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1nice:
You are confusing yourself and deceiving yourself and people like you.

I never claimed that Africa never had laws against homosexualism because it never existed in Africa: I said before Anti-gay laws were made in Africa countries, that gay and lesbian were constituting nuisance to the African public which leads African people to demand for Anti-gay and lesbian laws in order to stop the further spread of unnatural practices of homosexualism and lesbianism in Africa countries; homosexualism and lesbianism is criminalized in almost all African countries by laws that forbids the practices of homosexual and lesbianism.

Your wailing is getting hold of you!

speak for your tribe only you can't speak for the 2000 tribes in Africa we are all completely different we don't speak the same language and culture neither do we share the same faith if your tribe does not recognise homosexualism it does not mean other tribes don't also recognise homosexualism

BlackAdam65:
speak for your tribe only you can't speak for the 2000 tribes in Africa we are all completely different we don't speak the same language and culture neither do we share the same faith if your tribe does not recognise homosexualism it does not mean other tribes don't also recognise homosexualism

Stop spreading falsehood and fake news.

Stop encouraging criminality gay and lesbian practices in Africa, there is no reason whatsoever to justify this menaces of homosexual and lesbian practices.

Whether you or people like you like it or not Africans already saying No To Gay And Lesbian Practices In Africa.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxrFn5md4ik&pp=ygUVQm90c3dhbmEgYW50aSBnYXkgbGF3

BlackAdam65:
Recently at a public forum, someone asked me if “same-sex relations in Africa [are] un-African?” While answering the question, another interjected, “all these foreign White man’s practices [are] forced on us,” evidently alluding to the fact that same-sex relations is inherently a “western import,” foisted on Africans by European colonizers. 

Indeed, few issues are as difficult to grapple with as the fact that precolonial Africa practiced same sex relations with the practice itself being hotly contested in Africa for centuries. In nearly all African countries today, same-sex relations are considered a taboo. Many allege that European colonizers brought with them the “ungodly gift of homosexuality,” despite the range of available historical evidence to the contrary. Even some historians and Africanist scholars have either denied or ignored African same-sex patterns while others have claimed that such patterns were outright colonial importations. This piece argues to the contrary and contends that homophobia was a colonial imposition.

The myth that same-sex relations were absent in precolonial Africa is one of the most enduring. Digging through history and drawing from African-derived examples, it becomes clear that traditional Africa was tolerant of different sexualities, orientations and gender relations. Thus, it is disservice to history to say that same-sex relations in Africa was introduced by Europeans.

In my review of Nwando Achebe’s Female Monarchs and Merchant Queens in Africa, I highlighted the African phenomenon of “gendered males” and “gendered females” which refers to the way that the interconnected universe allows males to transform themselves into females and females to transform themselves into males. As Achebe argued, “these transformations are encouraged by a milieu that recognizes that . . . sex and gender do not coincide; that gender is a social construct and is flexible and fluid, allowing . . . women to become gendered men, and . . . men, gendered women.” 

So, to understand same-sex relations in traditional Africa, one must understand African cosmology. There is a close relationship between spirituality and sexuality in African cosmology as well as with the different types of spiritual power associated with each sex. This worldview not only gave rise to male and female gendered spiritual forces but also allowed for the practice of same-sex relations. 
Several instances in oral histories, critical texts, folklore, and ethnographic reports confirm that traditional Africa recognized same-sex relations. Thousands of years ago, evidence from rock paintings show the prevalence of anal sex between San men in present-day Zimbabwe. In Tommy Boys, Lesbian Men, the authors identified several same sex practices in ancient and contemporary Africa while in Egypt, as far back as 2400 BCE, excavated bodies of two men, Niankhkhnum and Khnumhotep, showed them apparently cuddled to each other as lovers. Also, in some traditional African societies, certain magic rituals and rites of passage from boyhood to adulthood often involved same-sex activities.

In precolonial northern Congo, Azande warrior-men routinely married boys who operated as temporary wives. According to Boy Wives and Female Husbands, the practice was institutionalized to the extent that the warriors paid bride price to the parents of the boys. When these boys became warrior-men, they too married “boy-wives.”

The Portuguese, among the first Europeans to explore the African continent, noted in their ethnographic reports a range of male-to-male sexual relations among the Congo people which they referred to as “unnatural damnation.” Writing about the Imbangala people present-day Angola, Andrew Battell confirmed there were “men in women’s apparel, with whom they kept amongst their wives” while Jean Baptiste Labat reported about a caste of cross-dressing male diviners known as chibados whose leader “dresses ordinarily as a woman and makes an honor of being called Grandmother.”

Additionally, female husbandry demonstrates the fluidity of gender relations and queerness in traditional Africa. For example, Queen Njinga Mbanda, ruler of the Mbundu people in present-day Angola, who rose to power in 1624 and strongly resisted Portuguese dominion, assumed multiple sexual and gender roles and/or identities. She often dressed as a man, married “female wives” and had a harem of men whom she had to dress as women. As a “female-husband,” she undoubtedly transgressed gender binaries and even answered to the title of “King” during battles.

In ancient Buganda (present-day Uganda), King Mwanga II, who strongly opposed colonialism and Christianity, was an openly gay monarch. The practice of same-sex relations was rife among the Siwa people of Egypt, Benin people of Nigeria, Nzima people of Ghana, San people of Zibmabwe and Pangwe people of present-day Gabon and Cameroon.

Another noteworthy point is that some precolonial African societies did not have a binary of genders. Among the Igbo and Yoruba of Nigeria, gender was not assigned to babies at birth until later life. Paulla Ebron writes that ‘[i]n many places in West Africa, gender is not something that newborns are fully equipped with. The making of women and men is formally performed through age-grade systems that usher children into women and men.” 

Findings on gender relations in precolonial Igbo culture demonstrate that gender and sex did not coincide. Instead, gender was flexible and fluid, allowing women to become men and vice versa. It was a culture in which gender was re-constructed and performed according to social need. In contemporary Igboland, female-husband practices are still allowed with the understanding that the “wives” in the relationship will render any male children they bear to the female-husband in order to provide a male heir.

Regarding gender and spirituality, African metaphors for God do not necessarily reflect the ways in which theologians and religious historians of Africa write about God. African names for God are gender-neutral or genderless and in some societies, the Creator God is female. In ancient African societies, many deities were portrayed as having both male and female characteristics and being neither distinguishably masculine nor feminine. More so, goddesses such as Mut (the goddess of Mother[hood]) and Sekmeht (goddess of war) in ancient Egypt were often depicted as women with erect joysticks.
Additionally, the fact that these relations were sometimes identified with specific terms and lingo in precolonial times demonstrate their prevalence. Among the Hausa of Nigeria, yan dauda is a term used to describe effeminate men and male wives. Among the Khoikhoi of South Africa, koetsire is a term used to refer to men who are sexually receptive to other men. Among the Yoruba, adofuro is an euphemism used to describe someone or an intersex person who has anal sex. Although these terms are used derogatorily today, they are not new, rather, they are as old as the cultures where they are used.

One reason lies with the religious repercussions of colonization and the popularity of fundamental Christianity which have been used to argue that same-sex relations are un-African. Missionary activity, evangelization and subsequent colonial conquest led to the criminalization and demonization of same-sex relations in Africa. Using the Bible and Christianity as the credo of African morality, Western heteronormativity displaced notions of traditional African sexual fluidity. British archival reports show how European Penal Codes, enacted in colonial Africa, criminalized gay relations. For instance, the 1860 Indian Penal Code of 1860 and the 1899 Queensland Criminal Code forbade same sex practices in African colonies. Hence, same-sex relations, though commonly practiced, and maybe even accepted, throughout traditional Africa, were seen in bad taste, and seldom publicly recognized in colonial Africa.

Such a rigid perception of human sexuality is problematic. Claude Summers argued that because “human sexuality, human behaviour and emotions, are fluid and various rather than static or exclusive . . . the terms homosexual and heterosexual should more properly be used as adjectives rather than nouns, referring to acts and emotions but not to people.” Unquestionably, homophobia was deeply rooted both in European racial perception of the “Other” and colonial rule. Observations of same-sex relations in many African cultures were considered by European colonizers as further proof of African inferiority. Unquestionably, early African scholarship was also influenced by experiences of colonial rule while contemporary America’s conservative evangelicals have also wielded an uncanny influence on Africa’s sexual politics.These examples, and many others not mentioned, confirm the historicity and visibility of same-sex relations in precolonial Africa. Same-sex relations in Africa are not un-African. While the practice may not have been accepted in all cultures at all times, it certainly predated the European colonial conquest of Africa. If anything, Europeans brought homophobia to Africa; they were intolerant of same-sex relations and established systems of surveillance and regulation for expressing it. In the end, the main challenge is for academics, civil society, media and activists to reckon with history and [re]tell it in a way that recognizes the multiple facets of gender and human sexuality in both traditional and contemporary Africa and the Black world. At the same time, this is a clarion call for a change of attitude, inclusivity, mutual respect, and tolerance for all regardless of their sexualities.
Did Europe Bring Homophobia to Africa? | AAIHS
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You are confusing yourself more and more: homosexual and lesbian practices are not part of Africa people culture, homosexual and lesbian practices in Africa is a taboo and consider abomination and anyone caught practing gay and lesbian will be arrested and handed over to the police and charge for felony and unnatural acts.

BlackAdam65:
show me one African tribe that had written laws against homosexualism

Before the African colonial era, some Africa tribe were Jews and their Jews rules do not allow them to practice gay and lesbian and by then there was nothing like Christianity and Islam in Africa continent.

If you need proof do the research yourself and find out the truth: even the story is written in the bible and Quora.

Anyone supporting gays and lesbians practices in Africa is a foolish person and an uneducated person.

BlackAdam65:
can you show me proof that those laws exist during the pre colonial era

If you want proof then go and find out the proof yourself: I will give you clues to finding the truth.

Before the African colonial era, some Africa tribe were Jews and their Jews rules do not allow them to practice gay and lesbian and by then there was nothing like Christianity and Islam in Africa continent.

If you need proof do the research yourself and find out the truth: even the story is written in the bible and Quora.

You should not be like foolish people who argue without thinking and talk carelessly.

1nice:
Before the African colonial era, some Africa tribe were Jews and their Jews rules do not allow them to practice gay and lesbian and by then there was nothing like Christianity and Islam in Africa continent.

If you need proof do the research yourself and find out the truth: even the story is written in the bible and Quora.

Anyone supporting gays and lesbians practices in Africa is a foolish person and an uneducated person.

I though you said all African tribes have laws against homosexualism now your saying some you are really confused

1nice:
You are confusing yourself more and more: homosexual and lesbian practices are not part of Africa people culture, homosexual and lesbian practices in Africa is a taboo and consider abomination and anyone caught practing gay and lesbian will be arrested and handed over to the police and charge for felony and unnatural acts.

only in Morden day Africa but it wasn't a big deal during pregnancy colonial Africa

1nice:
Stop spreading falsehood and fake news.

Stop encouraging criminality gay and lesbian practices in Africa, there is no reason whatsoever to justify this menaces of homosexual and lesbian practices.

Whether you or people like you like it or not Africans already saying No To Gay And Lesbian Practices In Africa.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxrFn5md4ik&pp=ygUVQm90c3dhbmEgYW50aSBnYXkgbGF3

you have no proof to show that what I'm saying is false if preclinical Africa had laws against homosexualism why do most African claim they have no name for homosexualism and how on earth can you have laws against something you don't have a name for

Na wa o

BlackAdam65:
you have no proof to show that what I'm saying is false if preclinical Africa had laws against homosexualism why do most African claim they have no name for homosexualism and how on earth can you have laws against something you don't have a name for

You are talking nonsense!
You are not wise, you have no proof to verify your false claims and you continue to speak without thinking.

What is your name and what is your nationality?

At this moment you should be ashamed of yourself for speaking nonsense words.

BlackAdam65:
only in Morden day Africa but it wasn't a big deal during pregnancy colonial Africa

You are talking nonsense!!

You are a shameless wailer that talks nonsense and continue to wailing for rubbish things.

BlackAdam65:
you have no proof to show that what I'm saying is false if preclinical Africa had laws against homosexualism why do most African claim they have no name for homosexualism and how on earth can you have laws against something you don't have a name for

Are you not ashamed of yourself for speaking without thinking and you think you are talking sense whereas you are talking nonsense!

What is the name of your father and from which family do you come from?

Are you a Botswana or a Jamaican?

What is the highest level of education you have?

1nice:
You are talking rubbish, any unnatural Act in Africa then is punished with instant death until the missionaries came and death penalty was no longer the usual punishment for unnatural acts and that is the fact.

Next time,learn to make extensive research before parading your ignorance as facts. Homosexuality was common in Africa, homophobia is a western concept that came with their religion

nedekid:
Just cannot figure why a man will want to dip his blablablu into another man's bulaba.
Does it not smell? How is it a turn on to see garri, cassava, ewa, moi moi, beans and dodooo in the form of hot shit on your blablablu? Haba!

Sex is the only thing that comes into your perverse mind when you think of homosexuality, it's no wonder you Nigerians don't know what love is,you mistake sex for it and when women use you for your money,y'all will be crying

1nice:
If you want proof then go and find out the proof yourself: I will give you clues to finding the truth.

Before the African colonial era, some Africa tribe were Jews and their Jews rules do not allow them to practice gay and lesbian and by then there was nothing like Christianity and Islam in Africa continent.

If you need proof do the research yourself and find out the truth: even the story is written in the bible and Quora.

You should not be like foolish people who argue without thinking and talk carelessly.

Meaning you have no proof,got it BlackAdam65,you've done your best man, it's best not to argue with someone parading their theories as facts, it's much more funnier to watch them wallow in their ignorance

1nice:
Are you not ashamed of yourself for speaking without thinking and you think you are talking sense whereas you are talking nonsense!

What is the name of your father and from which family do you come from?

Are you a Botswana or a Jamaican?

What is the highest level of education you have?

When they know they can't back up their bigotry,they resort to insults. Perfect example, BlackAdam65 you literally gave him back to back

Flamemignon1:
Sex is the only thing that comes into your perverse mind when you think of homosexuality, it's no wonder you Nigerians don't know what love is,you mistake sex for it and when women use you for your money,y'all will be crying

Tell is what love is Mr foreigner since we Nigerians don't know.
So when it comes to homosexuality, what else do you think of, since we think of sex and you think of something else. What is that "something else" you think about.
And what makes women use us for money that we will be crying? This one made me laugh trying to figure out what you meant.

nedekid:
Tell is what love is Mr foreigner since we Nigerians don't know.
So when it comes to homosexuality, what else do you think of, since we think of sex and you think of something else. What is that "something else" you think about.
And what makes women use us for money that we will be crying? This one made me laugh trying to figure out what you meant.

I think of love,romantic affection and your mind quickly sways to sex. Also not all gay people engage in anal sex,anal sex is a type of sex not gay sex, straight people engage in it too and I don't see your vitriol for them as you have for the gays. I guess you also don't believe asexual gay people and asexual straight people exist too right?

Flamemignon1:
I think of love,romantic affection and your mind quickly sways to sex. Also not all gay people engage in anal sex,anal sex is a type of sex not gay sex, straight people engage in it too and I don't see your vitriol for them as you have for the gays. I guess you also don't believe asexual gay people and asexual straight people exist too right?

Oga, if you are a man and you do what you should be doing with a woman with another man, you are gay, a homo.
Simple as ABC.
No offence meant.

nedekid:
Oga, if you are a man and you do what you should be doing with a woman with another man, you are gay, a homo.
Simples as ABC.
No offence meant.

Did you read what I wrote? Did I say I'm not gay? I said I get accused of being straight because I'm dating a transman,some even calling me a fake gay

Flamemignon1:
Next time,learn to make extensive research before parading your ignorance as facts. Homosexuality was common in Africa, homophobia is a western concept that came with their religion

You are suffering from mental sickness, that is why normal person can not debate with mad person like you: I am not debating with you, just allowing you to display your ignorance and foolishness to the public to your shame and disgrace.


Concerns Nigerians will continue to do right things by warning stupid and foolish gay and lesbian people in Nigeria and Africa so they can stop their stupidity and unnatural acts.

Illiterate, ignorance people like you displaying ignorance and foolishness on daily basis: you know nothing; you and your people should be ashamed of yourselves for been proud of belonging to an outlaws group ( Homosexuals and lesbians) even animals do not practice homosexuality and lesbianism.

Mugu people displaying their ignorance!!

Flamemignon1:
Meaning you have no proof,got it BlackAdam65,you've done your best man, it's best not to argue with someone parading their theories as facts, it's much more funnier to watch them wallow in their ignorance

Illiterate, ignorance people like you displaying ignorance and foolishness on daily basis: you know nothing; you and your people should be ashamed of yourselves for been proud of belonging to an outlaws group ( Homosexuals and lesbians) even animals do not practice homosexuality and lesbianism.

Flamemignon1:
When they know they can't back up their bigotry,they resort to insults. Perfect example, BlackAdam65 you literally gave him back to back

Your quote is baseless: anyone arguing with a foolish person is wasting his or her time; you better look for stupid people to argue with, not me.

Continue wailing and crying like a baby!

We concerns Nigerians love to see ignorance people who refused to take correction, wailing and crying.

Continue wailing and crying louder!!!

1nice:
Your quote is baseless: anyone arguing with a foolish person is wasting his or her time; you better look for stupid people to argue with, not me.

Continue wailing and crying like a baby!

We concerns Nigerians love to see ignorance people who refused to take correction, wailing and crying.

Continue wailing and crying louder!!!

Lol, thanks for proving my point,when they have nothing,they resort to insults

Flamemignon1:
Lol, thanks for proving my point,when they have nothing,they resort to insults

When you have nothing to say, you resort to talking nonsense.

You people will continue to remain in confusion!!

1nice:
When you have nothing to say, you resort to talking nonsense.

You people will continue to remain in confusion!!

BlackAdam65 already said it all and you brought out nothing to prove him wrong so.....

Flamemignon1:
BlackAdam65 already said it all and you brought out nothing to prove him wrong so.....

If you do not have any meaningful words to contribute to the eradication of homosexual and lesbian practices in Nigeria then shut up and stop talking rubbish.

1nice:
If you do not have any meaningful words to contribute to the eradication of homosexual and lesbian practices in Nigeria then shut up and stop talking rubbish.

Eradication is a pipe dream

Flamemignon1:
Eradication is a pipe dream

You people eyes would soon clear: gays, lesbian, and lgbt people wailing, weeping and gnashing of teeth will soon begin in Nigeria; the eradication of gay, lesbians and lgbt from Nigeria is happening sooner.

You and your people are good for nothing trash.

1nice:
You people eyes would soon clear: gays, lesbian, and lgbt people wailing, weeping and gnashing of teeth will soon begin in Nigeria; the eradication of gay, lesbians and lgbt from Nigeria is happening sooner.

You and your people are good for nothing trash.

your mumu too much ooooo😃

Gromilla010:
your mumu too much ooooo😃

your mumu too much ooooo 😆

1nice:
You people eyes would soon clear: gays, lesbian, and lgbt people wailing, weeping and gnashing of teeth will soon begin in Nigeria; the eradication of gay, lesbians and lgbt from Nigeria is happening sooner.

You and your people are good for nothing trash.

Good luck with that