidd please help me to buy salt and Maggie when coming back from the market

Tesppidd went and bought only salt and said he has done what they ask him to do
You are confusing yourself wallahi.
That's the problem with small brain in this vast fast world

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Re: 25% In FCT Is A Must by OredoPikin: 7:06am On Jul 18, 2023
9jii:

You are confusing yourself wallahi.
That's the problem with small brain in this vast fast world
Have dey changed the meaning of AND in the dictionary🤔
Mr fast world brain
Re: 25% In FCT Is A Must by femicyrus(m): 7:18am On Jul 18, 2023
Newton2024:
You must have 25% in 2/3 of the states and FCT
Again, you must have 25% in 24states and the FCT before you can be declared a president

If you are a student of mathematics, english or philosophy, you would have understand this. The AND there is a disjunction. The two substatements are independent events.
Therefore, he who won 29 state should stepdown for he who won 15 states and the FCT?
Re: 25% In FCT Is A Must by OredoPikin: 7:38am On Jul 18, 2023
femicyrus:

Therefore, he who won 29 state should stepdown for he who won 15 states and the FCT?

Who won 29states?
Let me assumed u wanted to say he who got 25% in 29states
The law is the law
There is no logic to the interpretation.

If u like have all As in all subjects and fail English and maths, u will never be admitted by any Nigeria university
If u also like, have A+ in English and maths and F9 in the remaining subjects, u will never get admission to any school
You must have credit in English and maths, and 3 other subjects
Ur emotion or logic is not needed
It is what it is
Re: 25% In FCT Is A Must by femicyrus(m): 7:54am On Jul 18, 2023
OredoPikin:


Who won 29states?
Let me assumed u wanted to say he who got 25% in 29states
The law is the law
There is no logic to the interpretation.

If u like have all As in all subjects and fail English and maths, u will never be admitted by any Nigeria university
If u also like, have A+ in English and maths and F9 in the remaining subjects, u will never get admission to any school
You must have credit in English and maths, and 3 other subjects
Ur emotion or logic is not needed
It is what it is
Tinubu won 25% in 29 federating units out of 37 units otherwise known as 36 states and FCT
Re: 25% In FCT Is A Must by joseph032: 7:54am On Jul 18, 2023
God Bless you Bro.

The president is the Governor of FCT(like State) and Control all it Affairs.

That's Why the 1977 Constitution was Ammended, that Statement "And FCT" wasn't there.

Not like the People there are Special But at least,
Let thier Governor( The President) Get 25% That's the Only way the Law is fair on Them
LOVEALAIGBO:


You probably don't know the meaning of illiterate! Whereas YOU may not be a illiterate.....you're the next worse thing!

Yes, Nigeria comprises 36 states and the FCT! Your problem is you don't know when to use the highlighted statement.....it all depends on the point you're trying to make....the context!

The example of JAMB and the requirement to get credits in english and maths have been overflogged on this section, so i wouldn't belabour the issue! Just to add that when you say Nigeria comprises 36 states and the FCT, you're explaining the component parts that make up Nigeria and there isn't a need to apportion anything or make a distinction....you're just telling us what component parts make up the whole and these parts are not all similar in character!

However, the use of AND changes when you're giving a requirement to achieve before getting a reward as it were.....just like with JAMB requirements! We're agreed that we're talking of the component parts of Nigeria and we're also agreed the FCT is different from the other 36 in its governance structure.....its reason for existence....and its use to the country as a whole! In certain aspects, the FCT would be treated as if it were a state....implying that in other aspects, it will stand and be treated distinct from the 36 states of the country! Unless you can point to a part of the constitution where it states 'in all aspects of politics, elections and governance, the FCT will be treated same as with the 36 states of Nigeria'!

The comma is just used as a pause between parts of a sentence or to separate items on a list. It's of no significance in this argument. What's of significance is the use of AND and INCLUDING: AND makes the FCT stand as distinct from the 36 states.....INCLUDING joins the FCT, though distinct, with the 36 states! The latter is what your argument alludes to.

Had the framers of the constitution been thinking your way, they would have said, '....a candidate must get 25% of the vote in 2/3 of 36 states of Nigeria including the FCT'! They used AND knowing 25% in the FCT is mandatory as it's different in character and governance from the 36 states of Nigeria, being the only component unit that's home to ALL Nigerians and which has the President as its Governor!



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Re: 25% In FCT Is A Must by joseph032: 7:56am On Jul 18, 2023
The president is the Governor of FCT(like State) and Control all it Affairs.

That's Why the 1977 Constitution was Ammended, that Statement "And FCT" wasn't there.

Not like the People there are Special But at least,
Let thier Governor( The President) Get 25% That's the Only way the Law is fair on Them
femicyrus:

Tinubu won 25% in 29 federating units out of 37 units otherwise known as 36 states and FCT

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Re: 25% In FCT Is A Must by Newton2024: 7:59am On Jul 18, 2023
femicyrus:

Therefore, he who won 29 state should stepdown for he who won 15 states and the FCT?
Therefore, there should be rerun election. It looks like there are two conditions to be declared winner but they are actually three.
Re: 25% In FCT Is A Must by OredoPikin: 8:00am On Jul 18, 2023
femicyrus:

Tinubu won 25% in 29 federating units out of 37 units otherwise known as 36 states and FCT
Like i said
You logic or common sense is not needed here
U must follow what is written

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Re: 25% In FCT Is A Must by femicyrus(m): 8:03am On Jul 18, 2023
joseph032:
The president is the Governor of FCT(like State) and Control all it Affairs.

That's Why the 1977 Constitution was Ammended, that Statement "And FCT" wasn't there.

Not like the People there are Special But at least,
Let thier Governor( The President) Get 25% That's the Only way the Law is fair on Them
so the man who got 25% in FCT without the required 25% in 24.67units (16/37) should be president instead of the man with 29/37?

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Re: 25% In FCT Is A Must by Newton2024: 8:05am On Jul 18, 2023
pquaver:



If the Fg says we will pay the sum of 50 billion to the 36 states of federation and FCT as palliative...

Are u saying FG will give 36 states 50 billion to share among them and then give FCT abuja itself alone another 50 billion because the people there are hausa yoruba and igbo etc.. Is it that obidients don have critical reasoning or what? Ok tell me how money will disbursed above.. 36 +fct share 50 billion? Or 50 billion to states then another 50 billion to fct alone.. Mr philosophy math and English.. I am waiting

The correct expression should be:

Fg says we will pay the sum of 50 billion to the 36 states of federation including FCT as palliative...

Or

Fg says we will pay the sum of 50 billion to the 36 states of federation plus FCT as palliative...

In Logical Reasoning, and has a different meaning.


If I tell you: Mr Femi, buy us 24 loaves of bread and butter. Would you go and buy only bread without buying butter?

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Re: 25% In FCT Is A Must by OredoPikin: 8:08am On Jul 18, 2023
pquaver:



If the Fg says we will pay the sum of 50 billion to the 36 states of federation and FCT as palliative...

Are u saying FG will give 36 states 50 billion to share among them and then give FCT abuja itself alone another 50 billion because the people there are hausa yoruba and igbo etc.. Is it that obidients don have critical reasoning or what? Ok tell me how money will disbursed above.. 36 +fct share 50 billion? Or 50 billion to states then another 50 billion to fct alone.. Mr philosophy math and English.. I am waiting
Oga put ur logic and common sense aside
It is a law written with plain English and u must follow it

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Re: 25% In FCT Is A Must by OredoPikin: 8:10am On Jul 18, 2023
femicyrus:
so the man who got 25% in FCT without the required 25% in 24.67units (16/37) should be president instead of the man with 29/37?
No sir
None of them met the requirement to be President
The FCT and 2/3 is a must
If FCT was to be treated as a state, it wouldn't have been mentioned separately

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Re: 25% In FCT Is A Must by tesppidd: 8:10am On Jul 18, 2023
OredoPikin:

1. Tesppidd please help me to buy salt and Maggie when coming back from the market

Tesppidd went and bought only salt and said he has done what they ask him to do
A better analogy would be;

"Tesppidd go and buy me #100 Salt and Pepper"

Now am I buying #50 Salt and #50 Pepper
Or
Am I buying #100 Salt and #100 Pepper?

Based on that instruction, I would most definitely buy #50 Salt and #50 Pepper.
Re: 25% In FCT Is A Must by femicyrus(m): 8:10am On Jul 18, 2023
OredoPikin:

Like i said
You logic or common sense is not needed here
U must follow what is written
Obi did not wrote the constitution and he can't twist it to suit his abysmal score of 16/37 to upturn another candidate with 29/37.
Nigeria is not FCT but FCT IS A FEDERATING UNIT IN NIGERIA

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Re: 25% In FCT Is A Must by joseph032: 8:12am On Jul 18, 2023
That's Why there is provision for a rerun.
At that point the Highest Wins.

But INEC was wrong and just too quick to make the Call at midnight.
May God Help Nigeria
femicyrus:
so the man who got 25% in FCT without the required 25% in 24.67units (16/37) should be president instead of the man with 29/37?

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Re: 25% In FCT Is A Must by OredoPikin: 8:14am On Jul 18, 2023
tesppidd:
A better analogy would be;

"Tesppidd go and buy me #100 Salt and Pepper"

Now am I buying #50 Salt and #50 Pepper
Or
Am I buying #100 Salt and #100 Pepper?

Based on that instruction, I would most definitely buy #50 Salt and #50 Pepper.
And u must buy pepper and the salt😅
If u like buy #99 pepper and #1 salt, the 2 must be bought to meet the condition

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Re: 25% In FCT Is A Must by femicyrus(m): 8:18am On Jul 18, 2023
joseph032:
That's Why there is provision for a rerun.
At that point the Highest Wins.

But INEC was wrong and just too quick to make the Call at midnight.
May God Help Nigeria
Rerun!
If obi had 29/37 without FCT and tinubu got 16/37 with FCT, will you be here to advocate a rerun?

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Re: 25% In FCT Is A Must by tesppidd: 8:23am On Jul 18, 2023
OredoPikin:

And u must buy pepper and the salt😅
If u like buy #99 pepper and #1 salt, the 2 must be bought to meet the condition
Why are you confusing yourself? The salient factor in this case is the #100.

How you spend the #100 is the Koko here.

Just like the main case, the Koko is the 25 percent; not the 36 states, not the FCT.

Stop confusing yourself.

I maintain that nobody knows it all.

That clause in question has created unnecessary Ambiguity.

If the contemplation is that one must get 25 percent in the FCT, then it should be re-written to something like this;

25 percent in 2/3 of the 36 states including the FCT.
Re: 25% In FCT Is A Must by OredoPikin: 8:23am On Jul 18, 2023
femicyrus:

Obi did not wrote the constitution and he can't twist it to suit his abysmal score of 16/37 to upturn another candidate with 29/37.
Nigeria is not FCT but FCT IS A FEDERATING UNIT IN NIGERIA
🤣🤣🤣
U are the one twisting the constitution now oo
If the writers of the constitution wanted FCT to be treated as other states, they would have said 2/3 in 37 states of the federation
But they said 2/3 in 36states and the FCT
I repeat, 2/3 in 36states, and the FCT

Nor be Obi write the constitution as u said and the constitution was not written in Yoruba language for you guys interpretation alone. It is plain English my guy

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