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Dtruthspeaker:
Your twisted eye no let you dey see. My talk dey very clear and e no get where I talk say Jesus no join. E no even normal for anybody to stretch am reach there. Your twisty-twisty no dey let you see wetin dey your front.

Dtruthspeaker:
Schweppes! E no reach say I talk say make dem show chook mouth for d mata?

Prosper1912:
No be u talk dat thing for my screenshot below

Dtruthspeaker:
See am there.

I talk say 2 People dey there Papa God and Pikin God Who we dey Call Jesus Christ.

So he no get how you for twist am and stretch am to kon say I talk say "Jesus no join ". E no get

Prosper1912:
So @Dtruthspeaker u agree say the word na Jesus Christ?
Yes or no

Dtruthspeaker:
Wetin I talk dey dia for efribody to see no need for reargument. You don talk your own I don talk my own, now na for others to chook moutth for d mata!

Prosper1912:
And that god is Jesus Christ.

So that word which is Jesus Christ was with GoD(Jehovah) from the beginning of creation

So let me rephrase john 1verse 1 again.

In the beginning was the Word(Jesus), and the Word(Jesus) was with God, and the Word(Jesus )was a god.

Emusan:
By doing this, you mean there are TWO GODS who created the universe.

Allthelight:
Jesus didnot call himself "Angel micheal"
At any point.

Witness say jesus is too limited because he does what his father wants...

But forget there was never a time jesus hide what he felt, pains, anger, sorrow, hopelessness.


Jesus even prayed and asked us to ( another question that can't be answered is if Jesus said he is the resurrection and the life then why pray ?).
You now see the mysteries about Jesus, alot of folks who claim they know God trying to change the bible.

I personally do not like arguing with witnesses...

Even the father didnot call Jesus "Angel micheal" he called him his son.

Do they claim to know more than God ?

Oga, which angel is not son of God?


Angels are ministers, Hebrews 1:14.
Matthew 20:28, is Jesus Christ a minister?
1 Corinthians 15:22,45 NLT, is Jesus Christ a spirit ministering to your salvation?

1 Thessalonians 4:16 & John 5:28, did Jesus voice resurrect the dead?

Who is the serpent @ Genesis 3:15 & Revelation 12:7-9?
Who is the seed of Genesis 3:15 made manifest by John @ 1 John 3:8/ Revelation 12:7-9 to defeat the serpent?


Do you realize that Jesus Christ is a morning Star?
Do you realize that morning Stars are angels?

Jesus Christ is archangel Michael.
Kponkwem.

delkuf:
I had this argument recently with a jw and he showed me some bible verses that angel Michael is Jesus Christ. I must confess this guy almost won me and over with his argument. So I want to ask, can anyone bring out bible verses to refute this claim.



I believe that the Lord Jesus Christ can never be angel Michael. I just want bible verses to refute this because the jw is coming on Saturday to continue this argument

Janosky:
Oga, which angel is not son of
Jesus Christ is archangel Michael.
Kponkwem.

Janosky:
Oga, which angel is not son of God?


Angels are ministers, Hebrews 1:14.
Matthew 20:28, is Jesus Christ a minister?
1 Corinthians 15:22,45 NLT, is Jesus Christ a spirit ministering to your salvation?

1 Thessalonians 4:16 & John 5:28, did Jesus voice resurrect the dead?

Who is the serpent @ Genesis 3:15 & Revelation 12:7-9?
Who is the seed of Genesis 3:15 made manifest by John @ 1 John 3:8/ Revelation 12:7-9 to defeat the serpent?


Do you realize that Jesus Christ is a morning Star?
Do you realize that morning Stars are angels?

Jesus Christ is archangel Michael.
Kponkwem.

Allthelight:
An Angel died for you lets forget about it

For your questions Jesus has complete power over sin and death.
Angels don't, take time and study about Jesus ( you wont be done even in a year).

You will understand why your organisation lied to you. Read about the war in heaven you will know even angels don't have such powers.

[b] i will take you serious when you quote all he said[\b]

[b]For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers [\b]


Again Jesus has answered all these questions don't be decieved.

Angels are not weak they were involved in the entire ministry of Jesus, but Jesus is not an angel

Allthelight:
And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

In the war there were six characters
The devil and his angels
Micheal
The blood of the lamb
Their words
Love
And death

The weapon used were the blood of the lamb and their own words.

How do they explain this ? I thing this should be explained not that micheal story

Prosper1912:
Yeah
U seem more reasonable than the other
May I know yr religion

Janosky:
Oga, which angel is not son of God?


Angels are ministers, Hebrews 1:14.
Matthew 20:28, is Jesus Christ a minister?
1 Corinthians 15:22,45 NLT, is Jesus Christ a spirit ministering to your salvation?

1 Thessalonians 4:16 & John 5:28, did Jesus voice resurrect the dead?

Who is the serpent @ Genesis 3:15 & Revelation 12:7-9?
Who is the seed of Genesis 3:15 made manifest by John @ 1 John 3:8/ Revelation 12:7-9 to defeat the serpent?


Do you realize that Jesus Christ is a morning Star?
Do you realize that morning Stars are angels?

Jesus Christ is archangel Michael.
Kponkwem.

Allthelight:
And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

In the war there were six characters
The devil and his angels
Micheal
The blood of the lamb
Their words
Love
And death

The weapon used were the blood of the lamb and their own words.

How do they explain this ? I think this should be explained not that micheal story

Courz:
What a very useless comment! Did you just smoke igbo before typing this rubbish?

You are using this very useless logic that says Sons of God are angels. So, you have forgotten that followers of Christ are also Sons of God. Won't you also say you are a Son of God? Is God not your Father? So, does that mean you are now an Angel because you are a Son Of God? Ewu Gambia!

Next time you want to type, Stop smoking Igbo. Re Read what you typed, think, analyse before you press Submit. Mumu Janosky aka SubPlot aka the Iberibe Master aka Janonsense. See the nonsense you typed just to diminish my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

Prosper1912:
@ courz
JESUS Christ na angel?
Yes or No

Courz:
Mumu, go back to the first page and read my comments. Why are you asking me a question that I have already answered? Are you this lazy to read a Thread? Is this what you are taught in a Kingdom hall? Don't they teach you how to read? What is wrong with you?

Prosper1912:
Yr bother say nor be angel

Prosper1912:
Yr bother say nor be angel

Janosky:
The IBERIBEIST wants you to go back to his LYING IBERIBEISM which has been exposed and debunked by the holy scriptures.

Dtruthspeaker:
See jw speaking with reservation on the matter

Jude expressly shows that Arc Michael is less than Jesus.

But when the archangel Michael contended with the Devil and disputed about the body of Moses, he did not dare to bring a condemnation of slander against him, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!" (Jude 9).

And Who is The Lord?

Jesus is The Lord!

Michael is obviously not the Lord. He could not rebuke the Devil on his own, but rather called upon the Lord to rebuke him. Jesus has no such problem with the Devil - He personally rebuked him, since He is the Lord.

Then Jesus said to him, "Away with you, Satan! For it is written, 'You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve.' " Then the Devil left Him, and behold, angels came and began to minister to Him (Matthew 4:10,11).

And in John 8. Jesus directly calls Satan a Liar thereby bringing a condemnation of slander on Satan. What Arc Michael could not do.

John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

No, Sir.

Another lie of LYING DSpeaker

What is the evidence that DSpeaker was LYING?
Jude 1:9 is a quote COPIED from Zechariah 3:2.

Zechariah 3:2 " the angel said "the Lord JEHOVAH rebuke you."



Jesus the angel of the Lord JEHOVAH quoted Zechariah 3:2 (from the old testament) in Jude 1:9.
The same manner Jesus Christ quoted Mark 12:29 from Deuteronomy 6:4.

Courz:
So, Mumu Janosky can agree with his biggest enemies which are Trinitarians? This is shocking! What does your Freemason Watchtower think about this?

Mumu Janosky, if Jesus is an archangel simply because he is coming with an Archangel's voice, is he also a commanding shout and a trumpet of God since he is also coming with those too? You are afraid to answer me abi?

MUMU WAILER desperatel TWISTING 1 Thess 4:16.

"The lord himself is coming with an Archangel's voice...
The lord himself is coming with a commanding shout
The lord himself is coming with trumpet of God."


3 tasks performed by Jesus Christ @1 Thess 4:16.
Courz LYING IBERIBEISM

Janosky:
MUMU WAILER desperatel TWISTING 1 Thess 4:16.

"The lord himself is coming with an Archangel's voice...
The lord himself is coming with a commanding shout
The lord himself is coming with trumpet of God."


3 tasks performed by Jesus Christ @1 Thess 4:16.
Courz LYING IBERIBEISM

Allthelight:
Jesus didnot call himself "Angel micheal"
At any point.

Witness say jesus is too limited because he does what his father wants...

But forget there was never a time jesus hide what he felt, pains, anger, sorrow, hopelessness.


Jesus even prayed and asked us to ( another question that can't be answered is if Jesus said he is the resurrection and the life then why pray ?).
You now see the mysteries about Jesus, alot of folks who claim they know God trying to change the bible.

I personally do not like arguing with witnesses...

Even the father didnot call Jesus "Angel micheal" he called him his son.

Do they claim to know more than God ?

Dtruthspeaker:
The Book of Jude says:

But when the archangel Michael contended with the Devil and disputed about the body of Moses, he did not dare to bring a condemnation of slander against him, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!" (Jude 9).

And Who is The Lord?

Jesus is The Lord!

Michael is obviously not the Lord. He could not rebuke the Devil on his own, but rather called upon the Lord to rebuke him. Jesus has no such problem with the Devil - He personally rebuked him, since He is the Lord.

Then Jesus said to him, "Away with you, Satan! For it is written, 'You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve.' " Then the Devil left Him, and behold, angels came and began to minister to Him (Matthew 4:10,11).

You have to learn the laws of making a valid argument to beat anyone for God has made it so that "THERE IS NO VALID ARGUMENT AGAINST THE TRUTH."

So you need to know when people are making an invalid argument. Not every reasonable sounding argument is valid that is what The Law of Falls popularly called fall'acy (fallabiility) is all about.

And devils always argue by committing the fall of off point/change of issue or topic or post by using style to slide from the issue of the argument to another.

So watch their words keeping in eye the issue of argument and cut them off as soon as they slide away from the issue. That is why you always see me raising change of post or off point.

Because, if you stick to the issue, you will clearly see that they do not have a valid answer to the issue.

Not every reasonable sounding argument is valid!

Janosky:
MUMU WAILER desperatel TWISTING 1 Thess 4:16.

"The lord himself is coming with an Archangel's voice...
The lord himself is coming with a commanding shout
The lord himself is coming with trumpet of God."


3 tasks performed by Jesus Christ @1 Thess 4:16.
Courz LYING IBERIBEISM