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Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 8:29pm On Aug 02, 2023
SIRTee15:
Apostolic fathers were early church leaders who personally met and knew the 12 apostles of Jesus.
Irenaeus was born in 130AD, he couldn't have met any of them.
All what you just said comes from iraneus, if he was born in 130AD, how did he know?
Surely he must have read it somewhere?
Post another evidence apart from iraneus that was not born then.

Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 8:31pm On Aug 02, 2023
SIRTee15:
Now answer my question, was polycarp, Clement and Ignatius Christian leaders in the 1st century. Yes or No.
NO, they were not, bring out your sources.

Re: ******************************** by SIRTee15: 8:43pm On Aug 02, 2023
Maynman:
All what you just said comes from iraneus, if he was born in 130AD, how did he know?
Surely he must have read it somewhere?
Post another evidence apart from iraneus that was not born then.
Do u understand what's called chian of narration.
Irenaeus was a student of Polycarp.
Polycarp in his letter mentioned Ignatius.
Tertullian was another Christian writer who mentioned apostolic fathers.
Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 8:47pm On Aug 02, 2023
SIRTee15:
Do u understand what's called chian of narration.
Irenaeus was a student of Polycarp.
Polycarp in his letter mentioned Ignatius.
Tertullian was another Christian writer who mentioned apostolic fathers.
Thought you said “ he couldn't have met any of them”
Now he is a student, well Irenaeus is a Liar, polycarp never met john.

Which fraudulent letter?

What century was Tertulian?
Hope you know Tertulian was a MONTANIST.

Re: ******************************** by SIRTee15: 8:54pm On Aug 02, 2023
Maynman:
Thought you said “ he couldn't have met any of them”
Now he is a student, well Irenaeus is a Liar, polycarp never met john.

Which fraudulent letter?

What century was Tertulian?
Hope you know Tertulian was a MONTANIST.
Irenaeus didn't meet any of the 12 apostles, that's what I meant.
Irenaeus was a student of Polycarp. He would know if Polycarp met John the apostle.
Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 8:56pm On Aug 02, 2023
SIRTee15:
Irenaeus didn't meet any of the 12 apostles, that's what I meant.
Irenaeus was a student of Polycarp. He would know if Polycarp met John the apostle.
Which john did he meet?

Re: ******************************** by SIRTee15:
Maynman:
NO, they were not, bring out your sources.
This is polycarp letter to the Philippians.

Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 8:57pm On Aug 02, 2023
[quote author=SIRTee15 post=124839441][/quote]Dubious sources.

Polycarp never meat john.

John didn’t write any gospel, all the gospel are written by UNKNOWN!!!

Re: ******************************** by SIRTee15: 9:02pm On Aug 02, 2023
Maynman:
Which john did he meet?
Irenaeus couldn't have met any of the 12 disciples because they were all dead by the time he was born.
That's what I meant, thus cannot be qualified to be called an apostolic father.

Irenaeus was a student of Polycarp who died 155 AD.
Re: ******************************** by SIRTee15: 9:03pm On Aug 02, 2023
Maynman:
Dubious sources.

Polycarp never meat john.

John didn’t write any gospel, all the gospel are written by UNKNOWN!!!
Good, we done here. What u doing now is denying evidence.
I leave u to your folly or fantasy.
Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 9:04pm On Aug 02, 2023
SIRTee15:
Irenaeus couldn't have met any of the 12 disciples because they were all dead by the time he was born.
That's what I meant, thus cannot be qualified to be called an apostolic father.

Irenaeus was a student of Polycarp who died 155 AD.
Iranaeus couldn’t have said Polycarp was a student of john.
Even in the purported book written by polycarp, he never mentioned meeting john.
I asked you, who made this people “apostolic fathers”?

And the gospel of john was written by an unknown person, there is no JOHN.

There was no apostles to meet!

Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 9:05pm On Aug 02, 2023
SIRTee15:
Good, we done here. What u doing now is denying evidence.
I leave u to your folly or fantasy.
A book written by an unknown person is the evidence?
Polycarp never meant any john.
Iraeneus is a liar.


You must be a dullard like yahweh not to see this glaring.

Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 9:15pm On Aug 02, 2023
SIRTee15:
Good, we done here. What u doing now is denying evidence.
This is the evidence for your savior cheesy
https://timsteppingout./2015/10/01/early-christianity-irenaeus-and-his-web-of-lies/

Re: ******************************** by SIRTee15:
Maynman:
This is the evidence for your savior cheesy
https://timsteppingout./2015/10/01/early-christianity-irenaeus-and-his-web-of-lies/
Have u checked out Tertullian and his own web of lies. He did more work on early church writings than irenaeus.
Maybe that will help u feel better.
Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 9:36pm On Aug 02, 2023
SIRTee15:
Have checked Tertullian and his own web of lies. He did more work on early church writings than irenaeus.
Maybe that will help u feel better.
Tertulian is a Montanist.

Of the many gospels written in antiquity, exactly four gospels came to be accepted as part of the New Testament, or canonical. An insistence upon a canonical four, and no others, was a central theme of Irenaeus of Lyon.

He claimed only four in number; according to Romer, "like the four zones of the world, the four winds, the four divisions of man’s estate, and the four forms of the first living creatures – the lion of Mark, the calf of Luke, the man of Matthew, the eagle of John."

The names of the authors of the gospels were assigned to the works by the early church fathers in the 2nd century AD; none of the writers signed their work as they remained unknown.

Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 9:37pm On Aug 02, 2023
SIRTee15:
Have checked Tertullian and his own web of lies. He did more work on early church writings than irenaeus.
Maybe that will help u feel better.
Tertulian also formed up the word “trinity”, a constantine concept.

Look up helios christos, you are worshipping a Roman Parody!

Re: ******************************** by SIRTee15: 10:29pm On Aug 02, 2023
Maynman:
Tertulian also formed up the word “trinity”, a constantine concept.

Look up helios christos, you are worshipping a Roman Parody!
Today I'm curing u of ignorance regarding 1st century Christianity.
Next time I will take u up on other centuries
Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 10:30pm On Aug 02, 2023
SIRTee15:
Today I'm curing u of ignorance regarding 1st century Christianity.
Next time I will take u up on other centuries
There was no “Christianity” in first century.


I hope you have learnt where the apostolic fathers come from.

Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 10:33pm On Aug 02, 2023
SIRTee15:
Today I'm curing u of ignorance regarding 1st century Christianity.
Next time I will take u up on other centuries
Haven’t i told you to look up jewish christians?

Save yourself from ireneaus bondage.

Re: ******************************** by SIRTee15: 10:38pm On Aug 02, 2023
Maynman:
There was no “Christianity” in first century.


I hope you have learnt where the apostolic fathers come from.
So another apostolic father was evodius of Antioch.
He was the 2nd bishop of Antioch and actually coined the name Christianity. He was well known to Peter himself.
He died 69 AD and was succeeded by Ignatius.
Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 10:40pm On Aug 02, 2023
SIRTee15:
So another apostolic father was evodius of Antioch.
He was the 2nd bishop of Antioch and actually coined the name Christianity. He was well known to Peter himself.
He died 69 AD and was succeeded by Ignatius.
According to who? Hope it’s not Eusebius the master forger cheesy

Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 10:43pm On Aug 02, 2023
SIRTee15:
So another apostolic father was evodius of Antioch.
He was the 2nd bishop of Antioch and actually coined the name Christianity. He was well known to Peter himself.
He died 69 AD and was succeeded by Ignatius.
Have you looked up “jewish christians” yet?

Re: ******************************** by SIRTee15:
Maynman:
Have you looked up “jewish christians” yet?
Ignatius mentioned Evodius in his writings.
Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 10:48pm On Aug 02, 2023
SIRTee15:
Ignatius mentioned him in his writings.
And who is this ignatius, mention his writings.

One of iraeneus ghost writers.
Re: ******************************** by SIRTee15: 10:58pm On Aug 02, 2023
Another apostolic father is Papias of herapolis. Known to John and other apostles.
He lived 60 AD to 130AD.
His works the exposition of the Sayings of the Lord is an important early source on Christian oral tradition and especially on the origins of the canonical Gospels.
Papias confirmed Mark wrote the gospel according to him as dictated by Peter.

Here is what he wrote about gospel of Matthew.

Therefore Matthew put the logia in an ordered arrangement in the Hebrew language, but each person interpreted them as best he could.

The writings of papais
https://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf201.iii.viii.xxxix.html
Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 10:59pm On Aug 02, 2023
https://www.bible.ca/history-ignatius-forgeries-250AD.htm
Everything you have been saying since have been FORGERY.

Look up “jewish christians”

Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 11:00pm On Aug 02, 2023
SIRTee15:
Another apostolic father is Papias of herapolis. Known to John and other apostles.
He lived 60 AD to 130AD.
His works the exposition of the Sayings of the Lord is an important early source on Christian oral tradition and especially on the origins of the canonical Gospels.
Papias confirmed Mark wrote the gospel according to him as dictated by Peter.

Here is what he wrote about gospel of Matthew.

Therefore Matthew put the logia in an ordered arrangement in the Hebrew language, but each person interpreted them as best he could.

The writings of papais
https://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf201.iii.viii.xxxix.html
Free yourself from the bondage of ireneaus.

Look up “jewish christians”.

Re: ******************************** by SIRTee15: 11:04pm On Aug 02, 2023
Maynman:
Free yourself from the bondage of ireneaus.

Look up “jewish christians”.
But u didn't see this.
Irenaeus is really tormenting u tonight.

Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 11:06pm On Aug 02, 2023
SIRTee15:
Another apostolic father is Papias of herapolis. Known to John and other apostles.
Don’t you get it?
Iesus chrestus doesn’t exist, there is no John or apostles.


The 12 apostles represents the cosmic signs.
When jesus died in the story, the weather went dark.

Look up helios christos.
Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 11:08pm On Aug 02, 2023
SIRTee15:
But u didn't see this.
Irenaeus is really tormenting u tonight.
What did you underline?
What does it mean?

Iraeneus has really put you in bondage.
Re: ******************************** by SIRTee15: 11:11pm On Aug 02, 2023
Maynman:
What did you underline?
What does it mean?

Iraeneus has really put you in bondage.
That was papias own words not irenaeus.
Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 11:14pm On Aug 02, 2023
SIRTee15:
That was papias own words not irenaeus.
No Illiterate, the person was explaining the book.
Number 1 said the book were said to be written by papias according to iranaeus
Number 2 said in the book, papias was not even a eye witness, he never met the apostles.
He never met the apostles he said it himself, he got to know from a friend of a friend according to the book 😂😂
Read!!!

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