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Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by MightySparrow: 9:30am On Jul 26, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Guy for what purpose will Jesus appear to any human after saying:

"By this all will know that you're my disciples if you have love among yourselves" John 13:35

Paul only need to know the group that's on the side of God that's why Jesus appeared to him and directed him to go and join them.

Today the sign Jesus talked about is obvious in the gathering of his group so there's no reason why Jesus should appear again now! smiley
You are still beating about the bush. If Jesus decides to show himself to anyone, would He take permission from your special group. Do you think for Him or His counsellor?
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:33am On Jul 26, 2023
MightySparrow:
You are still beating about the bush. If Jesus decides to show himself to anyone, would He take permission from your special group. Do you think for Him or His counsellor?
Well i may not be able to speak for his father the way he did but as for Christ Jesus i know what he will never ever do! 1Corinthians 2:16
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by MightySparrow:
MaxInDHouse:
Well i may not be able to speak for his father the way he did but as for Christ Jesus i know what he will never ever do! 1Corinthians 2:16
You don't seem to know Jesus. Or you have a different Jesus,

Jésù Oyingbo grin

Truth can be gleaned from what happens and what doesn't . This your community truth has blindfolded your reasoning.


The YouTube is replete with many Muslims is Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, even Mecca with similar experiences like Paul's and Cornelius.


In Nigeria here, Evangelist Kikelomo Ali, who runs an orphanage in Ibadan, has a similar experience in Mecca. One Jalingo, from Taraba state has the same experience. My own friend from Ikorodu, now working as a missionary for RCCG, a son of an Imam has similar experience. Apostles Ayo Babalola had similar experience.

I became wary of your teachings when my brother said God is no longer interested in affairs of man. I was just a rascal who wandered to a Deeper Life Campus Fellowship. After a simple prayer of faith from a student, I was healed.
My brother, your own Jehovah witnesses brother in unbelief, would want to convince me that healing of ten years old migraine was a joke because he wasn't the sufferer.
The same way you are deluded because you don't know the real Jesus of the Bible.


You know Jésù Oyingbo ọrẹ..
I advise you to come down from your horseback and learn from those of us that know Jesus and unfailing love and power.


Delusion Pro. Max.
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Aemmyjah(m): 10:17am On Jul 26, 2023
MightySparrow:
You have a way of digressing a threat, jumping up and down. Are people still seeing Jesus today?
Simple question.
Are people still seeing Jesus today, today, today?!!!!!!!!huh?!!!!
Talk about yourself and Papa
Have either or you seen Jesus?

Jesus that no man can see again
His mission on Earth has been completed and he's guiding his congregation l, uniting his followers, gathering the little flock (His bride or New Jerusalem) as they prepare the foundations of the new world
You can't even speak for yourself
Mention one person that has seen Jesus
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Aemmyjah(m): 10:20am On Jul 26, 2023
MightySparrow:
So, there are no good people now or Jesus is no more?
Your questions are highly ridiculous sir
How do you measure goodness?
Even terrorists and criminals claim to be good
What has people being good or bad got to do with Jesus?
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Aemmyjah(m): 10:21am On Jul 26, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Why would Jesus appear to Paul instead of his disciples to preach to Paul?

Because Paul was a good man (at heart) but has been poisoned by the Pharisaical school that taught the Jews to hate Christians with passion and the group hasn't gone far for anyone to see how great they will become when they're fulfilling God's purpose! Isaiah 2:2-4
Epic answer

Papa won't give him such reply
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by MightySparrow: 10:24am On Jul 26, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Your questions are highly ridiculous sir
How do you measure goodness?
Even terrorists and criminals claim to be good
What has people being good or bad got to do with Jesus?
Or you are ridiculous yourself, do you follow the argument?
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by MightySparrow:
Aemmyjah:
Talk about yourself and Papa
Have either or you seen Jesus?

Jesus that no man can see again
His mission on Earth has been completed and he's guiding his congregation l, uniting his followers, gathering the little flock (His bride or New Jerusalem) as they prepare the foundations of the new world
You can't even speak for yourself
Mention one person that has seen Jesus
You are as deluded as your GB.

Truth can been accessed by what happens and what doesn't, not sentiment or community truth. If your claims doesn't not tally with universal, timeless happenings you are wrong. You are not talking about the Bible Jesus. You are a liar Sir
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Aemmyjah(m): 10:32am On Jul 26, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Why would Jesus appear to Paul instead of his disciples to preach to Paul?

Because Paul was a good man (at heart) but has been poisoned by the Pharisaical school that taught the Jews to hate Christians with passion and the group hasn't gone far for anyone to see how great they will become when they're fulfilling God's purpose! Isaiah 2:2-4
See how Jesus 'met' him
Jesus did not do so with mildness but what we can call a counterattack
Paul was out on his mad mission
A bright flash from heaven shone on him and blinded him(he knew this one from God)
Then he heard a voice from heaven, someone of authority but shows he's not happy with him and when Paul aajee his name
He heard the very name of the person he was trying to obliterate by killing all the disciples, home and abroad- Jesus Christ

He realized that Jesus was no mere man or Jew that was long dead but a living being in heaven... He humbled himself and did God's will
Even those with Paul saw the phenomenon and mission was aborted

Today, someone will just wake up from sleep and claim that Jesus met him and be preaching nonsense and chopping people money and buying jet cos Jesus told him to by jet with money from the flock and build schools cos Jesus told him to with flock's money where flock children cannot attend or afford
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Aemmyjah(m): 10:53am On Jul 26, 2023
MightySparrow:
You are as deluded as your GB.

Truth can been accessed by what happens and what doesn't, sentiment or community truth. If you claim is doesn't not tally with universal, timeless happenings you are wrong. You are not talking about the Bible Jesus. You are a liar Sir
Which Jesus am I talking about?
Am I not speaking terms that are mentioned in the Bible
Abi I should be like Papa?
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Aemmyjah(m): 10:54am On Jul 26, 2023
MightySparrow:
Or you are ridiculous yourself, do you follow the argument?
How do you measure goodness?
Even Jesus Christ himself said someone should not describe him as good cos only God is
How do you measure it
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by MightySparrow: 11:03am On Jul 26, 2023
Aemmyjah:
How do you measure goodness?
Even Jesus Christ himself said someone should not describe him as good cos only God is
How do you measure it
Your brother suggested it. That because Paul was a good man. That was why Jesus appeared to him. Ask your brother. That is reason for my response. It is jw standard.

Jesus died for the ungodly.
That is why I always say you guys are deluded.
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by MightySparrow:
Aemmyjah:
Which Jesus am I talking about?
Am I not speaking terms that are mentioned in the Bible
Abi I should be like Papa?
Your own Jehovah witnesses Jesus. Not the Bible's own.
I think your own is Jésù Oyingbo or some other ones only known to JWs.

My own Jesus died for me though I did not merit it.
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:20am On Jul 26, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Epic answer
Papa won't give him such reply
The truth always torment his soul yet he will still come back asking for it.
Jesus appeared to Paul because the man has a clean conscience thinking he was rendering sacred service to God {John 16:2} that's what Stephen noticed in Paul before praying for his beloved brother who at the moment was lost in Judaism! Act 7:60 compare to Luke 23:34

Misinformed churchgoer thought everyone can have the same opportunity even though they never believe in the God of Abraham like our beloved brother Paul! smiley
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:25am On Jul 26, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Talk about yourself and Papa
Have either or you seen Jesus?
Jesus that no man can see again
His mission on Earth has been completed and he's guiding his congregation l, uniting his followers, gathering the little flock (His bride or New Jerusalem) as they prepare the foundations of the new world
You can't even speak for yourself
Mention one person that has seen Jesus
He knows what i'm saying is the truth but due to the fact that truth is not in him he finds it really hard savour the truth! wink
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Aemmyjah(m): 11:38am On Jul 26, 2023
MightySparrow:
Your own Jehovah witnesses Jesus. Not the Bible's own.
I think your own is Jésù Oyingbo or some other ones only known to JWs.

My own Jesus died for me though I did merit it.
Now I see you are not a Christian
Papa don mash ur head
None of us merited Jesus'death
That why it was called a gift
Undeserved kindness

Do you obey Jesus command at Matthew 28:18-20¿
You give loyalty and obidience to man and not Jesus
Wetin Papa go do if Jesus enter church? No be to ask military men to Carry am comot
Can you approach Papa to greet him?
You'll never forget that encounter grin
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Aemmyjah(m): 11:39am On Jul 26, 2023
MightySparrow:
Your brother suggested it. That because Paul was a good man. That was why Jesus appeared to him. Ask your brother. That is reason for my response. It is jw standard.

Jesus died for the ungodly.
That is why I always say you guys are deluded.
Who did Jesus not did for?
Christ died for us while we we sinners
Papa don do you something o
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by MightySparrow: 12:24pm On Jul 26, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Who did Jesus not did for?
Christ died for us while we we sinners
Papa don do you something o
There is a Jesus that died for all. There is a Jesus you made for yourselves. JWs Jesus different from others.

Matthew 24:23,26
[23]Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
[26]Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by MightySparrow: 12:26pm On Jul 26, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Now I see you are not a Christian
Papa don mash ur head
None of us merited Jesus'death
That why it was called a gift
Undeserved kindness

Do you obey Jesus command at Matthew 28:18-20¿
You give loyalty and obidience to man and not Jesus
Wetin Papa go do if Jesus enter church? No be to ask military men to Carry am comot
Can you approach Papa to greet him?
You'll never forget that encounter grin
Did Jesus report me to you that I don't obey Him?
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:38pm On Jul 26, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Who did Jesus not did for?
Christ died for us while we we sinners
Papa don do you something o
I don't argue with him once i see that he's a bit open for the blows i give him but when he is guarding i turn away, his immediately blood brother is a witness if he wants to be saved he already have God's kingdom close to him so it's left to him! wink
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by MightySparrow: 2:51pm On Jul 26, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
I don't argue with him once i see that he's a bit open for the blows i give him but when he is guarding i turn away, his immediately blood brother is a witness if he wants to be saved he already have God's kingdom close to him so it's left to him! wink
The kingdom of God is ever close to me. Not the delusion of JWS kingdom. It annoys when brainwashed old soldier is spewing ' gibberish'

You don't know the Christ of the Bible.
You are just like the proverbial hungry man of the book of Isaiah.




Isa.29.8 - It shall even be as when an hungry man dreameth, and, behold, he eateth; but he awaketh, and his soul is empty: or as when a thirsty man dreameth, and, behold, he drinketh; but he awaketh, and, behold, he is faint, and his soul hath appetite: so shall the multitude of all the nations be, that fight against mount Zion.



Jesus I know is not a chameleon.

My own Jesus is not in the pocket of anybody or any Pope or GB.

Heb.13.8 - Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

Be basking in your delusion Pro Max.

grin grin grin
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Aemmyjah(m): 5:02pm On Jul 26, 2023
MightySparrow:
There is a Jesus that died for all. There is a Jesus you made for yourselves. JWs Jesus different from others.

Matthew 24:23,26
[23]Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
[26]Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
Jesus death for me was a gift cos I did not deserve it. It was a kindness
Since your Jesus death was deserving, tell us where your Jesus came from cos it does not fit what the Bible really says
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by MightySparrow: 6:08pm On Jul 26, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Jesus death for me was a gift cos I did not deserve it. It was a kindness
Since your Jesus death was deserving, tell us where your Jesus came from cos it does not fit what the Bible really says
You sound like a comedian.

Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Emusan(m): 7:58pm On Jul 26, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Talk about yourself and Papa
Have either or you seen Jesus?
What is this one saying here?

Jesus that no man can see again
His mission on Earth has been completed and he's guiding his congregation, uniting his followers, gathering the little flock (His bride or New Jerusalem) as they prepare the foundations of the new world
So how do you know Jesus is the one guiding you when you can't see or hear from Him?

Jesus says in John 14:21 "Whoever has my commandments and observes them is the one who loves me. In turn, whoever loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and will clearly show myself to him.” - NWT

Are you saying Jesus is lying here?

You can't even speak for yourself
Mention one person that has seen Jesus
Have you fulfilled the above verse? cheesy grin
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Aemmyjah(m): 11:57pm On Jul 26, 2023
Emusan:
What is this one saying here?



So how do you know Jesus is the one guiding you when you can't see or hear from Him?

Jesus says in John 14:21 "Whoever has my commandments and observes them is the one who loves me. In turn, whoever loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and will clearly show myself to him.” - NWT

Are you saying Jesus is lying here?



Have you fulfilled the above verse? cheesy grin
Guidance can come in various forms/means
Could be direct
Could be indirect

Stop behaving like someone that does not want to use his thinking cap
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:38am On Jul 27, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Guidance can come in various forms/means
Could be direct
Could be indirect
Stop behaving like someone that does not want to use his thinking cap
He feels like seeing something right in front of him before believing (trusting) what he read in the Bible, is that not what the Israelites asked Aaron to do for them? Exodus 32:1
So instead of worship in spirit and truth {John 4:24} he feel Jesus must appear to him in person then instruct him not just agreeing to do what others are doing conscientiously after studying Jesus' words! smiley
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Emusan(m): 12:47pm On Jul 27, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Guidance can come in various forms/means
Could be direct
Could be indirect
So funny of you.

Jesus was talking about "CLEARLY show Himself" but you're talking about guidance.

Whether it's direct or indirect. Which one did your Watchtower experience? cheesy grin cheesy

Stop behaving like someone that does not want to use his thinking cap
If I'm not using my thinking cap, I won't be able to see where your translation boldly stated "CLEARLY SHOW HIMSELF" rather it's obvious that you're the one who doesn't make use of that cap.
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Emusan(m): 12:55pm On Jul 27, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
He feels like seeing something right in front of him before believing (trusting) what he read in the Bible
No I don't!

Jesus Himself made that statement and Jesus has proven it many times.

is that not what the Israelites asked Aaron to do for them? Exodus 32:1
Nobody asked Jesus before He made that statement and Jesus has been proven that statement to be true throughout the history.

It's left for you to ask yourself why Jesus hasn't CLEARLY SHOWN HIMSELF to you has He promised everyone WHO OBEYED AND LOVE HIM.

So instead of worship in spirit and truth {John 4:24} he feel Jesus must appear to him in person then instruct him not just agreeing to do what others are doing conscientiously after studying Jesus' words! smiley
Your assumptions not mine of what I experienced and what is in line with the scripture.

I didn't feel, I'm not like JWs who live base on assumption. I only believe and love Jesus and He REVEALED Himself to me.

Which confirms that what Jesus says in John 14:21 is true.

Just ask yourself why Jesus hasn't CLEARLY SHOWN HIMSELF to you as He promised since you claim to obey and love Him. cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Aemmyjah(m): 2:40pm On Jul 27, 2023
Emusan:
So funny of you.

Jesus was talking about "CLEARLY show Himself" but you're talking about guidance.

Whether it's direct or indirect. Which one did your Watchtower experience? cheesy grin cheesy



If I'm not using my thinking cap, I won't be able to see where your translation boldly stated "CLEARLY SHOW HIMSELF" rather it's obvious that you're the one who doesn't make use of that cap.
What about those that became Christian after Jesus ascension?
Did they see Jesus?
Did you see Jesus
De play
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:48pm On Jul 27, 2023
Aemmyjah:
What about those that became Christian after Jesus ascension?
Did they see Jesus?
Did you see Jesus
De play
He will never agree that the word REVEAL does not necessarily mean seeing something vividly so no amount of explanation can help him since he feels Jesus to make himself visible to him there's no need waisting my precious time with him, let him go and make use of his Jesus! wink
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Emusan(m): 3:45pm On Jul 27, 2023
Aemmyjah:
What about those that became Christian after Jesus ascension?
Did they see Jesus?
Did you see Jesus
De play
Jesus very own statement is "Whoever has my commandments and observes them is the one who loves me. In turn, whoever loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and will clearly show myself to him.” John 14:21

I'm not the one who made that statement Jesus did.

I'm not the one who translated that verse to simple English (as JWs always claim) Watchtower did.

Put on your thinking cap cheesy grin cheesy
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Aemmyjah(m): 3:47pm On Jul 27, 2023
Emusan:
Jesus very own statement is "Whoever has my commandments and observes them is the one who loves me. In turn, whoever loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and will clearly show myself to him.” John 14:21

I'm not the one who made that statement Jesus did.

I'm not the one who translated that verse to simple English (as JWs always claim) Watchtower did.

Put on your thinking cap cheesy grin cheesy
Again
Is it everyone who became Jesus disciples that saw him?
Simple English is too hard for you to comprehend?
Kpele
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