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Workch:
If you are an atheist, our position is not the same.

Why is that hard for you to grasp?

Maybe because you can't understand English when I say I am an AGNOSTIC atheist who holds the exact same position as you. I know you are going to bang your head on the atheist part and ignore the agnostic part while accusing me of cherry picking. Bwahahahahaha!

Workch:
Yes, atleast we have evidence of rats living inside a wall, there's no evidence for atheism 🤣🤣🤣

Lol 😅😅😅😅

Ah yes the famous DSTV channel, off TV. LMFAO!

LordReed:
Maybe because you can't understand English when I say I am an AGNOSTIC atheist who holds the exact same position as you. I know you are going to bang your head on the atheist part and ignore the agnostic part while accusing me of cherry picking. Bwahahahahaha!

Also maybe you can't understand simple English to know that an agnostic atheist is different from an agnostic.

The difference is that, both do not claim to know if a god exist or not, but agnostic atheists go further to take a position by disbelieving it. Agnostic do not disbelieve or believe it either.

I have tried explaining this to you and even a primary two student would have gotten it. 😂😂😂

Workch:
So if the rat is not outside of the house, does that automatically means that the rat is inside the house?

Now put it together, is the rat outside or inside the house? The rat is not outside or inside the house. It's just a nonsensical semantic dribble.

Workch:
Also maybe you can't understand simple English to know that an agnostic atheist is different from an agnostic.

The difference is that, both do not claim to know if a god exist or not, but agnostic atheists go further to take a position by disbelieving it. Agnostic do not disbelieve or believe it either.

I have tried explaining this to you and even a primary two student would have gotten it. 😂😂😂

This is the same you who cannot quote where I said I disbelieve. Bwahahahahaha!

And just like I predicted banging his head on atheist. LMFAO!

LordReed:
Now put it together, is the rat outside or inside the house? The rat is not outside or inside the house. It's just a nonsensical semantic dribble.

This is a Pascal's wager, if we follow your logic.

Pascal's wager lumps all religion together. He argued that it's better to believe in God because you will have nothing to lose if God does not exist.

Pascal's argument is a typical example of a false dichotomy and its as flawed as your argument because he refused to see the other options. You cannot lump all the house together just the way pascal lumped all religions together.

You will be reaching a very illogical conclusion of you do that, you will never see the true picture.

LordReed:
This is the same you who cannot quote where I said I disbelieve. Bwahahahahaha!

And just like I predicted banging his head on atheist. LMFAO!

I don't need to quote, you an agnostic atheist.

You can figure it out yourself 😂

Workch:
This is a Pascal's wager, if we follow your logic.

Pascal's wager lumps all religion together. He argued that it's better to believe in God because you will have nothing to lose if God does not exist.

Pascal's argument is a typical example of a false dichotomy and its as flawed as your argument because he refused to see the difference options. You cannot lump all the house together just the way pascal lumped all religions together.

You will be reaching a very illogical conclusion of you do that, you will never see the true picture.

If you think Pascal's wager is valid then you have crippled yourself intellectually.

Workch:
I don't need to quote, you an agnostic atheist.

You can figure it out yourself 😂

I sure can, I just don't think you are willing to figure it out.

LordReed:
If you think Pascal's wager is valid then you have crippled yourself intellectually.

Really, you think I think that Pascal's wager is valid?

Is that what you could comprehend from that?

Damn 😂😂

LordReed:
I sure can, I just don't think you are willing to figure it out.

I have dude, there's no point going back and forth.
You are an agnostic atheist, it's easy to understand what that means and to know that it's different from pure agnosticism.

It's 18 pages, atheists still cannot demonstrate anything 🤣🤣🤣

Workch:
It's 18 pages, atheists still cannot demonstrate anything 🤣🤣🤣

Demonstrate why they don’t believe in gods. 😂

Workch:
This is a Pascal's wager, if we follow your logic.

Pascal's wager lumps all religion together. He argued that it's better to believe in God because you will have nothing to lose if God does not

Does pascal know we have atheistic religions?
Does pascal know we have different forms of Theism with multiple views of what they call gods?

Workch:
Really, you think I think that Pascal's wager is valid?

Is that what you could comprehend from that?

Damn 😂😂

And if you think anything I said is equivalent to Pascal's wager then you definitely need tweaks to your reasoning.

Workch:
I have dude, there's no point going back and forth.
You are an agnostic atheist, it's easy to understand what that means and to know that it's different from pure agnosticism.

Yes very easy, I even showed you a picture but you kept getting it wrong.

LordReed:
And if you think anything I said is equivalent to Pascal's wager then you definitely need tweaks to your reasoning.

It's equivalent.

The is a house, inside of this house is the believe, outside of it is disbelieve, there are places that cannot be regard as inside of the house like within the wall, in the roof (technically), an ant some within the spaces of the roof is roofing sheet is neithet inside or outside.

Lumping all parts of the house as inside of the house is a false dichotomy and it's flawed

LordReed:
Yes very easy, I even showed you a picture but you kept getting it wrong.

You showed me a picture to disbelieve just like theists show me the bible to believe 😅😅

Workch:
You showed me a picture to disbelieve just like theists show me the bible to believe 😅😅

Point out in the picture where it says disbelieve.

LordReed:
Point out in the picture where it says disbelieve.

lol 🤣

So why are you talking about pictures that you showed me?

LordReed:
Point out in the picture where it says disbelieve.

I put to you that you are confused, LordReed.

You really do not know that you think. The last time we had this conversation, you agreed that you were an igtheist and not I'm seeing agnostic atheist.

What's actually your position? 🤣

Workch:
It's equivalent.

The is a house, inside of this house is the believe, outside of it is disbelieve, there are places that cannot be regard as inside of the house like within the wall, in the roof (technically), an ant some within the spaces of the roof is roofing sheet is neithet inside or outside.

Lumping all parts of the house as inside of the house is a false dichotomy and it's flawed

LMFAO! I lumped all parts of the house as inside the house because I said the rat is not inside the house and it's not outside the house? Bwahahahahaha! OMFD!

Workch:
I put to you that you are confused, LordReed.

You really do not know that you think. The last time we had this conversation, you agreed that you were an igtheist and not I'm seeing agnostic atheist.

What's actually your position? 🤣

Dude quote where I said I am an igtheist. LMFAO!

Workch:
lol 🤣

So why are you talking about pictures that you showed me?

To show you how simple it is and how you keep fucking up something so simple. Even now you cannot show where I said I disbelieve not even in that simple picture but you keep saying I disbelieve. You are so obstinately wrong it is sad. LoLz.

LordReed:
To show you how simple it is and how you keep fucking up something so simple. Even now you cannot show where I said I disbelieve not even in that simple picture but you keep saying I disbelieve. You are so obstinately wrong it is sad. LoLz.

the picture is a false dichotomy. It's no that straight forward

Workch:
the picture is a false dichotomy. It's no that straight forward

Who is the god of judaism, islam and christianity?
Don’t you think they all have something in common?

Workch:
the picture is a false dichotomy. It's no that straight forward

How are 4 sections a dichotomy? LMFAO!

LordReed:
How are 4 sections a dichotomy? LMFAO!

do even know what a false dichotomy is?

😂😂😂

Workch:
do even know what a false dichotomy is?

😂😂😂

Educate me. LoLz.

LordReed:
Educate me. LoLz.

You have two choices. Either you eat an apple every day, or you get sick and need to see the doctor. Of course, this isn't actually true. These are not the only two options you have, but such is the fallacy of the false dichotomy.

Your picture is giving me two choices, it's either I believe or not. Of course this is wrong, I can decide not to believe or disbelieve.

You can go back and look at the piture again.

Workch:
You have two choices. Either you eat an apple every day, or you get sick and need to see the doctor. Of course, this isn't actually true. These are not the only two options you have, but such is the fallacy of the false dichotomy.

Your picture is giving me two choices, it's either I believe or not. Of course this is wrong, I can decide not to believe or disbelieve.

You can go back and look at the piture again.

LMAO! There are 4 segments in my picture so tell me again how it is a dichotomy. Bwahahahaha!

triplechoice:
It's not the fault of science but your inability as a medical doctor to diagnose properly your patients to know what is responsible for what they claim to see.

If you can detect the cause, then you proceed to treat, if not, wait until you know before doing anything. You don't just start administering drugs anyhow which they may not even need.

Ordinary lack of sleep, or cerebral malaria can make people see things ,even to the extent of seeing what they think is a god. In such a situation it's not their religion that's responsible ,but an underlying health condition which has brought on such visions or delusions.

Once the cause is addressed everything returns to normal.

And it's very unethical of you as a medical doctor to mock anyone for their mental health challenges anywhere no matter what. Psychiatric doctors are not known for that. Well ,it may happen in Nigeria, but elsewhere very rare.

Most of your patients, if you are actually what you claim to be, I think you are a quack, sees you as the only person they can talk to about their condition since you have presented yoursellf as the only who can make them make sense of what they are currently experiencing .Family members and friends would certainly have been avoiding them because if it.

So imagine if one of them happens to be here on nairaland reading how you actually feel about them, what do you think would be running through their minds now, and their reaction when next they come to you?

See, you are pathological liar who forgets the things he has said in the past.

Before now, you admitted you only had interest in psychiatric medicine ,and you were another kind of doctor.

Forgetting that, you now want to present yourself as a psychiatric doctor.

You really need help.

You cannot deceive everyone about what you're not.

You don't sound like a doctor, but someone who relies on google and paste to pretend.

Modified. Atheist are not free from seeing things. Theirs is even worse . They just cannot handle it and commit suicide easily.
Go and check the stats. Atheist are more prone to committing suicide from mental illnesses than anyone other group.

So don't celebrate yet

I didnt want to reply this whole assed ignoramus post but I realized there are many folks like you. And for some reason, Nairaland isn't allowing my post, probably because of its length so I'll have to split it
So here goes…
1. So if a patient presented to you complaints of audiovisual hallucinations or delusions of persecutions, say he tells you the statue in his sitting room is telling him to kill his mother, that she is responsible for his failure, you(as a physician) would oblige him and take the statue and examine it for speech abilities since , right? Don't worry you can always take up your case to the psychiatrist journals and hear what they say. Lol
I hope you know those hallucinations may be due to drugs(pharmacologic) or psychosis(pathologic). What do you think is the cause of mass murders in the US and other countries?
2. True, insomnia can cause hallucinations in extreme cases. And yes, religion can influence what people hallucinate about. It contributes to the prefrontal cortex 'images'. Lemme give you an example. A typical African hallucinations involves religious contents like messages etc. Unlike a typical American hallucinatory content.
And no, we don't always give insomniacs antipsychotics.
3. So if I narrate my clinical experience, it translates to mocking my patients? Even if the patient reads a case similar to his or hers, they won't know it's me. My name isn't anywhere on this post, neither is my picture etc here.
Obviously you haven't interfaced with any psychiatrist or even physician because if you do you'll know we relate our experiences. You have no idea how the doctor-patient confidentiality works. I can talk about any case to anyone. Only caveat is I don't talk about the name or any particulars or identities of the patient. Doctors have social media handles where we talk to the world about any case we experience. But not the name. Your little brain didn’t know that.
Everyday you see people talk all sorts about doctors and hospitals on social media. Mostly lies. But we can't counter them on such lies, even if its defamation because doing so(explaining to the populace what went down etc) is breaking the doctor-patient confidentiality and MDCN can have your licence for it. That same patient can turn around and sue you(the doc or hospital) for leaking details to the public (even though you're defending yourself)