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Emusan:
Did Jesus not reveal Himself to people after Resurrection?



Yes!

So have you seen Him or any JWs seen Him as He promised?



Definitely you are!

So which definition did you go with from this dictionary?
Notice that the second one goes against Watchtower claim.

Your head de touch
Go offline and sleep abeg
How many people in this forum has seen Jesus?
De cap nonsense

Aemmyjah:
Your head de touch
Go offline and sleep abeg
How many people in this forum has seen Jesus? De cap nonsense

His type are pagans who feels it's impossible to believe (trust) in what they can't see {John 20:29} so when you're faithful and discreet in what you do they wonder how possible since that's not their own way billions are going through that road {Matthew 7:13-14} their opinion is seeing God before obeying Him until they see something supernatural they feel it's stupid having the same line of thought with their fellow human because they're not honest so they feel everyone around them is not honest too but when they see a supernatural being then they'll be submissive!

Aemmyjah:
Your head de touch
Go offline and sleep abeg

And you couldn't address my post.

But see how you're so toxic in your responses, you lack home training.

How many people in this forum has seen Jesus?

I have and many people have shared their testimony too.

The question is, have you or any JWs do according to Jesus own promise in John 4:21?

De cap nonsense

This is what to say when you don't have scripture to support your claim.

MaxInDHouse:
His type are pagans who feels it's impossible to believe (trust) in what they can't see {John 20:29}

I believe (trust) in Jesus before He REVEALED HIMSELF to me. I didn't even pray that if Jesus didn't reveal Himself to me I won't believe in Him but He did. I understand when you lot can't fulfill certain part of the scripture you begin to twist it. Jesus stated it that "...and will clearly show Myself to him"

so when you're faithful and discreet in what you do they wonder how possible since that's not their own way billions are going through that road {Matthew 7:13-14} their opinion is seeing God before obeying Him

Lying liar JWs.

I'm quoting the very word of Jesus who He promised THOSE WHO OBEYED AND LOVED HIM.

This is what Jesus has done after His resurrection and continue to do.

Show me where you read it on this forum that I say I won't believe in Jesus if He didn't reveal Himself to me.

until they see something supernatural they feel it's stupid having the same line of thought with their fellow human because they're not honest so they feel everyone around them is not honest too but when they see a supernatural being then they'll be submissive!

Just your own figment of imagination.

Here it is again: "Whoever has my commandments and observes them is the one who loves me. In turn, whoever loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and will clearly show myself to him.” John 14:21

Jesus promised this by Himself, I know you don't have testimony of this in your midst despite all the lies of we are the only one who OBEYED AND LOVED Jesus, reason why you're all furious about this verse.

Emusan:
And you couldn't address my post.

But see how you're so toxic in your responses, you lack home training.



I have and many people have shared their testimony too.

The question is, have you or any JWs do according to Jesus own promise in John 4:21?



This is what to say when you don't have scripture to support your claim.

Ok, on the highlighted, clap hand for yourself
Read 1Timothy 6:16

Keep dreaming

Aemmyjah:
Ok, on the highlighted, clap hand for yourself

Thanks to Jesus Himself for that statement in John 14:21

Read 1Timothy 6:16

"He alone can never die, and he lives in light so brilliant that no human can approach him. No human eye has ever seen him, nor ever will. All honor and power to him forever! Amen."

Yet you claimed Jesus isn't God

Besides, has human eyes never saw Jesus?

Anyways, I know you lack comprehension, no one can see God but when God decided to REVEAL HIMSELF to Moses He did it in His own way. So if Jesus Christ promised to REVEAL HIMSELF TO THOSE WHO OBEYED AND LOVED HIM surely, He knows how to do it.

Keep dreaming

because you haven't experienced it.

The experience is so awesome that every believer should desire it but as your organisation has blackened you people's mind to the truth of the scripture, you'll never understand it.

Emusan:
Thanks to Jesus Himself for that statement in John 14:21



"He alone can never die, and he lives in light so brilliant that no human can approach him. No human eye has ever seen him, [b]nor ever will. All honor and power to him forever! Amen."[/b]

Yet you claimed Jesus isn't God

Besides, has human eyes never saw Jesus?

Anyways, I know you lack comprehension, no one can see God but when God decided to REVEAL HIMSELF to Moses He did it in His own way. So if Jesus Christ promised to REVEAL HIMSELF TO THOSE WHO OBEYED AND LOVED HIM surely, He knows how to do it.



because you haven't experienced it.

The experience is so awesome that every believer should desire it but as your organisation has blackened you people's mind to the truth of the scripture, you'll never understand it.

Jesus (in his glorified state) lives in a brilliant light that no man has ever seen him (in such state before he came down to earth as human) and never will (in such state)
But na your eye see am shebi
Jesus never said he is God
He prayed to God
He ascended to God
He sat down at the right hand of God
He says he is the son of God
God approved him at his baptism
He came to do God's will
He said no man should address him as good except one, God
He said that all he taught was not from him but from God

The Bible says that the Head (authority) of the woman is the Man, the Head of the Man is the Christ, the Head of the Christ is God... According to amusan, Christ is God. Na your eye see God when the Bible say no man has seen God at any time except the Son who explained him

Aemmyjah:
Jesus (in his glorified state) lives in a brilliant light that no man has ever seen him (in such state before he came down to earth as human) and never will (in such state)

Incoherent statement
Did you even read what you wrote here?

But na your eye see am shebi

Jesus revealed Himself to me John 14:21

Has he revealed Himself to you According to John 14:21?

Jesus never said he is God
He prayed to God
He ascended to God
He sat down at the right hand of God
He says he is the son of God
God approved him at his baptism
He came to do God's will
He said no man should address him as good except one, God
He said that all he taught was not from him but from God

Nobody asked you this, I only pointing that part out to see how deluded you people be.

Those word above only used FOR YAHWEH.

The Bible says that the Head (authority) of the woman is the Man, the Head of the Man is the Christ, the Head of the Christ is God...

Na wa oooo

According to amusan, Christ is God. Na your eye see God when the Bible say no man has seen God at any time except the Son who explained him

But according to you 1 Timothy 6:16 no ONE HAS SEEN JESUS OR WILL EVER means Jesus isn't God

Emusan:
Incoherent statement
Did you even read what you wrote here?



Jesus revealed Himself to me John 14:21

Has he revealed Himself to you According to John 14:21?



Nobody asked you this, I only pointing that part out to see how deluded you people be.

Those word above only used FOR YAHWEH.



Na wa oooo



But according to you 1 Timothy 6:16 no ONE HAS SEEN JESUS OR WILL EVER means Jesus isn't God

No man can see Jesus, he's a spirit
No man can see God
No man can see the angels too

Be claiming what you don't know
We have not see Jesus
I have never seen him and there's no one I know whether a Witness or not that said Jesus can be seen or they saw him
Your mind was playing you games


King James Version
1 Peter 1:8
Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:

According to the verse, did everyone see Jesus?

Aemmyjah:
No man can see Jesus, he's a spirit
No man can see God
No man can see the angels too

But God revealed Himself to Moses.

People saw Jesus after resurrection or was Jesus not yet a spirit at that time?

Many people saw Angels in the scripture.

Be claiming what you don't know

While you're denying what the scripture says.

We have not see Jesus

Put it better, JWs have not seen Jesus...we understand

But me and many faithful believers have seen Him.

I have never seen him and there's no one I know whether a Witness or not that said Jesus can be seen or they saw him

I know reason why you're twisting and doubting the very word of Jesus in John 14:21.

Jesus made that statement because He wants people to know Him beyond just writings.

Your mind was playing you games

Just as Atheist will say because they don't ever believe such can happen since Bible is just a book.

King James Version
1 Peter 1:8
Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:

According to the verse, did everyone see Jesus?

This verse is simply saying people have not seen Jesus yet They LOVE HIM, how is that hard for you to understand?

You can see the reason you keep jumping from one verse to another when Jesus simply say in John 14:22 that "...and will CLEARLY SHOW Myself to him"

Emusan:
But God revealed Himself to Moses.

People saw Jesus after resurrection or was Jesus not yet a spirit at that time?

Many people saw Angels in the scripture.



While you're denying what the scripture says.



Put it better, JWs have not seen Jesus...we understand

But me and many faithful believers have seen Him.



I know reason why you're twisting and doubting the very word of Jesus in John 14:21.

Jesus made that statement because He wants people to know Him beyond just writings.



Just as Atheist will say because they don't ever believe such can happen since Bible is just a book.




This verse is simply saying people have not seen Jesus yet They LOVE HIM, how is that hard for you to understand?

You can see the reason you keep jumping from one verse to another when Jesus simply say in John 14:22 that "...and will CLEARLY SHOW Myself to him"

Why not create a thread and ask for those who have seen Jesus?
I did not see him but from what I read about him, he became real to me as if I have seen him and known him
Besides, seeing Jesus is not
Is that not why Jesus rebuked Thomas
I did not see him
I know him
I love him

Through the pages of the Bible, they have revealed themselves to me
Seeing them is not necessary
Most important thing is faith and not sight

We walk by faith not by sight (2 Cor 5:7)
Happy are those who have not seen but yet believe (John 20:29)

I have not seen him and I need not see him
I build my faith in him and obey his commandments
I tell others about him and what he'll do
Be claiming to see him

Aemmyjah:
Why not create a thread and ask for those who have seen Jesus?

Look at this thread you're currently, what is the title?

Besides, many threads like have been created in the past.

I did not see him but from what I read about him, he became real to me as if I have seen him and known him

Nobody will beat you for this but take the fact that Jesus Himself promised to REVEAL HIMSELF to those WHO OBEYED AND LOVED HIM.

Besides, seeing Jesus is not
Is that not why Jesus rebuked Thomas
I did not see him
I know him
I love him

Understanding is the key here! Thomas was after SEEING before Believe but Jesus says in John 14:21 that He will do so on His own will.

Through the pages of the Bible, they have revealed themselves to me
Seeing them is not necessary
Most important thing is faith and not sight

Again nobody will beat you for this the fact is that God revealed Himself to people,

People saw Jesus after resurrection

Angels appear to people.

The importance of God, Jesus and Angel revelation is to cast away doubt from human because we're so limited in minds.

So when Jesus promised that "...will clearly show Myself to him"

He knows the reason He made that statement.

We walk by faith not by sight (2 Cor 5:7)
Happy are those who have not seen but yet believe (John 20:29)

All these never disprove that God, Jesus and Angels never appeared to people. Does it?

I have not seen him and I need not see him

That's your choice but Jesus also made His own choice by saying "...will clearly show Myself to him"

I build my faith in him and obey his commandments

Then Jesus will obey His own word when he said "Those who accept my commandments and obey them are the ones who love me. And because they love me, my Father will love them. And I will love them and reveal myself to each of them.”

Pay attention to the @underlineds

I tell others about him and what he'll do

People did this before you and are still doing it or are you the only person who is telling people about Jesus?

Be claiming to see him

Jesus promised that I didn't.

Or was Jesus lying in John 14:21?

Emusan:
Look at this thread you're currently, what is the title?

Besides, many threads like have been created in the past.



Nobody will beat you for this but take the fact that Jesus Himself promised to REVEAL HIMSELF to those WHO OBEYED AND LOVED HIM.



Understanding is the key here! Thomas was after SEEING before Believe but Jesus says in John 14:21 that He will do so on His own will.



Again nobody will beat you for this the fact is that God revealed Himself to people,

People saw Jesus after resurrection

Angels appear to people.

The importance of God, Jesus and Angel revelation is to cast away doubt from human because we're so limited in minds.

So when Jesus promised that "...will clearly show Myself to him"

He knows the reason He made that statement.



All these never disprove that God, Jesus and Angels never appeared to people. Does it?



That's your choice but Jesus also made His own choice by saying "...will clearly show Myself to him"



Then Jesus will obey His own word when he said "Those who accept my commandments and obey them are the ones who love me. And because they love me, my Father will love them. And I will love them and reveal myself to each of them.”

Pay attention to the @underlineds



People did this before you and are still doing it or are you the only person who is telling people about Jesus?



Jesus promised that I didn't.

Or was Jesus lying in John 14:21?

Peter wrote to commend those thst put faith in Jesus despite not seeing him
Am I disproved for never seeing Jesus? No

Jesus himself said that those who obey him, himself and the father will dwell in him
Did that happen?
Did Ethiopian Eucuch see Jesus.
De play

Aemmyjah:
Peter wrote to commend those thst put faith in Jesus despite not seeing him

Jesus stated it before Peter when Thomas doubted Him.

And the point isn't about SEEKING TO SEE JESUS BEFORE BELIEVING but Jesus Himself promised to REVEAL HIMSELF TO THOSE WHO OBEYED AND LOVED HIM.

Am I disproved for never seeing Jesus? No

You're not in position to answer that. Jesus is the one in that position.

You haven't answered my question.

Was Jesus lying when He says "Those who accept my commandments and obey them are the ones who love me. And because they love me, my Father will love them. And I will love them and reveal myself to each of them.” John 14:21

Jesus himself said that those who obey him, himself and the father will dwell in him
Did that happen?

Yes!

Did Ethiopian Eucuch see Jesus.

Did Ethiopian Eucuch tell you he didn't see Jesus?

De play

De cap!

Emusan:
Jesus stated it before Peter when Thomas doubted Him.

And the point isn't about SEEKING TO SEE JESUS BEFORE BELIEVING but Jesus Himself promised to REVEAL HIMSELF TO THOSE WHO OBEYED AND LOVED HIM.



You're not in position to answer that. Jesus is the one in that position.

You haven't answered my question.

Was Jesus lying when He says "Those who accept my commandments and obey them are the ones who love me. And because they love me, my Father will love them. And I will love them and reveal myself to each of them.” John 14:21



Yes!



Did Ethiopian Eucuch tell you he didn't see Jesus?



De cap!

Ethiopian Eunuch saw Jesus?

Aemmyjah:
Ethiopian Eunuch saw Jesus?

He must see his own Jesus otherwise nothing for that Jesus o!

MaxInDHouse:
He must see his own Jesus otherwise nothing for that Jesus o!

I don't mind him
Claiming to know scriptures

Aemmyjah:
I don't mind him. Claiming to know scriptures

He knew Jehovah's Witnesses are loaded with understanding but since we're not for interfaith we can't acknowledge him as one of us so he always like to engage us in arguments not to learn but to exchange hurtful words.
That's why i shunned him completely!

Aemmyjah:
Ethiopian Eunuch saw Jesus?

Did Ethiopian Eunuch tell you he didn't see Jesus?

Emusan:
Did Ethiopian Eunuch tell you he didn't see Jesus?

He told me he saw Jesus

Aemmyjah:
He told me he saw Jesus

So what is the essence of your question then?

Emusan:
So what is the essence of your question then?

It was written ij the Bible thag Ethiopian Eunuch saw Jesus

See hkw ignorant people can be
They lay out foolish accusations against JWs
When they see what they cant prove ij the Bible, they ask a personal question
Everyone knows there was nk record of that man seeing Jesus as the Bible tells us everything that happened right from his journey from Jerusalem
When they csnt prove it cos they are blind, they ask me foolish questions whether Ethiopian Eunuch told me he did not see Jesus... No, he told my cat

Aemmyjah:
It was written ij the Bible thag Ethiopian Eunuch saw Jesus See hkw ignorant people can be They lay out foolish accusations against JWsWhen they see what they cant prove ij the Bible, they ask a personal question Everyone knows there was nk record of that man seeing Jesus as the Bible tells us everything that happened right from his journey from Jerusalem When they csnt prove it cos they are blind, they ask me foolish questions whether Ethiopian Eunuch told me he did not see Jesus... No, he told my cat

Emusan is EMPTY, he has nothing tangible to say he's just happy exchanging words with Jehovah's Witnesses. As long as you're responding to the faithless miscreant he will continue typing anything just to talk back!

See frustration over ignorance!

Aemmyjah:
It was written ij the Bible thag Ethiopian Eunuch saw Jesus

It was written and you still claim below that he didn't see Jesus.

What type of weed are you taking?

See hkw ignorant people can be

Best description of yourself because I wonder if you follow your own statement on this thread.

They lay out foolish accusations against JWs

Pointing fingers has started.

I've been quoting Bible here and not your foolish Watchtower magazine.

When they see what they cant prove ij the Bible, they ask a personal question

I provided Bible verse where Jesus promised to REVEAL HIMSELF TO THOSE WHO OBEYED AND LOVED Him. So what's your point Mr frustrated?

Everyone knows there was nk record of that man seeing Jesus as the Bible tells us everything that happened right from his journey from Jerusalem

So how does this prove that Jesus didn't make the statement in John 14:21?

Since there WAS NO RECORD does that mean HE DIDN'T EXPERIENCE IT, since every details of him were not pen down in the Bible?

Can you see how deluded and ignorance you can be?

When they csnt prove it cos they are blind, they ask me foolish questions whether Ethiopian Eunuch told me he did not see Jesus... No, he told my cat

Bible was not about the Ethiopian Eunuch even Jesus Christ who the WHOLE NEW TESTAMENT was all about. Everything wasn't details about Him.

When you don't have cognitive to comprehend issue you resort to frustration and attack.

The point here is that Jesus promised to REVEAL HIMSELF TO THOSE WHO OBEYED AND LOVED and the testimony of it is everywhere.

MaxInDHouse:
Emusan is EMPTY, he has nothing tangible to say he's just happy exchanging words with Jehovah's Witnesses. As long as you're responding to the faithless miscreant he will continue typing anything just to talk back!

He finally crawl out of his hidden hole

You didn't see how this your brother is disgracing you people.

I know you people want to use technicalities to push that verse to mean it's not LITERAL but figurative.

Emusan:
See frustration over ignorance!



It was written and you still claim below that he didn't see Jesus.

What type of weed are you taking?



Best description of yourself because I wonder if you follow your own statement on this thread.



Pointing fingers has started.

I've been quoting Bible here and not your foolish Watchtower magazine.



I provided Bible verse where Jesus promised to REVEAL HIMSELF TO THOSE WHO OBEYED AND LOVED Him. So what's your point Mr frustrated?



So how does this prove that Jesus didn't make the statement in John 14:21?

Since there WAS NO RECORD does that mean HE DIDN'T EXPERIENCE IT, since every details of him were not pen down in the Bible?

Can you see how deluded and ignorance you can be?



Bible was not about the Ethiopian Eunuch even Jesus Christ who the WHOLE NEW TESTAMENT was all about. Everything wasn't details about Him.

When you don't have cognitive to comprehend issue you resort to frustration and attack.

The point here is that Jesus promised to REVEAL HIMSELF TO THOSE WHO OBEYED AND LOVED and the testimony of it is everywhere.

Show us whwre thw Ethiopian Eunuch saw Jesus?
Shebi na u sabi Bible pass

Aemmyjah:
Show us whwre thw Ethiopian Eunuch saw Jesus? Shebi na u sabi Bible pass

The truth here is that Jesus never appeared to anyone after his Revelations to Apostle John in the final verses of that book he declared:

“I am bearing witness to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone makes an addition to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this scroll; and if anyone takes anything away from the words of the scroll of this prophecy, God will take his portion away from the trees of life and out of the holy city, things that are written about in this scroll" Revelations 22:18-19

Reasonably if Jesus should appear to anyone afterwards then more things will be revealed which will mean ADDITIONAL information to what has been revealed in the Bible so the fact remains that Jesus has declared:

NO ADDITION NO SUBTRACTION hence there's no reason appearing to anyone afterwards!

Aemmyjah:
Show us whwre thw Ethiopian Eunuch saw Jesus?

So your head is now back to normal.

Bible didn't record Ethiopian Eunuch of seeing Jesus.

But did Jesus lie when He made that statement in John 14:21?

This is the question you haven't be able to answer.

Shebi na u sabi Bible pass

Of course, you're learning from me.

Do you know how many Bible studies you and brothers have received from me?

MaxInDHouse:
The truth here is that Jesus never appeared to anyone after his Revelations to Apostle John in the final verses of that book he declared:

“I am bearing witness to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone makes an addition to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this scroll; and if anyone takes anything away from the words of the scroll of this prophecy, God will take his portion away from the trees of life and out of the holy city, things that are written about in this scroll" Revelations 22:18-19

So Jesus was lying when He says "...will CLEARLY SHOW MYSELF to him"

Thank God this statement is directly from Jesus and not from Watchtower. Reason you people want to make it look like it's not literal

Reasonably if Jesus should appear to anyone afterwards then more things will be revealed which will mean ADDITIONAL information to what has been revealed in the Bible so the fact remains that Jesus has declared:

NO ADDITION NO SUBTRACTION hence there's no reason appearing to anyone afterwards!

That is why I do advise you to read Bible and stop reading only Watchtower magazine.

Jesus was talking about PERSONAL ENCOUNTERED of individuals not to pass message to the world.

In fact, Judas not Iscariot asked Him that same question. Read read & read to get out of your Watchtower delusion.

Olodo...

Emusan:
So your head is now back to normal.

Bible didn't record Ethiopian Eunuch of seeing Jesus.

But did Jesus lie when He made that statement in John 14:21?

This is the question you haven't be able to answer.



Of course, you're learning from me.

Do you know how many Bible studies you and brothers have received from me?

Your level of Bible knowledge is very low and disappointing esp as you add your arrogance to it
Bury your hesd in sand

Jesus too said that he and his father will come and reside with those that oit faith in him, what did he mean? Is there anyone that Jesus and his father are living inside?

He said that those who put faith ij him will not see death... But everyone dies... Was he lying

Olodo Christian
Bury yiur head in the sand and find those who yiu claim have seen Jesus
End of conversation

MaxInDHouse:
The truth here is that Jesus never appeared to anyone after his Revelations to Apostle John in the final verses of that book he declared:

“I am bearing witness to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone makes an addition to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this scroll; and if anyone takes anything away from the words of the scroll of this prophecy, God will take his portion away from the trees of life and out of the holy city, things that are written about in this scroll" Revelations 22:18-19

Reasonably if Jesus should appear to anyone afterwards then more things will be revealed which will mean ADDITIONAL information to what has been revealed in the Bible so the fact remains that Jesus has declared:

NO ADDITION NO SUBTRACTION hence there's no reason appearing to anyone afterwards!

Let him bury his head in the sand
The way Jesus revealed himself to me and others is by means of the Bible
The olodo does not understand what reveal means
He thinks revealing something is by seeing it

Aemmyjah:
Your level of Bible knowledge is very low and disappointing esp as you add your arrogance to it

But you keep learning from it.

Bury your hesd in sand

You can't type without misspellings

Too dull Bible wiser

Jesus too said that he and his father will come and reside with those that oit faith in him, what did he mean? Is there anyone that Jesus and his father are living inside?

Yes! Jesus and His Father are living inside many, that you and your JWs haven't experienced it means you're not of Jesus and His Father. Jesus isn't a liar, whatever He says He does.

He said that those who put faith ij him will not see death... But everyone dies... Was he lying

Everyone knows what He meant by this since the same Jesus says people will be KILLED ON ACCOUNT OF HIS NAME.

The reason why I do say you people should leave Watchtower magazine and focus on the God's word alone.

Olodo Christian
Bury yiur head in the sand and find those who yiu claim have seen Jesus

Why you bury your dull head in the mud

I don't need to find them because I'm not their Master Jesus who made promise to them and fulfil it.

End of conversation

Glad you keep learning.