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Re: Hardship: 'Borrow Atiku's Plan' - Deji Adeyanju Begs Tinubu by Burruchaga71(m): 10:51am On Jul 21, 2023
INVINCIBLECSP1:
I thought they said he has a plan to turn things around. Plans he never gave to Buhari? This people are clowns. Now, he has to borrow from his opponent. Was he not the one that built Lagos as you people claimedhuh Now he rigged himself in and is bereft of idea on how to pilot the plane. As long as Thiéfnubu stole Nigeria's mandate, he will be fooling around bereft of idea until he is kicked out to Gambia where he belongs. Nobody can mock GOD. Nobody!!!
Useless cocaine sniffing vagabond.
The DRUG LORD is from Guinea not Gambia
Thanks and remain blessed.
Re: Hardship: 'Borrow Atiku's Plan' - Deji Adeyanju Begs Tinubu by rhymesnoni(m): 11:01am On Jul 21, 2023
kingthreat:
The costs is supposed to drop especially that for logistics. I was expecting petrol costs to be like 300 to 400 naira las las.
We are watching, they said the refinery would kickstart in July/August but I doubt if this would come to reality. the only possible way out of this subsidy wahala is to have a functional government refinery, Kawai!
Re: Hardship: 'Borrow Atiku's Plan' - Deji Adeyanju Begs Tinubu by lexy2014: 11:34am On Jul 21, 2023
SmartyPants:
As I rightly observed, you are just a mocker and I'm here for serious persons. When you feel like being serious you can either use Google or approach me like a mature adult.
As I rightly asked...

Why do u feel mocked over a mockery that doesn't exist except in your consciousness? grin grin

Since u have your Google and you are informed, then u should be able to answer d simple question. Or is d answer not in your Google? Aren't u informed?

They have started repairs on the refineries? grin cheesy cheesy when did they start repairs on d refineries?
Re: Hardship: 'Borrow Atiku's Plan' - Deji Adeyanju Begs Tinubu by lexy2014: 11:35am On Jul 21, 2023
gabbytabby:
When we as children are used to handouts it takes a strong parent to say to its children go into the world and conquer. Initially it might be tough but with time the child becomes an adult and is so proud of what they have achieved by their own initiative.

We need to allow the Government to do what they should be doing ie providing essential services, infrastructure, providing an enabling environment for business and regulations. When they have successfully tackled this they can move to other non essentials.

Maybe 90 to 95% of Dangote self.

Name them and start fighting. Some of us are about doing and moving on not looking back and fighting .We are about building and repairing not destruction. Karma will do what it does. Not unless they continue to put a spanner in the works.

The four refineries are dead horses wise men do not flog dead horses.
Offpoint. That's not what I asked 6.

Is the course of action taken so far improving the lives of nigerians or is it making it worse?

How is the course of action at 75%? What is the 25% that is left to be done?

Since u say you "know the smugglers, the cabal and the economic saboteurs behind the subsidy", who are they? Can u pls name them?

What is the Dangote option? What happened to the four refineries option?
Re: Hardship: 'Borrow Atiku's Plan' - Deji Adeyanju Begs Tinubu by princeade86(m): 11:39am On Jul 21, 2023
Kukutenla:
I must agree though that Atiku since 2019 had a clear cut plan of how to wean the nation off subsidy unlike Baba Blu who never outlined a plan and kept running from interviews and debates while his supporters kept urging him on..... Here we are now
they call him all sort of names. They even call him arungun, akotileta because of politics.
Re: Hardship: 'Borrow Atiku's Plan' - Deji Adeyanju Begs Tinubu by ufotunang: 11:55am On Jul 21, 2023
Yes that is the solution sell those refeneries to the private sector or private individuals to operate and run. then those refineries will start working and fuel will be refined locally in nigeria and the price of fuel, disel, kerosene will be cheaper... simple
Is just that nigerians like to suffer you saw how Buhari APC government put nigerians in hardship for 8 years and nigerians still voted the same APC government into power again and what do you expect?
Re: Hardship: 'Borrow Atiku's Plan' - Deji Adeyanju Begs Tinubu by tabaralph: 11:57am On Jul 21, 2023
FuglyGurl:
https://twitter.com/adeyanjudeji/status/1681294059732881409?t=SBxC41EPyc-eqbTkMYsOpw&s=19[/quote]m
So it doesn’t occur to you that if Atiku won the election he would have sold the refineries to himself and cronies for peanut?
Re: Hardship: 'Borrow Atiku's Plan' - Deji Adeyanju Begs Tinubu by Slynation(m): 12:01pm On Jul 21, 2023
Ventura1:
Advisers left, right and center

Are the refineries 'gbanjo' products that can be sold at Onitsha market tomorrow, and collect the proceed immediately to spend?

Spend on what specifically? Thrown at the FX market to force rate down?
what it means is to privatised those refinary so it can be managed by the private sectors while the government will only regulate prices, we know that's one of the best decision any government can take...

But noOo they won't, because they know how beneficial it is to their bank accounts...!!
Re: Hardship: 'Borrow Atiku's Plan' - Deji Adeyanju Begs Tinubu by jaxxy(m): 12:28pm On Jul 21, 2023
Clueless temporary government
Re: Hardship: 'Borrow Atiku's Plan' - Deji Adeyanju Begs Tinubu by nitt: 12:30pm On Jul 21, 2023
We don reach the junction already cheesy

Quietly sipping my fura do nono with ice cubes

grin grin grin
Re: Hardship: 'Borrow Atiku's Plan' - Deji Adeyanju Begs Tinubu by OGHENAOGIE(m): 12:37pm On Jul 21, 2023
seborrhic:
The same scam sold 8 years on:Buhari is the best thing they claimed.He had also planned and dreamt of the presidency for 16 years.
When he finally achieved it,for 6 months he didn't have a clue on what to do.When pressure now pushed him to sit down and govern,he just started dishing out policies in reverse, because he couldn't give what he didn't have.
Tinubu they said is a first class technocrat,so good that all the best hands and best brains in governance have been picked by him.A Mobil oil executive of many years.This one had dreamt,paid and planned for the presidency ever since he completed his governorship.
He finally won the presidency and in just two months,he is looking like another big time scam they lied to gullible Nigerians about and used propaganda to push down the throats of the gullible.
Unlike what they sold,just like in Buhari's case, Tinubu is already showing he doesn't have the capacity to not only govern Nigeria,but the whole garbage of him being a technocrat and economic guru,was just what it was,pure bunkum!
if obi stayed as deputy to Atiku PDP would be in power today... Again elections is about numbers ist... Only PDP or APC could have won president... Obi emergence favored APC...
Re: Hardship: 'Borrow Atiku's Plan' - Deji Adeyanju Begs Tinubu by Yankee101: 1:06pm On Jul 21, 2023
Pdp may have been moving slow but it was surely moving nigeria forward with all its presidents

APC na back back

It was the simple reason we supported Atiku. They know how to bring in professionals like Ngozi to do the job. He had a plan that was workable. Mele Kyari collected over 3bn dollars from buhari to fix the refineries and gave Dangote billions of dollars in cheap exchange rate and equity still no refinery is working. If you sell it to oyinbo it will begin to work under a few months and you can still have subsidy by buying discounted from the refineries
Re: Hardship: 'Borrow Atiku's Plan' - Deji Adeyanju Begs Tinubu by omohayek: 3:02pm On Jul 21, 2023
SmartyPants:
If Tinubu wanted to sell the refineries, by now they would have started the bidding process. On the contrary, they have started repairs to one of the refineries indicating that government will continue to run them.
Having seen my share of privatization procedures across the globe while working in finance, I can tell you categorically that merely designing the bidding scheme for a privatization can easily take a year, let alone seeing it through to conclusion. The notion that a new government which hasn't even appointed its ministers can carry out a proper privatization in 2 months is bordering on science fiction.

You also missed an important part of Adeyanju's statement, which is that rightly or wrongly, they should bring back the fuel subsidy until the refineries are working.
No, I didn't miss this - it's just one more item of the many that I criticized as nonsensical. With what money would the fuel subsidy have been continued? Surely not that of the foreign lenders who have been plugging Nigeria's financial gap until now. And if the money was supposed to have come out of the federal government's IGR, what happens to all those outstanding foreign loans it was already struggling to pay interest on? Keep in mind that these burdensome loans were actually taken out in an environment of low global interest rates, so even if any lenders were willing to roll them over, it would only be at draconian interest rates at minimum 5% higher than before (and here we are talking of rates in USD, not Naira).

As for the idea that the fuel subsidy would only stick around "until the refineries are working", that old chestnut can only be sold to those who fail to understand that the fuel subsidy is the main reason why the refineries aren't working in the first place. It's hard to keep refineries in working order when their output is being sold for less than they cost to produce - where would the income for their maintenance come from?

Adeyanju is talking nonsense on stilts, attempting to score cheap political points by promising Nigerians that there is some magical formula for reform that involves pain without gain. One would think more Nigerians would recognize such empty promises for what they are by now, but apparently the desire to believe in economic miracles is simply too ingrained.
Re: Hardship: 'Borrow Atiku's Plan' - Deji Adeyanju Begs Tinubu by Georgejeez: 3:02pm On Jul 21, 2023
We saw the light and canvassed for the best choice but Southerners chose to sacrifice the future of the country on the Alter of "Southern Presidency".

I will never regret supporting the Unifier himself, Alhaji Abubakar Atiku (GCON).
Re: Hardship: 'Borrow Atiku's Plan' - Deji Adeyanju Begs Tinubu by Menclothing: 3:05pm On Jul 21, 2023
Who will buy the scrap iron refinery that is obsolete
Talk is cheap
Re: Hardship: 'Borrow Atiku's Plan' - Deji Adeyanju Begs Tinubu by mrvitalis(m): 3:10pm On Jul 21, 2023
seborrhic:
The same scam sold 8 years on:Buhari is the best thing they claimed.He had also planned and dreamt of the presidency for 16 years.
When he finally achieved it,for 6 months he didn't have a clue on what to do.When pressure now pushed him to sit down and govern,he just started dishing out policies in reverse, because he couldn't give what he didn't have.
Tinubu they said is a first class technocrat,so good that all the best hands and best brains in governance have been picked by him.A Mobil oil executive of many years.This one had dreamt,paid and planned for the presidency ever since he completed his governorship.
He finally won the presidency and in just two months,he is looking like another big time scam they lied to gullible Nigerians about and used propaganda to push down the throats of the gullible.
Unlike what they sold,just like in Buhari's case, Tinubu is already showing he doesn't have the capacity to not only govern Nigeria,but the whole garbage of him being a technocrat and economic guru,was just what it was,pure bunkum!
Mobil executive? Lmaooo tinubu was a mere auditor please... It's a junior level position please
Re: Hardship: 'Borrow Atiku's Plan' - Deji Adeyanju Begs Tinubu by gabicon: 3:15pm On Jul 21, 2023
FuglyGurl:
https://twitter.com/adeyanjudeji/status/1681294059732881409?t=SBxC41EPyc-eqbTkMYsOpw&s=19[/quote]We should sell junk and wait for the junk to miraculously start producing and then remove subsidy. It seems we don't fully understand our present situation, whoever buys our refineries will spend good money to revive what's left of it and sell finished product at profitable price. A sold refinery won't keep the price of fuel low, that's the lie they are selling. Nigeria is too poor a country to be subsiding energy cost, we should only subsidise what has a potential of paying back the subsidy in the long run.

I think the tinubu government should take 10% of its palliative budget and use it to help public transporters convert their cars to LPG, that can help carter for 200,000 public vehicles. LPG cost about 15k for 49 litres which will cover same distance as 40 litres of petrol which cost N22,720 (if one lives in Lagos).
Re: Hardship: 'Borrow Atiku's Plan' - Deji Adeyanju Begs Tinubu by SmartyPants(m): 3:22pm On Jul 21, 2023
omohayek:
Having seen my share of privatization procedures across the globe while working in finance, I can tell you categorically that merely designing the bidding scheme for a privatization can easily take a year, let alone seeing it through to conclusion. The notion that a new government which hasn't even appointed its ministers can carry out a proper privatization in 2 months is bordering on science fiction.


No, I didn't miss this - it's just one more item of the many that I criticized as nonsensical. With what money would the fuel subsidy have been continued? Surely not that of the foreign lenders who have been plugging Nigeria's financial gap until now. And if the money was supposed to have come out of the federal government's IGR, what happens to all those outstanding foreign loans it was already struggling to pay interest on? Keep in mind that these burdensome loans were actually taken out in an environment of low global interest rates, so even if any lenders were willing to roll them over, it would only be at draconian interest rates at minimum 5% higher than before (and here we are talking of rates in USD, not Naira).

As for the idea that the fuel subsidy would only stick around "until the refineries are working", that old chestnut can only be sold to those who fail to understand that the fuel subsidy is the main reason why the refineries aren't working in the first place. It's hard to keep refineries in working order when their output is being sold for less than they cost to produce - where would the income for their maintenance come from?

Adeyanju is talking nonsense on stilts, attempting to score cheap political points by promising Nigerians that there is some magical formula for reform that involves pain without gain. One would think more Nigerians would recognize such empty promises for what they are by now, but apparently the desire to believe in economic miracles is simply too ingrained.
You seem knowledgeable on this subject. Thanks for sharing.
Re: Hardship: 'Borrow Atiku's Plan' - Deji Adeyanju Begs Tinubu by yemi1504: 3:31pm On Jul 21, 2023
Rayban25:
Bold of you to assume that tinubu actually cares. He has rigged himself into loot as much as he can before he dies. Finish.
Abi
Re: Hardship: 'Borrow Atiku's Plan' - Deji Adeyanju Begs Tinubu by yemi1504: 3:39pm On Jul 21, 2023
Exceed15:
Desperation does not allow preparation. All BAT plan was how to take over power not how to lead Nigeria.
You can say that again!
Re: Hardship: 'Borrow Atiku's Plan' - Deji Adeyanju Begs Tinubu by yemi1504: 3:44pm On Jul 21, 2023
Yankee101:
Pdp may have been moving slow but it was surely moving nigeria forward with all its presidents

APC na back back

It was the simple reason we supported Atiku. They know how to bring in professionals like Ngozi to do the job. He had a plan that was workable. Mele Kyari collected over 3bn dollars from buhari to fix the refineries and gave Dangote billions of dollars in cheap exchange rate and equity still no refinery is working. If you sell it to oyinbo it will begin to work under a few months and you can still have subsidy by buying discounted from the refineries
Same reason I have supported PDP all these years despite their corruption. Citizens never suffered massively as obtains currently under this poverty party called APC.
Re: Hardship: 'Borrow Atiku's Plan' - Deji Adeyanju Begs Tinubu by yemi1504: 3:46pm On Jul 21, 2023
Georgejeez:
We saw the light and canvassed for the best choice but Southerners chose to sacrifice the future of the country on the Alter of "Southern Presidency".

I will never regret supporting the Unifier himself, Alhaji Abubakar Atiku (GCON).
Me too! I will never regret voting for Atiku in this year's election. He was the best candidate but our people refused to see that unfortunately sigh.
Re: Hardship: 'Borrow Atiku's Plan' - Deji Adeyanju Begs Tinubu by Vadese1: 5:01pm On Jul 21, 2023
On this one . I praise you . Tinubu is just a block head. He have nothing to give at this age
Re: Hardship: 'Borrow Atiku's Plan' - Deji Adeyanju Begs Tinubu by patrickcollins: 7:06pm On Jul 21, 2023
Fugazy2023:
Whoever think Tinubu doesn't know what he is doing and that he is clueless is definitely a fool. There are not 2 ways about it.
PBAT knows exactly what he is doing and he will get things right 100%.
Na just impatience be the problem of most of you clowns and na why most of you no dey last for bed
He got no plan, who removes subsidy with no palliative, since Dangote Refinery is coming onboard later this year as we were told, why not wait. Whether anyone supports Tinubu, Atiku or Obi we are in this shit together
Re: Hardship: 'Borrow Atiku's Plan' - Deji Adeyanju Begs Tinubu by Fugazy2023: 7:16pm On Jul 21, 2023
patrickcollins:
He got no plan, who removes subsidy with no palliative, since Dangote Refinery is coming onboard later this year as we were told, why not wait. Whether anyone supports Tinubu, Atiku or Obi we are in this shit together
He did not remove Subsidy. Buhari did not include provision for subsidy in the 2023 budget from july 2023. You don't expect Tinubu to add to what isn't in the budget or you want the country to borrow for fund subsidy?

About palliative, you people should relax. Palliative is coming. Don't rush him and let him have breathing space to do his job. He is less than 2 months in office. Your messiah Peter Obi can't do more than what Tinubu is doing and that is if he is intelligent and bold enough to even do it
Re: Hardship: 'Borrow Atiku's Plan' - Deji Adeyanju Begs Tinubu by AfonjaPriest: 7:59pm On Jul 21, 2023
BrickDevo:
What you fall to understand is that he would first recover all the money he spent for the campaign and election, until that is done, Nigeria will continue to regress.
Just like Sanwo-Olu is doing in Lagos. The bad roads are getting worse; the man has lost touch with reality.
Re: Hardship: 'Borrow Atiku's Plan' - Deji Adeyanju Begs Tinubu by Adgraced: 4:05pm On Jul 24, 2023
Zupay:
Tinubu is like a surgeon who is doing a complex surgery without the involvement of an anesthesiologist, convinced that it is for the good of the patient to endure the raw pain.
Wow! Well said!
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