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Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Workch(op): 1:42pm On Aug 10, 2023
LordReed:
LoLz! Asked and answered. Reread it if you have forgotten. Bwahahahahahahaha!
I'm just glad that we are on the same page with regards to atheism not being scientific.

But do you agree that science is agnostic? Specifically, science is Ignosticist.
The answer is invariably that "does God exist" is a non-question not worth taking seriously until someone, some day, comes along with a clear, non-outlandish and falsifiable concept.

I think as I learn everyday, I am tilting toward Ignosticism. But I am still doing my research.
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Maynman: 1:47pm On Aug 10, 2023
Workch:
The answer is invariably that "does God exist" is a non-question not worth taking seriously until someone, some day, comes along with a clear, non-outlandish and falsifiable concept.

I think as I learn everyday, I am tilting toward Ignosticism. But I am still doing my research.
Science has to define what “god” means so if someone, some day, comes along with a clear, non-outlandish and falsifiable concept they will be able to match it and prove those evidences.

phlogiston Was defined CLEARLY with his properties right?

Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by LordReed(m): 1:47pm On Aug 10, 2023
Workch:
I'm just glad that we are on the same page with regards to atheism not being scientific.

But do you agree that science is agnostic? Specifically, science is Ignosticist.
The answer is invariably that "does God exist" is a non-question not worth taking seriously until someone, some day, comes along with a clear, non-outlandish and falsifiable concept.

I think as I learn everyday, I am tilting toward Ignosticism. But I am still doing my research.
Ignosticism doesn't claim to be scientific either but sure I am leaning towards it even more. These series of discussions have shown that the question what is a god has no good answers and cannot form the basis for any substantial inquiry.
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Workch(op): 1:51pm On Aug 10, 2023
LordReed:
Ignosticism doesn't claim to be scientific either but sure I am leaning towards it even more. These series of discussions have shown that the question what is a god has no good answers and cannot form the basis for any substantial inquiry.
I have to agree with you here.

But Ignosticism is scientific: it does not take the question of God seriously because there are no falsifiable parameters to test. It thinks that no one should take such abstract concept seriously until someone brings anything that we can test so they really do not bitejr if God exist it not if it cannot be tested.

I like this concept
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Maynman: 1:53pm On Aug 10, 2023
Workch:
But Ignosticism is scientific: it does not take the question of God seriously because there are no falsifiable parameters to test. It thinks that no one should take such abstract concept seriously until someone brings anything that we can test so they really do not bitejr if God exist it not if it cannot be tested.

I like this concept
To a Christian you are an atheist, you don’t believe in his god, to a Muslim you are an atheist you don’t believe in his god, carrying label all around is rubbish.
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Maynman:
Lordreed, ignoticism only makes sense when you are talking to a non theist especially these agnostics. A typical theist has a name for his deity, “god” is just a generic title, an English word with Germanic origins.
A yahweh worshipper and a Allah(hubal) worshipper will never agree they worship the same “god”, they worship different things call “god”.

Also Ignosticism and theological noncognitivism are similar but different. Taking on labels like workch is a endless circle.

Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by sportivation(m): 3:43pm On Aug 10, 2023
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Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by triplechoice(m): 9:11pm On Aug 10, 2023
LordReed:
Deceive who? You? What would that accomplish for me? Bwahahahahahaha!

LoLz! Your saltiness doesn't move me. I have provided you what you asked, if you have questions ask them, I won't be indulging you in repeating what should be clear to someone with secondary school education.
, You can remain unmoved like an Egyptian mummy by what you imagined is 'your saltiness " Its doesn't concern me.,and it's your opinion . You didn give me what I asked for . I want your thoughts on the matter first.

I believe I asked a human being a question .

What's the difference between chatting with a bot and copying and pasting something for me to read, without further explanations

I have data to search for myself .

Besides, what you brought , I have sent it before and even more than that.


The normal thing to do , which everyone does here ,except some few , is to share your thoughts first on the matter to show you understand very well what you are explaining , and then support it with other mateials from the net .

Maynman copy and paste things
regularly from wiki,,but usually gives it a dfferent interpretation nearly everytime.

The definition of agnosticism he got from somewhere is being interpreted waywardly by him to suggest agnostics are people who believe in a god . Have you not seen that ?

Go through the thread and see how he highlighted 'believes' ,ignored the further explanations, and then use it to claim another thing to troll.

I'm not saying you are the same.
But clear my doubts .That's all .I don't want to waste my time anymore here chatting with people who don't understand the topic under discussion . It doesn't always end well .

In any case , That's past . No more interested . Thank you .

Goodnight .
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Maynman:
triplechoice:
The definition of agnosticism he got from somewhere is being interpreted waywardly by him to suggest agnostics are people who believe in a god . Have you not seen that ?

Go through the thread and see how he highlighted 'believes' ,ignored the further explanations, and then use it to claim another thing to troll.
I got the definition from Oxford dictionary, please where did you get the definition of atheism as the “disbelieve” in Gods?
Why is it that you hypocrites are good at dishing out what you can’t take.

Please if you are not dumb you will realise the position you are taking is a belief because theism is a belief to start with. You people are too dumb to realise and bringing in science to theism.

Lordreed should be able to explain that there’s nothing scientific about agnosticism because the basis of what you are agnostic to has nothing to do with science.

Look well, the definition is from Oxford, you are taking a position of belief.

Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Maynman: 9:25pm On Aug 10, 2023
triplechoice:
The definition of agnosticism he got from somewhere is being interpreted waywardly by him to suggest agnostics are people who believe in a god . Have you not seen that ?
You are such a shameless liar, no where in my definition did i say agnostics believe in god, i said the position of agnosticism is a BELIEF! Cc lordreed

You are a shameless liar, you have a personal problem with atheism, that’s how you shamelessly lied on jaephoenix.

Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by LordReed(m): 10:49pm On Aug 10, 2023
triplechoice:
, You can remain unmoved like an Egyptian mummy by what you imagined is 'your saltiness " Its doesn't concern me.,and it's your opinion . You didn give me what I asked for . I want your thoughts on the matter first.

I believe I asked a human being a question .

What's the difference between chatting with a bot and copying and pasting something for me to read, without further explanations

I have data to search for myself .

Besides, what you brought , I have sent it before and even more than that.


The normal thing to do , which everyone does here ,except some few , is to share your thoughts first on the matter to show you understand very well what you are explaining , and then support it with other mateials from the net .

Maynman copy and paste things
regularly from wiki,,but usually gives it a dfferent interpretation nearly everytime.

The definition of agnosticism he got from somewhere is being interpreted waywardly by him to suggest agnostics are people who believe in a god . Have you not seen that ?

Go through the thread and see how he highlighted 'believes' ,ignored the further explanations, and then use it to claim another thing to troll.

I'm not saying you are the same.
But clear my doubts .That's all .I don't want to waste my time anymore here chatting with people who don't understand the topic under discussion . It doesn't always end well .

In any case , That's past . No more interested . Thank you .

Goodnight .
Bye, Felicia. LMFAO!
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by LordReed(m): 11:00pm On Aug 10, 2023
Maynman:
Lordreed, ignoticism only makes sense when you are talking to a non theist especially these agnostics. A typical theist has a name for his deity, “god” is just a generic title, an English word with Germanic origins.
A yahweh worshipper and a Allah(hubal) worshipper will never agree they worship the same “god”, they worship different things call “god”.

Also Ignosticism and theological noncognitivism are similar but different. Taking on labels like workch is a endless circle.
I have a lot think about with regards to ignosticism, it's kinda new to me so I want to take time to really learn about it.
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Maynman: 11:20pm On Aug 10, 2023
LordReed:
I have a lot think about with regards to ignosticism, it's kinda new to me so I want to take time to really learn about it.
Nice.
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by KnownUnknown:
Workch:
But do you agree that science is agnostic? Specifically, science is Ignosticist.
Dude, your views are needlessly theistic.
First it was “agnosticism” is the most scientific.
Now science is “ignosticist”

How about science has nothing to do with mumbo jumbo razzle dazzle whether you call it god or dog.
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Workch(op): 1:37pm On Aug 11, 2023
KnownUnknown:
Dude, your views are needlessly theistic.
First it was “agnosticism” is the most scientific.
Now science is “ignosticist”

How about science has nothing to do with mumbo jumbo razzle dazzle whether you call it god or dog.
Ignosticism is a type of agnosticism.
I'm not to be blame if you don't get it bro.

Science is Ignosticist
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by KnownUnknown: 2:14pm On Aug 11, 2023
Workch:
Ignosticism is a type of agnosticism.
I'm not to be blame if you don't get it bro.

Science is Ignosticist
He just learned of Ignosticism but suddenly he’s an expert. No, ignosticism is not a type of agnosticism because there is no confusion. Ignosticism and theological noncogticism are simply nice ways to say gods are nonsense. They have nothing to do with your unknowable imaginary friend.

Give an example of the physical sciences where supernatural nonsense is part of the criteria.
All these silly labels need not be attached to science in any way.
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Workch(op): 2:16pm On Aug 11, 2023
KnownUnknown:
He just learned of Ignosticism but suddenly he’s an expert.

Give an example of the physical sciences where supernatural nonsense is part of the criteria.
All these silly labels need not be attached to science in any way.
How did I just learn of Ignosticism?
Are you high?
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by KnownUnknown: 2:19pm On Aug 11, 2023
Workch:
How did I just learn of Ignosticism?
Are you high?
Ask your mother.
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Workch(op): 3:24pm On Aug 11, 2023
KnownUnknown:
Ask your mother.
Why do you see everything as a fight?

You cannot be right always dude 😂
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by KnownUnknown: 3:27pm On Aug 11, 2023
Workch:
Why do you see everything as a fight?

You cannot be right always dude 😂
Did your mother say it’s a fight?
My answers reflect your posts. 😂

I didn’t not claim to be right or wrong; just pointing out the nonsense that you write.
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Workch(op): 3:29pm On Aug 11, 2023
KnownUnknown:
My answers reflect your posts. 😂

I didn’t not claim to be right or wrong; just pointing out the nonsense that you write.
You are sounding like someone who is grabbing the last straw to survive. If you continue like this, you may end up like Maynman
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by KnownUnknown: 3:46pm On Aug 11, 2023
Workch:
You are sounding like someone who is grabbing the last straw to survive. If you continue like this, you may end up like Maynman
That’s not an insult child. Now if you say I may end up like Workch, that would be an insult. But that’s as impossible as your deistic god.
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Maynman:
Workch:
You are sounding like someone who is grabbing the last straw to survive. If you continue like this, you may end up like Maynman
The only people grabbing at straws here are you theist sympathizers calling yourself agnostic, now ignostic, ‘only God knows’ what you will call yourself next grin
You will forever be carrying titles formulated by people like you because you lack knowledge of what “god” is.
Your “superior argument” has been dismantled, you have now become empty workch

You claim agnostic “neither believe or disbelieve”.
Now replace disbelief in that statement to non-belief, and see how your folly sound 😂😂
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Workch(op): 6:58pm On Aug 11, 2023
KnownUnknown:
That’s not an insult child. Now if you say I may end up like Workch, that would be an insult. But that’s as impossible as your deistic god.
Who's a kid?
Lol, I may be old enough to be your father with the way you insult people ate every opportunity. The only matured atheist here is LordReed, you and manynman are acting like babies.
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Maynman: 7:02pm On Aug 11, 2023
Workch:
Who's a kid?
Lol, I may be old enough to be your father with the way you insult people ate every opportunity. The only matured atheist here is LordReed, you and manynman are acting like babies.
Idiot said “matured atheist” 😂😂

I will tutor you and your father when it comes to the word “god”.
You this old kid playing with deities grin
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Maynman: 7:11pm On Aug 11, 2023
Workch:
you and manynman are acting like babies.
To enter kingdom of God you have to be a baby.
Matthew 18:3
"Truly, I say to you, unless you turn and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.”

When they asked carl jung if he believes in god, he said i dont believe, I KNOW.

I am not an atheist because i lack knowledge like you.
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by KnownUnknown: 7:44pm On Aug 11, 2023
Workch:
Who's a kid?
Lol, I may be old enough to be your father with the way you insult people ate every opportunity. The only matured atheist here is LordReed, you and manynman are acting like babies.
You are. If not because of age then because of intellect.
“Matured atheist” because he, Lordreed, is still humoring your nonsense. When he starts summarily dismissing your senseless beliefs, you will call him a baby too. Hell, I’m pretty sure you’ve already insulted him.
Don’t write slick and pompous responses if you don’t want your brain addled ass insulted.

I’m not an atheist. Gods are nonsense is not a statement of belief or non belief.
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Maynman: 7:58pm On Aug 11, 2023
My play here on this thread is done.
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by A001: 8:33pm On Aug 11, 2023
Workch:
Who's a kid?
Lol, I may be old enough to be your father with the way you insult people ate every opportunity. The only matured atheist here is LordReed, you and manynman are acting like babies.
LordReed is one of the very few atheists here that visit the religion section regularly at this period I'm always willing to engage because he demonstrates high intelligence on a range of issues and doesn't he force things showing his maturity.

Interacting with such people adds to one's knowledge.

Those m.orons you've been engaging want to win any arguments at all cost showing their intelligence level is low.

They sleep and wake up on Nairaland forum every day, and engaging in silly debates on Nairaland is their daily job.

I know they'll start bombarding me with mentions now. I've not even opened their silly mentions of yesterday.

When I'm less busy, na to bin them all.
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by KnownUnknown: 8:45pm On Aug 11, 2023
A001:
LordReed is one of the very few atheists here that visit the religion section regularly at this period I'm always willing to engage because he demonstrates high intelligence on a range of issues and doesn't he force things showing his maturity.

Interacting with such people adds to one's knowledge.

Those m.orons you've been engaging want to win any arguments at all cost showing their intelligence level is low.

They sleep and wake up on Nairaland forum every day, and engaging in silly debates on Nairaland is their daily job.

I know they'll start bombarding me with mentions now. I've not even opened their silly mentions of yesterday.

When I'm less busy, na to bin them all.
Oh, he has time!!!
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Workch(op): 11:23pm On Aug 11, 2023
A001:
LordReed is one of the very few atheists here that visit the religion section regularly at this period I'm always willing to engage because he demonstrates high intelligence on a range of issues and doesn't he force things showing his maturity.

Interacting with such people adds to one's knowledge.

Those m.orons you've been engaging want to win any arguments at all cost showing their intelligence level is low.

They sleep and wake up on Nairaland forum every day, and engaging in silly debates on Nairaland is their daily job.

I know they'll start bombarding me with mentions now. I've not even opened their silly mentions of yesterday.

When I'm less busy, na to bin them all.
I know, and the moment you don't agree with them or you start winning them in that argument, they will start raining insults.

Kids
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Workch(op): 11:25pm On Aug 11, 2023
KnownUnknown:
You are. If not because of age then because of intellect.
“Matured atheist” because he, Lordreed, is still humoring your nonsense. When he starts summarily dismissing your senseless beliefs, you will call him a baby too. Hell, I’m pretty sure you’ve already insulted him.
Don’t write slick and pompous responses if you don’t want your brain addled ass insulted.

I’m not an atheist. Gods are nonsense is not a statement of belief or non belief.
LordReed has shown sense of maturity, you are not. He remains calm even in the midst of tough opposition.

It's okay for people to not agree with you, it doesn't mean that you should insult them.
What makes you a matured is your ability to engage people responsibly. Stop doing like a baby.
I have been having conversations with LordReed, even with the disagreements, we still made it civil. You are manynman just go about insulting people like kids, I will never take your likes seriously.
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