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Re: So You Think Nigeria Will One Day Become A Great Country? How? by Wisereborn: 6:26pm On Aug 26, 2023
tonicyril:
comon common sense to assimilate and interprete u no get, did I say anything bad??
You didn't say anything sensible either

So rate yourself while at it, give yaself home training

Your joke is on you!!!
Re: So You Think Nigeria Will One Day Become A Great Country? How? by Liverpool456(m): 6:31pm On Aug 26, 2023
Nice topic.Strengthening the instistutions of government would av help a great deal but the current politicians would rather die than do that to enable their corrupt practices.Obansanjo tried in going after corrupt individuals,Johnathan was Ekuke,am sure Yara dua would have tried,Obi/Datti would have tried too but u see this current one,they are saying:na chop I chop government.How do I even explain the meaning of chop I chop government to my children without sounding stupid?Am not igbo u can insult me if u like our generation must be liberated.
Re: So You Think Nigeria Will One Day Become A Great Country? How? by helinues: 6:44pm On Aug 26, 2023
Wisereborn:
Comprehend what you cannot make anything out ofhuh grin grin

Make my IQ reducehuh 😁😆😁😄 Abeg ooo
Something that is non available. How could make use of it?

Eish
Re: So You Think Nigeria Will One Day Become A Great Country? How? by DaChosenOne: 7:27pm On Aug 26, 2023
Gustavowhite:
not the north but Yoruba
They support every wrong as far it’s not against their own
The North contributes nothing to Nigeria. Yoruba people are some of the successful and brilliant Nigerians. Science, Technology and the Arts. Nigeria's richest states are Yoruba states. The North needs to destroyed. Then Islam and Arab culture banned!
Re: So You Think Nigeria Will One Day Become A Great Country? How? by Sangoamadioha1: 9:20pm On Aug 26, 2023
plaetton:
I guess you mean that common sense, patriotism, prudent economic planning and management, constitutional democracy and the rule of law are all western solutions that cannot work in Africa.
RIGHT?

Well, So far, that has proven to be correct.
So maybe we should abandon civilization entirely and just live like animals.
Does civilization mean copying the west. Africans by our heritage and culture are more socialist in ideology than capitalism which is a western culture. Our economic model should be socialist in nature. That is looking at your peculiarities to resolve your challenges and not just copying in the name of civilization.
Re: So You Think Nigeria Will One Day Become A Great Country? How? by Okoroawusa: 9:30pm On Aug 26, 2023
Gidgiddy you have to be specific about the country you are talking about... last time I checked you were an IPOB member and Nnamdi Kanu supporter
Re: So You Think Nigeria Will One Day Become A Great Country? How? by plaetton: 2:41am On Aug 27, 2023
Sangoamadioha1:
Does civilization mean copying the west. Africans by our heritage and culture are more socialist in ideology than capitalism which is a western culture. Our economic model should be socialist in nature. That is looking at your peculiarities to resolve your challenges and not just copying in the name of civilization.
First of all, kindly name any tribe in Nigeria whose economic culture was socialism. And I hope you understand the meaning of socialism.

Secondly, If you name any country on earth were socialism has succeeded as an economic model, I would be willing to listen you a bit more.

The funny but sad thing about Africa, with Nigeria as a good example, is that we continue to fail at every single subject , every year, and rather than do a thorough self- examination, we keep blaming our teachers and our schools for not being good enough.

We blame slavery, colonialism, neo-colonialism. We blame the free market capitalism ,and then we blame the democratic system of government as not being suitable enough for us, even though the free market system and democratic system of government is working very well for our ThirdWorld peers, who were also previously colonized like us.
If we were a child, we would be treated as a dysfunctional child with learning disabilities.
And that's the bitter truth we should be telling ourselves.
Re: So You Think Nigeria Will One Day Become A Great Country? How? by Nobody: 3:26am On Aug 27, 2023
DaChosenOne:
The North contributes nothing to Nigeria. Yoruba people are some of the successful and brilliant Nigerians. Science, Technology and the Arts. Nigeria's richest states are Yoruba states. The North needs to destroyed. Then Islam and Arab culture banned!
That fool from the SE wants to attack Yoruba and you think we can be one with them? How many northerners are making post wanting to hurt Yoruba? Only them
Re: So You Think Nigeria Will One Day Become A Great Country? How? by Ofodirinwa: 3:30am On Aug 27, 2023
DaChosenOne:
Nigeria needs to get rid of the North. Bomb and sterilise them. Then make Islam illegal. Then Nigeria needs to build a wall separating Nigeria from the Islamic/Arabicized Sahel. Nigeria Then needs to build strong ties with Israel, China and other important countries for better development.
The SW is Muslim too
Re: So You Think Nigeria Will One Day Become A Great Country? How? by Sangoamadioha1: 8:54am On Aug 27, 2023
plaetton:
First of all, kindly name any tribe in Nigeria whose economic culture was socialism. And I hope you understand the meaning of socialism.

Secondly, If you name any country on earth were socialism has succeeded as an economic model, I would be willing to listen you a bit more.

The funny but sad thing about Africa, with Nigeria as a good example, is that we continue to fail at every single subject , every year, and rather than do a thorough self- examination, we keep blaming our teachers and our schools for not being good enough.

We blame slavery, colonialism, neo-colonialism. We blame the free market capitalism ,and then we blame the democratic system of government as not being suitable enough for us, even though the free market system and democratic system of government is working very well for our ThirdWorld peers, who were also previously colonized like us.
If we were a child, we would be treated as a dysfunctional child with learning disabilities.
And that's the bitter truth we should be telling ourselves.
I should be asking you if you know what socialism is if you dont know that Africans practice socialism as a cultural norm.
Capitalism and democracy are western cultures not suited for us. Please show me one African country doing well with pure capitalism and democracy, just one example.


An example of African society that practiced socialism and succeeded is Libya (Gaddafi's era). There are other examples but let's start with this.
Re: So You Think Nigeria Will One Day Become A Great Country? How? by plaetton: 9:25am On Aug 27, 2023
Sangoamadioha1:
I should be asking you if you know what socialism is if you dont know that Africans practice socialism as a cultural norm.
Capitalism and democracy are western cultures not suited for us. Please show me one African country doing well with pure capitalism and democracy, just one example.


An example of African society that practiced socialism and succeeded is Libya (Gaddafi's era). There are other examples but let's start with this.
Ha ha ha.
I challenged you to show proof of something, and then you throw it back at me to show you proof of the opposite.
Very very brilliant grin

You failed to give me even one single example of a precolonial culture in Nigeria that practiced socialism, an obvious repudiation of your earlier statement.
Congratulations! You just scored an F in common sense, and an A+ in fragmented thinking.

As for Libya being your example of a successful socialist nation, that is soooo laughable.
I actually feel a tad embarrassed just reading such nonsense in defense of Africa's perennial failures in governance in a public forum.
Re: So You Think Nigeria Will One Day Become A Great Country? How? by Sangoamadioha1: 9:41am On Aug 27, 2023
plaetton:
Ha ha ha.
I challenged you to show proof of something, and then you throw it back at me to show you proof of the opposite.
Very very brilliant grin

You failed to give me even one single example of a precolonial culture in Nigeria that practiced socialism, an obvious repudiation of your earlier statement.
Congratulations! You just scored an F in common sense, and an A+ in fragmented thinking.

As for Libya being your example of a successful socialist nation, that is soooo laughable.
I actually feel a tad embarrassed just reading such nonsense in defense of Africa's perennial failures in governance in a public forum.
In the olden days, the community will give you land to farm. You and your age grades will work on each others farms. You give some parts of your produce to the community. The community in turn helps those that need help with these contributions.
Now lie to yourself if this is not how the average African society is before the white man.
Like I said, you don't know the meaning of socialism.
Re: So You Think Nigeria Will One Day Become A Great Country? How? by plaetton: 9:46am On Aug 27, 2023
Sangoamadioha1:
In the olden days, the community will give you land to farm. You and your age grades will work on each others farms. You give some parts of your produce to the community. The community in turn helps those that need help with these contributions.
Now lie to yourself if this is not how the average African society is before the white man.
Like I said, you don't know the meaning of socialism.
Where exactly was this practiced ?
Name the place and time, please.
Re: So You Think Nigeria Will One Day Become A Great Country? How? by Sangoamadioha1: 9:52am On Aug 27, 2023
plaetton:
Where exactly was this practiced ?
Name the place and time, please.
And the guy does not even know about his culture. Go and read up about African culture before the white man came. As an advocate of capitalism, you should be able to pay for your knowledge, so i refuse to educate you for free.
Re: So You Think Nigeria Will One Day Become A Great Country? How? by plaetton: 9:59am On Aug 27, 2023
Sangoamadioha1:
And the guy does not even know about his culture. Go and read up about African culture before the white man came. As an advocate of capitalism, you should be able to pay for your knowledge, so i refuse to educate you for free.
This guy can't be serious.
This is not happening huh

You postulated something.
I only asked for where and when it happened, and you cannot even show me ? You're asking me to read up on African culture?
Are you kidding me ?

My dear friend, now I know why you failed most of your courses. grin

I find it very amusing that people come to a public forum to pontificate on issues for which they have half-baked knowledge and zero verifiable facts.
Re: So You Think Nigeria Will One Day Become A Great Country? How? by Sangoamadioha1: 10:15am On Aug 27, 2023
plaetton:
This guy can't be serious.
This is not happening huh

You postulated something.
I only asked for where and when it happened, and you cannot even show me ? You're asking me to read up on African culture?
Are you kidding me ?

My dear friend, now I know why you failed most of your courses. grin

I find it very amusing that people come to a public forum to pontificate on issues for which they have half-baked knowledge and zero verifiable facts.
Try all these on a less intelligent person. You are ignorant of the issue you are arguing about but hiding under a facade of false superiority.
I thought i would even gain some knowledge from you through your thought process but I never knew i was wasting my time with a dullard with a superiority complex.
I am through with you.
Re: So You Think Nigeria Will One Day Become A Great Country? How? by plaetton: 10:27am On Aug 27, 2023
Sangoamadioha1:
Try all these on a less intelligent person. You are ignorant of the issue you are arguing about but hiding under a facade of false superiority.
I thought i would even gain some knowledge from you through your thought process but I never knew i was wasting my time with a dullard with a superiority complex.
I am through with you.
Laughing out loudly. grin

Capitulation by any other pretenses is still Capitulation.
Re: So You Think Nigeria Will One Day Become A Great Country? How? by DeepSight(m): 12:59am On Aug 28, 2023
plaetton:
We blame slavery, colonialism, neo-colonialism.
These three things are a huge part of the explanation for where we are today - but please note that I hasten to add that I do not say this as any excuse. We have utterly failed and need to brace up and take responsibility and do better.

I just wish to note that people often tend to dismiss the impact of these three things in retarding Africa.

Long time bro.
Re: So You Think Nigeria Will One Day Become A Great Country? How? by DeepSight(m): 1:06am On Aug 28, 2023
plaetton:
Where exactly was this practiced ?
Name the place and time, please.
I believe it is fair enough if Sangoamadioha1 says that some of the pre-colonial societal arrangements in Africa were socialist or akin to socialism.

Not all, just some. There were actually very warlike and predatory African Empires and States all over the place. Also many were trade kingdoms with a highly mercantile nature. There were also despots and blood thirsty tyrants.
Re: So You Think Nigeria Will One Day Become A Great Country? How? by plaetton: 3:17am On Aug 28, 2023
DeepSight:
I believe it is fair enough if Sangoamadioha1 says that some of the pre-colonial societal arrangements in Africa were socialist or akin to socialism.

Not all, just some. There were actually very warlike and predatory African Empires and States all over the place. Also many were trade kingdoms with a highly mercantile nature. There were also despots and blood thirsty tyrants.
Agreed.
But any society where there is private ownership of land and property, and where goods are traded for profit, cannot be classified as socialist. Socialism itself is a modern concept, a reactionary ideal.

In order to say that free market capitalism is somehow bad for us, one should be able to show a comparable system, and that system has to have been successful somewhere at some time.
The free-market system is an equal opportunity system that rewards the most efficient allocation of resources.
The so-called socialist system that puts power and control of resources in a few hands on behalf of the people cannot ever work in Africa, even if had ever worked anywhere else.
If free-market democracy, as imperfect as it , gives the masses the power to elect representative governance, and it still gives Africans the wicked and avaricious leaders, just imagine what it would look like if that same power and resources are allocated to even fewer hands on behalf of the citizens.

What I find particularly dumbfounded and annoying is this rehashing of a very very old and stale song of how the west is responsible for our woes. African leaders have caused more wholesale destruction of the African dream that the colonialist ever did.
Even the colonial economic , infrastructural and administrative legacies left behind have been totally obliterated by successive regimes of wicked African leaders.
How can anyone look at daily events in Nigeria, a Dystopian Paradise, and still be able to point fingers at the west?
Re: So You Think Nigeria Will One Day Become A Great Country? How? by plaetton: 3:28am On Aug 28, 2023
DeepSight:
These three things are a huge part of the explanation for where we are today - but please note that I hasten to add that I do not say this as any excuse. We have utterly failed and need to brace up and take responsibility and do better.

I just wish to note that people often tend to dismiss the impact of these three things in retarding Africa.

Long time bro.
Long time indeed.
My salutations to you wordy sire grin

That colonialism existed and that the west still exert negative influences in Africa are facts etched in stone. No one can dispute these facts.
But, remember that our leaders fought hard to wrestle power and control of resources from the colonial powers. They fought hard because of the promise of controlling our own destiny for the future generations of Africans. Over the past 6 decades, what can we look and say that our leaders have achieved for us since we started controlling our own destiny? Zero.
Instead of bread and milk that they promised, our leaders have offered us stone. And rather than for us to do genuine self-reflection, we are today still pretending that we are redoing the jobs that Azikiwe, Awolowo, Herbert Macaulay , Nkrumah, etc, had already done 60yrs ago.

My fear is that in the next 30yrs , our children would still be singing this same old, stale song.
Re: So You Think Nigeria Will One Day Become A Great Country? How? by Sangoamadioha1: 8:21am On Aug 28, 2023
DeepSight:
I believe it is fair enough if Sangoamadioha1 says that some of the pre-colonial societal arrangements in Africa were socialist or akin to socialism.

Not all, just some. There were actually very warlike and predatory African Empires and States all over the place. Also many were trade kingdoms with a highly mercantile nature. There were also despots and blood thirsty tyrants.
I agree that some and not all African societies were socialist inclined but my argument is those with a foundational culture of socialism would find it easier developing their societies through socialism rather than aping the white man's culture of total capitalism.
Re: So You Think Nigeria Will One Day Become A Great Country? How? by Uchek(m): 4:31am On Sep 01, 2023
U comment shows that u don’t even know how Dubai became the inspiring and acclaimed Dubai of today. Anambra does not have the political & economic independence Dubai had to become what it is today. Even Lagos which enjoys undue advantage cannot be Dubai. So why expect Anambra to be.
OLODO RABATA!


tonicyril:
No a rocket science..

In as much as Anambra became a dubai under Peter Obi, nothing God can not do grin
Re: So You Think Nigeria Will One Day Become A Great Country? How? by Uchek(m): 4:33am On Sep 01, 2023
You said the same thing with Buhari presidency.


helinues:
You are the one who has given up about everything considering your activities on this forum.

I understand the frustration of supporting things that are meant to be doomed for almost a decade not to talk of shattered dream of Utopia Biafra

Better Nigeria with Tinubu's presidency
Re: So You Think Nigeria Will One Day Become A Great Country? How? by tonicyril: 1:38pm On Sep 06, 2023
Uchek:
U comment shows that u don’t even know how Dubai became the inspiring and acclaimed Dubai of today. Anambra does not have the political & economic independence Dubai had to become what it is today. Even Lagos which enjoys undue advantage cannot be Dubai. So why expect Anambra to be.
OLODO RABATA!
Piig how far

U lak sen.se grin grin grin
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