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LordReed:
So no coherent non-ambiguous answer.

KnownUnknown:
Higher power, higher intelligence, the universe, different forms of energy, the deistic god are all different ways to spell bullshit.

KnownUnknown:
Bleep it.

Higher power
Supreme being
Higher intelligence
Supreme Intellect
Extra physical Source
The Source
The One
Maximally Great Power
Energy
All forms of Energy
The Universe
The universal consciousness
The ultimate consciousness
The supreme consciousness
Existence
Ultimate existence
The creator
The uncaused cause
The ultimate cause
The necessary being
Higher being
Ultimate being

Negroid001:
Read what accompanied the original post. Ain't replying Athiests and religious extremists.
If you know all, keep it to yourself. Ain't trying to prove I'm smarter than anyone. You don't believe in a higher intelligence? Good for you. Keep it to yourself.

Said earlier my mind is open like a sponge. And i will always correct myself.
Someone said my views were more of Deism, i said fine, that is what it is.

What are ya'll trying to brew up again?

LordReed:
LoLz. As in, seriously. They are just dancing around in some semantic gymnastics. Imagine someone saying "I don't believe" is not the same as "I neither believe nor disbelieve". I am just LMFAO.

triplechoice:
Not the same . Very surprised by this comment of yours . I should be the one laughing at you .

'Neither ,nor' ,means nothing there .

"Neither John nor Peter is here" ,
equals certainty ,meaning there are definitely not here.

' I don't believe John or Peter is here ' is not certainty . It's possible they might be around .

The key thing here is, 'believe' preceeded by the coordinating conjunction ,'neither ,nor ' which is complete negation of what comes after .

So tell me now ,how is it exactly the same ?




A theist can equally bring exactly the same laughable argument you just brought in to dismiss agnosticism . And they too have done something similar in another thread.

It's certainly not possible for both of you viewing it from the opposite end to have the same perspective

So something is definitely wrong.

And what could that be ?

You are both commiting the mistake of trying to interprete agnosticism strictly from your respective position without making the attempt, even for once , to place yourselves in the position of the agnostic, at the middle , in order to understand how exactly it feels to be one .

Agnosticism is a state of mind and for you to make complete sense of it ,you will need to suspend temporary how you currently think and then try to assume the position to function from that state

That's the only way ,Nothing is would do . Mockery and blind arguments won't help at all. Such antics is symptomatic of someone who is afraid of letting go of what they holds on to as truth .


Reading about it is also not enough . You need to take action and demonstrate it for yourselves .

If you are very critical and continue to be critical of agnosticism ,then it's evidence enough, you don't yet understand it just like theist who also cannot make sense of atheism ,wondering why anyone refuses to believe in a god .It doesn't make sense to them and that's why they call you devil worshippers and confused people.

They just can just bring themselves to think from your position . If they do so ,then the deconversion process begins . That's all it works .

I can boast of this ,the day you make sense of agnosticism is the day atheism loses its meaning for you .



Don't use your knowledge and experience of atheism or theism to interprete agnosticism and think you will get it .

Learn what it's separately ,if not , you will fail woefully like an ignorant person trying to use their knowledge and experience of English pronunciation to try to pronounce words in French simply because he sees that both language shares exactly the same phonetic symbols . He won't get it at first , and will ridicule himself in the presence of those who know the correct pronunciation .



It's hugely disappointing to read some comments, not to talk of the craziness alongside it from some persons .

triplechoice:
It doesn't make sense to them and that's why they call you devil worshippers and confused people.

LordReed:
So no coherent non-ambiguous answer.

Maynman:
they don’t call atheists that, they call non-yahweh worshippers that.

When a Christian is abusing those that don’t believe in god, he is talking about his own god, so a Muslim and other non yahweh worshippers are also affected by it. Take note triplechoice.

triplechoice:
I'm not to answer for theist . I did what you should done yourself like I have done before now .

You are making it seem I'm the one making the god claims despite what I explained.

triplechoice:
Stop spewing your ignorance in my face . Take it elsewhere

triplechoice:
I'm not to answer for theist . I did what you should done yourself like I have done before now .

You are making it seem I'm the one making the god claims despite what I explained.

Please don't do this .

LordReed:
LoLz! I am not sure why my response is being seen as an attack. Of course I know you are not the one making the claims.

triplechoice:
Where did I say it's an attack?

triplechoice:
Where did I say it's an attack?

Show me. You want to push it to me That is what I try to point out
I think you quoted the wrong person . Check again

LordReed:
LoLz. You responded to me first dude. Abeg rest.

triplechoice:
No need to fight over this . Agnostics ,atheist or whatever is something anyone can move away from or switch into tomorrow .

Maynman:
Why your body hot?
He never said you said it.


Your definition of “god” is a monotheistic one.. and “god” is a title not a person.

To show that you are barren, how can you find evidence against a title?
Don’t you need to tell us the name of this god and his ability to know how to find evidence against it.

Is like me saying find evidence against teacher, you have to tell me which teacher, which god?

triplechoice:
U go soon enta market wit all ur misrepresentation of mi..

The person that liked your comment doesn't know what has transpired people so he liked shit .

triplechoice:
Not the same . Very surprised by this comment of yours . I should be the one laughing at you .

'Neither ,nor' ,means nothing there .

"Neither John nor Peter is here" ,
equals certainty ,meaning they are definitely not here.

' I don't believe John or Peter is here ' is not certainty . It's possible they might be around .

The key thing here is, 'believe' preceeded by the coordinating conjunction ,'neither ,nor ' which is complete negation of what comes after .

So tell me now ,how is it exactly the same ?




A theist can equally bring exactly the same laughable argument you just brought in to dismiss agnosticism . And they too have done something similar in another thread.

It's certainly not possible for both of you viewing it from the opposite end to have the same perspective

So something is definitely wrong.

And what could that be ?

You are both commiting the mistake of trying to interprete agnosticism strictly from your respective position without making the attempt, even for once , to place yourselves in the position of the agnostic, at the middle , in order to understand how exactly it feels to be one .

Agnosticism is a state of mind and for you to make complete sense of it ,you will need to suspend temporary how you currently think and then try to assume the position to function from that state

That's the only way ,Nothing else would do . Mockery and blind arguments won't help at all. Such antics is symptomatic of someone who is afraid of letting go of what they hold on to as truth .


Reading about it is also not enough . You need to take action and demonstrate it for yourselves .

If you are very critical and continue to be critical of agnosticism ,then it's evidence enough, you don't yet understand it just like theist who also cannot make sense of atheism ,wondering why anyone refuses to believe in a god .It doesn't make sense to them and that's why they call you devil worshippers and confused people.

They just cant just bring themselves to think from your position . If they do so ,then the deconversion process begins . That's all it works .

I can boast of this ,the day you make sense of agnosticism is the day atheism loses its meaning for you .



Don't use your knowledge and experience of atheism or theism to interprete agnosticism and think you will get it .

Learn what it's separately ,if not , you will fail woefully like an ignorant person trying to use their knowledge and experience of English pronunciation to try to pronounce words in French simply because he sees that both language shares exactly the same phonetic symbols . He won't get it at first , and will ridicule himself in the presence of those who know the correct pronunciation .



It's hugely disappointing to read some comments, not to talk of the craziness alongside it from some persons .

triplechoice:
Oh Reed

I remember you once said you are an agnostic atheist .

What does that even mean?

can you explain in simple terms ?

I expected you to understand the agnostic position better ,but you seem not to at all .
I may be wrong though , hence I want you to explain agnostic atheism .

triplechoice:
Oh Reed

I remember you once said you are an agnostic atheist .

What does that even mean?

can you explain in simple terms ?

I expected you to understand the agnostic position better ,but you seem not to at all .
I may be wrong though , hence I want you to explain agnostic atheism .

Maynman:
Why are you so concerned over a “like”.
I just showed everyone you are a dullard that doesn’t know what “god” means yet you are agnostic to it.
If we replace “god” with “dragon” and call it a creator and what is responsible for the world will you also be agnostic to it?
That’s exactly what theistic religions are doing, they call yahweh a god, call Hubal a god, they are dummy idols.

And stop spewing what you lack knowledge on, “buddism” has nothing to do with “god”, it takes its roots in hinduism.
I can take you to the intricate of Hinduism, i am not your mate.

triplechoice:
Go take your medications .You need it now . I fear a relapse is coming from the way you are sounding now

LordReed:
Quote where I said anything about the agnostic position.

triplechoice:
Agnostic atheist ,not agnostic .

triplechoice:
Agnostic atheist ,not agnostic .

triplechoice:
Agnostic atheist ,not agnostic .

triplechoice:
I expected you to understand the agnostic position better ,but you seem not to at all .

LordReed:
Can you quote where I said anything about the agnostic position in order for you to infer I misunderstood it?