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Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Aemmyjah(m): 3:48pm On Jul 27, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
He will never agree that the word REVEAL does not necessarily mean seeing something vividly so no amount of explanation can help him since he feels Jesus to make himself visible to him there's no need waisting my precious time with him, let him go and make use of his Jesus! wink
Someone that they have stolen hi thinking cap will be arguing nonsense
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Emusan(m): 3:52pm On Jul 27, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
He will never agree that the word REVEAL does not necessarily mean seeing something vividly
Very funny, is that not the reason why your translation which is the most easy to read in the whole world put it in plain English? cheesy grin cheesy grin

Hear it again.

"Whoever has my commandments and observes them is the one who loves me. In turn, whoever loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and will clearly show myself to him.” John 14:21

Either Jesus is lying or NWT isn't accurate cheesy grin cheesy grin

so no amount of explanation can help him since he feels Jesus to make himself visible to him there's no need waisting my precious time with him, let him go and make use of his Jesus! wink
A very plain English doesn't need explanation.

Ask your last born to read that part for you and tell you what it means. Then you'll see you don't need any explanation.

You only need explanation when dubious interpretation is needed.

Besides, Jesus has revealed Himself to many from ages till today, so if there's any explanation changing the meaning of that verse is a fraudulent one.
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Emusan(m): 3:56pm On Jul 27, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Again
Is it everyone who became Jesus disciples that saw him?
Ask Jesus who made that statement.

Simple English is too hard for you to comprehend?
Kpele
Says the deluded one who doesn't know what simple English means "...will clearly show myself to him.” cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Aemmyjah(m): 9:26pm On Jul 27, 2023
Emusan:
Ask Jesus who made that statement.



Says the deluded one who doesn't know what simple English means "...will clearly show myself to him.” cheesy grin cheesy grin
You understand what Jesus meant but your foolishness is too deep
Same Jesus said his disciples should eat his flesh and drink his blood to gain ever lasting Life
Same Jesus said those that exercise faith in him will never die

Fools did not have a molecule of wisdom to comprehend anything
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Emusan(m): 10:10am On Jul 28, 2023
Aemmyjah:
You understand what Jesus meant but your foolishness is too deep
Even your own translation does, I know you lack simple comprehension.

Same Jesus said his disciples should eat his flesh and drink his blood to gain ever lasting Life
But the disciples didn't eat it when Jesus body was brought down from the cross.

But Jesus has been clearly shown Himself to people throughout the ages.

Same Jesus said those that exercise faith in him will never die
But He clarify the reason why He said they will never die.

Jesus said "...and will clearly show Myself to him" and he did many people can testify to this except JWs

Fools did not have a molecule of wisdom to comprehend anything
At least I'm not your NWT translation that put it this way "...and will clearly show Myself to him" cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

I know you feel pains because despite the lies of JWs being the only people obeying and love Jesus Christ, that verse has never been experienced by them.

Rest Oga Ade...
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Aemmyjah(m): 10:43am On Jul 28, 2023
Emusan:
But the disciples didn't eat it when Jesus body was brought down from the cross.
Maxindhouse
Pls com and rescue this boy
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:51am On Jul 28, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Maxindhouse
Pls com and rescue this boy
Ṣebí he sees his Jesus literally let him eat the flesh and drink the blood literally nah! cheesy
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Emusan(m): 1:20pm On Jul 28, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Maxindhouse
Pls com and rescue this boy
The same person I've put in ghost mode cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Emusan(m): 1:22pm On Jul 28, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Ṣebí he sees his Jesus literally let him eat the flesh and drink the blood literally nah! cheesy
This is how low you people can be.

Every statement of Jesus is true.

Jesus has REVEALED HIMSELF TO PEOPLE FROM AGES you can't deny that. cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Janosky: 1:45pm On Jul 28, 2023

Did Paul see Jesus Christ face to face?

Trinitarian clowns deluded & WAILING on NL.
grin grin

John 14:21 meaning reveal the truth & the way to everlasting life.
The truth and the way to everlasting life is what Paul learnt from Ananias and the other apostles he met after Jesus Christ directed Paul to Ananias.

Jesus Christ did not show himself face to face to Paul nor to the 7 congregations in the book of Revelation nah deluded Trinitarians he go show himself?

grin grin grin
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Janosky: 1:49pm On Jul 28, 2023
Emusan:
This is how low you people can be.

Every statement of Jesus is true.

Jesus has REVEALED HIMSELF TO PEOPLE FROM AGES you can't deny that. cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

"Every statement of Jesus is true"
Yes.

If Jesus Christ revealed himself to your Trinitarian mentors and to you , how come you all continue to Worship 3 Spirits?
grin grin

Oga, Revelation 3:12 & John 4:23-24, how many Spirits did Jesus Christ teach you he Worship?
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Janosky: 1:57pm On Jul 28, 2023
Emusan:
Even your own translation does, I know you lack simple comprehension.



But the disciples didn't eat it when Jesus body was brought down from the cross.

But Jesus has been clearly shown Himself to people throughout the ages.



But He clarify the reason why He said they will never die.

Jesus said "...and will clearly show Myself to him" and he did many people can testify to this except JWs



At least I'm not your NWT translation that put it this way "...and will clearly show Myself to him" cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

I know you feel pains because despite the lies of JWs being the only people obeying and love Jesus Christ, that verse has never been experienced by them.

Rest Oga Ade...
Oga,Go & rest jare.

Did Paul see Jesus Christ face to face?

Jesus Christ led Paul to Ananias & in turn met the apostles to learn "the teaching of the apostles."

Oga, stop deceiving yourself.
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Janosky: 2:06pm On Jul 28, 2023
MightySparrow:
You have a way of digressing a threat, jumping up and down. Are people still seeing Jesus today?
Simple question.
Are people still seeing Jesus today, today, today?!!!!!!!!huh?!!!!
1 Corinthians 15:45 NLT Jesus Christ is a spirit.
You are seeing demons not Jesus Christ.

The revelation of chapters 1 to 3 & Hebrews 1:1-2,is enough for the guidance and corrections of Jehovah's servants.
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Emusan(m): 2:17pm On Jul 28, 2023
Janosky:
[i] "Every statement of Jesus is true"
Yes.
Thank God you didn't deny this.

If Jesus Christ revealed himself to your Trinitarian mentors and to you , how come you all continue to Worship 3 Spirits?
grin grin
3 Spirits or you're just being deluded? grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

At least you didn't deny that Jesus didn't reveal Himself to people

Oga, Revelation 3:12 & John 4:23-24, how many Spirits did Jesus Christ teach you he Worship?
How many spirit did your own god of men tell you to worship? cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Emusan(m): 2:21pm On Jul 28, 2023
Janosky:
Oga,Go & rest jare.
Is it your rest? grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

Did Paul see Jesus Christ face to face?
The question should be, did Jesus reveal Himself to Paul?

Jesus Christ led Paul to Ananias & in turn met the apostles to learn "the teaching of the apostles."
How did Paul know that it was Jesus who lead him to Ananias if Jesus didn't reveal Himself to him?

You can see how deluded you are now.

Oga, stop deceiving yourself.
I won't stop deceiving myself until you proof where Jesus revealed Himself to any JWs according to John 14:21 cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Janosky: 2:27pm On Jul 28, 2023
Emusan:
Very funny, is that not the reason why your translation which is the most easy to read in the whole world put it in plain English? cheesy grin cheesy grin

Hear it again.

"Whoever has my commandments and observes them is the one who loves me. In turn, whoever loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and will clearly show myself to him.” John 14:21

Either Jesus is lying or NWT isn't accurate cheesy grin cheesy grin



A very plain English doesn't need explanation.

Ask your last born to read that part for you and tell you what it means. Then you'll see you don't need any explanation.

You only need explanation when dubious interpretation is needed.

Besides, Jesus has revealed Himself to many from ages till today, so if there's any explanation changing the meaning of that verse is a fraudulent one.
Paul did not see Jesus Christ.


Paul had a remarkable experience, (Paul became acquainted with Jesus Christ) on his way to Damascus.

(For example,I call you on phone & tell you my name & other details but you don't see me.
I can say I revealed myself to you. Have you forgotten Exodus 6:3? Did Moses see Jehovah @Exodus 6:3?)

Oga, STOP DECEIVING YOURSELF.
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Emusan(m): 2:30pm On Jul 28, 2023
Janosky:
1 Corinthians 15:45 NLT Jesus Christ is a spirit.
You are seeing demons not Jesus Christ.
Demons are spirit, so if people are seeing demons that are spirits why can't they see Jesus who is also a spirit?

Didn't the disciples see Jesus after resurrection or Jesus started to be spirit immediately after ascension? cheesy grin cheesy grin

The revelation of chapters 1 to 3 & Hebrews 1:1-2, is are enough for the guidance and corrections of Jehovah's servants.
You don't know more than Jesus who says "...and I will love him and will clearly show myself to him.”

So if Rev 1to 3 & Heb 1:1-2 are enough you're not the one who will say it but Jesus Himself and the last time I checked Jesus says it loud and clear cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Emusan(m): 2:32pm On Jul 28, 2023
Janosky:
Paul did not see Jesus Christ.
STOP DECEIVING YOURSELF.
You haven't answered the question, did Jesus reveal Himself to Paul?

Paul had a remarkable experience, (Paul became acquainted with Jesus Christ) on his way to Damascus.
Did Jesus reveal Himself to Paul?

Oga, STOP DECEIVING YOURSELF
I will when you stop too grin grin cheesy cheesy
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Emusan(m): 2:35pm On Jul 28, 2023
Janosky:
(For example,I call you on phone & tell you my name & other details but you don't see me.
That means you REVEALED YOURSELF TO ME

I can say I revealed myself to you.
Good! So answer without fooling around.

Did Jesus reveal Himself to Paul?

Have you forgotten Exodus 6:3? Did Moses see Jehovah @Exodus 6:3?
I didn't!

God revealed Himself to Moses CLEARLY.

WHICH MEANS NO ONE WILL DISPUTE THAT REVELATION INCLUDING THE PERSON WHO RECEIVED IT.
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:49pm On Jul 28, 2023
Janosky:
Paul did not see Jesus Christ.
Paul had a remarkable experience, (Paul became acquainted with Jesus Christ) on his way to Damascus. (For example,I call you on phone & tell you my name & other details but you don't see me. I can say I revealed myself to you. Have you forgotten Exodus 6:3? Did Moses see Jehovah @Exodus 6:3?)
Oga, STOP DECEIVING YOURSELF.
By now you should know Emusan is no stable in anything he says all he wants is arguing with JWs. He has agreed that Jesus revealing himself is not about seeing Jesus literally but he just want to continue arguing it's like he derives pleasure exchanging words with JWs that's why i ignore him. If he's truly a believer let him go and defend his faith before atheists and agnostics! wink
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Janosky: 2:49pm On Jul 28, 2023
Emusan:
Demons are spirit, so if people are seeing demons that are spirits why can't they see Jesus who is also a spirit?
Is Jesus a demon?
No !.

Jesus Christ no dey show him face to anybody again.


Emusan:
Didn't the disciples see Jesus after resurrection or Jesus started to be spirit immediately after ascension? cheesy grin
Did Paul see Jesus Christ face to face?

Did every believer see the resurrected Jesus Christ face to face?

Oga,Why do you love to DECEIVE YOURSELF?

Emusan:
You don't know more than Jesus who says "...and I will love him and will clearly show myself to him.”

So if Rev 1to 3 & Heb 1:1-2 are enough you're not the one who will say it but Jesus Himself and the last time I checked Jesus says it loud and clear cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
Oga, you don't know Jesus Christ.

John 20:29,NLT
Then Jesus told him, “You believe because you have seen me. Blessed are those who believe without seeing me"
Jesus told me "happy are those who do not see me but believe in me "

Faithless miscreants grin grin
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:53pm On Jul 28, 2023
Janosky:
Is Jesus a demon?
No !. Jesus Christ no dey show him face to anybody again.

Did Paul see Jesus Christ face to face?
Did every believer see the resurrected Jesus Christ face to face?
Oga,Why do you love to DECEIVE YOURSELF?

Oga, you don't know Jesus Christ.
John 20:29, Jesus told me "happy are those who do not see me but believe "
Emusan no go gri no matter the scriptures you cite he's happy exchanging words with JWs that's all! wink
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Janosky: 3:05pm On Jul 28, 2023
MightySparrow:
You are still beating about the bush. If Jesus decides to show himself to anyone, would He take permission from your special group. Do you think for Him or His counsellor?
Is Jesus Christ teaching Mighty Sparrow @ John 20:29?
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Emusan(m): 3:07pm On Jul 28, 2023
Janosky:
Is Jesus a demon?
No !.

Jesus Christ no dey show him face to anybody again.
But He did after resurrection. cheesy cheesy

Did Paul see Jesus Christ face to face?
Did Jesus reveal Himself to Paul?

Did every believer see the resurrected Jesus Christ face to face?
But the Ones Jesus revealed Himself to saw His face.

Oga,Why do you love to DECEIVE YOURSELF?
You're the one deceiving yourself.

Oga, you don't know Jesus Christ.

John 20:29,NLT
Then Jesus told him, “You believe because you have seen me. Blessed are those who believe without seeing me"
Jesus told me "happy are those who do not see me but believe in me "
This verse supported my and that Jesus actually revealed Himself to people.

Yes some people won't see Jesus before BELIEVING likewise no verse that says Jesus won't reveal Himself to people.

Faithless miscreants grin grin
Worshiper of 8 lying old men grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Emusan(m): 3:09pm On Jul 28, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Emusan no go gri no matter the scriptures you cite he's happy exchanging words with JWs that's all! wink
He is the one who cited this scripture John 20:29,NLT "Then Jesus told him, “You believe because you have seen me. Blessed are those who believe without seeing me" Jesus told me "happy are those who do not see me but believe in me"

Did Jesus reveal Himself to people?
The answer is yes!

So what's your point Oga Ade? grin cheesy grin cheesy
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Emusan(m): 3:15pm On Jul 28, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
By now you should know Emusan is no stable in anything he says all he wants is arguing with JWs.
Mr stable stable grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

He has agreed that Jesus revealing himself is not about seeing Jesus literally!
Just imagine this lying machine.

So do you agree that Jesus revealed Himself to people?

but he just want to continue arguing it's like he derives pleasure exchanging words with JWs that's why i ignore him.
As that will make you happy grin cheesy grin cheesy

If he's truly a believer let him go and defend his faith before atheists and agnostics! wink
I've been doing that before you know there's a platform called Nairaland. grin cheesy grin
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Janosky: 3:26pm On Jul 28, 2023
MightySparrow:
You don't seem to know Jesus. Or you have a different Jesus,

Jésù Oyingbo grin

Truth can be gleaned from what happens and what doesn't . This your community truth has blindfolded your reasoning.


The YouTube is replete with many Muslims is Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, even Mecca with similar experiences like Paul's and Cornelius.


In Nigeria here, Evangelist Kikelomo Ali, who runs an orphanage in Ibadan, has a similar experience in Mecca. One Jalingo, from Taraba state has the same experience. My own friend from Ikorodu, now working as a missionary for RCCG, a son of an Imam has similar experience. Apostles Ayo Babalola had similar experience.
Either you stick with John 20:29, the teaching of Jesus Christ or delude yourself with the fables of imperfect sinners like you.

MightySparrow:
I became wary of your teachings when my brother said God is no longer interested in affairs of man.
1 John 2:15-17 , why would God be interested in the affairs of this evil world that will pass away?
Jehovah and His Son are only interested in the salvation of God's faithful servants, 2 Peter 3:13.

2 Timothy 3:1 is staring you in the face,After all the prodding of your gods of men DECEIVING you to fast for the "God fearing leaders".
Is a litre of petrol is climbing closer to N700 per litre? grin
grin grin
MightySparrow:
I was just a rascal who wandered to a Deeper Life Campus Fellowship. After a simple prayer of faith from a student, I was healed.
My brother, your own Jehovah witnesses brother in unbelief, would want to convince me that healing of ten years old migraine was a joke because he wasn't the sufferer.
That king Pharaoh's magicians performed a miracle in his palace makes them approved of God?
Matthew 7:21-23, Does Jesus teaching on miracle workers mean anything to you?
MightySparrow:
The same way you are deluded because you don't know the real Jesus of the Bible.


You know Jésù Oyingbo ọrẹ..
I advise you to come down from your horseback and learn from those of us that know Jesus and unfailing love and power.


Delusion Pro. Max.
Unbelievers go to extremes to express their delusion for fables of men & disdain for Jesus teaching of John 20:29.
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Janosky: 3:35pm On Jul 28, 2023
MightySparrow:
You are as deluded as your GB.

Truth can been accessed by what happens and what doesn't, not sentiment or community truth. If your claims doesn't not tally with universal, timeless happenings you are wrong. You are not talking about the Bible Jesus. You are a liar Sir
Sifia pains grin grin
John 20:29 is in your Bible. Deal with it
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by MightySparrow: 5:04pm On Jul 28, 2023
Janosky:
1 Corinthians 15:45 NLT Jesus Christ is a spirit.
You are seeing demons not Jesus Christ.

The revelation of chapters 1 to 3 & Hebrews 1:1-2,is enough for the guidance and corrections of Jehovah's servants.
Can you figure out why I don't respond to your posts?

You don't make sense.
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Aemmyjah(m): 2:20am On Aug 02, 2023
Emusan:
Even your own translation does, I know you lack simple comprehension.



But the disciples didn't eat it when Jesus body was brought down from the cross.

But Jesus has been clearly shown Himself to people throughout the ages.



But He clarify the reason why He said they will never die.

Jesus said "...and will clearly show Myself to him" and he did many people can testify to this except JWs



At least I'm not your NWT translation that put it this way "...and will clearly show Myself to him" cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

I know you feel pains because despite the lies of JWs being the only people obeying and love Jesus Christ, that verse has never been experienced by them.

Rest Oga Ade...
ON the highlighted, I don't deny that Jesus has not been revealed to some persons while here in earth as to physical appearance, is it everyone that saw him? Simple question
Who is feeling pains? U de zuzu grin grin grin

Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:04am On Aug 02, 2023
Aemmyjah:
ON the highlighted, I don't deny that Jesus has not been revealed to some persons while here in earth as to physical appearance, is it everyone that saw him? Simple question
Who is feeling pains? U de zuzu grin grin grin
Jesus has revealed himself to JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES today that's why we can confidently say he is the archangel Michael but if anyone wants to prove they know Jesus better than Jehovah's Witnesses it simply means Jesus has revealed himself to them too so let them prove it not by words of mouth but by doing the WORK Jesus handed over to those he revealed himself to! James 2:18-26
Re: Your First Encounter With Jesus Christ by Emusan(m): 12:05pm On Aug 02, 2023
Aemmyjah:
ON the highlighted, I don't deny that Jesus has not been revealed to some persons while here in earth as to physical appearance
Did Jesus not reveal Himself to people after Resurrection?

is it everyone that saw him? Simple question
Yes!

So have you seen Him or any JWs seen Him as He promised?

Who is feeling pains? U de zuzu grin grin grin
Definitely you are!

So which definition did you go with from this dictionary? cheesy grin cheesy grin grin

Notice that the second one goes against Watchtower claim.
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