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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Shaytun: 2:31pm On Sep 06, 2023
No dissenting judgements.

This will be the first in the history of Nigeria presidential Election petition where judgement is unanimous.

Just go to show how weak and nonsense the petitioner case was.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Oasis003: 2:32pm On Sep 06, 2023
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Shaytun: 2:33pm On Sep 06, 2023
On the allegations made by the LP that President Tinubu was not qualified to contest in view of the $460k fine in relation to narcotics charges in the US, the court held that trial and conviction by a court is the only way to prove guilt.

The case was a civil forfeiture case as it is a unique remedy which rests on the property being the target and not the person.

The case was in the civil docket of the United state north district court Illinois.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Oasis003: 2:39pm On Sep 06, 2023
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 2:40pm On Sep 06, 2023
Itsrm:


Now, just take away whatever impression of the judges you have and look at this from an objective standpoint.

If LP does not have the document(evidence), how were they hoping to convince the judges?

Bros it's a simple thing..
The same judges talking were there when inec refused to produce ctc of materials.
Abi you've forgotten the dilly dallying that occurred when inec was asked to produce them?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by monerozi5590: 2:41pm On Sep 06, 2023
Itsrm:


If I did not watch this thing live and just heard the judgment, I would have laughed it off that I never expected anything different.

Obis lawyers no just try. If possible, they should be made to refund every penny they collected.


Thank you. I just pray many Nigerians are watching it and no one should play with their emotions/senses to do what they ain't suppose to do.

This simple means there's insufficient evidences that LP/ PDP won the election and the justices can't do otherwise.

No prosecutable evidence against the man Tinubu. Their judgement is based on evidences before them and they can't do otherwise.

Even if PDP/LP had won the election truly but no evidence to prove that, the justices can't rule in their favour.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nostradamus1: 2:43pm On Sep 06, 2023
Amigoss:


Add all this to APC file, collect wig and gown,make you go join APC lawyers for court 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

Hello.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nostradamus1: 2:44pm On Sep 06, 2023
Nostradamus1:



I will set the facts straight for all unbiased readers and call out your lying
Facts.

1:Tinubu legally challenged the case in competent court of law. This means that your first statement is disingenious and very well misinformation. You made it look like one must be present to legally represented

2 The second statement doesn't make any sense.
What is the "costs " of prosecuting a case that can net US $1.8m?
Was Tinubu reachable?
Was his lawyer represented?
Was his company(Mobil ) represented?
Was any of the defendant represented?
Was there any hearing?

How did the prosecutor simply decide to this these? Any evidence?


3 Here is the frozen/ forfeiture argument of yours. I remember pointing out that Russia frozen assets will simply be returned after USA takes $500k based on your story. There are several types of forfeiture. When an asset is frozen, $500k is collected when their is no judicial involvement (Administrative Forfeiture). There was a hearing in Tinubu's case: It was definitely not an administrative forfeiture since we all have access to court documents.

You lied again. The USA could have taken everything as not all forfeiture has a $500k limit.




NB; Anyone more familiar with the US justice system can correct me I am wrong

I have never taken a law class in my life but it is clear to even an idiot that Civil forfeiture/administrative forfeiture is different from criminal forfeiture.

Many reasonable people here already knew the decision of the court from the day the petition was filed

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nostradamus1: 2:46pm On Sep 06, 2023
Shaytun:
On the allegations made by the LP that President Tinubu was not qualified to contest in view of the $460k fine in relation to narcotics charges in the US, the court held that trial and conviction by a court is the only way to prove guilt.

The case was a civil forfeiture case as it is a unique remedy which rests on the property being the target and not the person.

The case was in the civil docket of the United state north district court Illinois.

They should have flogged the LP lawyers for this particular petition

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 2:46pm On Sep 06, 2023
Roland17:
LP (Obi) and PDP (Atiku) should save Nigerians the stress and plan for the next election cycle instead of going to the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court is not going to overturn this judgement as their prayers to the court is weak.

Lmao.. How do they provide enough evidence asked by the same court when the umpire refused to provide what they have? 😂😂😂.
You sef check am nau
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nostradamus1: 2:47pm On Sep 06, 2023
liveLongNprospa:


Bros it's a simple thing..
The same judges talking were there when inec refused to produce ctc of materials.
Abi you've forgotten the dilly dallying that occurred when inec was asked to produce them?
Disingenuous again.


The tribunal won't have passed judgement if INEC "still" haven't given LP the papers if they paid.

And for a fact, LP got their papers

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Shaytun: 2:48pm On Sep 06, 2023
For the purposes of the Presidential Election, the constitution states that the entire country is a SINGLE constituency.

A vote in Sokoto is equal to a vote in Abuja is equal to a vote in Lagos.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amigoss: 2:51pm On Sep 06, 2023
Nostradamus1:


Hello.


Hi, back from hustling for giveaways across social media platforms? Good to have you back....
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Oasis003: 2:52pm On Sep 06, 2023
grin

Peter Obi must sue his Lawyers. LOL!

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amigoss: 2:52pm On Sep 06, 2023
Lol,why Abuja no get governor and 3 senators....

Same vote indeed...
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nostradamus1: 2:52pm On Sep 06, 2023
Blaming INEC for evidence. In the plaintiff's final submission, did he request "again" that INEC should dutifully release certain materials?


INEC gave LP the papers. The problem is that LP has a shit administration. The papers that INEC submitted to the court and LP was accurate enough with the ones LP agents submitted.


Also recall that LP had to open a FB ROI page to gather PU copies from their agent. It is these copies from their agent that could have been used to protest the results. They either didn't have them or it tallied with INEC result.


It is also silly and plain stupid to expect INEC to submit Copies that are not in tandem with the final results.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nostradamus1: 2:53pm On Sep 06, 2023
Amigoss:


Hi, back from hustling for giveaways across social media platforms? Good to have you back....
Thanks man

Needed to be here to remind you of the truth and distract you from crying.


How is the family?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 2:55pm On Sep 06, 2023
Itsrm:


Now, just take away whatever impression of the judges you have and look at this from an objective standpoint.

If LP does not have the document(evidence), how were they hoping to convince the judges?

But they provided the information that inec made available and that same material is said to not be a good enough evidence.

How can there be blurred result sheets uploaded by inec and the same inec and judges are saying what inec uploaded isn't good enough evidence.

Appeals go choke gan😁.
In the coming days we go settle down look everything well and break am down.
God keeping us alive
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Oasis003: 2:56pm On Sep 06, 2023
grin

There's no constitutional requirement that made it mandatory for INEC to transmit election results electronically or through iREV....."
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Shaytun: 2:56pm On Sep 06, 2023
INEC is at liberty to prescribe the manner with which election results should be collated. INEC is not mandated to electronically transmit or transfer election results.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nostradamus1: 2:57pm On Sep 06, 2023
Nostradamus1:
Funny that everyone is allowing you to spread misinformation but the bolded is wrong.
The INEC chairman stated that his primary duty is to announce the results. APC had 97 percent party agents of PUs. PDP had 99, LP 69.
First, it is no one's fault that LP is struggling with organization and communication issues. They are asking their agents to send the original PU result to a WhatsApp number on their Twitter account. This is information that should have arrived at the state situation room less than 2 hours after voting. The Partu agents should dispute the result at the National level instead of chasing shadows. How can you confirm that your agents signed the sheet at state level but you are looking for result to be uploaded first on IREV? How do you tell the electoral umpire to pause collation of votes?

Now, while the INEC chairman insisted on continuing was simply because every vote counted was validated with BVAS. So BVAS was used for the validation of votes and all votes counted were validated by it. The only issue it had was not being able to upload the result sheet..



If you go to court(probably the results have been uploaded) and it tallies with the collated one, you simply wasted your time. The Commission is also not mandated by law(I am quoting a professor of law on ChannelsTV) to first produce the uploaded sheet before announcing a winner. According to the electoral Act 2022, the returning officer(INEC chairman) has the right to make certain decisions provided a review is possible within a week.
In the same Electoral Act, there is no punishment for not uploading PU result except if it was done "willfully". Meaning that unless you criminally decided not to, then you didn't do anything wrong. Now you will need to prove criminal intent and motive.

Cc: Oasisx, larride, GloriousGbola and VoteTinubu2023


I urge you all to tackle certain false news. They make the election less about BAT's strategy and more about rigging. Certain people view this thread and we should not allow the uninformed run with this agenda

I mentioned it a far back as February


Where are Labor Party agents original result sheet?

Why did their agents sign and agree to manipulated results?

Use your brain if you have one
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Roland17(m): 3:06pm On Sep 06, 2023
liveLongNprospa:


Lmao.. How do they provide enough evidence asked by the same court when the umpire refused to provide what they have? 😂😂😂.
You sef check am nau

I don check am and my response to you is this. When you approach the court, the burden of proof rests on you to provide evidence. LP should know INEC wasn't going to support their cause to present any evidence that disproves the result of the election.

The Drug Case: When you approach the court, you present already stated facts as evidence not your interpretation or that of anyone outside the court. The Nigerian Police through the IGP had written to the US govt seeking clarification regarding Tinubu's criminal record and the US govt replied through a verified letter in 2003 that Tinubu had no criminal record in the United States, this is the fact the Tribunal worked with.

Except there is a new letter from the United States stating otherwise, or there is a new judgement from the case that criminally indicts Tinubu, I don't know why anyone in Obi's camp thought it was wise to approach the tribunal court seeking Tinubu's disqualification based on the drug case. Posting copies of the judgement and breaking it down based on our interpretation doesn't make us the US court or the US govt who said Tinubu has no criminal record.

You see what I mean? I can give you another example using his academic record.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amigoss: 3:10pm On Sep 06, 2023
Nostradamus1:
Thanks man

Needed to be here to remind you of the truth and distract you from crying.


How is the family?

Family is doing good bro....

Hope you gathered and saved enough from the crumbs you got from giveaways to feed yours,it must be hard to feed nowadays from the astronomical hike in prices of goods and services due to fuel subsidy removal...

What truth? Using threats and fraudulent means to win an election and asking them to go to court cos you have the judges in your back pocket and to throw cases out on technicalities? Lool,🤡🤡🤡🤡

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Shaytun: 3:10pm On Sep 06, 2023
Irev is not a collation system " iREV is to give the public a view of the election results on Election Day. - Court
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by seankafor(m): 3:15pm On Sep 06, 2023
Shaytun:
Irev is not a collation system " iREV is to give the public a view of the election results on Election Day. - Court
burna wastn playing when he say una must bow for the result oo

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 3:22pm On Sep 06, 2023
“INEC is at liberty to follow or depart from its Guidelines. It's not an issue of noncompliance with the EA”😂😂

And let the church say amennnn
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GrammarNazi1(m): 3:28pm On Sep 06, 2023
Amigoss:


Family is doing good bro....

Hope you gathered and saved enough from the crumbs you got from giveaways to feed yours,it must be hard to feed nowadays from the astronomical hike in prices of goods and services due to fuel subsidy removal...

What truth? Using threats and fraudulent means to win an election and asking them to go to court cos you have the judges in your back pocket and to throw cases out on technicalities? Lool,🤡🤡🤡🤡

Are you this pained?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nostradamus1: 3:30pm On Sep 06, 2023
Amigoss:


Family is doing good bro....

Hope you gathered and saved enough from the crumbs you got from giveaways to feed yours,it must be hard to feed nowadays from the astronomical hike in prices of goods and services due to fuel subsidy removal...

What truth? Using threats and fraudulent means to win an election and asking them to go to court cos you have the judges in your back pocket and to throw cases out on technicalities? Lool,🤡🤡🤡🤡


Which savings? I have nothing except garri😂.
Although,I am patiently waiting for my appointment to the inner BAT caucus.
As I no get car or generator, I wholeheartedly support the subsidy removal. Less noise pollution. Let the poor breathe.


If the current Obidients are honest,they should chase all their legal representatives for the silly mistakes.
Ordinary reading John Grisham will enlighten one on the need to use an independent professional as a witness with no party affiliation.

Why will the web lady witness be an LP member who had contested under the party?

Why didn't the Lawyers be honest with OBi about his chances and weakness of petition?

Lawyers have paralegals and assistants under them.
Why didn't any of them discover that even if Tinubu was a convicted criminal, it was over 10 years since his supposed conviction?

Why didn't their research show that as of 2003 when Tinubu was a small fry, the US already claimed he wasn't convicte[/b]d?


[b]Why did they add witnesses to their petition after submission?


Why concentrate on his certificate when the more serious crimes was that Tinubu committed perjury(although I don't think he can be sued on that again)?

Why didn't they withdraw a case after confirmation that INEC solely decides means of transmission?

Why didn't they submit Labor Party agents results sheet to prove that INEC sheets were wrong?


How did they expect the court to know Obi's real votes?

These are the questions that matters?

#AllEyesOnObiLawyers
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Oasis003: 3:31pm On Sep 06, 2023
grin

Victory for Democracy.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amigoss: 3:36pm On Sep 06, 2023
GrammarNazi1:

Are you this pained?

Ask google
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Oasis003: 3:36pm On Sep 06, 2023
TOP DECLARATION BY THE PRESIDENTIAL TRIBUNAL SO FAR:

●Senator Kashim Shettima Is Eligible To Contest.

●President Tinubu Academically Qualified To Contest For President.

●Frau*d Case Against President Tinubu's Not Proven

●President Tinubu was cleared of Drug Related Crimes In The U*S.

●Residents In Abuja Not Special, 25% In FCT Not Necessary To Become President.

●INEC is at liberty to choose its method of transmitting results.

●Evidences By Peter Obi didn't prove he won the Presidential Election.

●Double Nomination Case Against Shettima is Incompetent.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amigoss: 3:40pm On Sep 06, 2023
Nostradamus1:


Which savings? I have nothing except garri😂.
Although,I am patiently waiting for my appointment to the inner BAT caucus.
As I no get car or generator, I wholeheartedly support the subsidy removal. Less noise pollution. Let the poor breathe.


If the current Obidients are honest,they should chase all their legal representatives for the silly mistakes.
Ordinary reading John Grisham will enlighten one on the need to use an independent professional as a witness with no party affiliation.

Why will the web lady witness be an LP member who had contested under the party?

Why didn't the Lawyers be honest with OBi about his chances and weakness of petition?

Lawyers have paralegals and assistants under them.
Why didn't any of them discover that even if Tinubu was a convicted criminal, it was over 10 years since his supposed conviction?

Why didn't their research show that as of 2003 when Tinubu was a small fry, the US already claimed he wasn't convicte[/b]d?


[b]Why did they add witnesses to their petition after submission?


Why concentrate on his certificate when the more serious crimes was that Tinubu committed perjury(although I don't think he can be sued on that again)?

Why didn't they withdraw a case after confirmation that INEC solely decides means of transmission?

Why didn't they submit Labor Party agents results sheet to prove that INEC sheets were wrong?


How did they expect the court to know Obi's real votes?

These are the questions that matters?

#AllEyesOnObiLawyers


Too long,didnt read,Didnt ask,dont care....I'm happy for you or sad that it happened

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