₦airaland Forum

gidgiddy:
You should brush up on your Nigerian history. Even though Awolowo said that the West would secede if the East did, the same Awolowo gladly took 2ic position in Gowons regime despite him seeing all the killings of Igbos going on in Nigeria

This was a man who had no intention of seceding.l, he was just another politician looking for political position.

When the war broke out, the Nigerian Army headed for Enugu, the Biafran Army headed for Lagos

There's no way the Biafran Army could get to Lagos without going through the Midwest

But what did Ojukwu do when he invaded the Midwest? He declared it Republic of Midwest and the intention was to declare the West as Oduduwa Republic with Banjo as President

Ojukwu wanted everyone to be free of Northern domination.

Unfortunately, some people were far more interested in being eternal slaves of the Hausa/Fulani oligarchy, such as Awolowo

Such is life

Maybe they did not have philosophers, psychologists and behavior analysts in the Biafran officer corps, even Colonel Banjo should have advised them against such an adventure and given that they were attacked by civilians in Warri, Benin and etc they should have known what to expect in Ore, Ife Ilesa Akure Ibadan before reaching Lagos, it was a badly thought out expedition. No Northern soldiers anymore in Yoruba land by then and Awolowo took Ministerial post with the hope that the fracas would be settled, he bundled the Northern soldiers out of the west with only his mouth and told them the west would secede if the fracas is not settled only for the Biafrans to invade the western region! If you were Awolowo what would you have done?. Put yourself in his shoes. Awolowo had no issues with Gowon who released him from prison and offered him a role in government

helinues:
At least they make their region conducive to the extent of accommodating displaced people

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Ok,that was their developmental stride..


We have all seen how developed the rest 5 state of your region are...

Nice one.

lawani:
Maybe they did not have philosophers, psychologists and behavior analysts in the Biafran officer corps, even Colonel Banjo should have advised them against such an adventure and given that they were attacked by civilians in Warri, Benin and etc they should have known what to expect in Ore, Ife Ilesa Akure Ibadan before reaching Lagos, it was a badly thought out expedition. No Northern soldiers anymore in Yoruba land by then and Awolowo took Ministerial post with the hope that the fracas would be settled, he bundled the Northern soldiers out of the west with only his mouth and told them the west would secede if the fracas is not settled only for the Biafrans to invade the western region! If you were Awolowo what would you have done?. Put yourself in his shoes. Awolowo had no issues with Gowon who released him from prison and offered him a role in government

Please where was Gowon, murtala Mohammed, TY danjuma and other top northern military hierarchy operating from. Lagos or kaduna because there was no Abuja then

kettykings:
Please where was Gowon, murtala Mohammed, TY danjuma and other top northern military hierarchy operating from. Lagos or kaduna because there was no Abuja then

Only Gowon was in Lagos and he was preparing to flee when news got to him that the Biafrans had reached Ore. He was about to hop on an helicopter and flee to Kaduna before Alani Akinrinade rallied Yoruba men to go and confront the Liberation army at Ore

My own chip on the matter is that ojukwu made a very big mistake in invading Lagos, a mistake similar to that of Hitler invading Soviet Union. It wasn't really necessary and only allowed Nigerian troops more space to advance into the south Eastern region.
Secondly, he could have brokered a peace deal with Nigerian authorities to allow the five Eastern states and portharcourt to secede since it seems the others weren't keen on separation.

victory36:
My own chip on the matter is that ojukwu made a very big mistake in invading Lagos, a mistake similar to that of Hitler invading Soviet Union. It wasn't really necessary and only allowed Nigerian troops more space to advance into the south Eastern region.
Secondly, he could have brokered a peace deal with Nigerian authorities to allow the five Eastern states and portharcourt to secede since it seems the others weren't keen on separation.

It was not a Russian that was leading the German Wehrmacht nor was Moscow the capital of Germany neither were there many Germans formerly living in Russia. There was also no peace treaty between Western Nigeria and Biafra. They are therefore totally different scenarios and the only similarity is the miscalculation by both military leaders leading to a multi front war. Hitler too was more or less a military leader because dissent was not tolerated in Hitler's Germany.
Then wars don't end with treaties. Treaties are only signed to prevent or forestall war. The Igbos are still in full control of their land and can be able to develop it to a large extent by increasing IGR and their only challenge would be security, inflation and etc but like most other Nigerian states apart from Lagos, they have neglected to take that initiative

lawani:
It was not a Russian that was leading the German Wehrmacht nor was Moscow the capital of Germany neither were there many Germans formerly living in Russia. There was also no peace treaty between Western Nigeria and Biafra. They are therefore totally different scenarios and the only similarity is the miscalculation by both military leaders leading to a multi front war. Hitler too was more or less a military leader because dissent was not tolerated in Hitler's Germany.
Then wars don't end with treaties. Treaties are only signed to prevent or forestall war. The Igbos are still in full control of their land and can be able to develop it to a large extent by increasing IGR and their only challenge would be security, inflation and etc but like most other Nigerian states apart from Lagos, they have neglected to take that initiative

you clearly don't understand what I meant and why are you against Igbos seceding? It's not like we have oil or anything Nigeria badly wants. Since Igbos don't seem interested in Nigeria and they never were, it's only logical to let them go for peace to reign. When the Soviet Union collapsed, the independent states fared much better than in the union and the region is much richer. Imagine if the Baltic states remained in ussr today or South Korea had been forced to be in union with the north or Singapore being stuck with Malaysia. They wouldn't have achieved as much as they have now. Colonial borders is one of the reasons why Africa has been evolving agonizingly slowly due to civil wars, unrest and oppression. Unity is no longer unity when it's been forced.

victory36:
you clearly don't understand what I meant and why are you against Igbos seceding? It's not like we have oil or anything Nigeria badly wants. Since Igbos don't seem interested in Nigeria and they never were, it's only logical to let them go for peace to reign. When the Soviet Union collapsed, the independent states fared much better than in the union and the region is much richer. Imagine if the Baltic states remained in ussr today or South Korea had been forced to be in union with the north or Singapore being stuck with Malaysia. They wouldn't have achieved as much as they have now. Colonial borders is one of the reasons why Africa has been evolving agonizingly slowly due to civil wars, unrest and oppression. Unity is no longer unity when it's been forced.

Well nobody can stop Igbos or anybody else from seceding. It is a case of former prisoners that refused to escape even as the prison door is wide open because of prisoner mentality. Who can stop Igbos?.

lawani:
Well nobody can stop Igbos or anybody else from seceding. It is a case of former prisoners that refused to escape even as the prison door is wide open because of prisoner mentality. Who can stop Igbos?.

Nigerian government. Remember operation'python dance'? A reasonable government would have called for referendum.

victory36:
Nigerian government. Remember operation'python dance'? A reasonable government would have called for referendum.

If Igbos, Yorubas, Ijaw, Hausa or Kanuri leaders want their land to leave Nigeria and they take the right steps then nobody in this modern world can stop them but if they have prisoner mentality then nobody will be able to help them

gidgiddy:
You should brush up on your Nigerian history. Even though Awolowo said that the West would secede if the East did, the same Awolowo gladly took 2ic position in Gowons regime despite him seeing all the killings of Igbos going on in Nigeria

This was a man who had no intention of seceding.l, he was just another politician looking for political position.

When the war broke out, the Nigerian Army headed for Enugu, the Biafran Army headed for Lagos

There's no way the Biafran Army could get to Lagos without going through the Midwest

But what did Ojukwu do when he invaded the Midwest? He declared it Republic of Midwest and the intention was to declare the West as Oduduwa Republic with Banjo as President

Ojukwu wanted everyone to be free of Northern domination.

Unfortunately, some people were far more interested in being eternal slaves of the Hausa/Fulani oligarchy, such as Awolowo

Such is life

You can see something is wrong with you, how dare you declare Midwest independent or try to make Banjo president...

What concern you with Yoruba and Midwest?...
What sort of rubbish is this...
You're not going anywhere, the West and the North will never give you independence

Trying to leave Azikiwe one Nigeria is treason...

BentizilL:
You can see something is wrong with you, how dare you declare Midwest independent or try to make Banjo president...

What concern you with Yoruba and Midwest?...
What sort of rubbish is this...
You're not going anywhere, the West and the North will never give you independence

Trying to leave Azikiwe one Nigeria is treason...

Yeah, we know there are too many unity beggars who want their long failed 'one Nigeria' to last forever

helinues:
Which other points raised? Yoruba seceding from Nigeria... hahaha the day majority of Yoruba's have such mindset, that's the end of Nigeria, we no dey cheat beat on something we see as important

Okay...