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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 1:41pm On Aug 21, 2023
Spy360:
You mean you didn't click the Wikipedia link I posted?
I did & ofcox i saw the betrayer/fraudster called josephus who probably wrote for the highest bidder.


are u saying that all the writers/historians/scholars throughout the Roman empire were murdered during the era that jesus existed?

nobody 2 give us an eyewitnese acct? lol
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 1:48pm On Aug 21, 2023
Even some nigerians wey read achebe's 'there was a country' wey be eyewitness acct dey doubt & question his acct.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 1:55pm On Aug 21, 2023
cool

[font=serif]Wike don resume work sharp sharp!



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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 1:57pm On Aug 21, 2023
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
maybe if u can prove 2 us that when jesus existed...there was no writer/scholar/historian in the whole roman empire 2 give us an eyewitness account abt the life & times of jesus?.!

Tell us why Josephus a jew who abandoned the jewish pple during the Jewish~Roman war & defected 2 the side of the Romans, accepted Roman citizenship?. Where is his credibility? Authenticity? then years later he wrote a book & mentioned jesus, a man who died 10yrs ago b4 he was born? Decades later, Xtianity became the state/0fficial religion of the roman
empire? ..

what abt Josephus father? a Jewish priest... dis priest did not hear/meet jesus? What did he say as an eyewitness acct?
U just continue shifting goalpost. grin

Initially u were asking for primary source until I pointed it out to u that it's not possible for u to be asking for primary source of data for someone who died over 2000 years ago. Those who lived that period have all died; what u can get at best is the written account to those who lived during that period.

Now Spy360 mentioned Josephus' work and u claimed they were not primary source. I mentioned Saul who actually lived that period and his numerous letters/accounts of what happened but u say no.

Now u will not agree with Saul's accounts of what happened in history and U went as far as claiming the romans invented the character Jesus. Afrodoc has asked u to make sense out of Romans killing Jesus' followers for 300 years only for them to Deify him cos they wanted to rule the world. I noticed u side-stepped that question.

Oya let me ask u these questions since u've been doing the asking since:

1. When did Christianity become state religion in Rome?
2. When year was Josephus born?
3. When did Josephus write his account of Jesus' history?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 2:10pm On Aug 21, 2023
[font=serif]I pray IPOB [UGM] are stopped now before its too late. Killing Yoruba people in Igboland won't end well.


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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by LordAdam16: 2:11pm On Aug 21, 2023
liveLongNprospa:
Lmao.. I am hoping JP Morgan is wrong.

They have to be
The unsettling part is that they're working with EOY 22 figures.

As of Friday, reserves had declined further by $3B. https://www.cbn.gov.ng/IntOps/Reserve.asp

Ceteris paribus, we're actually net $1B. By end of year, we'll have a negative net reserve if we aren't already.

I'll await corroboration by other A-list analysts. JP Morgan should be in the know though: they're the largest foreign holders of CBN's securities debt.

-Lord
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Kobojunkie: 2:21pm On Aug 21, 2023
A001:
■ I didn't make any claims. I stated facts, real historical facts backed with science. All the languages spoken in the world today were invented by some past humans. That's a fact, not a claim. Languages don't just drop from heavens like manna or come from fictional characters like Jesus. Who is Ifa to you? Let's start from there.
That is probably why we refer to them all as human languages, but that is beside the point here since your claim is instead that Ifa used his so-called binary system to invent the Yoruba language. Explain this binary system to us and how Ifa supposedly achieved these feats you claim, PastorA001. undecided
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 2:21pm On Aug 21, 2023
liveLongNprospa:
JP Morgan on CBN numbers

https://markets.jpmorgan.com/research/email/-6l485sp/2uGbcUDfTAknuXuhZpjHNg/GPS-4491177-0
So, Jay Z and Kanye West alone are worth more than the external reserves of the most populated black country on Earth?

Nice. Really nice.

We moved from "Obi lu'le" trolling to "Nigeria lu'le" in less than 5 months.

Nice.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Kobojunkie: 2:22pm On Aug 21, 2023
A001:
■ It cannot make sense to an African that has installed the virus called the Bible in their brain. It won't make you think clearly and deeply.
Are you, not the same PastorA001 fellow who went around Nairaland as a servant to religious men of gods aka pastors and mogs, up until just some months ago? undecided
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by hopefulLandlord:
Historians generally don't agree that a Jesus existed. What they do is agree that there's a "huge possibility" that a Jesus existed, who would probably have been just another man preacher. That's where it all ends!!

What these Christian apologists then do is play word games and say historians "definitely" agree that Jesus existed hoping you don't question that then use that opportunity to claim historians claim Jesus as described in the Bible definitely existed.

If you claim that Jesus as an ordinary person exists then what's the point? You think those challenging the existence of Jesus are doing so to try to disclaim the existence of someone named Jesus that probably existed then? They're challenging the Jesus as existed in the Bible. A Bible with other stories like talking snakes, talking donkeys and a god so threatened by a tower that he decided to scatter the unity among those building it although he now apparently has no issues with space travel or maybe he does once in a while cuz a Russian lunar shuttle just crashed recently
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by sod09(m): 2:27pm On Aug 21, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Are you, not the same PastorA001 fellow who went around Nairaland as a servant to religious men of gods aka pastors and mogs, up until just some months ago? undecided
No he’s not this one hate white man religion
But he worships a Chelsea fan called Otem now tem he’s also a Chelsea fan by the way
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 2:27pm On Aug 21, 2023
BlueRayDick:
Initially u were asking for primary source until I pointed it out to u that it's not possible for u to be asking for primary source of data for someone who died over 2000 years ago. Those who lived that period have all died; what u can get at best is the written account to those who lived during that period.
martin luther the german priest died 100 oF centuries ago.. but his works are still standing tall. check his 91 abi 94 thesis against the church, albert enstein, ivan the terrible, napoleone, abraham lincoln all are verifiable. e reach jesus turn we no see anybody during his time 2 verify or give us an eyewitness acct of jesus.



dey play.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Kobojunkie: 2:29pm On Aug 21, 2023
sod09:
No he’s not this one hates white man religion But he worships a Chelsea fan called Otem now tem he’s also a Chelsea fan by the way
OK undecided
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 2:30pm On Aug 21, 2023
[quote author=OasisX post=125259655][font=serif]I pray IPOB [UGM] are stopped now before its too late. Killing Yoruba people in Igboland won't end well.


won't end well?

Yorubas would start killing Igbos?[/color]
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 2:47pm On Aug 21, 2023
Rome was an empire bro. Xtianity became d popular religion cox it promote the doctrine of "divine rule" which favor the roman emperor.. no questions, easy loyalty, total control.

If that is what will bring peace & prosperity in the empire, fvck it, nobody cares abt d xtians they killed in the past. A state cares only abt her interest
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 2:49pm On Aug 21, 2023
izzou:
[color=royalblue]What won't end well?

Yorubas would start killing Igbos?[/color]
....feel free to code it as you wish bro.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 2:49pm On Aug 21, 2023
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
martin luther the german priest died 100 oF centuries ago.. but his works are still standing tall. check his 91 abi 94 thesis against the church, albert enstein, ivan the terrible, napoleone, abraham lincoln all are verifiable. e reach jesus turn we no see anybody during his time 2 verify or give us an eyewitness acct of jesus.



dey play.
I can see u are seriously in the business of shifting goal post; u don carry martin Luther enter matter while u never finish Josephus matter grin

U didn't answer of the 3 questions posed in the mail below u quoted. Perhaps u didn't see them, oya see them here again:

1. When did Christianity become state religion in Rome?
2. When year was Josephus born?
3. When did Josephus write his account of Jesus' history?

I'm expecting ur response .
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Kobojunkie: 2:52pm On Aug 21, 2023
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
martin luther the german priest died 100 oF centuries ago.. but his works are still standing tall. check his 91 abi 94 thesis against the church, albert enstein, ivan the terrible, napoleone, abraham lincoln all are verifiable. e reach jesus turn we no see anybody during his time 2 verify or give us an eyewitness acct of jesus. dey play.
How many of those died over 2000 years ago? undecided
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 2:56pm On Aug 21, 2023
Kobojunkie:
How many of those died over 2000 years ago? undecided
The guy said Martin Luther died hundreds of centuries ago. grin

Then he said Josephus wrote hundreds of decades after Jesus died. grin

The concept of time is alien to him.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 2:59pm On Aug 21, 2023
[quote author=OasisX post=125259655][font=serif]I pray IPOB [UGM] are stopped now before its too late. Killing Yoruba people in Igboland won't end well.


seen how Yoruba's are killing hausas and fulanis in the SW nau
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 3:00pm On Aug 21, 2023
BlueRayDick:
I can see u are seriously in the business of shifting goal post; u don carry martin Luther enter matter while u never finish Josephus matter grin

U didn't answer of the 3 questions posed in the mail below u quoted. Perhaps u didn't see them, oya see them here again:

1. When did Christianity become state religion in Rome?
2. When year was Josephus born?
3. When did Josephus write his account of Jesus' history?

I'm expecting ur response .
the burden of prove dey ur hand. na u dey make claim say biblical jesus existed in real life.

prove it with evidence.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 3:02pm On Aug 21, 2023
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
the burden of prove dey ur hand. na u dey make claim say biblical jesus existed in real life.

prove it with evidence.
grin grin grin grin

Just what I was expecting .

Enjoy the rest of ur day bro
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 3:03pm On Aug 21, 2023
liveLongNprospa:
I've seen how Yoruba's are killing hausas and fulanis in the SW nau
...Ooops! Never knew its a reprisal attack.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 3:05pm On Aug 21, 2023
OasisX:
...Ooops! Never knew its a reprisal attack.
You make it difficult omo.. Very difficult 😩
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 3:06pm On Aug 21, 2023
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
I did & ofcox i saw the betrayer/fraudster called josephus who probably wrote for the highest bidder.


are u saying that all the writers/historians/scholars throughout the Roman empire were murdered during the era that jesus existed?

nobody 2 give us an eyewitnese acct? lol
The ministry of Jesus lasted just 3.5years, his entire life was 33years. That's a short time for any scribe to notice him before even deciding to keep any records. The event that actually spread the news about him was his resurrection. Hence, any eye witness account will logically take place after his death. However, there were eye witnesses that informed writers about him. For example, Saul that has been mentioned wrote extensively about him, Saul himself was a Jewish scribe who met with the disciples when he visited Jerusalem. Josephus and Tacitus met with fellow Jews who knew Jesus and they gave their accounts which was actually recorded to spite his followers. What they didn't know was that God used them for us.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Kobojunkie: 3:07pm On Aug 21, 2023
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Rome was an empire bro. Xtianity became d popular religion cox it promote the doctrine of "divine rule" which favor the roman emperor.. no questions, easy loyalty, total control. If that is what will bring peace & prosperity in the empire, fvck it, nobody cares abt d xtians they killed in the past. A state cares only abt her interest
Interesting claims you make! Britannica instead has it that the doctrine in question can be traced back to medieval European conception of God...
The divine right to rule, also known as the “divine right of kings,” is a political doctrine asserting that monarchs derive their authority from God and cannot be held accountable for their actions by human means. The divine-right theory can be traced to the medieval European conception that God awarded earthly power to the political authority and spiritual power to church authorities.

https://www.britannica.com/question/What-is-the-divine-right-to-rule-in-a-monarchy
.. not Rome. undecided
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 3:07pm On Aug 21, 2023
OasisX:
....feel free to code it as you wish bro.
[color=royalblue]Na you type, na you dey ask me to assume.

What exactly won't end well?[/color]
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 3:12pm On Aug 21, 2023
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
the burden of prove dey ur hand. na u dey make claim say biblical jesus existed in real life.

prove it with evidence.
He gave you evidence, that's Josephus and Tacitus. Yours now is to bring counter evidence
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Emaprince: 3:13pm On Aug 21, 2023
[quote author=OasisX post=125259655][font=serif]I pray IPOB [UGM] are stopped now before its too late. Killing Yoruba people in Igboland won't end well.


even know what to make of the video. Those criminals in the east already deserves to be dealt with and ended.

But careful listening to the guy..he said

"We let the other one go because say na igbo"? Lol. The same people that have been killing igbos and prominent igbos are now sparing igbo lives because they have a yoruba man with them? He even said "we go chop am" to give credence to the allegations of cannibalism. Lol. Because you be Tinubu brother?

Then he eneded with " thank you for watching". Whole thing looks scripted and with APC penchant for taking every desperate route to make everything about the election tribal, makes the video suspect. Attention need to be diverted from the judiciary.

Which terrorist group in this country have ever held a hostage and claimed it is cos his/her tribe?

However, this video needs to be taken seriously. These guys, whether real or not, needs to be wiped out.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 3:14pm On Aug 21, 2023
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Rome was an empire bro. Xtianity became d popular religion cox it promote the doctrine of "divine rule" which favor the roman emperor.. no questions, easy loyalty, total control.

If that is what will bring peace & prosperity in the empire, fvck it, nobody cares abt d xtians they killed in the past. A state cares only abt her interest
Judaism and even all medieval religions accepted divine rule. That cannot be the basis of what you are talking about. Tell us what led to adoption of Christianity as Roman state religion. Clue: use Google cool
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 3:20pm On Aug 21, 2023
Emaprince:
Don't even know what to make of the video. Those criminals in the east already deserves to be dealt with and ended.

But careful listening to the guy..he said

"We let the other one go because say na igbo"? Lol. The same people that have been killing igbos and prominent igbos are now sparing igbo lives because they have a yoruba man with them? He even said "we go chop am" to give credence to the allegations of cannibalism. Lol. Because you be Tinubu brother?

Then he eneded with " thank you for watching". Whole thing looks scripted and with APC penchant for taking every desperate route to make everything about the election tribal, makes the video suspect. Attention need to be diverted from the judiciary.

Which terrorist group in this country have ever held a hostage and claimed it is cos his/her tribe?

However, this video needs to be taken seriously. These guys, whether real or not, needs to be wiped out.
....Thank You.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 3:20pm On Aug 21, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Interesting claims you make! Britannica instead has it that the doctrine in question can be traced back to medieval European conception of God...
.. not Rome.
i said that xtianity promote the doctrine of divine right 2 rule.. na u dey do tracing. if u like trace it 2 Benin empire or d persian empire.
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